Celtic Banter Archive August 07 2015

07 Aug 2015 19:39:23
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07 Aug 2015 18:21:22
Malmo are there and I am glad we are at Celtic park 1st
Would love the board to reward the 12th man and reduce ticket prices £15 for adults £5 for kids get the place jumping
Past few games it's been quiet and everyone in the ground a bag of nerves
Lots at stake so understandable
Really think that by doing this it gives something back to the fans that the board players and staff refer to as best in the world

07 Aug 2015 18:46:20
great idea

but to be put in context. if they can get £25 and sell out (inc £10 for kids etc) then that would amount to a near £500k site off and CFC aren't really in the business of doing that …they don't speculate to accumulate and so will view this match as a money spinner (as opposed to "sacrificial income" to set the tone to do the business)

prove me wrong Mr Lawell

07 Aug 2015 19:56:57
Prices are already listed on club website sth at £22.

07 Aug 2015 20:34:08
The club rarely show diligence and foresight like this and it would have been a great incentive (and reward) for the support they always tell us are the best in the world etc etc etc.
What the board lack in investment of the team, could have been compensated for in some small way by this gesture and ensure a capacity crowd for a precarious play off tie.
These qualifiers have been a very nervy affair for a good few years now because of the timing of the ties, the turnover of players and the obvious drop in quality of players and we need every incentive to get the club back on track in Europe.

07 Aug 2015 20:40:44
Sure it said £27

07 Aug 2015 21:12:21
Marco, we have a great number of fans posting here demanding that the club buys new players . Buying new players cost money , most people would prefer the club to charge a couple of quids extra to help to create a bigger transfer kitty, rather than leave the individual fans the price of a pint .
We are a professional club and if we qualify for the champions League we will be one of the poorest .
Can we afford a price reduction at a game that will attract the biggest crowd so far this season .
Charging less won't have the fans less nervous , or cause them to be more vocal in their support

08 Aug 2015 04:33:59
Old Bhoy: no, it won't. The atmosphere comes from the product on display, as does the anxiety & nail biting. No one on here is unaware of the amount we've spent on players versus the amount 'we've' made.

I'm not lucky enough to be close enough to get to the games, but I'd reckon most celtic fans want a competitive team at all levels, attractive football when feasible, and results befitting our tradition. At the very least that requires a reliable striker or two.

What are all these extra sales going to? For seasons now - does anyone know? Its not like we need an endowment, or have a mortgage? The players salaries: how do they compare to the executives'? Is there a similar 'structure'? I suspect not.

Can't we sell Lawell & co this window, in short?

08 Aug 2015 09:22:06
Old Bhoy if you think the club adding a few quid on to tickets prices for one match will increase the transfer kitty in anyway then you are deluded. The board will cont to spend the bare minimum to appease the fans as they have done for to long now. One match ticket will have no impact on that whatsoever.

07 Aug 2015 15:01:27
Had a look at the Malmö ff stats of the players looks like they score goals from everywhere there captain 2/3 goals per game . there new loan forward has scored 6 goals in 4 games and there 2 attacking midfielders Berget and his former team mate from Cardiff have 16 goals out of 29 games between them . If we don't sign a natural goal scorer we won't make it into the group stage we have one lad that can score for fun but he's not trusted in the big games he should be giving a chance . I think we need a big strong forward that has pace and can header the ball

07 Aug 2015 15:14:10
There's no chance we'll sign anyone! Especially before the Malmo games! If it wasn't clear we need a goal scorer and bit of creativity after watch the 2 quarabag games then I'm afraid someones not doing there job properly! And I've said it before,if we go out before the group stages then it's one mans fault and that's Lawell! But I'll wait to see the 2 Malmo games before I make a proper judgement! Hopefully with a couple of league games under our belts we can get past the swedes!

