Celtic Rumours Archive May 10 2012

 

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10 May 2012 23:35:24
Mark Daly, BBC, tweeting that his new 60 minute investigation into Rangers will be shown at 8pm on Wed 23rd May.

It is believed that it will relate to EBTs.

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K-Dot a master of information. Sopot Celt

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Looking forward to it, many thanks.

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10 May 2012 23:10:23
Its great to see Lennon off loading some unneeded players, freeing up some money for a few experienced players, and the Lennon revolution is continuing thusly. But is there any ideas on who are the experienced players he will be bringing in? - Quacksandpiper

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Leon Best is STILL a target, just as the Express have stated this morning, he has been since Coventry. Just the forward Celtic need. Showed quality in the EPL before Ba and Cisse broke into the team. Celtic have also been watching Markus Henriksen, quality young centre mid from Norway.

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10 May 2012 22:36:22
Had a season ticket for 15 years and I will certainly be renewing for next year. All this talk of "holding off to see what happens" is disgraceful. It should be irrelevant whats happening at Rangers and should have no bearing on Celtic fans renewing their season tickets. To many people on here obsessed by Rangers. Let whatever happens happen with them and just get behind Celtic.

Drew

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So your happy to see one of the most shameful , corrupted clubs in european football history continue playing in the SPL . "Whatever happens happen" what a pathetic statement, no wonder with statements like that they think watp....Stevie

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So what are you saying Stevie? If Rangers get severely punished you'll watch Celtic, but if they don't, then you will not watch Celtic.

You're decision making process for watching Celtic is based on what happens to Rangers.

Very illogical and disapointing, but the decision is yours.

K-Dot

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Drew think your spot on . there are more tims on the rangers page than here.

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K-dot don't know what side you support , but personally i'm not interested what happens at Rangers, but i'm very interested in the punishment they receive for their years of cheating scottish football, if the punishment isn't on par with Airdrie ,livi, etc then i will not renew for next season . Sporting entegrity over corruption ,cash, and bigotry.......Stevie

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There's no way i'm missing a shame free SPL.Partytime every home game.

Jungle Bhoy.

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Well said drew. i dont understand all the fuss over rangers to be honest. i wil always follow my team and no matter what happens them (hopefully get the book thrown at them) if there are fans that walk away from watching celtic then they arent worthy of pulling on that jersy!

Kieran1888

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I have had a season ticket for as long as I can remember, I have say through all the dross of Andy Payton, Carl Muggleton, the second coming of Charlie Nicholas, when he was over weight, in-fit and well past even being interested.

I have been there threw the sack the board protests outside Celtic park, had to endure watching home defeats to Partick thistle and the like.

However if Rangers get off with this punishment free then that is it for me with Scottish football, it will just confirm what I have thought for many years, a corrupt, biased unfair establishment aka the SFA and Spl.

How can I willingly put my money in to going to watch Scottish football, when one team gets favoured over all others, and encourage my family to do the same.

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A cannot believe some celtic fans ! Celtic are in a really strong position and instead of caring what happens to us use should be looking forward to building a team to challenge in europe ! This is when u find out who the real celtic fans are and who are just bitter ! Well done all the real celtic fans i for one dont care whats happening at celtic i renew my ticket because i enjoy watchig rangera play simple as that

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The whole debate about renewals v RFC situation is laughable. I am considering getting a few season books and I live abroad! My family members can use them and I am doing my bit for the club I love. CFC does much more than sending 11 bhoys out to play football every week. IMHO (and I accept I am bias in this regard) is an exemplary organisation with good men at the helm. Long may it continue and everything I can do to support such a worthy and decent organisation I will do. Sopot Celt.

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Yes agree Kieran Celtic supporter till the end
Paderbhoy

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Celtic 1st Celtic last and Celtic overall. maccabhoy

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I agree I'm sick of hearing about Rangers now its getting boring nothing we can do if they gate back into the SPL. I will still be there supporting my team even if rangers shouldn't be there!!!!!!

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10 May 2012 21:10:53
whats this crap all about,everyone should be renewing season tickets.we support celtic,when rangers won 9 in a row and we were on our knees they filled their ground and were loving it ,we were buying from aldis and they were shopping at harrods.lets enjoy sunday then try for champs league thats all we should be thinking about.HAIL HAIL

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10 May 2012 20:57:30
Last chance for Gers to win anything this season.

SPL DISCIPLINARY LEAGUE TABLE

Each club's current card count is used to form the SPL disciplinary league table. One point is given for every yellow card, while two points are attributed to each red card.
Club Yellow Red Total
Hibernian 78 2 82
Rangers 67 6 79
Inverness 63 6 75
St J/stone 70 2 74
Hearts 65 4 73
Aberdeen 62 5 72
St Mirren 66 3 72
Motherwell 58 4 66
D/fermline 58 2 62
Kilmarnock 51 3 57
Dun United 45 1 47
Celtic 31 4 39

Only 3 points off top.Fingers crossed.

