Celtic Banter Archive August 09 2016

09 Aug 2016 22:31:08
Any ideas how simunovic is getting on? is he nearing a comeback or is this guy fast becoming a dud!?

{Ed007's Note - Simunovic has been doing light training for the last 10 days or so.}

09 Aug 2016 23:24:21
A player plays with a broken bone in his knee and we wonder is he a dud?
Players can get injured.

10 Aug 2016 06:36:33
The point I'm making here old bhoy is if he keeps picking up injuries constantly then he's hardly a success is he!?
4.5 million and he's had how many injuries?
At this point in his Celtic career its pointing to dud hopefully he will recover.

10 Aug 2016 09:41:36
The guy is either very unlucky or injury prone and for the reported money we paid, must be a concern?
It doesn't help when you hear rumours that he didn't want to be here anyway and when you add Boyata, Mulgrew and Ambrose, it seems we do have a defensive 'duds' problem for BR to address.

10 Aug 2016 11:16:25
Hasn't it just been the one injury that eventually needed operating on?

{Ed007's Note - No. He injured his ankle just after the Ajax game last season. This injury was to his knee after it was discovered in January he had been playing with a broken bone there.}

09 Aug 2016 20:23:45
Hi Ed,

Hope you are well.

Is there any news regarding Henderson. Is another loan deal on the cards? Hope he is with us long term and see's any loan deal as a way to progress rather than see it as an end to his Celtic career. He definitely has the qualities to be a future star for us. Maybe he could be now given the chance.

{Ed007's Note - Celtic want Henderson away on a permanent deal rather than a loan, Stan.}

09 Aug 2016 21:08:05
Thanks Ed, Very surprised by that if i'm honest. Obviously don't watch Hibs so have no idea how last seasons loan went but always though he did well when playing for us and was definitely one for the future.

09 Aug 2016 21:15:33
Ed is there any main reason why the club would prefer Henderson 2 move on? every time I've saw him in a hoops jersey, couldn't tell u how well he did at hibs, bar the stokesy final, n he had a few decent touches then, but he has always looked the part 2 me in a Celtic shirt, the inter Milan set up 4 guide to being an example.
In my opinion given proper game time could have been a big player 4 us, but br must not fancy him I assume. Hail hail.

{Ed007's Note - Celtic can't give Henderson the game time he's looking for and it was decided it was in the best interests of both parties if he moved on permanently, if it was only a loan he'd more than likely be back at Hibs.}

09 Aug 2016 21:35:32
Gutted way this would rather the wee man than Magregor tbh.

09 Aug 2016 21:43:21
That's a shame, out of all our young midfielders he was 1 I expected 2 c more first team football this season, think he would be good alongside Scott brown with licence 2 go 4ward n brown 2 sit.
I know we have an abundance of midfielders but I felt Henderson was one that could cement a place in our team if given a chance.

09 Aug 2016 21:54:16
It is beyond me that Calum McGregor gets a game ahead of Liam Henderson. It would be a very disappointing outcome if the lad is let go.

09 Aug 2016 21:44:24
Cheers for the info Ed mate your knowledge is always appreciated hail hail.

{Ed007's Note - You're welcome buddy. (yes)

09 Aug 2016 22:25:19
Would prefer him over McGregor, Armstrong and Bitton to be honest and I liked what I saw when NL gave him a few games.
Obviously got to trust the managers decisions, but it seems Rogic and Christie are others, he doesn't fancy and Allen already has been shipped out - while old-unreliable Forrest seems back in favour?

09 Aug 2016 22:40:32
Two managers in a row don't seem to rate L H and I think that speaks volumes as the Managers have both the expertise to judge and the best opportunities to see him the most . I have nothing against the lad and hope he makes it elsewhere.

10 Aug 2016 07:51:34
Not recognising Ronnie, as any kind of manager, I would say that BR hasn't had long enough to assess Hendersons potential, I would rather play Henderson in midfield rather than McGregor, nothing against McGregor, but he is a striker (not as good as LG) , never is he a midfield player.

09 Aug 2016 19:45:04
Lots of talk of a number 10 type wanted and who will BR go for.
I not so sure BR will try for a player like that when you consider LG, MD, SS, PR, are almost stick-ons for most games.
Now I would love a player like that as most are very talented but the way BR is setting us up with the front 4, the 2 midfielders will need to be central players and not a luxury as most no 10s are.
I personally think he will go for just a better standard of midfielder assuming we can ofcourse, as playing with a no 10 with the front 4 we have will leave our back door wide open.

