Celtic Banter Archive May 09 2015

09 May 2015 21:37:31
So we all think we can play football and are as good as some of the players on the pitch at times. So having played to a reasonable standard ( midfield ) which player past or present would you like to play or have played along side.

Myself it would be Iniesta .
a Celtic player--- Paul Mcstay.

HH

{Ed007's Note - Roy Keane and McStay for me.}

09 May 2015 23:03:26
myself Iniesta and Jinky giving my age away lol

09 May 2015 23:30:36
charlie cooke and gianni rivierra

09 May 2015 23:36:57
Raul & Gary Hooper

10 May 2015 00:00:46
Henrik Larsson & Tommy Burns for me

10 May 2015 00:38:39
Denis Law and Henrik for me

{Ed007's Note - Denis Law!!!!! You must be older than Timalloy, Paul!!!}

10 May 2015 08:28:46
With me on the left of a front three , di canio on the right and henke in the middle , we would have racked up two or three champions leagues no problem, if only those pesky women and the evil jungle juice hadn't led me a stray when I was only a kid , lolz 😅

09 May 2015 01:41:49
Some of the posts on here regarding the election results are embarrassing
People voted, people got elected as a result.
Thats Democracy!
The labour party losing with a " ignore what we did last time when we almost bankrupted the country " was never going to win.
The country is in better shape economically than it has been in 20 years. more to do for sure, but at the macro level, its a platform to build on.
SNP will have a voice in London. They cannot be ignored.
The slim majority the Tories enjoy will keep them focussed on policies that will improve everyones lot.
Better some sound management going forward than returning the lunatics of tax and spend to power

{Ed007's Note - I don't see how having a civilised adult conversation about something can ever be seen as an embarrassment but hey-ho each to their own, but it's a bold statement to make on a football forum for your very first post.
It's a pity you don't cast your insightful eye over anything about football or CFC. BTW.. why would anyone supposedly posting from Henderson, Nevada even care?}

09 May 2015 08:18:23
Of course folk can vote as they wish, that's not really my issue.

I've calmed down slightly but not much (I forgot Celtic were playing Aberdeen tomorrow)

Watching my fellow Scots celebrate another 5 years of Tory rule has to be up there with one of the most treacherous things I've ever seen, I feel that strongly about it!

My constituency had a decent, hard working MP with good values and he lost due to selfish, I'm alright Jack attitudes of others trying to prove a meaningless point. You should see the messages of support of his FB page.

Folk voted for another 5 years of this and they can dress it up anyway they want.

Tories count zero-hours contracts as meaning the person is employed and it manipulates the figures as the person cannot claim JSA so looks like employment is on the up. How folk fell for this I will never know.

Cheers

09 May 2015 10:47:31
You're lucky you don't live in an area of the country where the people have to rely on food banks, and where the poor and disabled, are the people who have to pay the price for what greedy bankers did to this country.
I always find it strange that the people who wrecked the economy were rich capitalists, yet the people who get blamed are the people on the centre ground or to the left.
The economy was doing fine under the Labour government, their big mistake was not regulating the banks more, but the tories strongly opposed more regulation, as it would hinder their rich donors from making even more money.
The tories then very cleverly, shifted the blame for the crash on to the unemployed, the disabled, and the poor, unfortunately the people in the south of England were only too happy to swallow this line, as it allows them to carry on with their comfortable lifestyles, oblivious to what a lot of the rest of the country are,having to endure.
I would never want anyone to hit on hard times, but I wonder what these people in the south of England would do if they were hit by unemployment, and were forced to go and use a food bank.

{Ed001's Note - you forgot about immigrants, they also get the blame for taking jobs, even though they take the jobs the moaners refuse to do anyway.}

09 May 2015 12:55:51
I thought it was labour that deregulated the banks ,i know that it was labour that gave fred goodwin a knighthood,it was labour that saved northern rock,when they should have let it go down the tubes,and used the money that they used to prop it (a lot going on bankers bonuses) to look after the account holders etc.

09 May 2015 16:31:59
Another thing in answer to paulbhoy, he says the economy is the strongest it's been in 20 years, but when Labour left office the economy was growing by nearly 1%,when the tories took over they took the country back into recession, and now the economy is growing by 0.3%, they are also the first government since the 1920's where the people were worse off at the end of their term in office, than they were at the start of it, yet they have managed to persuade people that this is some economic miracle.
I think Cameron has maybe shot himself in the foot, as he made a lot of wild promises, that he's going to struggle to find the money for, he assumed he would be in coalition, and so could drop these promises and blame the other half of the coalition.
All this extra money he's promised for the health service, child care, etc, cannot be raised from tax rises, as he's going to pass a law saying they can't put taxes up. so he'll either have to ditch these promises, or more likely he'll hit the poor, the disabled, and the vulnerable.
Whatever he does it won't be good for people who are not comfortably off.

