Celtic Banter Archive November 08 2013

08 Nov 2013 21:55:49
Fingaboson hits another hat trick . Nice one Peter . DH

08 Nov 2013 23:24:32
Would like to think we never got this guy because he never fancied Scottish football, but I believe it's because we were our usual tight fisted not wanting to pay 5 million and 30 grand a week to one quality player, we would rather spend 5 million on 3 duds and spend 30 grand a week on their wages. Stevie {Ed007's Note - Finnbogason never said he wasn't open to a move to Scotland. If he had why did it drag on so long and not be nipped in the bud like the Marko Arnautović deal was.}

09 Nov 2013 11:30:20
I understand peoples frustration just now but seriously we didn't get the boy for one reason or another why don't we just get behind the boys we do have and let's see if they can do something we couldn't do with hooper wanyama wilson etc and get a win at dingwall maybe its just me but I was brought up supporting the hoops during that mobs nine in a row and seem some far far more shocking players than we have now but still went week in week out to support the bhoys on the pitch some c'mon let's forget about who we missed the boat with there's nowt we can do till january at the least

08 Nov 2013 18:42:08
Why are we travelling by bus tomorrow? An
unnecessary 3 hour bus trip when we could have flown. C'mon Peter get the lid of the biscuit tin.

THEY could have stayed in a luxury hotel tonight like THE big team did when they played stranraer, joke, get real pal, maybe you can afford to hire a jet, but that's what's wrong with these socalled footballers, they need to take a reality check, as fergus said, they get payed too much for doing too little, 3 hours on a luxury coach to dingwall is'nt the hardship its made out to be

Haha it's funny how road trips are viewed in Europe, we drove our kids to see their grandma for the holidays. The wife and I drove from Melbourne to Canberra and back, that's 16 hours driving. And that's not even hard. We did Melbourne to Gold Coast in one hit, 21 hours. 3 hours on a luxury bus with your iPod and slippers won't hurt, it would actually help the team bond.

Melb Bhoy {Ed007's Note - I bet the kids were impressed with that time cooped up in the car. The Griswalds are going to Austria :)

Melb bhoy lol we have to drive 8 hours on a corrugated road with 4 river crossings (no bridges) the road is unpassable in the wet season (6 months of the year) just to get to Katherine lol
You city folk get it so easy lol 3 hours on a bus trip would be a doddle :-) prima donnas I say lol
(Ps melb bhoy, hope essondon have a better year next year for you)

Taz

The kids are expert travellers now thanks ed :)

Cheers Taz, hopefully Chappy can kick a lazy forty :)

Melb Bhoy

:-)

Reminds me of the Monty Python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch -

(Charles Green voice)

"We used to live in a shoebox int'middle oft'road"

"Cardboard box, was it?"

"Aye"

"You were lucky".


TomTheTim

08 Nov 2013 17:22:13
Hey Ed a question, will uefa punish Ajax on 3 seperate accounts or group it all together? With the trouble they caused at paradise and then attacking the fans in the bar and that whole police in civilian cloths provoking us and now the offensive banner, they charge them on three seperate accounts no matter if it took place in short time or on same day right? I ask this cause if they get away with just a small fine by grouping it all together is just wrong! Three seperate accounts I would think it would be a fine, a bigger fine and a close stadium penalty or along those lines right? I know you can't predict uefa's ruleing giving how they don't seem consistent what do you think will happen? {Ed007's Note - There will be a hearing held in front of UEFA's Disciplinary Panel onNovember 12th regarding the banner.}

Celtic fans eventually succumbed and reacted to sustained provocation. One incident involved Celtic fans, it was a spontaneous reaction by less than ten fans with bystanders. What they had to suffer was deliberate premeditated calculated sustained violent acts, ENTRAPMENT.