09 Aug 2016 20:07:03
Never leave your back door wide open rayman!

09 Aug 2016 20:25:50
Stevie: With jokes like that you should be on the stage, There`s one leaving in 5 mins. boom tish.

09 Aug 2016 19:19:13
Sunderland agree fee for Paddy McNair and the boy Love. Just one to check off the list, don't think many fans wanted him anyway.

09 Aug 2016 19:49:06
I don't think anyone was wanting him at celticPark mate.

09 Aug 2016 19:49:06
I don't think anyone was wanting him at celticPark mate.

09 Aug 2016 18:41:56
Chuffed with big rogic signing a new deal! This boy has got the lot if he can stay fit! Every time I see him coming on he stands out! Hope BR can get the best out of him now.

09 Aug 2016 21:55:06
Agree beav81 some quality performances n goals in the last year odds after finally getting injury free under Rd. For me even if u get 60 minutes out of him, he has great feet, he's strong, can pick a pass n can score, a few crackers 2. His main issue is still fitness, but if br can get him 2 get the best performance he can in those 60 minutes when he starts or 30 minutes or less coming off the bench, where he makes an impact more consistently, that makes a real goal threat with Griff paddy dembele Sinclair n rogic.
Hail hail.

09 Aug 2016 18:08:52
Thoughts on rogic new deal! A think he could do a decent job for us if he given a run of games! BR must rate him.

{Ed007's Note - Is that him been put in charge of contract negotiations already?}

09 Aug 2016 17:49:12
All this talk of a creative midfield player. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts of any players that might be available or would like to have at Celtic in that position.

09 Aug 2016 18:56:50
Get nibbler in for a trial, see where he's at. Name printing at the club store would cover his wages. I'm not even joking.

09 Aug 2016 17:32:50
Rogic signs new 3 year deal!

09 Aug 2016 17:41:09
This is fantastic news! Get him fit to last 90 mins and build our team around him. HH.

09 Aug 2016 17:55:12
That is great news! The bhoy is a player!

09 Aug 2016 16:48:20
A lot has been made out of the exclusion of KC from the champions league squad. He has been injured and no where near fit. I saw a list of the A squad and B squad but the B both had Henderson and Tierney in it can anyone explain this as neither are in A? The B seems to be the youngsters squad?

09 Aug 2016 17:02:02
overreaction i feel BT, what's the point in registering an unfit player just back from injury.

09 Aug 2016 17:31:27
Because we can register them in that squad and save more space in the a squad.

09 Aug 2016 22:56:19
Every player no matter how good they are, slow down and deteriorate . It appears Commons has reached that stage in his career . Kris said he would be available for selection a fortnight ago. B R seems to be determined to get his men in& out .
Good business getting 23 yr old Rogic to sign for another 3 yrs.

09 Aug 2016 17:31:08
He hasn't played at all for BR so why is it a surprise to see him left out?

09 Aug 2016 17:55:35
Cheers BB just found it odd to see KT out the A squad. BW yeah it is a little overreacted is KC even training properly yet? Can see another 3 in and 6 out before he window closes.

09 Aug 2016 16:42:18
Ed . how many players can a sfl club take on loan from an epl .

{Ed007's Note - Since 2014, clubs can have a maximum of four players on loan, three of whom must be under 21. Clubs can have two players on loan from the same club as long as that club is in a different division. However clubs can only take one player on loan at any time from a club in the same division.}

09 Aug 2016 12:33:15
Young Aiden Nesbitt on loan at Greenock, straight in the squad for there game against Hamilton! Only until January but it's expeirience all in all.
I wonder who our wild card signing will be. Fair enough were linked with McNair but apparently he's being offered to Sunderland. The majority of our signings will be based in England due to Rodgers' knowledge I reckon. Anyone heard anything? Cheers likes eh.

09 Aug 2016 09:00:43
Morning All, Ed is there a cut off date for a wildcard for this qualifier?

{Ed007's Note - Midnight (CET), the night before the first leg.)

