Celtic Banter Archive August 09 2018

 

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09 Aug 2018 23:43:32
BRs latest statement is magnificent. The man oozes class. I guess it's over to PL now.

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10 Aug 2018 00:21:57
He has made it clear he wants to be backed and if the club don't back him his job is done. This site is split between posters who keep on saying everything is fine and others who have been saying from the start of the transfer window we are not ambitious enough. BR has made it clear he thinks we as a club are not brave enough to fulfil his ambitions or the supporters ambition for the club. Its now or never. If we don't push forward now we will never do it. The club need to back this man or we lose him and the momentum we have built over the last 2 seasons. It really is crunch time and BR will be off st the end of the season.

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{Ed007's Note - You got a link to Rodgers saying this?}

10 Aug 2018 06:19:28
End of the season? The way he’s talking he won't be here for the first game against rangers unless he’s backed significantly in the last few weeks of the window. And unless we get to the CL group stage, I don't think we will splash the cash. Very interesting few weeks coming up.

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10 Aug 2018 07:04:31
Johnny, not sure if story is true but this is exactly what I was expecting given the lack of players signed. BR wanted them in early, it’s simple like many other clubs that have signed there targets.

It’s irrelevant with 3 weeks left, he clearly wanted his qualifiers to be made easier and he’s been left high n dry with no new players coming in

Now if the board don’t get there finger out we will be back to a Ronny Deila yes man type and a half empty stadium.

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10 Aug 2018 02:07:10
Ed he never said those exact words, but his statements recently read directly that he is not happy with the backing from the board.

It won't be surprising if it is his last year if he gets no backing.

but what isn't up for argument is that he's not pleased.

many people will defend the board but Rodgers opinion means more than any of them and it's telling how he feels.

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10 Aug 2018 03:03:23
Google Michael Gannon Brendan Rodgers interview. Daily Record. The report is everywhere.

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10 Aug 2018 07:50:28
Brendan Rodgers turned Celtics fortunes around when they got rid of Ronnie if we are not careful he will be turning round a premier league's fortune come January.

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10 Aug 2018 07:52:42
Sorry Ed I thought i added this last night.

BRENDAN RODGERS has talked about the moment he will realise his days of managing his boyhood idols Celtic are at an end. The champions’ boss denied there is a rift with the Parkhead board, but clearly there has been frustration at the lack of investment in the playing squad during the summer. Rodgers missed out on top target John McGinn who quit Hibs for Aston Villa in a £2.75million deal earlier this week. Asked if it would be over at Celtic if he stopped pushing to take the team forward, the Irishman replied: “Yeah. My job is done then. Terminado. Gone. “But that’s the challenge. You have to test yourself to the limit. You have to be courageous as a club. “It’s a joy to work here. I love my life here and enjoy being the manager here. “But it’s no good if I just sit back and get comfortable. Being comfortable is the enemy of progress. “I never allow it in my own life or professional life. You see it in sports and in industry. The minute you think you’re doing okay, it can quickly disappear – and that’s the greatest institutions. “You have to be mindful of that and keep getting stronger and stronger. ”Rodgers insisted there had been no fall-out behind the scenes and added: “Dermott (Desmond ) , Peter (Lawwell) and Ian (Bankier) all want what is best for Celtic. Critically, they are major shareholders and run the club. I have to respect that, and I do. “My ambition is for Celtic. Every manger is ambitious, but, for me, it’s inherently about the club. We’ve done a double treble, been invincible in one of those seasons, set a British record for unbeaten games. “We don’t want to stand still. How do we improve? We improve in Europe and in order to do that, it’s simple, is quality players. “The minute I start thinking otherwise and get comfortable, then progress stops. In football you can’t afford to do that. “It’s too late once the rot sets in. It’s too late. I’ve always tried to guard against it. “Especially after our first season, we built on it last year. We want to keep building on it. “I totally respect how difficult it can be, the financial side is tough at times. “I have a huge respect for the board here – absolutely. They have run the club strategically very, very well. “Me coming into here and what I have seen in the past couple of years, I have real good relations with every one of them. “There is not an issue there at all. My focus is on doing the best for Celtic. “Deep down I am a supporter, but I am also a professional manager. I also look for the help that is needed to take the team to the next level if that is what the demand is. “I will always push for that. ”.

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{Ed007's Note - So basically Rodgers has said that if he rests on his laurels and stops striving to better himself and Celtic there's no point in him being in the job and people have taken that and spun it to mean if the board don't spend money he'll quit.
Another bollocks non-story that the usual suspects will read what they want rather than what's actually been said.}

10 Aug 2018 10:41:50
Wow Ed if that's what you read from that and Rodgers other interviews then you really are just in denial.

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{Ed007's Note - I knew I'd have to break it down for the hard of thinking amongst us:

Asked if it would be over at Celtic if he stopped pushing to take the team forward, the Irishman replied:

"Yeah. My job is done then. Terminado. Gone. But that’s the challenge. You have to test yourself to the limit. You have to be courageous as a club. It’s a joy to work here. I love my life here and enjoy being the manager here. But it’s no good if I just sit back and get comfortable. Being comfortable is the enemy of progress. “I never allow it in my own life or professional life. You see it in sports and in industry. The minute you think you’re doing okay, it can quickly disappear – and that’s the greatest institutions.
You have to be mindful of that and keep getting stronger and stronger.
The minute I start thinking otherwise and get comfortable, then progress stops. In football you can’t afford to do that. "It’s too late once the rot sets in. It’s too late. I’ve always tried to guard against it."

Read what he's actually said there, he's saying there's no point being Celtic manager if you're not trying to push forward, at a Club like Celtic you can't just stand still. Did you miss the bits where he uses "I" as in he's talking about himself? Like this...

"But it’s no good if I just sit back and get comfortable."

"The minute Istart thinking otherwise and get comfortable, then progress stops."


Are you accusing the Celtic manager of lying?

"I totally respect how difficult it can be, the financial side is tough at times. "I have a huge respect for the board here – absolutely. They have run the club strategically very, very well. Me coming into here and what I have seen in the past couple of years, I have real good relations with every one of them. There is not an issue there at all. My focus is on doing the best for Celtic."

Every manager is at loggerheads with their board regarding signings and every manager tries to get as much money as possible out of the board, it's part of their job.
And where's all the people that think the manager is in full charge of transfers, why aren't they on blaming Rodgers for the McGinn situation?
As I have previously said - quite a lot of times- read what's actually being said instead of what you want it to say.}

10 Aug 2018 10:55:13
How is it a non story.

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{Ed007's Note - Because it's Brendan Rodgers talking about himself and what drives him on. He could have given the exact same interview in May after we secured the Double Treble and nobody would have batted an eyelid.}

10 Aug 2018 11:01:20
BR will never walk out on Celtic. The way i see it is he wants Celtic to act like the big club we claim to be. To do that he needs to be backed. For long enough the Board said but look what happened to Rangers. F@#$ Rangers. We are Celtic and we should rebuild as we see fit. Look at what O'Neill got to spend, did that near put us to the wall. Nowhere near it we spent and excelled. They should act like a big club and back the man who has won us double trebles and got the fans back through the gates. BR is a class act and deserves nothing less than the Boards full support, which i expect to happen over the next 2 weeks.

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{Ed007's Note - That's far too sensible, Stan.}

10 Aug 2018 11:23:18
I have to put in atleast one a season mate 😂.

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{Ed007's Note - Well that's you used up your quota for this season already!}

10 Aug 2018 11:32:28
“Deep down I am a supporter but I am also a professional manager. I also look for the help that is needed to take the team to the next level if that is what the demand is. I will always push for that. ”

Nothing ambiguous in that statement. Would he have made that statement if any of the players he wanted were here? No he wouldn’t. The fact they aren’t here is the issue. The reason he is speaking about it. He wanted players in early to have them ready for the most hazardous part of our season that held the greatest reward. Having three weeks to think, let’s have a look at the players we could have got if we fall next week will only intensify the feeling of an opportunity missed. I’m reading the Moos May be back and if he is that greatly improves our chances to pull this out if the fire.