Jungle Bhoy.
Well done to Celtic. {Ed007's Note - The SPL just missed out on an extra Europa League spot through the UEFA Fair Play table for next season. Kilmarnock would have got the spot.}

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Aren't Killy in Europe anyway for beating us in cup final? {Ed007's Note - No, winning the League Cup doesn't give you a Euro spot any more.}

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Think this shows that we arent as victimised by the refs as it seems at times

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So why are you always moaning about refs then?
Soutar.

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Saw a post a few weeks back on the Shame site. Because we were shown at the bottom of the table, he had incorrectly read it that we had the worst disciplinary record in the country and was relating it to Lenny's management style.

K-Dot

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That mate just about sums that lot up really doesnt it. I mean how long would it have taken to actually look at the numbers and assertion that we were the best behaved in the SPL but NO just start flapping they're gums about Lenny, couldn't wait to start ranting and hating on the man. Oh and this PROVES nothing regarding the way refs treat us. THIS proves how much better we are than the rest and that is actually fact. And it proves we play the game in the right spirit and manner befitting a great Celtic team and THAT is a true reflection of our manager and how he is teaching our team to play.

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"ascertain" that we were the best behaved team in the SPL. was what i was going for there. sorry. Like to keep the standard of grammar and punctuality at at reasonable level on here don't want to end up like that mobs page. Its embarrassing.

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10 May 2012 20:48:28
English clubs are in for Dundee Utd's Gunning,Mackay-Stevens and Russell.Hope if we are looking at any of them that we're not messing about and Lenny was right when he said he wanted the new players in early.Ed,what do you make of James McPake (on loan at Hibs)?He seems to be their best player in their games (i know,that's not hard) but gets good ratings in papers for performances too.

Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - My cousin is married to McPake's cousin JB. He was at CFC as a youth but joined Livingston's youth academy when he turned 16. He is CFC daft but I don't think he is up to the level of playing for us.}

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Would take Mackay-Stevens.

K-Dot

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I'd like to see Jonny Russell at celtic

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I know James McPake personally and he wasn't at Celtic as a youth player he was always with Livingston. Can't believe you dont think he isn't up to this level ed. What is this level when you look at the dumplings that have played centre half for us in the last four years or so. He has guided Hibs to a cup final and saved them from relagation in the short time he has been there and is also the perfect age for a centre half with plenty of experience. Was touted for international honours a couple of years back before he broke his back with Coventry. Get him for nothing and you cant lose (Charlie Mulgrew) James McPake was with a team from Holytown, a team from Coatbridge and with Celtic South BC in his youth, he also played with Livingston Youth before he joined Livingston's academy when he turned 16. I am allowed an opinion on players you know, whether you agree or not is immaterial. What is the plenty of experience you are talking about, he has averaged 20 games a season since his debut in 2004 and the highest level he has played at is the SPL/Championship. We are looking to bring in players with some amount of European experience, IMO he is no better than what is at the club just now. He still has a year at Coventry on his contract so he won't be available on a free, Hibs are about to/have bid £100k for him.}

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With Coventry being relegated he has asked to be released from his contract and when he goes back down south after the cup final he expects to be freed anyway so any talk of a £100k bid is way off the mark as Hibs dont have that kind of money. 20 odd games a season in the championship is still a pretty good level of football probably better than what we watch on a weekly basis. Getting him for nothing isnt a gamble as he wont be hard to deal with wages wise. {Ed007's Note - If Hibs are offering £100k I doubt that Coventry will let him go on a free. I never said he averaged 20 games a season in the Championship did I? I said that is his career average, he has played 43 games in three years for Coventry, that is an average of 14 games a season. We would have been as well keeping Hooiveld than signing McPake.}

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Spoke to James McPake myself tonite by text and in his words "Hibs havent made any contact with Coventry yet and wont be doing anything until after the cup final and it certaintly wont be anywhere near £100k". Coventry ARE willing to let him go on a free as they are changing their wage structure for league 1 and the manager has told him he wont be part of his plans for next season and thats why Hibs, Dundee Utd and Aberdeen are watching closely. {Ed007's Note - Tonight? It's quarter past three in the day? And thanks, the rest of your post kind of backs me up, he is nowhere near good enough for CFC or any better than who we already have. We would be much better promoting a youth player than signing him. It would show a distinct lack of ambition.}

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I suppose signing the likes of Hooper (Scunthorpe), Stokes (Hibs), McCourt (irish league), etc all showed real ambition. Point your missing here is a player has come into premier league found his fitness and has been a standout for past three months so isn't much of a gamble for a free transfer and low wages. If you think he isnt any better than what we have big dan, Loovens, K Wilson etc who had no knowledge of scottish football and struggled with the pace of the game since they got here then i rest my case. am all for promoting from within but most Celtic fans feel there is enough inexperience in the team and even the boss has said it's time for more experienced players to be brought in this summer

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10 May 2012 20:13:04
I honestly do not understand why some folk are chosing to blackmail Celtic by threatening to not renew their Season Tickets

I received my renewal at the beginning of last week and there's no question of me not renewing it.