07 Aug 2015 16:15:15
Kenneth calm down, in RD I and We should trust. Can see Kris Commons coming on at Celtic Park and putting this game to bed in the first leg. We are in the Champions League Play off just be thankful we were in the Champions bit of the draw. Our team are better than Malmo and we will have a better idea of how to beat them. Hail Hail

07 Aug 2015 16:27:23
we have a natural goal scorer in griffiths, it's weather Ronny decides to play him or not. I know managers I. The beginning stand by their transfers in, but the wee man has got to start the next qualifier, he scores goals for fun. I personally think if given enough game time, he will score 30+ goals this season

07 Aug 2015 16:30:13
Lawwell doesn't miss any chances of scoring , nor is it his responsibility to create chances for the striker. I would like to think he isn't responsible for identifying either of the above type players . Neither you or I know if there has been any players capable of carrying out these qualities identified for Lawwell to buy within the
quidelines set by our board
It's just possible that you have been blaming Lawwell in the wrong

07 Aug 2015 17:16:14
Gies peace old bhoy! lawell holds the purse strings and we've spent bugger all since RD came in! A blind man can see we're struggling up front! And it's lawells job to provide the manager with adequate funds for players! Which he hasn't done! we've not gave our selves the best chance to qualify in the past 2 seasons now! And in my opinion if we fail to get past Malmo,which I hope we don't! Then lawells to blame! Simple as that!

07 Aug 2015 18:16:47
Give yourself piece we are unbeaten this season , god knows what you will be like if we lose a game . That's the way oldco fans used to go on spend spend spend and if we don't win every game 5-0 it's the end of the world . We will beat malmo easily and if we don't for some reason then I for one will be there for the Europa league , you folk go on as if the champions league is the only competition worth playing in , its not it's a overrated competition we will never win and is rigged so only the super rich clubs can win it and become even richer .

07 Aug 2015 19:07:22
Your name old bhoy! Who on here has said spend spend spend? Must have missed those posts! I'm askin for decent investment in the team,to give us a better chance of getting in the CL! Our centre half has scored more goals in Europe than all our strikers put together! And for us the champions league is the only competition worth playin in! The Europa league is distant 2nd compared to it! As is shown by the crowds when we're in it! So no I don't want to spend spend spend and win every game 5 nil! I just want Lawell and the board to stop short changing the fans!

07 Aug 2015 20:09:13
Can I ask you when the where the vote took place to make you the spokesman for all the fans? My ballot paper must have got lost in the post . We will as a club remain self sustained and won't go into debt chasing 6 games in the champions league . If you can't get yourself up for league games or Europa league games then that is your problem no one else's, I AM personally up for every game we play be it a friendly, a league game or one of your overhyped cl games . There are plenty of teams who will overspent chasing unreachable targets and I'm sure they would be glad of your " support" , might even be one quite local to you if your from the Glasgow area .

07 Aug 2015 20:28:45
RD was quoted as saying he would like to be allowed to spend IF we made it to the group stages. So if we don't improve the team now is that not just the board saying they are not confident we are good enough to make it? Just a thought.

07 Aug 2015 20:38:33
Agree with the creativity and a big target man, Odegaard would be perfect for Europe for us and everyone's raving about Kramer but haven't seen him play if we get them 2 and Halstenburg punt Stokes and Boerigtter we've had a hell of a window

07 Aug 2015 20:43:29
We have the players to do a job, but we do need a bit more from one or two who are under-performing at present and an improvement in front of goal for sure.
We have only conceded one goal as yet and that is a big improvement on last season and we will probably not add anyone before the tie - unless we shift one or two out the door; so we have a couple of league games to get sharpness and momentum

07 Aug 2015 21:01:38
DH 88
I am sorry it just isn't simply buying a recognised striker that is going to make us certain to qualify for the Champions League .
A certain Turkish team signed Van Persie , who would be regarded as one of the best strikers in England . That Turkish team is out of the Champions League.

I am not sure if it is solely down to strikers for lack of goals in Europe in the 3rd round of the Qualifliers . Celtic knew they didn't have to score yesterday to qualify.

