Celtic Banter Archive December 09 2016

09 Dec 2016 23:07:57
Armstrong he's totally focused on playing for Celtic.

09 Dec 2016 23:27:02
Armstrong and broony are like 2 new quality signings, too often brown was made the scapegoat during Ronnie's tenure. Team are playing great, scoring goals and are easy on the eye. 2 trophies in the bag, a few bob that pistol Pete will hopefully give to the manager, keep the rest of them looking at us disappear into the distance and enjoy it for years to come. Mon the Hoops.

10 Dec 2016 00:49:09
You have to admit thou, Brown was just going through the motions until BR arrived. He was on a few "need to sell" lists
It hard to fathom the difference management has meant to what I would have considered ok squad players last season.

{Ed007's Note - Leigh Griffiths, Kieran Tirney, working on getting Rogic fit etc All things RD done. I noticed there wasn't the usual posts about managers and coaches when Brendan Rodgers spoke on Wednesday (I think it was) about fitness, commitment and living your life 24/7 the right away for a professional footballer. Our previous manager was saying the same things and getting laughed at - yet one of the things Rodgers and his team have been impressed with is the sports science department that RD overhauled.
If you think Ridgers doesn't believe in the same principles just listen to his quotes from his first meeting with Scott Brown when they had dinner together.
Who said this:
""The thing I tried to reinforce with him over that first meal was lifestyle. It's 24 hours a day. If you want to be the very best –an elite player – and to maximise your talent – it’s 24 hours a day lifestyle."

10 Dec 2016 02:15:17
All good and fine sir but Deila being a nice man was a "laptop man". Maybe there are smarter men about than us that decided that this is the root, we need a scapegoat with great ideas, sow the seeds, hang him out to dry, bring in someone, the same but different, . I don't know . BR wasn't my first choice. I would have went for Koeman. He wasn't an option so I would have went with Keane with what was been offered.

10 Dec 2016 10:16:13
Keane; dodged a bullet there never a manager loved him as a player but that's it.

10 Dec 2016 09:46:48
The difference from last year to this year is night and day.

10 Dec 2016 09:41:08
There was an event within the SMSM that did everything in their power to undermine Deila and got away with it because Deila was not a household name. On top of that, there was an element within our support who followed like sheep, unable to form an informed opinion of their own. In the end the SMSM propaganda became a self fulfilling prophecy and Deila started to slowly lose the dressing room and fans. In the end the pressure became too much for him and there was no way back.

As you rightly point out Ed, the same protagonists are not ridiculing Rodgers, despite saying the exact same things Deila was ridiculed for saying. The reason they are not doing it to Rodgers is that they know it won't wash because he is a household name.

10 Dec 2016 11:13:49
Rabmac, there are still 'supporters' of our team, supposedly anyway, who still bash Rd at any point despite constantly being put in their place by Ed n a few others n still come out with utter crap. Rd won us 4 and 5 in a row n whatever anybody says his legacy will always be part of 10 in a row, bet that stings a few haha.
Won't go over old ground as there's clearly a few on here who forget everything that is said but with a limited budget, poor backroom staff, average players, no support from the board n commons he still did a great job.

Add to that the media attacking him, as well as so called 'supporters', Despite winning trophies, funnily enough something the golden boy pep warbiola can't do yeh they suck up his arse something awful, we won 3 trophies over rd's time n his methods r the same as Brendan's about being an athlete as Ed said yet he was laughed at on here by some n in media etc all because commons didn't want to lose weight n others clearly didn't want to be the best athlete n football player they can be, now everyone's falling over themselves to do it.

Scotland is an embarrassment for that kind of thinking, we r way behind n Rd brought us out of the dark ages n I'm eternally grateful for everything he did n back every Celtic manager to the hilt, same as the players so long as they play for the jersey, play for the fans.
Hail hail.

10 Dec 2016 02:15:17
All good and fine sir but Deila being a nice man was a "laptop man". Maybe there are smarter men about than us that decided that this is the root, we need a scapegoat with great ideas, sow the seeds, hang him out to dry, bring in someone, the same but different, . I don't know . BR wasn't my first choice. I would have went for Koeman. He wasn't an option so I would have went with Keane with what was been offered.