I think we can do it, but it won’t be easy. With Boyata back and the mood it gives us a better chance. Pity about big Ajer though, but that’s fitba.

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09 Aug 2018 22:05:38
ED am I right in saying EPL teams can still get in loans or is it Championship teams?

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{Ed007's Note - The Championship can still loan players but the Pub League can't.}

10 Aug 2018 00:37:51
Am very surprised that PR has not been picked up any chance we might be in the market for PR ED?

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{Ed007's Note - I worry about you.}

10 Aug 2018 10:53:41
So can’t we buy or Loan English players? I thought that was what we were holding out for?

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{Ed007's Note - Read it again.}

09 Aug 2018 19:12:15
Paddy Roberts stuck man City reserves no prem football for him.

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10 Aug 2018 08:11:31
I'd be very surprised if we didn't atleast try to get a deal done now Marco. Regardless of how Forrest is playing a fully fit on form PR walks into our team.

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09 Aug 2018 19:07:43
IF (key word) there is a problem between BR and PL over transfers then I think BR has played a blinder with his comment that it's a private matter. He could have thrown PL under the bus but instead has firmly knocked the ball into his court to do some proper business and satisfy the manager and fans. He knows he has the support on side so by keeping his composure and class today he keeps our gaze firmly on PL to deliver.

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09 Aug 2018 19:22:28
Kev that presser Brendan done today was a bit worrying basically saying we might not spend much dosh this window and europa leagues our level. thought he looked pissed off to be honest.

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09 Aug 2018 19:58:05
Exactly! He said he wants the very best for our club and it’s supporters and his refusal to answer that particular question left no ambiguity over who needs to step up and make that happen. He’s put the spotlight on PL and now he knows the fans will be gunning for him if he doesn’t deliver what our Double Treble winning manager wants. We’ve bought our tickets, strips etc. we’ done our part and we want our manager backed!

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09 Aug 2018 21:22:28
Surely it is no surprise that the europa is our level? To think we can match anything in the corrupt champions league is clutching at best, with the money kicking about now it's impossible for us to compete being from the small, ignored nation that we are from.

Would much rather compete in the europa and progress than be horsed time and again in the so called champions league.

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09 Aug 2018 23:06:17
Being saying this for a few seasons now Gerry. Go back to say Strachans time, we could compete at CL level because the wealth was shared out more equally, you still had teams that could spend more than others but not to the extent you get now. Nowadays you get the super powers from the 4 cash laden leagues in Europe stock piling talent they've bought from teams all over the rest of Europe weakening them in the process . Read somewhere that Chelsea and Man city had over 100 players out on loan. The 6 teams that qualify for the CL nowadays are like lambs to the slaughter and It's a case of if you want your 30 million be prepared to be humiliated first.

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10 Aug 2018 02:09:14
Europa league is our level, but we should be reaching the CL groups no problem. We have some of the strongest finances in the entire qualification phase vs the teams we can face.

but we should at least be a Europa quarter final regular tbh.

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09 Aug 2018 18:53:16
OK guys hope you are following my Sevco tips, in profit so far.
Penalty 3/ 1
Ordering off 3/ 1
Morelos booking 11/ 4 (lump on "raging bull")

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09 Aug 2018 18:30:56
Well here we are guys its official we are in a major slump, what happened u might ask?
Well nothing really oh and we happened to draw a match, goodness me.
Now our manager will go, our transfer policy is a disgrace, we have no youngsters coming thro, biscuit tin mentality is back, defense is a shambles, it goes on and on.
FFS get a grip guys the standards are so high now that a draw is seen as a disaster, as well as not signing anyone that the fans want.
Listen guys in all our unbroken history we have NEVER signed anyone cos it was what the fans wanted.
As soon as the papers put a name up its a case of "sign him sign him" now we know 90% of the names are just made up so chill guys.

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09 Aug 2018 19:00:25
Nice to see some realism instead of knee jerk reactions.

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09 Aug 2018 19:16:22
In the cold light of day, it has to be said that after the invincible season, followed by the double treble, we have never had it so good for many, many years and unfortunately with the fantastic success, comes even more expectation and high hopes.
This was always going to be our toughest opening to a season for ages, with guys away at the WC, four CL qualifiers - starting on July 10th! - and once again, the early season 'injury curse of the Celtic strikers' has raised it's ugly head.
The lack of quality signings was always going to be raised, as BR himself, repeatedly stated we were 'light' on last seasons squad and it has always been his plan to keep improving the team; However, we know that historically, we do our business at the close of these goddam windows and there is still time to add quality - and more importantly don't lose any of our stars tonight
The result last night was a set-back and our away record is not the best, but if we can eliminate errors and repeat the desire and form of the Anderlecht away game - who knows?

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09 Aug 2018 20:49:29
Rayman, it’s not because it was a draw, but probably a mixture of both.
We’ve no given right to win a game, we should have last night but we didn’t and most will take that, nothing to fear in the away leg but again it’ll be tough.
The other part, and it’s expected by a lot of the support but thought things might have changed, is the way the board dealt with Mcginn, he’s no world beater but he was a total snip and the best player outside our team in Scotland.
It’s not because the papers linked him with us but RODGERS wanted him, our manager that’s turned the team round from the mince that we watched with much the same team barring a few signings over 2 seasons!
Mega assets, that will be sold btw lol but that’s ok?
It’s not even pushing the boat out, £3mil max is a total snip!
And anyone that wants to use Edouard as an excuse. we still broke even, still in the black on that deal or it would never have happened either.

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09 Aug 2018 18:07:22
We appear to be creeping closer and closer to the nightmare scenario of losing Celtic's most successful manager in history. We had it all: our traditional nearest rivals trailing in our wake; domestic trophy stacked upon trophy, the envy of all in Scottish football. How does our board react to this? Do they reward this unprecedented level of success by backing the manager in his quest to strengthen the clubs playing resources while we are in a period of asendency? Sickeningly no - instead they publicly embarrass the manager by refusing to allow him to invest the money he has been largely responsible for generating into increasing the standard of the player pool. If this gargantuan piece of mis-management results in the manager walking away the current board should be subject to a walk of shame To rival Game of Thrones.

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09 Aug 2018 18:14:48
Most successful manager in history. Don't think so buddy.

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09 Aug 2018 18:20:00
Settle petal still 3 weeks of transfer window to go we only need a few quality additions where as the persons needed a mass cull? Why because Sevco have never finished above third in the league. ever! We have just won back to back trebles a first in Scotland. So our window really open now as a lot of clubs down south now stuck with players they won’t be able to use? So let’s cut out the panty wetting till the start of September. Big wow we missed mcginn does he get in ahead of Brown Ntcham Rogic McGregor . no he doesn’t so as a squad goes there are still plenty out there 🙂🏆⚽️🍀.

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09 Aug 2018 18:21:30
So we break out transfer record by buying Edouard and you are claiming we have not backed Rodgers.

Also remember there are 3 weeks left in the transfer window and plenty of time to get some new faces in.

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09 Aug 2018 18:23:35
Agreed Tmbhouy sadly.

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09 Aug 2018 18:34:29
Strong words Tmbhouy, maybe you, Magicpole and Johnnymac should go out for a pint sometime and discuss how you're going to sort out this shambolic football club we've got.

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09 Aug 2018 18:43:39
With a few boots up the arse thrown in.

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09 Aug 2018 18:50:14
😂😂😂 Stevie.

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09 Aug 2018 22:14:37
Stopped reading after "most successful manager".

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10 Aug 2018 22:31:02
Most successful manager in history, even a youngish man like myself have lived through two who have been more successful.

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09 Aug 2018 17:17:01
Did Patrick Roberts sign for huddersfield or wa?

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09 Aug 2018 17:30:03
Loan for a year.

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09 Aug 2018 17:30:31
No they signed a winger from Montpellier.

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09 Aug 2018 17:35:57
MP u really are the profit of doom lol.

