Celtic Banter Archive January 09 2015

09 Jan 2015 23:12:31
Just read RD talkin about wee Maloney there, and maybe bringing back again! Anybody heard anythin and what's peoples opinions? Think he would be a bargain at a million, good experience as well now which I feel we need more of.

He's had two chances and that's more than a lot of good players get to wear the Hoops. There is no doubt he has ability, but he has injury problems and we have too many injury prone players on the books at the club these days.

Has there ever been a player signed for Celtic 3 times? just curious cannot think of anyone myself

Would love to see Maloney back hope it happens, been very impressed with him recently.

Would need to be a one year contract though as he is 31 now 🙊

09 Jan 2015 20:57:08
I expected to log on here and see a list of posts all giving Stevie Woods pelters for questioning Craig Gordon's fitness and saying he only expected him to play 15 games this season and that he had exceeded expectations by playin 25. Weren't there posters on here saying the manager will have taken a look at him and decided to sign him? Well not according to our GK coach. Rayman are you there.Stevie Woods is contradicting you :=D

{Ed007's Note - I seen Woods saying he knew Gordon's goal coverage wasn't up to scratch, exactly what cost us the goal against Maribor, the GK caught in no man's land.}

6 feet off his line and that is no man's land? good help RD if that is all they have on CG!

Oh then there's the St Mirren goal via the "short" through out must have week hands too right?

{Ed007's Note - I've already explained it, and the footage proves it. It's quite important as it cost us a CL spot. A fully fit and mentally sharp GK would have saved it. Gordon was, and continues to be, neither.
As for the goal against St Mirren, how many ops has he had on his his arm? He rushed back from having steel plate removed and broke the same arm after only a few days in training, obviously his arm is weaker than it was in 2009. Any doctor will tell you that and if there's one thing I know about it's broken bones, having pins and plates fitted then removed and the consequences of it.
Maybe you should wonder why the club signed a GK that our GK coach has came out and said was signed as aback-up and who he expected to play 15 games this season, Woods clearly wasn't that confident in Gordon'slong term fitness in the summer.
Go and moan at Stevie Woods about it, he's just confirmed what I've been saying for months.}

Well that escalated quickly... (smoking)

Hi Ed, All about opinions we have had this one before as you say the footage shows circa 6 feet from his line if you could give me another example of a keeper being "caught in no mans land 6 feet from goal " and tagged that a would be much obliged and caught out via possibly a DOUBLE deflection?

6 goals against LW where they waltz through us minus a STRIKER, Stefan Johansen, blocking a goal bound header, either LW or Maribor lacking CL in circa 15 years prior, Maribor a team with not a TRANSFER FEE player amid them and CG cost us a CL spot!

Oh if they give him POTY award no doubt about it it will " just be a sympathy vote "

After the game when we discussed this you said "Am not BLAMING him they were all hopeless " your words Ed

Just find it all a tad harsh & now are we "faulting" him for superseding expectations?

So it's not all right to criticise RD but CG is open season?

ATVB JB7

{Ed007's Note - I've got far better things to do with my time than go trawling for video clips, get a grip of yourself. Any GK will tell you when the ball is travelling away from the goal make sure you move to have your goal-line covered, Gordon didn't, it's really that simple, if he had stepped back into position he would have saved it. As I said, take it up with Stevie Woods, I'm just agreeing with the CFC GK coach.}

@AH I havnt seen this statement so difficult to comment, but from what you say CG has exceeded expectation? If only all the players had done this as well as the manager we might be in the CL and be well ahead in the CL.

Would have been nice to get the MAJORITY of the article,

Starts with "Craig's performances have been remarkable especially when you consider the circumstances"

" The only way to test him was to have him in a had him in the Tuesday and a absolutely BATTERED him"

"He has played 25 games for us and he is only going to get BETTER"

Lets hope we are ALL agreeing with the CFC GK coach (y)

{Ed007's Note - If that's the majority of the article you've read then it's a different one to me, that's just two sentences. Are you denying that he said Gordon was brought in 'initially we were thinking of him playing 15 games as back-up to Fraser.'?}

It's actually 3 sentences Ed :-)

agreed he did say that initially, but having exceeded expectations if the GK coach thinks he is only going to get better surely we are not on the lookout for a new keeper

Or alternatively is it the same people that want RD to fail to say "HAH I told you so" that want CG to breakdown to say the exact same thing?