10 Dec 2016 14:33:28
Great post bigshaw.

10 Dec 2016 07:18:24
Great point there Ed007 (clap) . BR would have had a lot more to do, had it not been for the work RD was doing in bringing our club up to speed. I was also saying to a mate the other week after the BMG away game, that the way we now approach opponents in Europe, was actually started under RD as well. That we don't just hit the long ball, hope for a set-piece etc. It's just a shame RD wasn't celtic minded, there are too many dinosaurs and bangers around, just look at some of the embarrassing damnations already of somebody like Cathro. I was still confident under RD that the players we already had, and still play, would come on a level. Like I always harped on, his ideas take time. I'm taking nothing away from BR and what he's done so far, but RD made it a heck of an easier job, and dare I say it, we're actually reaping some of the benefits of his work. BR has been allowed to be a proper manager though. I'm still a bit indignant RD wasn't given that licence, but we're in good hands now, with BR and his licence to thrill.

10 Dec 2016 09:26:08
RD's time came too soon for him (imo) Ed. I liked the guy and his ideas were spot on. He was just not ready and strong enough when the chance came. Your post is spot on about no real difference in philosophy and attitude. BR comes with more credibility having managed a big club in PL. (not saying any better but facts are facts)
One thing I will say is that BR seems to have a Plan B and C when Plan A is not working. RD never struck me as having anything other than Plan A. He would change players but Plan A was still on the park.

10 Dec 2016 23:07:54
It saddens me reading in my view over the top slagging if RD. He did his best, he contributed two titles, he brought players we are now raving about.

In the end he didn't inspire those players to progress in a way Rogers has.

He was a good man and he gave his all. I'm suck if Sytton continually running him down. It's effin boring now.

For me RD will be remembered as a man who helped Rogers be a success. I won't forget that and I wish Ronnie well.

09 Dec 2016 22:27:14
Also, missing the weekly updates from Mr Timalloy 😭 the man cracks me up.

09 Dec 2016 21:38:50
If I wanted my 6yr old to listen to songs about the IRA I would of took him to see Shebeen! Absolutely shocking from certain so called "Supporters" tonight! Listen to all that p1sh on busses etc but singing it in football stadium is tragic! I'm there to watch my team play football, not listen to songs about the queen! The best thing is the morons that are singing they songs have no idea what they are even singing about! Uneducated idiots!

09 Dec 2016 21:47:23
Serious question: how do you know that they don't?

09 Dec 2016 21:54:22
That's my opinion and I'm allowed to have it, your the first to have one so I'm sure you will understand TPP 😄. Would you be happy taking young children to a FOOTBALL game for to listen to that?

09 Dec 2016 21:58:03
So you don't actually know that?

That's all you had to say.

09 Dec 2016 22:03:23
You send your kid to school to have them indoctrinated with religion and how glorious the armed forces are and that is far worse than have them listen to a few rebel tunes.

Who knows your son may like it and grow up into a good republican and throw of the middle class sensibilities you have tried to instill in them.

09 Dec 2016 22:14:38
So "RabMac". You think it's acceptable for young children to listen to "**** The Queen" etc? If the fact you think that's acceptable then I actually feel sorry for your children, well if you actually have any 👍.

{Ed007's Note - Did you turn the TV off or send your 6 year old out the room or did you sit and draw his attention to the songs by moaning about it?
I said myself that the 90 minute rebs sesh was a bit much but why the hell is everything brought down to the 'Think about the children' to try and get some sympathy for whatever someone wants to moan about.}

09 Dec 2016 22:33:11
Totally agree about not drawing their attention to it, try and get the kids to focus on the good football we are seeing, it's a lot better just now than when I was growing up.

09 Dec 2016 22:33:30
Just had to turn down the volume as had no choice as didn't want to listen to that trash! If children are forced to listen to that garbage then they will no doubt grow up to sing that garbage also. Sorry for wanting my kid to have some form of understanding that it is wrong to sing "songs" like that!, I don't want sympathy clown, I want to go to or watch a football game without tramps singing trash about something that has nothing to do with FOOTBALL!

{Ed007's Note - Right, you didn't want to listen to it, could you not just say that without bringing kids into it, how many songs did it take before you turned the sound down?
And here's a thing, I'm dying to know how you could possibly explain what the wrong songs were if you had the volume turned down - how could you know what was being sung? Or were you just sitting telling your kid 'see that song they tramps are singing that you can't hear, don't ever let me catch you singing that'?
I think we know who the clown is here so calm down, Coco.}

09 Dec 2016 23:07:06
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{Ed007's Note - You raging? I hope your kid didn't see you typing that!