07 Aug 2015 21:11:48
Why will we never win it fab?

07 Aug 2015 22:20:29
Jimtim I would love us to more than anything else in the world , but it's not going to happen my dad seen us do it and swears it was the greatest day of his life ( not within earshot of my mother obviously 😊) but that was a different time and a different game , the cl is designed for the superrich teams and distributes the majority of the wealth to keep these teams super rich has a team from outside the big five countries even made the semi in the last 5 years? The last one I remember winning it was Porto and it has become even harder in the last 10 years . Can you tell me the last club to win it without a squad worth at least 100 million in the transfer market? It is a genuine question if anyone has an answer even the Porto team I mentioned brought in at least that amount in fees , and even if someone came along and gave us 200 million to spend we would still struggle to get real world class players to come to Scotland and that is what you need to win the cl nowadays. If we got a move to the epl well that is what they call a whole different story , but we won't win it playing in Scotland and in your heart of hearts you know this as well m8 .

07 Aug 2015 23:03:28
If we aren't chasing the 6 games in the champions league games as a club then what's the point . I'd like to think we can look beyond that . Maybe unrealistic but why are we prepared to settle for less . We say we're a big club so if that's the case playing in the most elite competition we can should be a must . Fed up with people saying support your team whatever , I agree support your team but surely we are entitled to want the best . Deep down I know winning the champions league is out of our reach but why should I accept it??

07 Aug 2015 22:57:44
Fab1 u talk one load of pish pal! And your ballot paper isn't the only thing Uve lost! It's half wits like you that's got Lawell rubbing his hands every year! Over hyped CL games! What's over hyped about the opportunity to play Madrid barca or bayern Munich!! Or do u prefer Astra and Zagreb in the EL! U constantly talk utter nonsense about over spending and getting into debt! And neither myself or any other fan on here has suggested doing that! But spending 500 grand this transfer window and thinkin that's enough to get in the CL and to give ourselves a chance isn't good enough for me! But u just go on ahead ploughing the money in and accepting struggling against your warsaws Maribors and the rest! And u question my support! It's so called fans like u with your doesn't matter if we get in the CL and I'm up for any game pish that has Lawell knowing that he doesn't have to spend that little bit more on a bit of quality! your small club mentality would perfectly suited to that team from the other side currently plying there trade in Scotlands 2nd tier! Myself I know exactly how big my club are and won't settle for anything but the best!

07 Aug 2015 23:17:23
Well said Bobby! Good to know there's people who actually realise how big a club we are and why shouldn't we want a bit more and want to aim high! But there's sum who will just carry on regardless,accepting there lot! That's not the Celtic I know and love!

07 Aug 2015 23:21:02
Fab1 I agree one hundred per cent . We can hope and expect to have Champions League football beyond Christmas . From that on it gets really difficult . We might go to the next stage once or twice but as you say we need something to happen to the environment which we are playing our bread and butter football to give us any chance .

08 Aug 2015 06:41:46
Dh88 and you are the type of half wit fan uefa love happy to be fodder for their super rich clubs , too stupid to realise we are only there when we do make it to make up the numbers , " but what a great night we had when we got beat by , barca /bayern /man u . I want to see us play in competition's that we have a chance of winning, I know exactly how big a club we are and watching us go up against teams who don't have our support or history but can spend 100s of millions of pounds because of geography and the way it is institutionally rigged against small countries breaks my heart , but I do apologise for telling you to go and support sevco , it's the ultimate insult and should not be used lightly.

{Ed001's Note - don't you think you are being a bit harsh with the half wit and too stupid things? Though I do agree with your sentiment, the FFP ruling has been introduced purely to ensure it is UEFA's chosen that win everything each year. Clubs like Celtic should be up there competing with their fanbase. About time they got rid of the extra qualifiers and went back to champions in the Champions League. The only team competing that might not have won their domestic championship should be the winners of the previous season's Champions League. And get rid of the league bit, it is boring as hell and purely about money. If you had a straight knockout teams with less money would stand a better chance. Though a final between two of UEFA's chosen is less likely to happen then and UEFA don't want that. It annoys me that the sport is being ruined for the sake of TV money.}

08 Aug 2015 08:41:40
In fairness ed he did call me a half wit who talked pish in the earlier post , I'm sure most would agree but I have to defend myself, lol 😁. I totally agree with what you said and I can tell you this If we were playing Dumbarton on one channel and barca - man u were on the other I would be watching us , it's sickening the fees and wages these teams pay , I'm not picking on them but but man u have spent 83 MILLION this summer according to sly and have only bought good to average players not a great one among them for all that money .

