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16 Dec 2018 17:23:36
Don't think it's an understatement to say that was one shambolic performance. So so poor following on from a very poor performance from us again on Thursday although it must be said Salzburg are a quality team. We cannot use these European games as an excuse for poor performances in the league.

We never competed today and for me that's unforgivable. Yes we've no divine right to win any game but with the squad of players we have we're surely expected to be able to compete against a Hibs side who before today had won 1 in 7/ 8 games. I wasn't going to mention names but after that performance their can be no hiding from it.

Ntcham- looked like the player he was when dembele worked his ticket out the door, totally uninterested. McGregor, Forrest, both poor although turn up most weeks. brown looked well off it at times. Sinclair AGAIN totally non existent, hooked half time on Thursday, could've been earlier and should've been off half time today, infact for me he's lucky to have started the game.

He had more than a decent game against killie last week I'll give him that but doesn't produce it nearly as often as he should. I know from some I'll get shot down for having a go at the players especially Sinclair, and I don't take any pleasure in it but that performance today was nothing short of a disgrace. Yes we've injuries but my god we've got the biggest squad in the country by a mile. No excuses whatsoever for not competing.

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16 Dec 2018 19:14:33
There were poorer performamces than Sinclair's today Garry, at least Sinclair tried to beat his man and hit the by line and create chances.

16 Dec 2018 19:51:11
Totally agree malkybhoy, there was not 1 today for me that played anywhere near a decent, acceptable standard. I’m not going to beat about the bush, I’m not a big Sinclair fan, yes first season he was outstanding and yes he has been our top scorer past 2 years but for me that says more about our strikers than it does Sinclair. Sinclair just doesn’t do enough often enough ( that is just my opinion) . Ntcham who I also mentioned above was dreadful, he looked like he just couldn’t care less and wanted to be anywhere else other than where he was. These guys who are all paid well need to up their game that’s probably my main point. Too many times this season especially away from home we’ve failed to turn up or dropped stupid points to the point where we’re actually making this league tighter than it really ought to be. Today for me was about competing and I just didn’t see a team today that wanted to compete and the players that played today all looked in the mirror they couldn’t really say “ I have my all today”. only one team turned up today and it sadly wasn’t us.

16 Dec 2018 21:11:42
Why is sinclair being signed out when over the last few games there have been worse players?
Today both Sinclair and Forrest put the ball on a plate in the six yard box and not one Celtic player gambled to get on the end of it.

And remember this, without Sinclair we'd be out of Europe right now.

16 Dec 2018 22:05:31
Without Rosenborg we’d be out Europe right now.

17 Dec 2018 04:23:38
Over the group we won more points. We qualified because we done enough.

Without winning 9 points we would be out the group.

17 Dec 2018 05:11:25
That’s very true kwaj, what I’m not buying is without Sinclair we’d be out Europe. Yes he scored in the 1-0 win v Rosenborg, so did griffiths in the first Rosenborg game to get us 3 points as did Tierney and Edouard against lipzeig for another 3 points and just as importantly had it not been for Rosenborg getting that unexpected draw at Leipzig in their final game we’d be out, so to suggest Sinclair is the reason we’re through to the last 32 is nonsense. Look, I had a post last week regarding my thoughts on Sinclair, my opinion ( and it’s only my opinion) hasn’t changed. His first season he was electric, absolutely destroying the opposition for fun, that’s the Sinclair I want to see. I get he won’t be at that level week in week out, I get players ( not only him) will dip in form but for me his form has gone from that season and yet to return. I don’t see the Sinclair that gets the ball and runs at the full backs, getting the balll taking on 2/ 3 players and skinning them. I must be watching completely different games from others.

17 Dec 2018 09:38:38
I never said he was the REASON but he is one of the major reasons.

Even when Sinclair is off form he contributes more goals and assists than any other player.

Last season proved that.

16 Dec 2018 16:44:12
I have a feeling Rodgers will try to buy Kamberi in the January window and I'm not sure he would be the answer. Decent player but I would hope for a better quality striker. I think we'll buy and striker and bring in a second on loan. There's no way our board will spend money for two strikers.

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16 Dec 2018 16:52:58
Can't see BR going for anybody from this league tbh. I said in the chat earlier, if there's truth in the Sol rumours I'd be happy with that as he'd offer a physical presence up top which could well bri g out the best in Eddy as well.

16 Dec 2018 18:09:21
The thing that bursts ma rectum is EVERY other team in the SPL has a centre forward (or two) that knows their job inside out and can hold the ball up, make runs and play others in - whereas we have big Oddsoaks who is starting to make Amido Balde, even Ciftci look good.
Maybe a proper centre forward beside him would help Eddy, but BR never plays two up front so probably not?
The last two games have shown our current weaknesses and if you look at the bigger picture, it's scary to think where we would be without Forrest and Christie goals recently.

16 Dec 2018 15:15:10
Why did Rodgers not simply play Ajer and Izaguirre as full backs in a back 4. The 3 man defence were left hopelessly exposed when Izaguirre was caught too far upfield and seemingly in no great hurry back to help out his team mates when they were pressed by a very mobile Hibs team. Too many players were played out of position just because we were missing Mikel Lustig.