10 Dec 2016 00:40:47
so michael you don't want your son to listen to IRISH rebel songs, so why do you have the IRISH flag on your logo?

10 Dec 2016 01:35:55
Michael_Dundee_7

Whilst i totally agree with your sentiment about that rubbish having absolutely nothing to do with football and having no place in a football stadium, I think the what about the children line is a bit much.

Children only grow up to be easily led and drawn towards this unsavoury behaviour if they are brought up to not think for themselves and given a clear distinction over right and wrong (a cliche I know) . Yes they can rebel at somepoint but your child is going to grow up and at somepoint will see murderers, wars and rape on the TV and even potentially see horrors infront of their own eyes outwith your control. (we can be an awful species a lot of the time) but because he/ she is being exposed to it doesn't mean they are going to go out and do it at the first or every opportunity. If people are brought up to glorify people whom in principle have valid political and social goals but have some completely abhorrent ways (and yes the reactions were provoked over a long long time, still doesn't make it right) of trying to get what they want without pointing that bit out you are going to end up with a wee fud

The fuds that generally go in for this constant tripe (from who i have met) are brought up in an environment where this is acceptable and normalised behaviour, they do not know when enough is enough or they are such wee fuds that they just don't care and do it purely for the reaction of others, like trolling really.

Try having a convo with the people that consistently drag this stuff up at matches and you will see that they just don't care what you are saying and have no real idea what the ideals are that they purport to support. Bring your kid up with the facts, don't hide the unsavoury from them because you are worried it will appeal, let them learn why these people do it, let them know what can happen to people that take it too far and i'm pretty certain you will end up with a more knowledgeable person as a result. i'm not saying to get the rebs on and purposefully expose a 6 year old to it all, they are still too innocent to grasp it all. But it hearing it through the telly or at a stadium etc is hardly going to turn them into a wee fud unless you as a parent allow it to. For example I've listened to death metal my whole life and my son is Autistic (he picks up the tiniest of nuances in everything around him and without close watching will run and run with the oddest of things if allowed) but he doesn't go around saying he is going to rip someones head off because he heard it in a song, he still knows that yes you can think it if angered but don't bloody say it or do it 😀 and he has less of these right normal social filters that most of us have naturally.

Yes point out where these fuds are being fuds, but don't hide your kid from the world because some of it is unsavoury, let them see it (in doses where possible, but sometimes crap is going to be flung infront of your face and teach them what's the right and wrong way to go about stating your beliefs and expressing yourself in the correct and appropriate places.

I hope I've made sense here, easy to think out but not to type without sounding like a sanctimonious turd ( which i know i actually am) 😀.

10 Dec 2016 07:46:53
Good to read your posts again Evinguu.

10 Dec 2016 09:41:04
mick bud, like myself teach your kid to be a leader, not a follower. not a bad thing to do in this day and age, take care mate.

10 Dec 2016 10:15:27
you should be educating your kids on the subject matter of the songs and how they are about the evils done to the Irish by the oppressive british state.

10 Dec 2016 09:42:36
Our kids are taught that the Romans stole the world through killing as did the British, they are told 6 million Jews were killed, the plague killed millions, nuclear bombs, the establishment is not to be questioned and to always follow the system or else, this is 5 days a week.

What they are not told is the other side to all of those stories, And believe me there are a lot worse stories than I mentioned. My point is children are bombarded with guns violence greed selfishness etc., so why shouldn't they be allowed or even have to listen to songs being sung especially ones that let's you know how a people felt.

I agree it shouldn't really be mixed with football but what other chance to these people have to be heard. of course this only applies if they actually know what they are singing about singing for the sake of being offensive to someone is just stupid.

10 Dec 2016 01:35:55
Michael_Dundee_7

Whilst i totally agree with your sentiment about that rubbish having absolutely nothing to do with football and having no place in a football stadium, I think the what about the children line is a bit much.