I trust Celtic to make the right decisions for the club and I won't be 'Walking Away'. Mrs E

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Go on mrs e , well said

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Please do not hurt us because of this it is nothing to do with the tic. hail hail.

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My season ticket will be renewed regardless of what happens to the other mob!

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Mrs E, your a true tim! Loving it !!
CB

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Well put me too renewal form sent away, I don't understand why fans would boycott our games if Rangers stay in the SPL as a newco seems pointless to me Faithfull through and through!!!!!

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10 May 2012 20:06:31
Could someone let me know why Celtic were not presented with the Championship trophy after the Kilmarnock game,In the past there has what has been called Helicopter Sunday when Celtic and another team have been playing to try and win the title,Celtic have been so far a head of the other teams this year,and we beat Kilmarnock on the 7th of April,Celtic should have been presented with the trophy then,and still been allowed to be presented with the trophy again at Celtic Park,after the game against Hearts.All the best to Hibs for the Cuo final against Hearts.

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It was the same when we beat hibs to win the league at easter road , never got the trophy till the last home game. The spl should change this imo thats what u go for all season and when u finally win it should have the trophy !

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I think it's always the last home game of the season if possible. For me that's the way it should be, being presented with the trophy in front of your own fans at your own ground.
The instances with helicopters was because the league went down to the last day of the season and could have went either way.

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10 May 2012 19:33:57
To fans not renewing season tickets till newco confirmed,
Just remember that witholding of money could hamper preparations for next season,
Thatl yous all be on here moaning next season,
The celtic board,shareholders,managers,coaches,squad,always done the rite thing by the club,
I have been to agm i listen n learn,
If celtic fans dont like it affect others,
Green brigade you should be ashamed blackmailn celtic,
I love your work n songs,
Dont damage your own,
Boycott away games,cup games,etc,start own tv channel,etc,
Please dont withold money so we can all carry on building moving in rite direction,

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Don't cut yer nose off to spite yer face

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That is spot on with that bigsam67

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I have had my ticket for 15 seasons now and i will not be renewing until i find out the punishment handed out to that corrupt mob who disguise themselves as a football club. If they get off lightly then my suspicions about them and the sfa will be confirmed. I will not stump up my hard earned to watch my team in a corrupt league, i will go to European games, but would rather donate to a worthwhile cause than pay money to watch games in a league that include a club who have been breaking the rules for years......Stevie

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Any person or group who advocates and promotes non renewal of season tickets until THEY are happy with what happens regarding rangers is a MORON, full of their own self importance and should remember this.... WITHOUT CELTIC YOU ARE NOTHING......... the club is bigger , more important and will live longer than any of us....... you should be ashamed

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The Green Brigade are absolutely magic mate, bring an atmosphere to celtic park i havent seen for years and i would hate to see them disappear. But the OP is spot on, i think if they really think about it that rangers mob would love that, they have been out thought, out sung and they would be rubbing theyre hands if they stayed in the spl AND the GB chucked in theyre season tickets. I think the bhoys will be there singing next year no matter what happens if im honest but theyre trying to put there point across. Hope im right, because im convinced Rangers newco will be allowed into the SPL. Caller on Radio Snyde made a good point tonight when he said that the SPL are asking the member clubs to vote on an issue which could potentially harm theyre clubs so they couldnt possibly be impartial SO therefore the decision should be taken from them and to a higher power to decide. The SFA chief executive should be making the decision but he and the the rest of the SFA dont have the bottle to make the correct one. So they are passing the buck, some of these SPL chairmen have openly addmitted to not wanting to have to make the decision. The whole situation is an embarrassment to scottish football.

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Please do not damage us. we need to be bigger than this. and we will be. hail hail.

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Without the fans - Celtic are nothing and not the other way around ya trumpet

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Above un-named poster obviously has the opposite thoughts of our greatest ever manager "without Celtic you are nothing?" and as for the rest of you saying you will carry on as normal paying to watch us against a " newco" debt free after their years of blatant cheating. And before you come up with the one "we can get it right up them for becoming a newco" forget it, they wont care as long as they're challenging for titles and singing their battle songs. Sporting Integrity over money if not whats the point of going on supporting this club we love?........Stevie

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Last time i was called a moron was just before the bunnet, took over.Had a disagreement in a pub a didnt go to the game, the other chap did his comment was A LUV THE HOOPS U DONT AMBLANCE CALLED.Think abot it a backed fergus and brian d,he backed the kelly mob.Lets see how u will all like it IF our board vote for RFC, and how ragin you will be in 20 months time when its all in the past, and they win the league with 1point with a dodgy last minute pen. GOD BLESS THE GREEN BRIGADE. {Ed007's Note - I am 99% certain that you are talking garbage. Or you seriously need to grow up, grow a pair and make a decision for yourself.}

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CHEERS ED see if a can grow a pair lol {Ed007's Note - It helps you make decisions for yourself and they have other uses as well.}

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I haven't renewed as I'm yet to recieve a letter...anyone else in this position? {Ed007's Note - The TO has said they are all in the post mate. I would give it to Monday and then maybe phone them.}

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The green brigade are NOTHING without the club you MORONS, the club was there long before the green brigade , and will be there long after, all you are is entertainment , grow up

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To the guy who posted celtic are nothing without the fans,,,,,,, just as i said full of your own self importance ,,,,, so do one , walk away plenty more to take your place

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Faithful through and though.....