{Ed007's Note - I don't know, but I can already say 'I told you so' and I really don't give a monkeys what anyone else thinks. If you're only expecting someone to play 15 games a season anything more than that is better. I said when Gordon signed he wasn't anywhere near fully fit, that's now been confirmed by Stevie Woods. See, I told you so (hi)

Ed, please give us an in depth analysis of the goals that fraser lost to his fault, (and there were a lot ), before you start critiscising gordons few mistakes, happy that gordons here, happy for southhampton that foster there because he is a good goalie.

{Ed007's Note - I'll do that if you can give us all an in depth analysis of how no goal CFC have conceded this season is Gordon's fault. He's the only GK in world football who is never at fault for any goal, I can see Real Madrid bidding for him if he keeps up all these clean sheets.
Maybe we should all start a petition that any goals scored against us when Gordon's playing don't count. I'm sure someone in the #celticfamily will be able to organise it. If that fails I'm sure there's plenty of room for a statue at the front of the stadium, how about Craig Gordon Way? Or we could rename the ramps at the front of the stadium after him?}

Again agreed Ed you did say that but having got fit " he is only going to get better " (y)

{Ed007's Note - Jamie, he will never be fully fit, that's been my point all along. You don't go through what he went through and still be anywhere near as strong or as fit as you were. His knees, and arm to an extent, will never be 100% again.}

I never said that he didn't make mistakes, ed, but every goalie does, you just seem to enjoy a little too much when gordon does, I still think he's the best goalkeeper we have had for a very long time, and I will be interested if you can bring any statistics to the fore that will prove different.

{Ed007's Note - Why can't you provide the stats to show he is? It's you that's saying it, back it up.}

Hi Ed, A fully accept that a always have said on this that Gordon's report card will read so far so good and that is fair but a also a shame HL got a pin inserted it never hindered him

Maybe am just a fully fledged signed up member of the GK's union (having been one) but now having superseded expectations surely we just leave him to get on with it?

One thing is for sure if RD does the same he will be painted a saint and we will all be happy (y)

{Ed007's Note - Larsson kept the pin in his leg though, there's a huge difference, trust me.}

09 Jan 2015 18:48:08
Is there still no news about the other trialist for last nights game against Newcastle?

As far as I know both trialist have been sent home and told to wait to see if there are any developments .

09 Jan 2015 16:22:54
I have to admit I was a wee bit sceptical of this Gran Canaria trip especially when I heard we would be playing 2 games on top.
But ED007 informed me and everyone on here that all expenses were being met. Now with the weather here being so awful and the team getting good training under their belts, allied to some decent young players getting game time and some of our first team players that need game time as well as Tonev it looks a good decision made by the manager and the club. I hope he works on formations for the Inter games which I assume he will do.

I reckon it would have been a good idea even if it had cost us to be honest.

Not like money's an issue or is it? Out of these young players getting a game, whos going to come back and get a game? No one a guess

09 Jan 2015 13:22:09
Been made aware of a comment in today's daily rag from a so called Celtic fan. Wanting Inter to hammer Celtic so Deila has to go. What a disgusting thing for any Celtic fan to say. And also abuse of Biton & Ambrose. Truly disgusting behaviour.

09 Jan 2015 14:59:27
I read this and was absolutely disgusted, but the more I think about it the more I think it's just the day late ranger stirring it , no true Celtic fan would have made those comments.

{Ed007's Note - Look on forums and social media and there's plenty of so called supporters saying it.}

Stan19 unfortunately we have always had and probably always will have persons like that who claim to be Celtic fans . Either they are fans of other teams purporting to be Celtic fans or else they are very stupid Celtic fans .
How can any person constantly criticising or ridiculing Celtic, the manager or individual players be of any help to the club .

I think that was a servco fan at the wind up and the ranker lapped it up

I don't know if anyone of you have Celtic rumours Now on but after every thing they post there are far too many 'fans' with this Deila Out attitude.