08 Nov 2013 18:45:30
Sadly, I think UEFA have no jurisdiction about violence away from a football ground.
So the violence by Ajax fans in Glasgow city centre will not be punished, only what they did INSIDE Celtic Park.
The same applies in Amsterdam, the attack by Ajax thugs on the bar and in the city centre will not be looked at, as ED007 only the banner will be looked at as it was inside their stadium.
We all saw the provocation our fans were subjected to, but they were wrong to retaliate, but questions must be masked why plain clothes policeman, wearing masks, were even near the fans. I think it would have been hard to separate them from the masked Ajax fans, not an excuse maybe one factor in what the Celtic fans did. Timalloy

The civilian cops getting involved just reeks of that it was all planed for how could so many off duty cops be there. and you can't charge a person for having a pop at a cop who is not identified as one or dose not make it clear without identification, there is no way the fans knew this for the "cops" attacked fans so it is self defense so the gov needs to make things better and more organized.
Common sense must prevail and I would say giving all what happened is kick them out for the fans are linked to ajax club and the club is held responsible to the rules. Wonder what it takes to get a club kicked out? And not saying kick them out just so we advance but because it's clear the club is supported by football thugs that just like to fight and cause trouble instead of supporting the club and sport

Returned last night from Amsterdam oblivious to what went on at Dam Square . 12 of us were in Dam Square and had a really good time from one o'clock and left at five when it was starting to get dark and heavy rain had started . Around three o'clock we saw about 10 mounted police approach the square which we found strange as every one was in good spirits . My own take on it was the heavy brigade waited till most people were maybe a wee bit much for wear and picked on them to provoke a reaction which worked in their favour . As I say never seen any trouble over there, all I seen was bhoys and ghirls having a great old time . I've also seen the same thing happend to Man City fans last year and Steau Bucharest fans who were attacked in Dam Square which can be viewed on line . Too much of a coincidence for me . Also I would love to know from the high and mighty mayor of Amsterdam who condemned the Celtic fans is how much income generated the last few days . DH

DH I agree with you on this I was in dam square most of day banter with locals and polis was great. I left b4 trouble started and was oblivious till I met the bhoys from our bus a bit later on

welshbhoy

08 Nov 2013 16:19:04
Forster

Fisher Lustig. V v d. Mugrew

E f e

Mcgeogh. kayal. Ledley. Izzy.


Stokes (watt)

I keep shuffling the sqaud about, does anyone think efe could play in the hole left by wanyama, also izzy could use his attacking skills further forward, brown or kayal getting into the box . Yes I know there's no brown. ( he's vastly overated imho sorry guys ) and no I'm not a rangers fan lol

I believe izzy and effe are used as kids for thier country so they should have no problem with it. I would like to see them play thier to see if thier play steps up being more comfortable, although they are good in the back but they may bring more offense as they like going forward

I also happen to think our "captain" is overrated but anyways I feel the key is always two forwards. Some would argue then that our midfield would get swamped on the big stage. Answer. get better midfielders. Heres another idea. What about two formations? I reckon its not hard to say to our players when we attack we are a 4 2 4 and when we defend we are a 4 4 2 at the very least or one forward drops off making the counter attack a little easier with a target man closer to hand than a big punt up the park.
Just my thinking.
ParadiseAndy

Lets all do the Broony. We are very lucky to have Scott Brown and he is a very loyal servant of our club. let's all do the Broony.