That is the song I remember going to a game one of my first since moving home to scotland and we played bordeaux we lost and that song/day has always lived me since...it was song by me and my mates and 10's of thousands after the game fantastic

Season ticket will be renewed (splt between my brother and I) and one poss 2 childrens tickets for my boys. I can't afford it but would not for the life of me not want to have it.

I say pay your money and if you want to go to the games that suit you....however I am sure that even if rangers newco are there almost all of you will still want to be there supporting "OUR" team.

I personallt think that rangers should be punished for the length of time / amount of seasons they were allowed an unfair advantage ie)

If in 2000 they won the league by 12 points then
2004 lets say 6 points etc etc etc

We add the total points divide them by the number of years they had an unfair advantage and set that for the next 12 years so lets say they averaged 4 points over the 12 or whatever years then the next 12 they start at -4?? If not start the the highest points total and each year gradually work down

Bankier bhoy aka canadian pete

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The GB are good lads with the clubs best interest at heart. They are a bit younger than me and when I was younger I spoke and acted first then thought about it..I have paid the price and learned my lessons..only way :) They are making their point their way and if you think about it, it should not come as a surprise to anyone. I take a different view from them but they pay their money and support their team so they are entitled to their opinion. Of course if they decide to opt out then the logical result is they wont have a voice or a platform to air their views and the fans will big time miss hearing their voice used in the best way which is "bringing back the thunder" I think Mr Lawells statement and the fact that we are all Celtic men will ensure good sense prevails. The GB are our Bhoys and those with an opinion have a right to express it without getting dissed.... (too much that is :) ). Sopot Celt

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I canny believe how shortsighted some of us are being.We want to boycott games and withold money from OUR club to force them to punish another?That other club being our ancient rival,well not any more cos they died and is that not pu nishment enough cos i know one thing,if RFC aint allowed back into the SPL then within a few years the attendance at Parkhead is gonny go way down and TV money will be gone,once all that kicks in do you thionk Celtic are still gonny be able to live the way we are now?Nope,this will have a ripple affect for us too,so lets just keep a dignified silence on the matter and be careful what we wish for.SPL without old firm games...do me a favour!

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10 May 2012 19:01:07
Neil Lennon has called time on Juarez's Celtic career. He said it might be best if he moved on.

Mac

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10 May 2012 18:40:32
Ed, What was the name of the guy from Hong Kong who was supposed big mates with Sir Alex? Just wondering if his mucky paws are involved somewhere in Rangers unlikley but maybe worth a consideration somewhere. Could he have been the nominated shareholder in Wavetower and is the front for whyte to have teased liquidation and assets for him or one of his associates to walk in the door with a control of a big-ish club. Prob a very strenuous link. Its not EPL but its a big enough fish. Names are rarley my strong point. I am suprised i even remember my own sometimes.

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I looked into this when Bill Ng got involved Evinguu. The guy in the documentary you are talking about is Joe Sim, a business associate of Bryan Robson and adviser to the Thai FA. Sim has links with Peter Lim who once tried to buy LFC (he owns a chain of Utd themed bars/clubs throughout Asia) and was supposedly part of Bill Ng's consortium in his recent attempt to buy Rangers. Rangers would seem the ideal type of club that would interest these men was my thought at the time. I'm sure you would agree if you seen the programme and have read a bit about them.}

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I saw the program just could remember any ones names lol and was an excellent programme too.

I wouldnt be suprised if this guy is involved somewhere along the lines either through Whyte himself or as you say through Ng. The more i think about their whole situation the more shady characters i think about. Remember this is the guy who said im sure that he basically works in the background (under the radar) but in the interests of others to eventually take over the club albeit trying to guarantee a gravy train to the EPL. Maybe he and WHyte were the ones in the first instance to take the front for someone like Ng to come in after all is said and done and have a debt free new club with a large potential fanbase. His bids have been a continuation of this front Cos lets face it Rangers have been a con mans dream and still are!

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I would be wary of any Asian businessmen buying into any club. I don't mean that in a racist manner, their promised wealth and investment never seems to materialise and a lot of the area is controlled on the basis of corruption.}

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Ed,Man City and Birmingham come to mind re:Asian buyers.Who was it who buggered up Notts County after all the bravado at the takeover?

Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - It was a Middle Eastern consortium called Munto Finance that took over Notts County JB, they appointed Sven Goran Eriksson as DOF and a convicted fraudster called Russell King as a 'consultant'. King was tied in with Swiss Commodity Holding who he claimed had material assets worth £1.27 TRILLION. Notts County were bought for £1 and when it was sold only five months later it had amassed debts of £7 million.}

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Aye yur rite ed hees a real card that guy sim am tellin ye

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Haha Ed i wouldnt read it as racist its a fair comment that most proposed takeovers of asian origin have usually been smoke and mirrors.

Jungle Bhoy, i would classify Man City as more middle eastern, as they are from the UAE and have as much money they want to piss away as anyone could ever want to piss away on a cruddy wee team that was absolutley nowhere in footballing stature untill they had millions upon millions pumped into them and they got a whole horde of glory hunters on board to increase support etc... till they are whrere they are now can you tell I dont like man city? lol

Thanks for the reminder on Notts County Ed. there are similarities here with rangers ... replace the consortium with wavetower and whyte, Smith as DOF/cheif exec and whitey as the 'consultant' amd double the timeframe and the debt ran up and hey ho hes follow followng the county model! Interesting!

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I was just covering my ass with the racism thing Evinguu, you know how 'sensitive' some people can be.}

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Evinguu,before the Arabs took over at City they were owned by the Thailand Prime Minister.I remember he was a bit shady and was Mark Hughes not manager about then also?

Jungle Bhoy.

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10 May 2012 18:21:33
Alex Thomson has been speaking with Craig White who has confirmed that he is not part of any bid for Rangers.

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Why bid for something thats yours, onwards and upwards with THE WHYTE KNIGHT

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10 May 2012 17:41:02
So suprise suprise, the Blue Knights are back in for rangers with the same bid as what was deemed acceptable and then deemed not acceptable then rejected. The merry go round is getting back into full swing.

My guess for the next headline is 48 hours left to save rangers. Which of course will come and go most likley and probably with no further info forthcoming from inept and inepter (if that's a word).

We all know what questions should be asked Green Jhedi's post below is a prime example of this. We also know why they are not being asked of Rangers and basically its ineptitude.

I have a few points about Rangers fans are saying they are the ones being punished. Why us?. Well unfortunatley its us ( other SPL club supporters) whom have bore the brunt of this clubs actions and us who will have to live with the worst of the consequences. As any outcome decided upon is not going to be just and acceptable to us. We will all end up being the losers in this. Not financially but the losers in terms of our national game losing all face on a grand stage, of us finally knowing that decisions made are as corrupt and for the wrong reasons as decisions can be made in our names and in our clubs names. I pray for a sense of sense to seep through the SPL chairmen when deciding the fate of the ones who have done nothing but bring the game into disrepute since the moment this mess kicked off., the ones who fail and refuse to see where blaim and accountability lays within a football business structure. It is us that will pay the ultimate price through disollusion anger and sheer disdain at what the so called guardians of our clubs and our game will end up doing here..... I say poor us the honest and innocent football fan. Cos Rangers fans, you know it and I know it you will be let off with the worst of the crimes in any situation other than ceasing to be!

Evinguu

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10 May 2012 17:33:24
would just like to say I believe it's four years since Celtic fan,player,manager and all round good guy Tommy Burns sadly lost his life , he epitomised everything about Celtic
Rest In Peace Tommy
Ayrshire Rangers Fan {Ed007's Note - His anniversary is the 15th of May mate, but thanks for the sentiments.}

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From another Rangers fan, it's a pity there wasn't more men like Tommy Burns, the guy was just a class act in every way and had a great sense of humour, wasn't a bad player either.
Billy J. shankill road NI

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Yes - Tommy Burns was great guy and epitomised all that was good in a person and in his club. I was honoured to place my Rangers jersey at the front of Celtic Park and to see all the other tops etc all laid out. How some people forget eh!!!

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Well said bluenoses

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There should be more like this from both sides ,well said Ayrshire Ranger ,we should always admire those that do actually play for the jersey what ever half of the old firm they have played for

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10 May 2012 17:22:21
Think we should hold off renewing our season books until we see what Mr Lawell has in plan. We can't allow Rangers to waltz straight back into the league {Ed007's Note - I think it should be left up to individuals whether they want to renew their season tickets. Any CFC fan who has cheered on sh1te like Andy Payton, Lee Martin, Martin Hayes and Stuart Slater etc should not even be considering boycotting anything to do with CFC. We never let the Whytes/Kellys drive us away but we are going to let this do it? I'm not buying that sorry. Nobody apart from my Mrs and my bank book will tell me whether to get a ST or not.}

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Well said ed as the song goes faithfull through and through were here for celtic dont care about anyone else
hail hail
welshbhoy

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Well said Ed, we cannot let this be a factor in deciding whether we purchase season books or not.