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16 Dec 2018 14:59:00
Gordon ok
Ajer was ok but showed uo what lustig brings to the team when out
Simo poor
Benko. Good but was getting to rash while trying too hard . (Not really a fault )
1zzy good . but same as above with kt
Sinclair poor can't beat a man
Broony ok but looked off the pace at times
Mgregor in and out of game
Ntcham poor . slack passing and he can't take a free kick don't let him near anymore
Forrest tried but was in and out of game
Eddy bad patch for the boy all round game needs to improve drastically

Hayes poor
Johnstone good
Morgan done more than hayes and Sinclair.

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16 Dec 2018 15:32:47
It's not the first time we have been off the boil away from home this season and I appreciate we have multiple injury problems, but what worries me most, is in most of the away games where we have dropped points, we rarely looked like scoring at all.
It happened at Tynecastle, kilmarnock, Motherwell and again today.
The switches in formation and personnel causes major problems.
There are players you mentioned above that are well below par, but we need a better quality squad to sustain challenges on all fronts as there are signs of fatigue and lethargy and we have very important away games to win before the split and it's Wed/ Sat 'til the split.
Hopefully a few of the injuries will clear-up soon, but we need serious investment and a clear-out in January to progress.

16 Dec 2018 15:33:44
Thought Izzy was terrible and the worst av seen benkovic gave the ball away in the box totally not him whole team for me was rank you g Johnstone did ok when he came on.

16 Dec 2018 17:24:37
We need a new striker that is blatantly obvious, again Eds hold up play was terrible, the team were sluggish, couldn't cope with Hibs enthusiasm, they wanted it, we just turned up hoping for the best, looked so vulnerable at the back, battered in the midfield. If we don't invest in January then I'm afraid we are showing we are a club that has no real ambition further than domestic, there are plenty players in Europe in our price range, let's hope we get a decent scout out working their magic.

16 Dec 2018 14:47:42
This is the first time in 2 and a half years that I have criticised Rodgers but today's result is on him. I've no idea why he decided to play 3 at the back. We are utterly hopeless playing that system. Some of the performances this season are nowhere good enough. This is not an overreaction to the result today, this has been building for months. 3 away wins in 9. There's no urgency or desire in the team. Hibs wanted it more than us today and got the result they deserved. Back to the slow boring build up
Play from the back with zero end product at the other end. Big Eddie never breaks out of a jog and Ntcham looks completely disinterested. Listen man for man we were poor all over the park. Christie and KT were a massive loss today with the energy levels and urgency they bring to the team. From an outstanding performance against Killie last week to that today. Consistency is a big problem and I hope we BR sorts it real soon.

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16 Dec 2018 15:04:35
Eddy is the only striker we have so he's got to play but not does this boy need worked on he's so lethargic and loses the ball all the time he never protects it and ajer us another that is a work in progress needs to do more for me to safe.

16 Dec 2018 15:04:36
In fairness he admitted that in his interview. I'd have had one of Brown or Ntcham in CM next to McGregor and put Johnston further up. It's all well and good in hindsight and for us fans to criticise a double treble winning manager but I think most of us had a bad feeling about the team today.

16 Dec 2018 14:34:28
Taking Eddy off was a message to the board we need money spent on a striker in January and another on loan possibly, Brendans plan for the season was for dembele and eddy to play together i think we need a player of a similar build.

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16 Dec 2018 14:49:28
Brendan signed most of that team. Poor buys coming back to bite us.

16 Dec 2018 14:29:33
Holding Brendan responsible for this . formation all wrong and players played out of position, but that doesn't excuse ntcham not being able to pass the ball 10 yards or ajer never playing it forward ever or eddy just being eddy shows the defender the ball all the time very very poor. get the cheque book out.

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16 Dec 2018 15:06:23
The switch of wingers, I assume was supposed to surprise Hibs, but it certainly unsettled us more and the pressure of being the only striker option is weighing too heavily on Edouarde, who seems incapable of doing even the basics and has zero confidence.
Cal-Mac moved to accommodate Ntcham and Broony because of injuries
affected our shape and potency, while Ajer being played out of position (and indeed a back three) encouraged Hibs to attack the flanks, where they found a lot of joy.
We have two right backs on the books who can cover for Lustig in Gamboa and Ralston, but BR can't depend on them and the same in midfield where Hayes, Morgan and Mulumbu can't cover for an out of sorts Sinclair or a tiring Brown
Then there are the guys who can't even get on the bench, during an injury crisis?
There's no doubt we have suffered a lot of injuries this month to important players, who - if playing - would have won today; however, we do have a lot of surplus who will never make the grade and we need better quality in key positions ASAP.

16 Dec 2018 14:24:34
Only tbing I can say after that rubbish, is Johnstone must get game time over Sinclair from now on.

Now i need to try and get some sleep for work!

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16 Dec 2018 13:23:55
Absolutely honking first half, couldn't buy a goal!

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16 Dec 2018 13:54:05
Dreadful mate, clueless all over the park!



Sick of watching this dross every time we play away from Celtic Park!

16 Dec 2018 14:07:01
Every team can have an off day in terms of making the right choices, mistakes etc. Can’t accept the lack of desire. Second to every ball today.

16 Dec 2018 14:18:45
3 away wins out of 9 this season. No more to say really.

16 Dec 2018 13:21:26
Poor first half. Twice Edouard been static in the box when a cross has come in. Need more from him. Think shapes needing changed as it's not working as it is. Too slow passing out the back again now Brown and Ntcham are back in the team.

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