{Ed001's Note - ah ok, I never saw that previous post. I watch my team and those games that affect us first and foremost as well. I know the English league is not the best (no matter what Sly say), but I watch that out of choice because that is where my team is. To be perfectly honest, I really do not enjoy European football at all, even when we won things, most of the games are dire. I personally do not give a rat's arse about Real Madrid or who they are playing, unless the team they are facing is one I like. Personally I think UEFA are missing the big picture though, the thing that makes sports so exciting is the possibility of the underdog picking up a result. What they are doing is making that chance lower and lessening the interest for most people. They should be looking at how it affected Scotland when the likes of Aberdeen etc dropped so far behind Celtic and Rangers they could no longer compete and the league struggled to the point that even the big two have suffered financially. That could easily happen to others if the dominance bores people in European competitions.}

08 Aug 2015 08:55:07
See that's the problem but fab! Yeh we can't win it! And yeh it does my head in that these teams can throw 100s of millions! But I still want to be in with these clubs because that's where we have to be! To show that despite there millions that we can still give them a game and that no matter how many 100s of millions they spend that money can't buy the atmosphere of paradise on a CL nite! And for your we got beat by barca bayern and Manchester United I'll give u our wins against 2 of those 2 u mentioned! And Juve Milan Lyon Porto amongst others! These nites are the nites that's all the fans look forward to! Well nearly all lol! Who remembers the EL games last year? But I bet every one knows who scored the 4 goals in our 4-3 game against Juve!! I even remember there scorers lol! I apologise for the half wit comment mate but I just don't agree with your views on settling for 2nd best,which is what the EL is!

08 Aug 2015 13:56:56
Fab, as much as I respect everybodies views, often yours, and I can't speak for everbody - I just can't help disagreeing.

You'd rather stick to competitions we'd win? By that then you'd rather we get ourselves into the Challenge Cup than the Champions League? I'll gladly take the skelpings we've got for the sake of the victories. I don't mind us getting beat either. I was more pleased after the game we drew with Inter than I was beating Barca and Man Utd. I'll stick my neck out though and say you're in a vast minority. Which our board shouldn't be catering for anyway. Can't believe our two main Eds aren't fussed on the CL either!

Fab, do you not find the SPFL a wee bit monotomous? Do you not enjoy the CL nights? I know where you and 001 are coming from with UEFA, like the bhoys in Udine - f*ck 'em - it's as corrupt and dodgy as many huge institutions. But there's still a great football contest on show. The best in the world, in my humble opinion.

And we are on track to getting there. Without spending millions. Without spending anything actually. But there is no reason we can't win it. And definitely no reason we can't compete. That is just such a saddening view. Aye, and it would upset a few on here, I'd bet against us winning it. This season anyway. All I ask is that the board, like we've been told, put all monies back into the side. To give us a better chance. And they aren't.

08 Aug 2015 17:27:13
I know guys , when I think of McDonalds goal v ac Milan , Sutton v juve , wanyama v baca , Nakamura v man u and my favourite hartson v Liverpool even typing this takes me all the way back to those nights and my heart swells with pride , I loved those nights as well and I get so angry that with every passing season uefa seems to move the goal posts futher back so it's harder and harder to get these games , your right in truth I think we could do more with the money we have perhaps spend a bit more but also spend it more wisely as well , it's not just the zombies going bust that makes me a bit trepidation about being solvent, I was their when the old board took us to the brink of oblivion and that terrified me to this day , my philosophy about football gained over the years is it's swings and roundabouts and no matter what you do or how much you spend if you are on a downward spiral you can't avoid it . Maybe I'm just naïve and we could be spending more , I don't know enough about business to say one way or another .