09 Jan 2015 16:05:08
really can't understand what peoples problem is with him. there is obviously 2 things people always mention

countless times have I heard:

1) playing one up front in spl. but they can't see he's changed the system so we are ready for europe and not always changing the system for who we play. also this works even better cause its a flexible one up front as the players interchange and when the ball is lost go back to there positions to attack again

2) kris commons is deadly on his day and should be offered a 2 year deal. yes on his day he will score but how many of these days can we expect from the season? in europe with kc we are already a man down imo

maybe its chris sutton talking a lot of sh!te to newspapers. I wouldn't put it past him to come out with something like this

I am desperate for RD to succeed and truly believe he will. If it takes the man a season to build his own team then so be it I am right behind him. Time these people got behind the manager and team instead of their constant negative views. These people would probably argue that the players should be eating burgers and chips between training sessions!

You don't have to look to far Ed.there's a few of them here!

{Ed007's Note -

I want ronny to succeed but let's not forget we've lost 8 games before Christmas and and none of them were highly rated so I think that gives people the right to criticise.
Stan19 you mention the diet but do you honestly think the players look fitter after 6 months?i think the diet issues at the start of season was obviously blown out of proportion by many

@Briggs How very bloody well dare you! There's people on here who've followed the Hoops since 243 AD and they are entitled to their opinion. Some call it constructive criticism but you have to know what you're talking about for it to be constructive, that's the bit they don't get.

@Jim1972 That's fair enough but where do all the posters who whine and bitch in every post go to when there's nothing to moan about? They slunk back under their rock when we were on a winning run then all appeared when we lost to Dundee Utd and drew with Ross County, they only post when there's something negative say. there's posters on here that have never gave Deila a chance since day one and want him to fail, they think we're that stupid we can't see it.

@ah perhaps people crawl under the rocks when we win as you put it is because beating Killie etc is expected and shouldn't be described as terrific. A well done should be suffice and save terrific for real achievements like beating decent teams and winning trophies or consistently good performances

@Jim1972 What trophies have we lost this season, we're in a better position than we were last year. So now we just expect to turn up and win, when did we take on the Zombies mindset I must have missed that. That seems a bit arrogant to me and I'd think a 10 game unbeaten run was a consistent run yet as soon as we lost to Utd they all slithered back, even some of them from their self imposed exiles from the site.

Jim1972, I only mentioned that because some people will find any excuse to have a go at RD, Impossible for me to say if they look fitter but if players are eating good food/drinks rather than junk food then of course they will be a lot healthier, You get from your body what you put into it as they say. Some players have already stated they feel better for being on a better diet.

Well I called it C C never ever have I wanted RD in fact I said how dare anyone call for anyone to be sacked this is someone's livelihood!

Just don't tell me "progress" because plenty don't see it

I really don't understand this attitude were in a better position than last year, I see us getting poorer year on year winning trophies is great but the standard of play is still falling surely you can see that?
I'm hoping this winter break re-energises the players and ronny comes back with the players raring to go as I don't expect any new arrivals unless players leave.

Jamiebhoy did you canvas a 100 Celtic fans like Groutdoc when you say plenty haven't seen an improvement.

@1.anyone, champions league., for what ever reason I blame rd for that fiasco, whether it be playing berget or whatever his name is, not playing kriss commons, playing everyone out of position, he's like a young kid learning the ropes, but I will give him alittle time, but I don't see the point of him celebrating when the tic beat kilmarnockj when the mighty 'glasgow rangers' have just done that.(joke)

10 Jan 2015 11:38:17
I rememeber the same discussion on the United page last year and the LDC page this year. It actually was a poll I think. "Would a big loss against LFC or against Manutd be accepted if it gets Moyes or Rodgers sacked?"
Whay would anyone wanna see their team fail, even just for one match? Where is the fanspirit? Where is the "in thick and thin?"
I never wanted Moyes at United to be honest, but I never wanted the team to lose.

In days like this you really see who's in it for the long run. United has had the far biggest supporterclub in Norway, but this year LFC has taken over. this just say's it all.

I just think it was a bad decision .
Moyes becoming manager of Manchester United .
Bad for Moyes .

09 Jan 2015 05:10:27
Anyone know who the 2 trialists are that scored all 3 goals for Celtic's Development Side after they defeated Newcastle 3-1 in a closed-doors game on Tyneside last night?

Michael Duffy got 2, no idea who the other was.

Cian kavanagh, young attacking midfielder from shamrock rovers was the second scorer, good night for young irish lads, HH