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09 Aug 2018 17:36:29
Did they sign Paddy MP? didn't see that. Sly just said 10 deals being worked on and they have until 7pm to get the paperwork done.

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09 Aug 2018 17:40:28
No he never signed. Three options the way I look at it. Come back to Paradise. Rot in the city reserves or wait on a possible move to a European team (highly unlikely) . 🙏🏻🤞🏼🙏🏻🤞🏼.

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09 Aug 2018 17:44:29
Cheers Ice Man.

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09 Aug 2018 17:52:40
I got sent a message saying he was going to the udders.

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09 Aug 2018 17:52:57
Ice man sure he can drop down league in England on loan tae.

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09 Aug 2018 18:09:40
Magicpole you do my nut right in with your posts, don’t post much myself but Jesus you don’t half talk jobbies man. Give your fingers a rest plz.

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09 Aug 2018 18:58:10
But do we still want him? I hooecercdo but I have s feeling the fee might frighten Peter Rabbit.

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09 Aug 2018 16:21:36
Just listening to Sam Allerdyce on sly taking about the amount of signings Everton have made and the amount of surplus players they will have, does anybody think that we would be back in for James McCarthy? I also liked the look of Mohamed Besic,6 million maybe a great price.

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09 Aug 2018 16:33:47
Would take McCarthy in a heartbeat Malika, would make up for losing McGinn. He's back training and looking fit.

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09 Aug 2018 16:36:54
James McCarthy spends more time on the treatment table than on the pitch.

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09 Aug 2018 16:52:28
Why does anybody think we are going to match any EP. Players wages when Lawell baulked at £750k for a player who will move for upwards of £15m in a year?

Delusional. Even Championship play.

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09 Aug 2018 17:01:20
Much the same as Dembele and Griffiths Kev.

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09 Aug 2018 17:06:52
So we should sign another Stan?

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09 Aug 2018 17:07:46
15 million in a year?
Please tell me you ain't talking about squad player Mcginn? 😂😂😂😂.

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09 Aug 2018 17:13:55
No wonder your laughing Kev

McCarthy can stay in the physio room at Everton and McGinn will be a championship player for his whole Villa contract.

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09 Aug 2018 17:17:03
Yes, I'd take him no problem at all. Injuries happen it's part of the game, happens in all sports. His latest was a break he can't be blamed for that it's not like a recurring injury like Dembele and Griffiths seem to have.

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09 Aug 2018 17:26:00
How many multi-million pound players on EPL wages did the AEK Athens team that held us to a draw at home in their first competitive game of the season have last night?

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09 Aug 2018 17:38:09
Would take McCarthy any day of the week. Fantastic player. Agree with Stan would make up for losing McGinn. I think MCarthy is the better player but McGinn has youth on his side. I hear what you’re saying Kev regarding his injuries however his last one was an unlucky leg break making a fantastic last ditch tackle. Could have happened to any of player. Still only 27 years old. Interesting how Brendan mentioned last week how the English window closing early could benefit Celtic. So come on Peter go out and get McCarthy and while you’re at it bring Paddy home, you’ve got some making up to do!

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09 Aug 2018 17:42:42
Stan it's one thing for injures to happen but it's another to go out and sign a player that has spent
630 days injured and missed 80 games since 2011.
He's injury prone and what use is that?

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09 Aug 2018 17:43:29
Kev, I don’t think Brendan Rodgers agrees with you regarding (quote) ‘squad player’John McGinn and neither do I. A major blow for me that undoubtedly put a downer on the team before last nights game which has left the manager potentially a tad dissalusioned and as I said last night the only player to bullly Broonie last season my friend.

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09 Aug 2018 17:48:15
New manager needed then jfp.?

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09 Aug 2018 17:52:37
BR rates him and clearly O'Neill does too. That's good enough for me he would stroll the SPL. Everton have spent a fortune today whos to say we can't get him on loan with a view to buy?

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09 Aug 2018 18:21:29
Unfortunately DRB while it breaks my heart I think yes a new manager will be required at potentially one of our most successful times in our history and the board should hang their head in shame as in my view it would take much for a man who knows very much what we’re all about to walk away. Sad day.

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09 Aug 2018 19:00:27
I would buy the whole AEK defence on last nights showing.

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09 Aug 2018 18:22:10
Ed genuine question here are you aware if Brendan or any of his staff follow the site just so they know who we would like signed? 😂😂.

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{Ed007's Note - If they did read the site we'd win every game 5-0 lol

09 Aug 2018 19:20:03
Jfp if we have a full squad to pick from then NO WAY would Mcginn make the starting line up.
Who would you drop for him?
Brown or ntcham geez peace.

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09 Aug 2018 19:45:11
Kev what age is Brown and what age is McGinn. Listen to BRs interview and try to remain open to the possibility you might not always be right. Yir geeing me a sare heid and I’m up early so off to ma kip. Goodnight and God Bless. ☘️.

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09 Aug 2018 22:29:08
Talk of Brendan going is a bit premature, but if he does, we have to replace him with Steve Clarke of Kilmarnock. This man knows how to build a solid defence with limited funds, which is the situation we are in now.
Celtic have to get Boyata signed up now, or he goes for a song
at Christmas. £9 million down the swanee after turning down Fulham.

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10 Aug 2018 22:32:07
I, too would take MaCarthy but only if there was no other midfielder available now or for 5 yrs . The man was good at Hamilton but his career is all down hill since then.

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09 Aug 2018 14:39:53
The money that sh*te players are moving for down south for is mental.
Spurs bid 25 million for a championship player
Waghorn moving for 5-6 million
It's nuts.

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09 Aug 2018 15:26:27
SaggyWaggy went for £3m.

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09 Aug 2018 15:38:23
SaggyWaggy went for 5.

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09 Aug 2018 16:25:29
Kev, Filip Benkovic who we have been heavily linked with in the past 2 windows has just gone to Leicester for 13.5 million, we need a CB but that kind of money and the salary that goes along with it just blows us out of the water.

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09 Aug 2018 16:30:23
That sounds like a Wham song lads 😂.

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09 Aug 2018 16:40:08
Exactly mal.
All the moaning on here but none of us know how hard it is to get a signing over the line.
Crap players are going for big money
People keep mentioning Schar like we would have been able to go toe to toe with Newcastle.
No chance the blow us out the water with the wages they can offer.

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09 Aug 2018 17:16:28
I miss Waggy, always had good fun asking for a feel of his tits when he was warming up in front of me.

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09 Aug 2018 17:23:51
Then let’s just give up signing players then-it’s impossible for Celtic to sign a decent centre half these days.

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09 Aug 2018 13:10:09
Short memories bhoys. - praising the team one week for attacking football then criticism when we don't score. Finding a pass with 10 men behind the ball is not easy from a man who played football all his life.

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09 Aug 2018 13:49:27
So we created loads of chances last night you've got to earn praise and last night was pretty poor that's the reality.

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09 Aug 2018 14:19:08
That is true Mally but some people going way over the top on this one.
It's pure howling at the moon on here yesterday and today.

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09 Aug 2018 14:41:02
Playing football in a local league on a Sunday doesn’t count bel (end) bhoy.

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09 Aug 2018 14:41:43
Our possession play was ok but there was no cutting edge that's my point that's just the way a saw it if they play well they'll get praised.

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09 Aug 2018 15:30:14
We need someone who can dribble well to breakdown that kind of defence. We don’t have that. Hopefully we will get someone like that before the window shuts. I’m sure there was a few players identified by Rogers. Just s mater of time.

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09 Aug 2018 15:59:16
For me MP, that player is Paddy Roberts. First thing saturday morning we should be making the call if he hasn't gone elsewhere. We just can't rely on Forrest anymore. The only worry is he's probably had no preseason like last year.

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09 Aug 2018 16:42:21
Here's a thing both Forrest and Tierney got the ball across the face of the goal a good few times but no one gambled on it happening.
None of our strikers are predators in the mold of Skippy or Hooper.

All 3 drop out the box to gather the ball.