07 Aug 2015 12:08:54
Trying to post something here site won't allow it.

Anyway, malmo fans happy at getting the 'worse team' away first leg.


:) could be right.

07 Aug 2015 11:40:46
Malmo it is, let's hope for the home leg first and get the job. HH

07 Aug 2015 09:13:12
Looking forward to the CL draw today (no matter who we get) but as it seems Celtic never get an easy draw I think we will be paired with Partisan Belgrade an up and coming team full of young, fit, ambitious players, they would probably be the toughest opponents at this stage.
OR if going by our luck in drawing teams from a zillion miles away we will end up with Astana and another long long trip.

07 Aug 2015 11:05:59
One we need to avoid is FC Basle. Would be happy if we got Partizan Belgrade

07 Aug 2015 11:25:04
Celtic v Malmo in the play off for the CL , the toughest draw we could have got out of the 5 teams .

07 Aug 2015 11:41:25
Malmo. Tricky game but one that we should be looking to win and progress.

07 Aug 2015 13:02:30
Got malmo probally the toughest one we could have gotten great result they had other night against salzburg the good news remember berget well he plays for them

07 Aug 2015 13:22:30
Malmo it is then, tough tie as they are well into their season, but on the plus side no long travelling and they have Berget in their side (what is the betting he blooming scores against us?) Also Ronnie will probably be well clued up as they are a Scandanavian side.

07 Aug 2015 14:24:40
They also have the old norwegian international manager Åge Hareide, who knows Deila quite good. He also have tons of european experience with Helsingborg, Rosenborg and now Malmø. Could turn out a real tricky one.
This game will really show wich level the team is at

07 Aug 2015 01:56:01
Once again it's left solely to us to try and get some coefficient points in Europe. Our also ranks are are bluff and blather.
I get really irked when three to four teams in other European countries automatically qualify fir the CHAMPIONS League group stages. The competition name is false advertising and the Financial Fair Play is a joke and is side stepped by the big guns along with the fact toothless EUFA are only concerned about the cash flow.
Right, bitch and rant over. Hail Hail

07 Aug 2015 07:43:16
Tim we had this discussion at work yesterday! Should be called the European cup at best! Spain has 5 entrants this year! How they can justify that while we have to play qualifiers is a joke. The co efficient ranking and points system is a joke even for the national set up! It's all about keeping the rich clubs richer! Was hoping that Platini would have been true to his word and banned teams if they fail to meet the FFP instead of fines for teams that are already cash rich. Would be great if UEFA/FIFA could come out and publicly justify letting spain have 5 entrants while we have to qualify after winning our league.

07 Aug 2015 07:56:46
The FFP rules are like any other, a sharp suited lawyer on £500 per hour will find ways to bend them.Imagine the team of people to deal with paperwork from EVERY single top tier team,and the endless checking involved,before you could even start an investigation!

07 Aug 2015 10:10:50
Agreed - the whole setup is a joke. it might be quite a while before we have to worry about qualifying through 3 rounds for the bog money. But the whole thing stinks.
1 it is not a CHAMPIONS League when 5 teams come out of Spain & 3 or 4 out of England Italy & Germany.
2 Seeding - means that none of these teams play each other until the very latter stages.
3 Last 8 (AGAIN) will be Barcelona, Real Madrid, Valencia Bayern Munich, Leverkusen, Juventus, Chelsea, Man City
there may be a surprise or 2 but that is about it!

Back to the days - all in a pot - first out at home - straight knock out -- it won't ever happen again /I know but hey ho!

07 Aug 2015 10:20:23
How many teams do England have in this year?

07 Aug 2015 15:22:33
cmcbhoy, they have four, three automaticly qualified and one play off. I heard that they could lose a spot to next year if the results dosnt improve.