P.S. You forgot Carl Muggleton.

K-Dot {Ed007's Note - Oh he was dire :-(

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Lawell is no daftie.

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Agree in total with ed, its about supporting celtic nothing else........ or should be !!!!!!!!

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Lawell is no daftie.agree 100% His promotion in the SFA guaranteed and 30 pieces of silver to boot hes done alright for himself

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I couldnt care less what Peter Lawell does in regards to the situation or what happens to rangers for that matter. If they start next season in the SPL with no points deductions, no transfer embargo and no loss of earnings sanctions it doesnt matter. Me and my brother will be renewing our season tickets until such times as we are too old to go to the games. That is what it is all about. I wont be cutting my nose off to spite my face and possibly missing days like that last old firm match. 3-bush to the celts f*@kin magic. Hail Hail

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I agree ed. I was there watching back inthe early 90's so wont be chucking it now. I quite liked Andy Payton lol, he wasnt the worst {Ed007's Note - He was not mate and you had to like someone.}

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Stuart slater (jigsaw) cost over 2 million.

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Ur all livin on mars it was the bhoys who stopped givin the kelly whites and grant their money that got fergus in without their sacrafice there wouldnt be a celtic ffs waken up boycotts and strikes are the weapons of the woking class it is not just about celtic it is the scottish football arrmagedon we need to have this in our pockets as a warning to all lawell, rankers.spl sfa the lot or else we are dead hail hail.

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Willie falconer ffs

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Gary Gillespie,Tony Cascarino,Ian Andrews,too many to mention.Mind you we have had some stonkers in recent years too,Tebily,Blinker,Juninho,Graveson,Flood,etc.

Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - We've had more good than bad recently though JB. Back then 90% of the team were dire.....and we still went, well I did. I am not telling people to renew their ST's or not to, but if they don't then at least let it be their own decision. I went through all the SOC and Celts For Change stuff, before even McCann was heard of, I am not letting anyone dictate whether I should going to support CFC or not. I'm hoping the leg is up to me getting my ST back next season. As long as there is a club and a team to watch I'll be there.}

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I know this is stating the obvious but this is a totally different situation to whe
We needed the kelly's out. We as a club are in a great position, great youth coming through, great young hungry squad, champions, heading for CL qualifiers and we a financially strong. I know this rangers newco thing is a sore point for many of you but I just can't understand or comprehend good Celtic men refusing to renew they're season tickets! It's inadvertently punishing our OWN club. Surely the answer would be protesting to the SFA or to the government to take charge of the situation and give rangers the correct punishment. Or go directly to UEFA. Can't get my head around this current suggested course of action honestly.

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10 May 2012 17:19:27
Find it a bit of a coincidence that just as we all get our season book renewals Mr Lawell thinks its time to comment on the current situation! Think we should hold of with our renewals until we see what Mr Lawell does! No more talk of moving to England as its just not going to happen!!

Campsie Tim

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Agree. all clubs and the sfa get their wages from the hard working fans. and they seem to be looking after their own pockets. they should listen to the fans who seem to be getting bypast in any decision making.

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I got mine 2 weeks ago so cant be that. lawell has been great for celtic no matter what people say. lets just have faith and trust in lawell and lennon {Ed007's Note - The majority of people I know have theirs through as well, someone was on yesterday asking about it they hadn't received theirs. The TO said they are all in the post.}

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Ed now its nearly the end of the season what was you favourite game {Ed007's Note - Because of my leg I have only managed two matches this season. The derby match in December, which was brilliant but I was in the 'snobby' seats and the ICT game in February which I enjoyed as it gave me a chance to catch up with a very good friend who I hadn't seen in a while.}

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To op , are you an idiot? lawell cant make any comment at all untill things are clearer, even then, why would you not renew your s/t, ? because things didnt go the way you wanted....... aw aint that a shame.... its only the club your hurting ....... grow up you fool !!!!!!

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10 May 2012 17:14:36
Alex Thomson having a go at D + P on his latest blog.

Jungle Bhoy.

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Who isn't having a go except D&P's bank manager.

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10 May 2012 17:10:59
No rumour but just a thought.

If big Fraser foster doesn't commit then how bout Paul Robinson of Blackburn?

Chance to play CL and win trophy's may sway him.

Ed- Any idea what sort of wage he's on?

Cheers,

Richybhoy {Ed007's Note - He is a terrible GK Richy. He had conceded a goal every 37 minutes up until about February and things just got worse. He will be on between £35-45k just now. West Ham will probably be interested if they get promoted.}

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10 may 2012 16:37:06
this is just my personal thought but i have a funny feeling heskey could pop up in the piture close season

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I hope your wrong mate Heskey is dire.

hail hail

Marco1888

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No chance will he arrice at CP.

Waste of space and can't offer us anything.

Expect a young CF to come in!