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09 Aug 2018 19:43:39
Jim I agree. Was gutted today when I got that bum steer about him going to Huddersfield. Would love to see the wee man back.

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10 Aug 2018 23:46:30
If you think we played poor last game then you know nothing about football.

We dominated possession, created chances and limited their chances.

The scoreline does not reflect the game at all.

Granted I am disappointed with the result and think we have made the away trip hard for ourselves but I cannot fault the players or the manager for last night's performance.

68% possession and 12 shots + 8 shots blocked. They had 32% possession and 5 shots + 1 shot blocked. We had 75 attacks, 59 of which were dangerous ones.

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10 Aug 2018 22:33:43
Yes, we conceded a soft goal from one of the few times they got ball into our box but although we scored a good goal, we couldn't breach their 8/ 9 men defence to give us a decent lead for next week .
Goal scoring is our main problem and not defending .
If we are lucky enough to score first on Tuesday and hold on to it for 20 mins, I think they will panic.

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09 Aug 2018 13:02:52
Very disappointed we lost out with McGinn whatever the reason. Looks like another transfer window filled with hope and ultimate disappointment. Yes I know we bought Edouard, great player etc. but, well you all know the rest, we faff about every year and take forever with signings while other clubs seem to be able to get the business done quickly. HH.

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09 Aug 2018 14:27:22
Pardon me but I thought we still had another 3 weeks of the window to go.

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09 Aug 2018 14:33:39
You're right RAW, will we still be in the Champions League or the play offs in 3 weeks?

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09 Aug 2018 14:48:05
Who knows but there would have been no guarantee we would have been even if we had signed more players, so it is a moot point.

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09 Aug 2018 15:25:03
Of course there are no guarantees but if we had brought in decent players it would have increased our chances. That's common sense. We're on the back foot now going to Athens. That's a fact. We could be out of it next week. That's reality. HH.

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09 Aug 2018 17:17:59
McGinn would not have helped us as he would not even have got a game.

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09 Aug 2018 18:07:34
Our CB position is not good its not been good for a number of years yes we have CBs but how many of them are of good quality? As in experience at a good level most are of WIP we have been screaming out for an experienced CB IMO each window none are delivered IF we can't sort out our back how can we progress forward? AND YES the Quality we have for this league is more than good enough but Europe is a different level.

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09 Aug 2018 11:26:22
Come on bhoys - I'm shocked by last nights reaction. We had 73% possession last night which doesn't make us a bad team. We had an off night against a well organised team but we will be better in the next game. They had all the luck. I'm confident, despite previous managers away woes, we will get the required result to progress. Hail hail.

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09 Aug 2018 11:50:34
Possession doesn’t win games mate. We had nothing in the final 3rd.

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09 Aug 2018 12:03:46
Have to agree with you there Campsie Bhoy. It's all well and good saying we had 73% possession but how many shot or clear chances did we Have? They had 10 men from the 57min on. We lacked the quality to break them down.

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09 Aug 2018 12:08:18
Come on guys, hold your nerve.
Patience, after the English deadline shuts today, there will be other possibilities when certain squads will be too big and need to off load.

Faith in Brendan and faith in the club.

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09 Aug 2018 12:24:31
No use to us if we have been pumped out! We will be looking to sell. We should be looking to strengthen every window. We really need to have a look at MD and his hamstring problems this is when we need him most for the qualifiers and he’s been out for them more than once. Big few weeks for us but if BR doesn’t get backed he won’t stick about.

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09 Aug 2018 12:54:01
Don't think faith in Brendan is the problem. It's the club not buying his targets, instead taking in players he did not identify. That is my worry. Again, PL needs to back off and let BR do his job properly.

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09 Aug 2018 13:22:23
Absolutely Stan. I thought when BR came in and we showed Park the door we might be turning a corner but there are tell tale signs we are reverting to old ways. I'll still only assess the window at the end as I feel that's when we'll see the most action. Our model, and the glass ceiling we face means we'll be picking up and developing players like Ntcham once the big boys have done their deals.

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09 Aug 2018 13:25:55
Ajer has been immense for us but I don't agree with playing him alongside Hendry in our most important game of the season. Any reason why Jozo didn't play? Surely needed a bit of experience in there alongside either Ajer or Hendry not both play both together. Should've had another CB in before the tie. Would've bitten the hand off for Schar at £3m. a steal in today's market. If we get knocked out what "quality" players will want to join us now. The board have gambled yet again when it's been clear defence has been our Achilles heel yet we're risking qualification sticking with it fully knowing we had players at the world cup who would be unavailable for the qualifiers and the possibility of a plastic pitch in qualifiers making Jozo unavailable too.

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09 Aug 2018 13:33:28
I'm sickened by the McGinn situation JT, that along with the deals being done that are clearly not Brendans. I still think there's decent deals to be done though but if they are PLs and not BRs he won't be here for 10 that's for sure. PL needs to trust BR and back him, we weren't actually that bad last night just weren't as clinical as we have been recently so it ain't like we need major surgery. As BR said the bare minimum we should be doing is replacing all the players who have left.

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09 Aug 2018 14:27:35
Bravetart86 schar is getting around 50 grand a week even though he cost 3 million
Jozo ain't any better than Hendry or ajer. He's a bomb scare. What good did his experience do us when he got sent off in the first round?

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09 Aug 2018 14:32:32
AEK Athense let in 12 goals in 30 games in their league last year and their league is better than ours.

This shows how hard it is to break them down.

People who expected us to pump them last night had unrealistic expectations and this probably explains the over reaction to the result.

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09 Aug 2018 15:37:31
I won't lose any sleep over the player McGinn, Stan. He was always a squad player for me. Something he apparently isn't willing to be. I thought he would be, and was an ideal candidate but fair play to him if it's not what he wants. What annoys me, like yourself, is that whilst I don't know the ins and outs of negotiations with Hibs, we seem to have dawdled down a dead end (we have to start the process of getting a CM again now) with an affordable target the manager wants whilst signing a player he isn't familiar with. Smells like Park all over again. It doesn't mean everything, but our net spend at the close of play better be more than it is the now.

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09 Aug 2018 16:39:42
If we get through in Athens next week do you think the board will say we were fortunate to get through so we had better buy some quality or will they simply say, see what was the problem and carry on? Yes they will just carry on. And even if they did buy in a couple of quality players they would be little use to us for 3 to 4 weeks till they get used to how we play. We have watched whilst Rangers strengthened when we should be putting them and all other SPL teams to the sword. To those that say Sevco are no threat, well maybe they are the same people who were on here a week ago telling us that we were superior to AEKand they were no threat either and shouting anyone down who dared to question their great knowledge of football. We had better get our act together for Hearts and next Wednesday. The players need to step up a level. Yes we should have supported BR better but the existing team need to be better as a unit if we are to continue in CL and dominate the SPL.

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09 Aug 2018 18:37:10
Didn't they only score 50 goals or something too? Not going to blow us away but we could do without conceding silly soft goals away. If we grab the first goal then that could rattle them. We are the more experienced team for qualifying so we should be taking advantage of that.

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10 Aug 2018 22:34:54
Young McGinn isn't the first member of the McGinn dynasty to split and divide Celtic fans . John is a winner alright, I am sure Aston Villa offered him at least £5 K a week more than they intended to blow Celtic out of the water .
McGinn may be a lot richer playing Championship and possibly Div 1 football than getting opportunities to play in Europe every year if he made our first team.

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09 Aug 2018 11:01:44
If we had brought in a better CB in time for last night's game, or picked Jozo, they would have been pitched in alongside Ajer. The goal was Ajer's mistake so there's no reason to think last night's result would have been any better if we had brought in somebody like Denayer.

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09 Aug 2018 11:14:06
Ajer had the worse game I have ever seen him have last night.

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09 Aug 2018 11:23:23
I'm not going to have a go at either of our young CBs as they have been thrown in together at this level. Regardless of how you feel about him as a person what we needed last night or at this level in general is someone like John Terry. We need to balance this squad with 'projects' and experience imo.