08 Nov 2013 13:22:12
after wed we have seen again we are good enough to win spl but short in cl , we need to strengthen/adjust areas of the team in particular midfield / wide areas and forward, this means buying quality not quantity., but do we need a clearout also? I will give my opinion on who I would keep or replace and would be interested in other opinions, FOSTER, has some aspects of his game that need work but his attributes far outweigh them. LUSTIG, keep, good defensive and attacking, consistant, never hides and is improving . MATTHEWS, keep . same attributes as lustig at rb and I think could easily play as winger or midfield .EFE, keep, got better and looks good alongside vvd, cut out most of his concentration lapses, VVD, keep, the bhoy looks a class act already and will only get better. IZZY, keep, I think has started to show better form, defensively naive at times but not the worst lb I've seen, good going forward and I think could play futher up the park as winger, but we need competition for him as we have no other lb, midfield,, SAMARAS, let go, people say on his game he is unplayable and I tend to agree, he has got everything but in nearly 150 games for us how many times has he been on his game or even half decent, less than half? a quarter? in most games he is lazy, runs into defenders or falls over, contributes little tracking back, so I for one can't be arsed waiting for him to decide if he can be bothered to play, KAYAL, let go, decent player but not as good as brown or ledley so will be on bench more often than not, BROWN, keep, team is not as good without him which I think says it all, MULGREW, LEDLEY, let one go keep one, both good but play in the same areas, I think ledley is better then charlie but charlie gives the team more option as cover / utility player, COMMONS, let go, not that I think commons a bad player but this is the area of midfield we need to improve the most ie a genuine playmaker of real quality .FORREST, let go, the bhoy is consistantly inconsistant he is a decent player who might get better but makes .the same mistakes too often, STOKES, keep. better footballer than he gets credit for has aspects of his game that can and need to improve,,,, boerittger balde pukki rogic biton haven't played enough to decide on yet but we have 5 players here who cost approx 7 million who are mostly sitting on the bench .would we not have been better spending that on one quality player who would be a first pick, I know everybody has favs and will not agree with my views on players above, but I think most will agree we have to many squad players and not enough quality, who would you keep or let go and what areas do you think need most attention, imo a play maker and a goalscorer are a priority,,,, deep river bhoy

Our CL performance this season has been dire. We need very talented fresh blood and cut loose the dead wood.
I agree with most of your assessment except boerigter, Puki, balde, Rogic, mulgrew, Ledley, samaras, need to go Christmas or summer. Unless one of them comes very good. I'd keep commons and Forrest as commons was first game in three weeks due to injury and Forrest is young enough to get back to previous quality ways. I just don't think Lenny has the nads to shove off somebody superfluous like Mulgrew. If we look at the last three years there's been numerous awful bad transfers/ trialists coming to tens of millions, Lawwells wasted millions! It's all just not Celtic quality at all and finally the manager ultimately has to take it in the neck. His cups and SPL performances isn't great either for the facilities and budget he gets compared to the rest of Scottish football.

08 Nov 2013 15:18:44
i agree with commons and forrest to let go. I think forster WILL go also. disagree with letting kayal go. he will give his all so that's the type player we need. keep mulgrew to. the one player as I have said before recently and also years ago we need starting:

TONY WATT

the young lad has it all. our best striker by far I think but what do we do loan him out. fs I would play bangura and him up front instead of what we have been playing. give balde a few starts with stokes or pukki or something. we need something different!

the reason we lost against ajax is cause commons can't support stokes. how many times do we see 4411 we need TWO strikers. atajic even should get a game against ross county. he has something different and I feel the team needs changed round

main point being RECALL tony watt!

Kieran Bhoy

Deep river Bhoy made a lot of sense in his appraisal of our squad and I totally agree if someone comes in for Samaras, sell him .Probably has a good game about 1 in 10 and I didn't see him win anything in the air on Wednesday, p/poor for a man of his height . Just to finish off, what is Neil Lennon thinking off making him captain .!never a leader .Hail Hail Vinciebhoy

08 Nov 2013 10:05:57
Ther is an easy way for Celtic fc to bring this to the front door of eufa, make a statement saying if Ajax was to be drawn in the same group as are selfs that no tickets for away fans will be sold as a safety issue, it then puts the ball at the feet of eufa as do they let any fans go to that sh!t hole

Its not that simple, by taking part in uefa tournaments you re agreeing to follow their rules which include giving the away team a certain percentage of tickets

I agree but eufa have it stated clear that the safety of the fans is paramount, and a place where fans are attacked by fans and police alike is not safe, the fact is Celtic fc have a obligation to protect ther fans as does the club and country they travel too as Glasgow and Celtic do, eufa need to come down on this as a religious crime by both club fans of Ajax and the state of holland s police force, because the next team to play in Amsterdam it could be worse with serious injury and even worse with these animals I personally think the only thing that stopped a onslaught of Celtic fans was the bond of them to stick by each other as the going says were like family, eufa have a choice act on this hate crime or never too be took serious again by a law abiding giant

If we don't want to host away fans due to their criminality but Uefa force us to then the repair bills need to be sent to Uefa with a "told you so" covering letter.