Richybhoy

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Why? does he want his picture took with lennon or is it a plot by mcleish to drag us down to the other mobs level,

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Cris Sutton - he was pretty s**t at Chelsi before he came to us. OK, Heskey has been s**te for ages but not always. Mayb a good shout

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Ive seen milk turn quicker. 2-3 seasons ago maybe, but he would just be a 30-40 grand passenger at Celtic

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10 May 2012 14:54:03
how about curtis davies for centre half

how much would he cost? what kind of wages would he want? {Ed007's Note - Now that Birmingham City have missed out on promotion I expect them to enter administration soon. If he left under freedom of contract I would think he would be looking for £30-40k a week, he was on £40k a week at AV before he left them. Personally I don't rate him.}

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An av jist spoke tae bigcurt n ha disnae rate you ,whits yur point callur?
a nonie moose {Ed007's Note - It's football we're talking about Pat, you're better not commenting on things you don't know about wee man, we've been through this before.}

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10 May 2012 13:06:48
Just read Mr Lawells press release and find it interesting but a bit ambiguous."we are fully aware of our supporters concerns regarding the current situation across Scottish football and the breadth of opinion across our supporter base" All well and good there,just what we would expect,listening to the fans.He then goes on to mention "complex issues, uncertainty and repeated changes on a daily basis"Again pretty obvious and that would explain our clubs silence on this matter.Then it heats up slightly"I am sure our supporters understand that these developments are receiving our full focus and attention" First time we have heard that we are on the case and,reading between the lines,have our plan ready.What that might be,who knows? "We will do what's in the best interests of Celtic football club and it's supporters,consistent with upholding the interests and reputation of Scottish football"Is Mr Lawell bearing his teeth a bit here? Having said previously that we have a stand alone plan for Celtic,the rangers situation should not affect us in the slightest.Two words jump out at me here. INTERESTS;rangers in the SPL would suit every other club in the league of that there's no doubt.rangers in the SPL would also maximize the TV deal on offer.REPUTATION;Different case here,the reputation of Scottish football would be a joke if rangers or "newco" were allowed in with out some sort of financial or points sanctions.Seems so far that Celtic would be happy to allow rangers back,but with the proper sanctions.What they would be we can only speculate.He then goes on to say that Celtic will communicate with fan groups directly "at the appropriate time" This time would be when? I like to think it will before the next SPL meeting.The next quote might be cryptic "We have never been more united and that unity will be vital as we move forward" The choice of phrase "move forward" interests me.Sticking my neck out i would say he is intimating the bullets are in the gun and were waiting to draw.ED007 and you Celts;i would love your opinion on this statement..............green jhedi {Ed007's Note - I don't think he is actually giving anything away. Until the final outcome is known he isn't willing to say anything, but will have his say when it is settled and it is known what road CFC will go down. He will have a contingency plan for every eventuality and I believe he will do what is right for CFC, not the good of the SPL or the Scottish game, or what is best for Rangers, but what is the best option for CFC. Rangers fans are relying on other club's financial worried (selfish??) chairman for help so why shouldn't CFC be selfish and just look after themselves as well?}

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If he wants to keep the best supporters in the world. he should listen to them. they pay the wages. {Ed007's Note - What are the fans saying?}

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I for one will stand by anything Lawell decides for the good of CFC it is obvious that during his tenure everything he has done for us has been beneficial. Look at the manky mob I bet they wished they had someone like him looking after their interests.
Welshbhoy

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I can't disagree with you on that one Ed. He will, and always should, put the best interests of Celtic before the interests of others - even if it is detrimental to Rangers or any other club. That's what he is there to do in my opinion.

Neither can I argue with your last point either Welshbhoy (minus the manky bit - I shower twice a day). Vociferously supports and defends his club, he's also tenacious and isn't afraid to challenge the authorities or other clubs head on if he feels aggrieved about something and emphatically makes his point when he feels he has to. I don't always agree with everything he says or does but give me someone with those kinds of qualities any day of the week. Once his jaws are locked there is no shaking him off.

Brian {Ed007's Note - He is a fantastic Chief Executive Brian, and would be for any club. That is why he is so highly regarded in England, and not just with Arsenal.}

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10 May 2012 11:57:55
Hi ed is there anywhere I could check the possible teams for our champs qualifiers?

PADDYBHOY

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Check the uefa website they hve a brakedown of the process, dates and teams who have quaified, ps heard a rumour of kelvin wilson to leicester what about a swap with matt mills

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Cheers mate as for kelvin wilson would like to see him stay

PADDYBHOY

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I think we should give wilson a chance i remember paul elliots first season he struggled so did stubbs but both turned out to be good signings

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Paddy ma bhoy wiz that the cat thit
chewed yur new shoes?

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10 May 2012 17:08:27
Here you go Paddybhoy.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/champions-league/97915-scotlands-champions-league-participants-likely-opponents-and-seedings/

Jungle Bhoy.