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09 Aug 2018 11:23:32
I agree Kev. I'm all for fans venting their frustrations at a lack of signings etc but Ajer has been rock solid for us for a while now and just had one of those nightmare moments. It's not simply the case that we wouldn't have lost an away goal because if we had a new CB.

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09 Aug 2018 11:40:46
Ajer had a poor game but this OP is so ridiculous tbh. How could you even say that? Ajer for starters plays on the left side, last night he played on the right in which the goal came from.

Also Hendry got dragged towards Ajer and when the ball dropped to the left he was out of position.

Ajer is a young guy and needs experience in there as well.

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09 Aug 2018 11:48:15
I think lustig could have done better to get the ball out before he knocked it into the box and put Ajar under pressure. These things happen.

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09 Aug 2018 12:11:30
The worry for me is that as soon as our CB come up against a physical big C. F. they get roasted. Yes the two young lads were poor but l do like ajer and agree he had a poor game. But while these lads and most of the team get belters, l have to say l place huge blame on two people. That is Lawell and Congerton. What have they done to help solve the CB and defence problems of the last two years. Simple answer fxxk All!

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09 Aug 2018 12:13:35
I really don't think ajer will play that bad again this season. He is a good player. He got ruffled up by the attacker last night but he will learn from that.
He wasn't the only one at fault for the goal and he wasn't the only player that had a bad night
People seem to be focusing on the defence last night when the real problem was the attack.

Rogic was like the invisible man and seems to have got off scot free with the fans
French eddy had a nightmare
Brown was below par tae
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09 Aug 2018 12:15:15
@Tesla369 - Ajer left the ball and it went straight to their player. You can say what you like about Hendry or positions but if Ajer clears that ball, they don't score.

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09 Aug 2018 16:47:52
Well said Kev83. Yes the defence was poor but l agree with u regards other players. No cutting edge or killer pass. Like u l thought eddy struggled, rogic seems to go missing at times when teams are physical on him and l thought Brown has a shocker and lustig offered nothing going forward and struggled in defence. I just hope they can manage to turn this around and hope to see a positive reaction at the weekend.

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09 Aug 2018 17:33:58
You are putting too much emphasis on the defence losing a goal, the real problem wasn't the defence, it was the lack of creativity in midfield and cutting edge in attack, Moussa was missed, will he be ready for the return?, and pointless to say it now, but if McGinn had been bought, I would have played him, I know Rogic had a lot of fans on here, but the midfield needs more than he has to offer.

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10 Aug 2018 02:11:18
nah aindoh. End of the day we were 1-0 up against a team sitting parking the bus.

Very rarely attacking and lost to a defensive error, which is so predictable by us.

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09 Aug 2018 10:54:45
I've been unable to post or comment for some time due to personal issues but what I love about our page is that it encourages debate, opinion and even some rationality from the majority. Yes there's the odd belter who breaks that mould but Ed007 you facilitate things brilliantly.

I think there is an overreaction to our transfer dealings so far. I'll reserve judgement on anyone until the window closes and I'm still optimistic we will have the quality signings in place that BR wants.

Yes mcginn was a sore one but no one knows the true ins and outs regarding that other than celtic and hibs.


Time to rally and support the bhoys and get right behind them in every way. As Ed said previously the players we have should be good enough to qualify and should have that hunter and even fear not to lose their place to any potential new signing.

Keep up great work Ed.

COYBIG.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate and I hope everything in your life is good again.}

09 Aug 2018 10:06:47
Hearing Denayer has knocked us back yet again! This window is an absolute shambles by the way! going from last years treble to stumbling about looking for players on the cheap and making a complete arse of ourselves in the transfer market! If we go out next Tuesday we all know who the blame lies with. just ain’t bloody good enough!

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{Ed007's Note - If we go out I'll be blaming the players. AEK were no better than a well organised SPFL side who camp out in their own half and once again the players who are meant to create during the game failed miserably.
Rogic done another great Hawley Griffin impersonation before being hooked 5 mins after they went down to 10 men, isn't that when he should be thriving?}

09 Aug 2018 10:45:20
I’m with you on that Ed we can’t blame last night on Lawwell etc.

However I’ve just read Izzy saying he plans on signing a 2 year deal with us. Wtf? What an absolutely pointless signing. I’m usually patient in the transfer window because it’s us, however that’s just desperate.

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{Ed007's Note - It's baffling, there's no way in the world Rodgers asked for Izaguirre to be signed, this has Lawwell's fingerprints all over it. Does anyone really believe the best back up LB Congerton and the scouts could come up with was resigning Izaguirre?

09 Aug 2018 10:57:28
ED007 there are a lot of people to blame
Firstly the board, and Lawwell in particular, who have not backed Rodgers. Why wait until AV offer more than us to match it, McGinn deal should have been tied up a month ago. But in saying that it looks like McGinn did not believe in his own ability to earn a starting place, so cheerio.
Rodgers I felt all week concentrated on the transfer situation rather than our CL game, talk about those issues AFTER the game, he took his eye off the ball.
The players seemed to panic when we lost the away goal, and it seemed to unsettle them second half, instead of having the mental strength to overcome it.
The supporters are also to blame, we talk about our famous "Celtic Park atmosphere" but it can work against us also, as the fans also panicked when the Greeks scored and that nervousness affected the team.
Also we the fans are to blame for our perennial lack of transfer actvity each season, lawwell knows we are too immersed in our club to do anything negative, we still sell out the ground every second week, buy all the merchandise etc, Lawwell plays on us Celtic fans doing this.
Finally, I think a lot of fans, on here also, were too complacent and ready to dismiss AEK, they should have been a seeded side and NOT met us. I heard Celtic fans say "they don't travel well" "they have not played a competitive game" Celtic DO NOT travel well either, Athens will be very hard now with a 70,000crowd and 90% heat, sadly I feel we are OUT. last night was our opportunity to take advantage of their lack of games and we blew it big time.

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{Ed007's Note - Peter Lawwell wasn't out there last night constantly passing the ball sideways in front of the AEK defence, we should have had enough to beat a very poor Greek side who has 2 shots on target in 90 mins. The players let themselves and the fans down last night, there is no cutting edge in our team that can break down well organised stubborn defences, we even seen it domestically last season.}

09 Aug 2018 11:00:02
Aww come on Ed, you are absolutely at it. AEK another SPL side? Greek champions?

on level with PAOK who are beating sides like Basle and Spartak Moscow last night.

SPL level lol, you are having a laugh. Aye, their style is to defend.

I remember playing AC Milan and Juventus and getting plenty of possession, people thought we were doing well and then bang, goal.

You are mixing up playing style with ability.

and people still refusing to recognise the absolute failure of the board.

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{Ed007's Note - They had 2 shots on target - one more than Livingston.}

09 Aug 2018 11:12:17
Do you reckon Rodgers actually wants a back up LB? I just feel it’s a waste of wages when we know KT will be first choice. Rodgers has shown he doesn’t mind playing players in unnatural positions (McGregor has played LB for us for example) . We also have Calvin miller or Hayes who could do as good a job as a 32 year old izzaguire.

I’m hoping after the window shuts down south we see some movement but I’m not confident.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think Rodgers would see a back-up LB as a priority, unless Hayes is moving on and there is also talk of Calvin Miller going out on loan.}

09 Aug 2018 11:21:01
AndyH93 what happens if Tierney snaps his leg again? Would you be happy to play Hayes or Miller week in week out?
Ed you've said on several occasions that you dislike Miller at left back.

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{Ed007's Note - But obviously the manager sees Miller as a LB, Kev.
So if we qualify for the CL and KT snaps his leg would you be happy to play Izaguirre against a PSG or a Barca?}

09 Aug 2018 11:21:31
Ed bang on rogic disappeared last night when we needed him pass marks for m. e were Tierney broony ntcham Forrest callum the rest pants and Gordon had nothing to do if that was psg or a Barcelona my god we would get murdered.