09 May 2015 17:53:06
Mrs E map of scotland election results show a landslide majority for SNP. Majority of people never wanted Tories, we can't change how people in England voted. Only reason Tories got in again was simple. Ed Milliband is a p*ick who is untrustworthy. Any sibling who would run against there own brother for leadership is capable of anything.

Reality is Mrs E, we are all f*cked untill someone comes along who we can all believe in

09 May 2015 18:02:10
The Tory Government is certainly the correct Government for the 1% of the population who is rich and famous . They rely on these people to employ us , on zero hour contracts , to feed us , through a system of food banks and to entertain us by having sports stars , especially footballers who earn in 6 months or less as much money as most people earn in their life-time . Instead of taking a decent slice of their obscene wages in taxes , the Government allow tax breaks and turn a blind eye to tax avoidance as if it were a right for the super rich .,

09 May 2015 19:35:13
DN30, I think Mrs E is right in what she says, it doesn't matter a jot who your local MP is, they can do absolutely nothing for you, now the tories are back in power.
I know the Labour party has lost the trust of a lot of their supporters, but in all honesty they are the only alternative to a tory government in a UK election.
It seems to me, that people would rather give the Labour party a kicking, than kick out the tories, but unfortunately a lot of people are going to suffer because of this

{Ed007's Note - You can't expect people to vote for Labour just to keep the Tories out, you want people to ignore their principals because it suits what YOU (not you personally) want. Everyone that voted No in September got exactly what they were told they would get, more Tory rule, so they can't complain.
Why not attack 'No' voters, why didn't people just vote 'Yes' in September? That would have kept the Tories out of Scotland for ever and probably a Labour government in power now. What's the difference from what you're asking people to do?
It's just nonsense to say SNP voters are to blame for us having a Tory government, it's Labours fault for not doing what their voters wanted and driving people away from the party. I didn't vote SNP and I've loved every minute of seeing Labour obliterated.}

09 May 2015 21:15:09
ED I'm not just referring to Scotland, Labour has lost support everywhere, but the way our election system works, there can only be 2 possible governments, either Labour or Conservative. I can't see how the election result in any way helps Scotland get independence.
I certainly don't think that Labour are up to much, but in my personal circumstances, it's a case of voting for the lesser of 2 evils, as someone who cares for a disabled person, I can't afford the luxury of voting to give a particular party a kicking, I am probably going to be hit hard in the next 5 years, and I had to vote to try and prevent this.

{Ed007's Note - I totally agree about independence, Gerry that ship has sailed as far as I'm concerned and I can't see any way we'll get another referendum any time soon but I can totally understand why people voted against Labour. What I'm saying is that what's happened was expected after September, as soon as it came back a 'No' vote it was always going to be another 5 years of Tories, I can't see how anyone is surprised by it. I don't know what the talk about kicking any particular party means, isn't that the nature of politics, Labour gambled and lost, it's nobody else's fault, blame the Labour party for not convincing enough people to trust them and vote for them. If anything it shows how good a campaign the SNP ran and to blame the SNP voters for their defeat is a bit childish imo, they're trying to blame the SNP, the SNP voters and anyone but themselves for their own abject failure.}

09 May 2015 21:32:33
And there you have it, would rather see a Thatcher's children governing than the party that gave us The NHS, the Welfare State and Devolution all because of the Referendum

Que abuse 😄

{Ed007's Note -

09 May 2015 22:09:31
Ed. I agree using the word embarrassing was not a good choice.I like " ridiculous " or your word "nonsense " from above better but thought that might be a bit strong from a first time poster!
I am posting ( not supposedly ) from Henderson Nevada because that's where I live.
Why do I care about this subject?
I am a Scot ( born in Copeland Road which was a bit dangerous for a Celtic fan growing up ) and I still have family that I support both in Scotland and in England.
I would have voted " Yes " in September if I was allowed a vote on the future of the country I was born in and grew up in.
I look forward to posting about matters football and CFC

{Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard then, Paul, I just thought it was a bit strange for a first post.}

09 May 2015 22:18:15
You've just used the past as a reason not to vote them

09 May 2015 22:30:48
why do people keep blaming the snp for labours failure to win enough seats in england?,all cameron had to do was wave that note that liam byrnne left and the job was done,or maybe they remembered how brown had 'saved' the banking system,he had the chance when the rbs,loyds etc were bailed out to change the bankers salaries and the obscene bonus system but he did sfa.