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10 May 2012 11:24:45
What do you think about going for Peter Whittingham from Cardiff? POTY for them, great left sided CM. Could make our MF even better!

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Are you mad? Celtic have Scott Brown, Ki Sung Yeung, Beram Kayal and Joe Ledley, Commons and Wanyama, that guy doesn't compare to 5/6 of them, so no chance we will sign him!

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10 May 2012 11:08:07
Seems like good news for Rangers fans today.If the tabloids are to be believed one of these new bids is a goer,and with walter smith fronting them it will obviously get the fans backing.In a direct quote,Duff & Phelps claim that Whyte will sell his shares for a pound,having been told that by the new favourite bidders.What i dont get is why the usual suspects did not ask some pertinent questions.With regards to Whyte's shares,can he sell them while locked in litigation for 24.9% of his holding?If he punts them before the legal paperwork hits his desk,who will be liable for the claim,rangers or Whyte? Next up would be the assets,ibrox,murray park and the albion being,i would think the most valuable,just who has control over them? If it is Whyte could that be the reason he is selling his shares for one pound? Would the new owners have to lease these back from Whyte if he does have control of them? Next would be Ticketus,i wonder where they come in to this deal.Alex Thomson claims they are taking Whyte to court to guarantee their claim on season books.Would Whyte leave himself open to a long protracted court case over these funds after selling his shares for one pound?Last,but by no means least,is the players.Duff & Phelps claim there transfer of contracts to "newco" would be automatic,claiming expert legal advice has suggested this.Frazer Wishart the PFA rep,claims this is not the case,it would be entirely up to the players to decline or accept any offer under TUPE rules.Now im sure rangers fans would accept these are fair quastions,so why dont the reporters ask them instead of parroting Duff & Phelps press releases? I dont think for one minute walter smith would align himself to anything that benefits Whyte,his stock is too high with fans to risk,But i still get the feeling Whyte is overseeing all this.When the consortiums names come out the picture will be clearer,but it does seem that some legal wrangling will be required.Even after all these questions are cleared up there is still the CVA problem and the BTC results.Either way lots of cash will need to be pumped in to rangers in a league where you cant make real cash.Or is close season liquidation the aim as the sanctions are less harsh than winding up while the league is live? The next few days should be interesting.............green jhedi

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Fair questions Green Jehdi and lots of ones all of us have been seeking for quite some time. The MSM wont ask them and we dont have the means to ask them and then get a response. All we can do is conject and be Internet Bampots!

I still fail to see how shares can be sold or transferred from Craig Whyte as Rangers as a company are banned from trading them on the market and they are still a listed company! so any transfer would have to be ratified by said market and this would surley be blocked. Unless they would be lenient due to the position of the club (quite probable) as lenient seems to be the buzz word with everything Rangers at the moment!

D&P have fast become the boy who cried wolf. They have passed the same spin since feb and each time when it sounded beleivable nothing changed, Now they are full of bravado and gusto and are really on attack mode after their preferred bidder pulled out, which I expect they Knew about before the meeting at Hampden on monday (no evidence of course).

It seems yet again that the roundabout has been given a wee push and the so called knights horses have parked on it to make a merry-go-round that seemingly will never stop spinning! And lining the pockets of a very select few.

Evinguu

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You said it all in your first line m8, IF THE TABLOIDS ARE TO BE BELIEVED, which of course they aint, much much more to come out of ibrokes, this will run longer than coronation street.

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..Daily Record sensationalism...its like the Bismark "cracking one off" as it sinks....

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GJ..Do you not think the latest reports of a smith or souness face to front a supposed new consortium is to try too appease the fans& stop any intimidation or threats against them????also liquidation coming, a newco will stay in spl& have no sanctions against them,apart from a euro ban,bet your a$$ on it m8..stevo

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My understanding of the shares is that they can still be traded, the fact that they are not listed on the stock exchange just means that nobody knows exactly what they are worth. They can still be sold on though as long as the company exists, for a price agreed between the two parties.

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Why don't you send an email to Alex Thomson with your questions on it GJ?See if he can ask them as he'll probably get to the bottom of it well before the Scottish media.They will still be sitting on their arses thinking up their next "Exclusive".

Jungle Bhoy.

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@stevo; You might have a point there mate.On the BBC souness has claimed he is not involved,and Bill Ng claims to have had TWENTY missed calls from D&P! Possibly there just trying to get rid to anybody before the season end..........green jhedi

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They have been touted about like a cheap whor£ for long & weary m8,20missed calls is desperation stages now& willing to take half what he first offerd,pmsl..D&P seem to forget there role is for the best intrests of the creditors,got to be the worst admin in history..stevo

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What's D + P going to do next?Start with A in the phone book then keep going until they find someone who can spare a Provy cheque?

Jungle Bhoy.

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10 May 2012 07:57:24
Looks like fluff and fluffer are at the spin again. I guess there is more bad news to come as they always have good news which is quickly followed by bad news.

hail hail

Marco1888

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