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{Ed007's Note - Rogic disappears all the time but as long as he scores against TRIFC everything's fine and we've to forget that he offers nothing in a very high percentage of games.}

09 Aug 2018 11:18:32
Agree with u ED about the lack of cutting edge, but the powers at be haven’t replaced Armstrong or paddy that could have provided cutting edge! And again going into a vital match like that with a below par back line once again cost us! Lustig is done at RB and that centre half with a bit of leadership and quality hasn’t been brought in, and the scary thing is they don’t even look like theyr looking for these players! Just feel after all the confidence coming off the back of the last 2 seasons that somethings not quite rite. and listening to Rodgers talk over the past few days confirms that! Denayer Izaguirre some young lad who’s been playing in Australia and the old paddy Roberts stories! It’s not nearly bloody good enough!

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{Ed007's Note - We gave Rogic a bumper new deal, James Forrest is - according to some - better than Roberts and Sinclair are there to provide the cutting edge and create chances for the strikers while pitching in with their fair share of goals, they don't do it consistently enough and the same faults as last season are already there to see for this season, until we improve the AM department we're going to struggle to break down teams that are defensively well drilled, both domestically and in Europe.}

09 Aug 2018 11:43:46
Last night was our chance to go through especially playing against 10 men for 30 mins. You say they had 2 rubbishs on target which is true but how many did we have? Apart from the goal and one Ntcham shot straight at the keeper I can’t remember us doing much else.

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09 Aug 2018 11:49:56
I would be happier going in with Izzy than with Miller or Hayes ed.

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{Ed007's Note - Izaguirre from 5/6 years ago or a 32-year old Izaguirre?}

09 Aug 2018 11:52:38
Ed think most of us agree, so why has the Board not rectified the issue with some signings.

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{Ed007's Note - Just to annoy you, Johnny.}

09 Aug 2018 12:18:46
That team were bang average but our Achilles heel the defence as per why do we never strengthen from a position of strength . baffling.

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09 Aug 2018 12:25:37
Our attack was worse than our defence Mally. Our Achilles heel last night was not making enough chances.
We had 73% of the possession and half hour against 10 men and done nothing with it.

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09 Aug 2018 12:37:33
True kev but clean sheets are crucial in these ties.

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09 Aug 2018 13:30:15
Totally agree Ed. It won't be popular but Rogic doesn't dictate and influence games the way some make out. Forrest is still Forrest. When they went down to 10 and sat back - that's where Rogic should be coming alive; not getting hooked. Is he best coming on as an impact and us starting with CalMac down the middle?

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{Ed007's Note - I'd definitely start with McGregor playing through the middle.}

09 Aug 2018 13:46:11
So is scoring goals. The defence wasn't as bad as people are making out. Ye we lost a sloppy goal but other than that there was very little for Craig Gordon to do.

It seems in fashion to have a pop at the defence at moment bit there were much worse performing players in the midfield and attack last night.

Rogic was worse player on the pitch and no one is going daft about him because he's the golden bhoy to a lot of fans.

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09 Aug 2018 15:09:00
Sorry ed just noticed your reply about whether I'd be happy with a 32 year old Izzy over Hayes and Miller.
Still a yes. Hayes is less than a year younger and none of them are left backs.

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10 Aug 2018 22:35:20
Maybe the problem is that like when RD was in charge, PL iis frustrated at the lack of targets that BR is coming up with, eg Left back and so to pull the club out of a fix Peter thinks he has to go on a solo run and come up with a target ie Izzy.

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09 Aug 2018 10:02:55
Talk about overreaction, jeezo we have just drawn a game of football, we don't have a god given right to be in the CL when there is probably 100 odd teams and 6 places up for grabs. It was always going to be a huge ask going through 4 qualifiers and guess what we're not even out yet. Worst case scenario we drop to final Europa qualifier which might be a blessing as though it pains to say it, that is our level. Reaching the CL and getting the inevitable hammerings off the TV cash laden super powers is losing It's appeal. The ones that are whining about last night's result and possibly not making CL are the same ones that will whine even louder if we make CL and take the inevitable hammerings off the super powers. Roll on Saturday and put the wee people in their place then see what Tuesday brings. COYBIG.

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09 Aug 2018 11:00:08
100% mate. With McGinn we have missed out on a squad player, the fact that our threadbare defence barely provides a viable back 3 for next week is more a concern. I think we will struggle next week but it is far from out of the question for us to make it through. Also if we don’t, you are right, it is neither an entitlement nor the essential lifeline it is claimed to be. Sure, a load of cash but the club seems to be sitting on that already. Good few weeks of window left, sitting on money and saleable assets and still
I’m all competitions.

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09 Aug 2018 10:00:15
I never thought I would be reading so much negativity and pessimism at this early point in the season.

Granted: I wanted McGinn to sign. He didn't, for a plethora of reasons, with the Club at fault. Will we sign quality to replace Armstrong? I have no doubt. will it hurt the purse-strings. likely.

Granted: Do we have a Young defence with players still getting up to speed early in the season? Yes. Should we have strengthened / moved on players? Yes. Could that still happen? Possibly.

Granted: 1-1 at home to AEK (down to 10 men) isn't the best result we had hoped for. Where were we lat year v Rosenborg at home? 0-0. Did we score there and qualify? CAN we still qualify? YES.

There are clear frustrations with performances, personnel and possible ramifications of possible exit from CL football, but not so long ago remember WHY its so good to be a Celt right now.

BR's Legacy won't be failure or walking away. And KT is here for as long as we want him, or until he reaches his potential to play for the likes of Barça which is a few years yet.

Keep the faith, in BR and the players we trust.

PS - Hon the Maribor!

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09 Aug 2018 09:17:49
Ed. You have been pretty quiet. what's your take on the transfer scenarios. Like you i have always remained optimistic but I'm begining to have my doubts. And in that, like many, my biggest concern now is how BR is feeling.

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{Ed007's Note - I'll wait and see what happens between now and the end of the month but signings like Izaguirre and Arzani aren't going to cut it.
Rodgers will be disappointed and frustrated but as usual it's been blown well out of proprtion by people, including some morons in our support, who thrive on anything negative about Celtic.}

09 Aug 2018 10:36:18
Not seen any of Arzani but hopefully same type of player Roberts is, that type of attacking player was badly missed last night in the second half.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see him as a first-team signing and I'd imagine Arzani will go into the development squad. If you listen to Warren Joyce talk about him he is a long way off being the player he could be or even being ready to play for us. According to Joyc, Arzani has picked up "bad habits" and "(Arzani) has got a lot of things he's got to improve on". He's also got a reputation for going to ground too easily.
He struggled to complete 90 mins in the A-League and his physique will need worked on before he can handle playing in the SPFL.
The way Rodgers spoke I don't think he sees Arzani in the first team squad either.}

09 Aug 2018 10:47:11
Ed as usual a very calm and balanced view. Wish more on this site like that.
Though I think Izzy (Who I was never a major fan of) is a smart signing.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not impressed with the Izaguirre signing at all, he was on a downward slide when he left and I dread to think what level he's at now.}

09 Aug 2018 11:04:28
Sorry ed got to disagree here I've watched arzani and he looks a fine player to me also his build I see is fine tbh with you we need more players who go tongroujd easy let me say Europe is full of them it's the norm ed and referees exapect it so the good clever players go tonground easily free kicks just outside the box ect and then boom GOAL one man who was great at it and a great player for us too was Stan petrov made his runs as soon as there was contact he used it to his teams advantage so again on arzani I hope he does get the chance to play in our first team and I think I might just be right on this bhoy.

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{Ed007's Note - Id rather listen to his manager at Melbourne City but thanks for the input.}

09 Aug 2018 11:06:49
As a cover I can't really see a down side ed.
How many would be willing to come knowing 9 times out 10 they ain't going to play?

We know he'd walk in to any side other than ours so in SPFL he will do a job.
He will also settle quick.