09 Aug 2016 11:54:28
U fancy us to add anybody ED? Or do u think we'll wait and see if we get through and add maybe a real quality creative player? Would like to think if we make CL then BR would get some decent money!

{Ed007's Note - Yes I do think there'll be at least one new signing in by then. Don't you think the overall money spent on the Sinclair deal is decent? You're talking circa £6 million and that's not including his wages. Toure on a free transfer is probably costing us more than signing Shane Duffy, including the transfer fee, and we simply got a bargain with Dembele.
Celtic have spent and tied up well over £10 million so far this window and we're still looking to add players.}

09 Aug 2016 12:22:50
Does BR have a tranfer budget of around 16million, can't remember where i heard that from.

09 Aug 2016 12:28:28
Fair point ED. just hoping for a bit of quality in the midfield, still think it's to slow in there! What positions u think the manager wants to strengthen ED? I know he says another 2! U hoping it's a new GK? Lol.

{Ed007's Note - If we bring in another GK I still think we need another 2, a CM with a bit of guile and another striker. If Griffiths or Dembele get inured all we've got is Ciftci and the youngsters

09 Aug 2016 13:03:07
Cheers Ed.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

09 Aug 2016 13:04:05
6m? Is that with add ons?

{Ed007's Note - No, that's with all the costs involved in buying a player:

What is paid by the buying club would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents.
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches(what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).
(n) Variables and tax on variables which may or may not be reclaimable) – these would typically include legal fees, moving/relocation costs, etc..}

09 Aug 2016 13:16:50
Ah, well I knew there were additional fees but not an extra £2.5m - I'm basing that on the reported £3.5m transfer fee. Well, at least the board have backed their man.

{Ed007's Note - We paid £4 million for him. The SFA levy and VAT on the fee adds another £1 million straight onto it, and that's before you start considering Sinclair's signing on fee, legal fees, agent fees etc etc.}

09 Aug 2016 13:22:13
Cheers ED! Aye a wouldn't mind seeing another striker in to mate! Things are shaping up nicely but. getting rid of some of the deadwood and bringin in players to go straight in! Think we'll be happy by the end of the window! Well I hope we are lol.

{Ed007's Note - I think we'll see quite a few players leaving before the end of the window, the squad is still far too big.}

09 Aug 2016 13:30:49
Spot on ED007 there are plenty who think it's a simple case of just getting the cheque book out and who don't give a second thought to all the work that has to go on in the background before a signing is completed, football is a complicated business these days.

{Ed007's Note - Especially when you're dealing with clubs and players from England.}

09 Aug 2016 14:11:29
So how many of those letters did rangers skip when they signed players!

09 Aug 2016 23:09:16
If we can get rid of up on 6 players and sign another couple of the calibre that we have signed I will be more than happy .
We have at least 38 competitive games to play before the end of the year . We need some where near 20 players who are eager and kean and ready at all time to play for us.

09 Aug 2016 10:00:10
I see Jason Denayer been told to look for a new club. Would bring him back before we went in for Paddy McNair, don't really rate the guy tbh.

09 Aug 2016 10:11:00
I would take JD back anyday.

09 Aug 2016 10:34:25
would he come back tho? and could we afford him?

09 Aug 2016 11:15:38
Don't think he would want to come back.

09 Aug 2016 11:56:16
I heard Southampton were looking at him.

09 Aug 2016 12:10:28
Due to my boss being a Man Utd fan i had to endure watching them quite a bit on my last few Projects abroad. I just do not rate McNair at all. Every game i saw him in he was rotten.

09 Aug 2016 15:24:42
Do people forget that JD didn't say nice things about the club when he left? Also he is no where close to the player he was when here, he has gotten worse and his ego has grown a lot. He thought he was the best after new contract at city and has gone backwards.

09 Aug 2016 16:20:33
Agree Footy.

He tested himself in Turkey and only played around 20 games. He played around 50 for us so when he looks back he has to think it was more beneficial playing for us. It would be more beneficial than him sitting on the bench at City as they have just signed John Stones for nearly 50 million.

Serious question but would he walk into our team with Sviachenko, Toure and O'Connell all impressing? Do we need him? Was he only good because he had one of the best centre halves I have ever seen in the hoops beside him in VVD?

09 Aug 2016 16:42:00
never said anything derogatory about the club, same as VVD, it was the league.