Children only grow up to be easily led and drawn towards this unsavoury behaviour if they are brought up to not think for themselves and given a clear distinction over right and wrong (a cliche I know) . Yes they can rebel at somepoint but your child is going to grow up and at somepoint will see murderers, wars and rape on the TV and even potentially see horrors infront of their own eyes outwith your control. (we can be an awful species a lot of the time) but because he/ she is being exposed to it doesn't mean they are going to go out and do it at the first or every opportunity. If people are brought up to glorify people whom in principle have valid political and social goals but have some completely abhorrent ways (and yes the reactions were provoked over a long long time, still doesn't make it right) of trying to get what they want without pointing that bit out you are going to end up with a wee fud

The fuds that generally go in for this constant tripe (from who i have met) are brought up in an environment where this is acceptable and normalised behaviour, they do not know when enough is enough or they are such wee fuds that they just don't care and do it purely for the reaction of others, like trolling really.

Try having a convo with the people that consistently drag this stuff up at matches and you will see that they just don't care what you are saying and have no real idea what the ideals are that they purport to support. Bring your kid up with the facts, don't hide the unsavoury from them because you are worried it will appeal, let them learn why these people do it, let them know what can happen to people that take it too far and i'm pretty certain you will end up with a more knowledgeable person as a result. i'm not saying to get the rebs on and purposefully expose a 6 year old to it all, they are still too innocent to grasp it all. But it hearing it through the telly or at a stadium etc is hardly going to turn them into a wee fud unless you as a parent allow it to. For example I've listened to death metal my whole life and my son is Autistic (he picks up the tiniest of nuances in everything around him and without close watching will run and run with the oddest of things if allowed) but he doesn't go around saying he is going to rip someones head off because he heard it in a song, he still knows that yes you can think it if angered but don't bloody say it or do it 😀 and he has less of these right normal social filters that most of us have naturally.

Yes point out where these fuds are being fuds, but don't hide your kid from the world because some of it is unsavoury, let them see it (in doses where possible, but sometimes crap is going to be flung infront of your face and teach them what's the right and wrong way to go about stating your beliefs and expressing yourself in the correct and appropriate places.

I hope I've made sense here, easy to think out but not to type without sounding like a sanctimonious turd ( which i know i actually am) 😀.

10 Dec 2016 14:59:07
My wee Bhoy watched the whole game n thought it was amazing, he loves the Celtic, scoring goals, the colour, the songs, to him n to me it's magical n I love that atmosphere. He also loved Rd but I won't tell him our own supporters don't kind abusing their own manager or having ago at our own fans for backing the team n singing songs that r true, just for the record like me he now backs Brendan n will do every Celtic team manager.

09 Dec 2016 21:04:38
Nearly an hour in, 3-0 up. 10 players from last seasons side playing and we are in total control again. Either players had downed tools, or poor coaching, or maybe both. Either way I'm so glad we have Rodgers in charge at the minute. It looks like we are only going to get stronger, it's up to the rest of the league to do something or else we are just going to steam roller teams all season and next. It's good to be a Tim at the minute.

09 Dec 2016 22:21:00
Players don't down tools, good managers don't allow it.

10 Dec 2016 15:02:44
So how do u explain it super hero Gordon then? I assume he never had the tools to down n the 1st place? cost us the lead against city n easily could have saw red again last night and he cost Rd a treble in his 1st season but it's OK rayman can't stand Rd n will always be that bitter against the man despite celebrating the double under rd, u do realise that double standards, me I celebrate any trophies won n back the manager, whoever it is 100%, faithful thru n thru, u might want to read up on it instead of going on the sevco site to slag them off.
Hail hail.

09 Dec 2016
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09 Dec 2016 14:02:37
With sinclair and forrest injured and roberts not our player and europe over. should we give gms and christie an extended run In the team to see if they can step up/ improve under rodgers.

09 Dec 2016 15:05:06
I think we should get the best out of roberts while we have him, but as season wears on and we keep playing like we are there will probably be plenty of time to mix the team up as the season wears on if we pretty much wrap the league up by february.

09 Dec 2016 10:36:07
I see the Thistle manager is saying that our reserves would win the league and it is hard to argue with him when you look at our second string team:

Bailly

Gamboa Toure O'Connell Izzy

Bitton McGregor

Roberts Christie GMS

Griffiths

Subs: de Vries, Boyata, Ambrose, Ajer, Henderson, Commons, Çiftçi.

09 Dec 2016 13:55:02
Maybe so but I will wait until after tonight's match before making much comment . Our team worked exceptionally hard on Tueday night and Brendan and his assistants will have a big task making the players believe they are not tired tonight.