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{Ed007's Note - Scott Bain was happy to sign knowing he wouldn't be first choice, so was Hendry and neither of them are 32. How do you know Izaguirre would walk into any other SPFL team, when did you last watch him play?
And considering what he said when Hibs tried to sign him I'm guessing he didn't have as many options on the table as he expected.}

09 Aug 2018 11:43:13
Cheers for the input Ed, I’ve never seen him play and hadn’t read up on the boy either but doesn’t sound promising.

We badly need someone like Patrick Roberts, like we witnessed last night, there was no imagination at all, he would’ve thrived on that. Would love to have him back.

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{Ed007's Note - Arzani is nothing more than another project.}

09 Aug 2018 11:46:38
Ed with the comments regarding Arzani, feel like we have been here before very recently with Musonda!

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{Ed007's Note - The difference is that Rodgers wanted Musonda.}

09 Aug 2018 11:57:52
Agreed, looks like a baby lawwell daddy Lawwell deal.

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{Ed007's Note - City contacted Celtic about taking Arzani.}

09 Aug 2018 12:13:03
Hopefully they will do the same with Paddy at 5pm.

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09 Aug 2018 08:14:25
Lustig got caught by the guys pace and let's him hook a ball in to the box. Ajer, who might have had his weight on the other foot to be fair,
lets it go. The runner moves off his man and is unmarked. Fine lines.

I thought we played okay, we flashed how many across the six yard line, and were pretty disciplined for the most part. But this is getting tedious, it's like the same European movie.

Optimistic noise being made but we are out. We do not have a defence who can defend a tie like this, there is no history of it.

Oh and by the way this will be KT's last season.

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09 Aug 2018 08:42:19
KT's last season? Think you might be right. Think Brendan will be off as well, maybe before the end of the season.

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09 Aug 2018 08:48:40
I think the positive is the boys know what hangs in the balance and that they’re really going to have to produce a good performance.

But yes with our awful away record I think it’s as good as over.

I still think Tierney will be here for a few more years. I know he can go on to bigger leagues with more money, but playing for Celtic is his dream and I don’t think he’ll give it up so easy.

Wouldn’t be shocked if it was Rodgers last season though.

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09 Aug 2018 09:03:52
Chances of us going through are slim - but there's still a chance?
We have a long history of costly defensive mistakes in European games but this was one lapse that seemed to knock the stuffing, confidence and imagination out of us.
Even when they went down to ten men, we couldn't take advantage and it's not the first time we have had most of the ball and passed from side to side only to see a misplaced pass or inaccurate cross and we rarely tested their goalkeeper with shots or set-pieces - I've been on here before about our failure to capitalize far too often from the vast amount we win in games.
If we do not progress? Yes, it could mean a big-name departure, but I would worry about our manager who after making first, the 'invincibles' then the untouchables domestically, has always advocated improvement and progress especially in Europe and it would seem he feels let down at this moment.
The Tyncastle game on Saturday could give the players a boost, or provide more doubt, depending on how the players react and there's no better place to shake off a disappointment and get back up on a Trojan Horse.

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09 Aug 2018 09:59:31
Our defence is always the weak link at euro level, lustig doesn't stop the cross and ajer is out of pos it's the poorest av seen the bhoy, but we have to put boyata in on Tues. Thought eddy was poor as well last night But possession play was good but didn't create much 2nd half.

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09 Aug 2018 07:46:20
Worse signing Celtic has made is Lee Congerton. Bigger wage thief than Borregtir.

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09 Aug 2018 08:01:37
I agree. What is this doing. Is sick Marvin one of his? For me he has added nothing to the squad.

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09 Aug 2018 08:44:13
I think he identified Odsonne to be fair.

However yeah it is almost like we seem a bit lost in the transfer market. But that could well be down to Lawwell.

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09 Aug 2018 11:02:56
blah blah blah, John Park got the same abuse despite finding us great players.

Nothing a scout can do when Lawwell won't sign anyone over £2 million.

btw before anyone starts about Edouards fee, we sold Armstrong and Sviatchenko to pay for it. Our net spend in last 2 years is about £0.

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09 Aug 2018 07:08:38
I know it may sound a bit over the top but I believe we could be approaching a tipping point with the club . We seem to have failed to improve from a position of strength once again, not only to the frustration of the fans but more worryingly to the manager. We are in a perilous position regarding the champions league and the revenue it brings . At the minute the new fancy led lights may be used against Hamilton, Kilmarnock etc. I appreciate we still have a few weeks til the transfer window but why let complacency creep in if we are prepared to buy the quality players needed to improve. On top of this we have “positive news spun from across the city as all the media outlets are having a love in with the new regime over there. I’m not saying they are a massive threat but where we could have signed two or three quality signings to put them in their place we have let them grab all the headlines. I appreciate most of their players wouldn’t get into our side but they have definitely improved enough that I don’t think they will drop loads of silly points to other teams, which in turn will make us having to be a lot more consistent as we dropped quite a few points last season. I also presume they have one big signing left in them for a forward position which could make a big difference to them. If we don’t take 3 points of the other **** at the weekend you could just imagine the papers saying we have had a bad week and cracks are starting to appear. Why would Lawwell and the rest of the board think that is good planning? This sitting on our hands counting our money, showing good financial reports isn’t going to cut any slack with the fans who want to see the best team possible on the pitch . Reading between the lines we probably paid a bit more for Odsonne than if we had purchased him last season, sometimes if we want a player we can’t always get him for the lowest price possible, if the manager wants someone, if it costs a million more than we value him unfortunately sometimes we have to pay it to get them in the door. Like I said earlier, this could be a big two weeks for us as a club. We may see how far the board want us to go.

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09 Aug 2018 07:25:55
I agree Quinn, fact is we are not as strong as everyone makes out. We are not as far ahead as everyone likes to think. We can barely bring in a player never mind beat AEK Athens who have 10 men for 35 minutes, haven’t played a competitive math and we are at home. That match had everything riding on it and it was clear our defence wasn’t good enough. Lustig, he is passed it and that is clear. Hendry, not enough experience at that level. Two positions that everyone has stated for months need strengthened and that is clear. No matter how many players in a certain position you have. There’s still a reason to bring better in.

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09 Aug 2018 08:05:34
Brendan has said clearly we aren’t as strong as we were last season so regardless of what every individual fan believes he’s the one watching these guys on a daily basis so if he’s saying that then that’s good enough for me. Where I do think Brendan might have a problem is we cannot keep stock piling players, we badly need to get bodies out the door, guys that have been with us for years now and clearly won’t make the team, Allan, Christie, kouassi, Hayes, comper etc then there’s guys the likes of hendry, jozo, lustig (who has been a great signing for us ) boyata who I believe could be improved on ( just my opinion) I mean boyata £9 million possibly more? I believe most fans would’ve bitten your hand off for half that last summer, I know Brendan rates him or so he keeps saying but my god you’d think he was the best central defender ever to grace the hoops. So far it’s been a very disappointing window for me, if we’re going to persist with the likes of ajer ( who I rate) and hendry etc then get someone in with experience at a good level to help bring these boys on. Sick of hearing about midfielder after midfielder, you’d think we didn’t need strengthened anywhere else on the park.

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09 Aug 2018 08:21:03
The only way toget experience is to play in these games but for me Hendry won’t be up to it he looked better against Rosenborg as they played a lot more high balls last night there striker turned him the same way every time. We have no penetration all the passing is predictable going to be a big task over there but it’s 1 that we CAN do. For me Eddy plays better in a 2. The next few games are going to be a character check for us so let’s get behind the team instead of all the negative tripe being spouted.

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09 Aug 2018 09:18:24
After getting to sleep on it. The performance for the team was pretty decent. Held the ball well moved about the park well, lacked the end product. But again moussa is our strongest forward and he's out again (something that needs to be looked at) . Midfield was pretty solid but again lacked a defence splitting pass. I said last night Roberts and Armstrong would of been the player who could of changed that last night, we've lost them we now need quality replacements and Yes. I'd of brought Roberts on for either Forrest or rogic.