09 May 2015 22:43:27
Mrs E Labour lost all credibility in 1994 when John Smith died. This same Labour party that was responsible for putting economic pressure on us all, by idiots like Gordon Browns poor chancellor skills and even worse leadership. Also this same Labour party who lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq. Yes your right! They will really do a better job than anyone else

09 May 2015 22:44:52
ED I'm not knocking anyone for voting SNP, they certainly have a lot of appeal, and the SNP, are not responsible for Labour not winning the election as a lot of people in England deserted Labour as well.
For all you say though about illegal wars, dodgy deals etc, a general election can only produce either a Labour government doing these, or a tory government government doing dirty deals with their cronies.
If your circumstances mean it doesn't matter who is in government, then it allows you to vote for who you like, but people like myself, who are likely to be hit hard by a tory government, can only vote for the only alternative, whatever their faults.

{Ed007's Note - You have my sympathy mate and I understand how hard it is trying to get by with a disability, it's the treatment of people/families like you in Scotland that gets my back up but I don't think there's any REAL difference between Tory or Labour any more and I'd say that a lot of young people (16-25) will be lost to the Labour party for ever now because of that and because of the referendum - you can't discount Labour's role in that for their downfall - and the belittling of people by some for taking their revenge by voting SNP isn't helping anyone and takes away from the very successful SNP election campaign, why not look at what Labour done wrong?
It will take a monumental effort from Labour to turn this round in this generation never mind 5 years time, the best they can hope for in Scotland is a massive fall from the 'utopia' of the SNP and again I can't see that either.
Obviously you and your family have my best wishes, Gerry, all I can offer is a platform for a rant if you ever need one, God bless mate.}

09 May 2015 22:18:15
You've just used the past as a reason not to vote them

09 May 2015 22:30:48
why do people keep blaming the snp for labours failure to win enough seats in england?,all cameron had to do was wave that note that liam byrnne left and the job was done,or maybe they remembered how brown had 'saved' the banking system,he had the chance when the rbs,loyds etc were bailed out to change the bankers salaries and the obscene bonus system but he did sfa.

09 May 2015 22:43:27
Mrs E Labour lost all credibility in 1994 when John Smith died. This same Labour party that was responsible for putting economic pressure on us all, by idiots like Gordon Browns poor chancellor skills and even worse leadership. Also this same Labour party who lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq. Yes your right! They will really do a better job than anyone else

09 May 2015 22:09:31
Ed. I agree using the word embarrassing was not a good choice.I like " ridiculous " or your word "nonsense " from above better but thought that might be a bit strong from a first time poster!
I am posting ( not supposedly ) from Henderson Nevada because that's where I live.
Why do I care about this subject?
I am a Scot ( born in Copeland Road which was a bit dangerous for a Celtic fan growing up ) and I still have family that I support both in Scotland and in England.
I would have voted " Yes " in September if I was allowed a vote on the future of the country I was born in and grew up in.
I look forward to posting about matters football and CFC

{Ed007's Note - I just thought it was odd for a first ever post, Paul but welcome to the site and don't be shy to pass an opinion.}

09 May 2015 22:44:52
ED I'm not knocking anyone for voting SNP, they certainly have a lot of appeal, and the SNP, are not responsible for Labour not winning the election as a lot of people in England deserted Labour as well.
For all you say though about illegal wars, dodgy deals etc, a general election can only produce either a Labour government doing these, or a tory government government doing dirty deals with their cronies.
If your circumstances mean it doesn't matter who is in government, then it allows you to vote for who you like, but people like myself, who are likely to be hit hard by a tory government, can only vote for the only alternative, whatever their faults.

{Ed007's Note - I totally understand where you're coming from, Gerry and it's people like you that have my sympathy. IMO the main problems in Britain aren't going to be sorted with either Labour or the Tories in power, both parties are just different cheeks of the same ar$e these days.
I would say there's a good chance that because of Labour's role in the referendum and what's happened since there is a whole generation of 16 - 25 y.o that are lost to Labour for ever now, to them Labour is our generations Thatcher Tories, that's how deep the feelings run.}

10 May 2015 01:31:17
gerry you sound like shuper ally saying but it is 'rangers 'when they are going down the tubes, the labour party has no right to say they represent the working classes just because they are the labour party,all the most of the labour mp's have been interested in the last ten years is their own bank accounts

10 May 2015 08:43:12
What part in Labour's manifesto was the same as Tories lol

Rupert Murdoch backed Tory and SNP as Labour's ideals this time were to left wing for him and his empire, shame on anyone who fell hook, line & sinker for it.

I'll predict 2020 election right now, SNP & Tory both lose seats. Scotland will still be part of the UK but almost bankrupt due to SNP's influence in Holyrood (hopefully we have a good turnout for this next year though)

Until FPTP system is reviewed, reality is - if you did not vote for Labour then you have the Govt you wished for 👍

None of my business who anyone voted for but I know in my constituency and the neighbouring Hamilton East one, there was no choice of SSP or Green - if you didn't vote Labour or SNP then it was either Lib Dem (Tory lite), UKIP (lol) or Tory (Thatcher)