Is it just me or is sincy predictable, if I was a right back I'd of loved playing against a guy that runs down the wing and then always cuts back on his right foot, he's lost that ability to drive take players on and have that final product. I recon it's a confidence issue but if no improvement in 6 month's he's served his time. Move on.

Defence I seen a lot of noise that only 1 (Tierney) is good enough. Personally Ayer is the only CB I've seen in a decade in the same mold as VVD for us. Boy is young, strong (will get stronger) , fast and can pass, take players on and can head a ball. He's going to be a star in a year or two. Hendry is young he's decent got to get that bit of experience before we'll see the best of him but the two of them were solid the last two European games. Which brings me on to the biggest problem area, poor lustig. Loyal servant but I've seen a sloth move faster than him. His days as a right back are done, he'd be better either in the middle or brought on later in a game when other people's legs have gone. His pace is causing both him and us problems in the game now time to bring someone else in regardless how much cover we have there.

If we make it through I think we need another Right back in for the season, another centre half (yes wip out 8-10million) for someone half decent. And another centre mid of quality would be good someone who offers something different. I'd like to say another left mid as I think both Forrest and Morgan are suffice out right but left needs strength.

What your thoughts?

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09 Aug 2018 11:04:29
People think we are good because we are so far ahead domestically in a total joke of a league let's be honest.

In Europe in the last 3 years we have had 3 good results. Man City and Anderlecht. Even 2 of them were draws.

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09 Aug 2018 06:52:56
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 9th August 2018

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09 Aug 2018 06:19:27
Never saw game this morning but gutted by the result.

Are we still pushing forward with the insane idea of a Hotel?

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09 Aug 2018 05:51:49
Well in the words of Oliver hardy heres another fine mess you've put us in Pedro, totally undermined the manager lost 2 players didn't replace them and still expect to get to cl group's. brilliant . we know the land of milk and honey awaits if only we Speculate a little and we'll accumulate same nonsense every summer sick of it. same weaknesses at the back not addressed Nay be not a bad thing getting through cause we'd get humiliated again. it's a bad day when sevconians are laughing at us.

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09 Aug 2018 06:01:27
I wouldn't worry too much about them Mally. We'll win more than them this season. And at the very least we'll get to the Europa. They won't.

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09 Aug 2018 06:09:55
Will we?

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09 Aug 2018 06:40:57
Absoltely MP.

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09 Aug 2018 08:38:23
I hope u r right JimTim. But on that performance and the teams in the Europa league and the players we have l wouldn't hold my breath. We lack so much quality all over the pitch.

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09 Aug 2018 09:19:59
It was a below par performance Ter bud. They happen. We can play better. But already the entire back line should be changed, Congerton sacked, and Rodgers and Tierney are looking to move on.

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09 Aug 2018 05:32:52
I thought last nights game was so frustrating. It was one of those where they were there for the taking too, they were unfortunate to go down to 10 for me - not much in that second yellow. I thought our pressing and turnover of possession was excellent, which was what made the lack of ideas up top even worse. When we're winning the ball back so quickly and continuously, there didn't seem like anybody was willing to play the risky incisive pass or take a step and get a shot away. Far too much stroking the ball left to right and quite predictable. Forrest, Rogic and Edouard were poor. Cal Mac the only player who looked like creating anything. Tierney was excellent getting into dangerous positions but too many crosses finding yellow jerseys. That out the way, we look the better side, I just hope we can go away there, ignore the atmosphere and show it.

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09 Aug 2018 06:56:37
I thought they got their tactics spot on. Forcing us to go wide knowing we don't have much of a presense up front to get on the end the crosses. We missed Moussa.

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09 Aug 2018 07:43:18
Fair and good observation LM. I think Edouard has more to his game than Dembele. However, I'll never underestimate strikers like Dembele who come alive in the box. Which is why, when fit, they'll both play. Quite obviously, and naturally, they were much more compact with 10. I doubt that will quite be the case over there and am confident we can score given we need to.

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09 Aug 2018 01:13:04
Right answer this for me please the BBC have reported tonight that Emilio and Jason D were being spoken to to join Celtic now Emilio was great for us but that was then now that to me I lazy scouting the same with Jason D. I can see thought why the left back but if we have plenty CHs why Jason D? Must be the threat of one CH leaving I wonder who that could be?

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08 Aug 2018 23:04:26
Hey Ed hope your good, not posted/ contributed for a while, like yourself had Some troubles and I send my condolences on your work mate passing, out with family there's always that one person or 2 that stick and it hurts.
Been on every day tho for a wee look, struggled to log back in no going to lie 😂

John Mcginn would have made no odds on tonight's result, although we should have signed him last season! That old story!
We've got a beltin first 11 and a good squad. Always room tho.
We're all at different ages on here, but some obviously don't know how Celtic work.
It's happened for years and it will for a long time so it's nothing new for the old timers.
John Mcginn is the best player in Scotland out with the Celtic first 11 and for few measly ££££ the board failed to bring him in, waited till last minute to even get close and it's embarrassing, PL has worked wonders in the last few years but he's still a wee fox
Champions league millions, probs £60mil over last 2 seasons
If we sell Dembele £20mill at least, Tierney £20mil at least, Edouard for FREE, now worth whatever we want, don't let the £9mill pish get to your heads, we've broke even, not spent it!
Spanking dafabet deal! but not enough to stretch to get a player The Gaffer wanted?
Brendan Rodgers must be regretting asking for that new pitch now 😂 another £1.5mill.

Don't all jump in 2 feet first, my millions for Moussa Tierney etc were estimates but I know you will anyway and the bigger picture will be forgotten about.
It's embarrasing that we left it too late, for Mcginn or anyone else in the future, pay up!

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{Ed007's Note - Nice to hear from you, BBJ and thanks for your kind words. There seeks to be a glitch with some e-mail adresses (hotmail??) so if anyone else is having problems send a message to ed033 using the 'contact us' button.
The transfer window started so well for us with Edouard but since then we seem to be flicking through John Park's 2015 contact list, there's no way that Rodgers wants Denayer or Izaguirre, the wee Ozzy guy will probably spend time in the development squad so where's the players Congerton and the scouts have found?
It's starting to stink like Lawwell is deciding signings again to me.}

09 Aug 2018 01:54:57
So that being said do you think BR and the board will now say ok lessons learned let not make that mistake again. So Brendan let's not make the same mistake again lol no chance if this continues it will be BRs last year he's no going to stand for that rubbishe.

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09 Aug 2018 02:11:02
I pray your wrong ed.

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09 Aug 2018 01:33:33
Jeezo ed I hope your wrong. Congerton was brought in with a lot of optimism among the fans, I still hope we can bring some cl level players in after the English window shuts, don't piss on ma parade.

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09 Aug 2018 00:11:21
Lots of fans seem more annoyed that we have missed out on selling McGinn on in the future for a huge fee rather than feeling annoyed that we are missing out on what he would add to the team on the pitch.

Brendan has spoken clearly about his desire to replace outgoing players with players of a higher calibre to take us to the next level. Correct me if I am wrong but i don't think BR has ever come out and said that HE wanted McGinn, as far as I have read he confirmed the clubs interest in the player and that a bid had been made. Who's to say that McGinn was ever really his main target? Maybe more a target of the club who placed a set value on him given his contractual status? One for BR to develop and improve like he has done with so many others so far. Who knows?

In the last 2 years we've put a decent outlay out on Dembele (wages) , Ntcham and Eduoard. Their class has shown already. I'm hoping there will be 1 or 2 more like this before the window closes. I think McGinn would have been a decent acquisition but I don't think he was ever the man to take us to the next level.

Plenty of time left in the transfer window. Remember the MSM are desperate to spread as much negativity as possible around our club whilst bigging up this so called challenge from Newco. It sells papers and keeps phone ins going. Don't fall for it. Keep the faith and let the good times keep rolling. Tonight's result is obviously dissapointing but I am confident we will get the result in Athens needed to progress. HH.

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09 Aug 2018 00:36:48
He did say he wanted Mcginn mate, made it clear that it was knew by the club for months.

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