Celtic Banter Archive June 06 2011

 

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06 Jun 2011 23:27:24
Herad two names that interested me. One was Ricardo Fuller and the other was Piotr Trochowski.
Both are on bosmans and both would be excellent for us IMHO.
Ed007 have you heard anything about either player?

trochowski has signed for sevilla {Ed007's Note - And Ricardo Fuller is sh**e!}

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Agree with ed fuller is pish

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06 Jun 2011 23:19:55
{Ed007's Note -Here is the link to the BBC report regarding Craig Whytes' takeover

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-13675873

I don't think it posted earlier}

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Ed007 now read this and imo this will happen he will get the rest of the shares for nothing he thinks with the advice hes been given they well win. this guy is in a win win situation. small shareholders if someone want them sell them there now worthless this is what this guy does if i have read the report right .also the business end the only thing is how did he fianance were not privvy to any of this big rab by the way real losers small shareholder but to be fair if we went to the wall would have lost them any how not fair but that's whats happens with shares one day worth £5 next nothing {Ed007's Note - How can it be a win win situation for him? He is either going to have to cover the £18m or the pay the HMRC settlement figure + both sides legal fees.. If Rangers go into administration, there will be a points deduction in the league. The guy has done what a lot of people thought and pulled the wool over Rangers supporters eyes and they ignored the warning signs from the old board. Rangers fans have been on here for months banging on about there was no debt, they could afford players etc etc. His projected expenditure on the squad is well short of Rangers fans expectations, you have to admit. This story broke hours ago and it was disregarded by Rangers fans on here because I was producing the evidence, I do not control the BBC or other news networks, so now that the facts have been proven as actual information, Rangers fans still pick holes in it. It is there in black and white (excuse the pun), for any one to see that John Greig and Co were right to doubt this guy}

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If ive read the report right he owns the debt not the bank when he wins the case and he thinks he will he will do a reissue this is what this guy does for a living on the debt if the worse case happens he will claim of the assets but we can still move forward if the old board thought he was going to give them all that money because he claims to be a fan and if fan thought that there deluded on points deducted it the only way celtic will win the league simple as that big rab by the way how he funding it im interested in but only because im nosey {Ed007's Note - All I'v ever said is he was in this to make the most money he can Rab, I think his transfer money input is for his tenure, after 2016 he will be Joseph (Joe Le Toff) with a tidy profit, how he gets to that point I don't think is an issue to him. A points deduction for Rangers (or CFC) would be a disaster to Scottish football at the present time. For some reason though Rab, the amount of "yous have nae money and we have nae debt noo" posts I have to delete has fallen dramatically tonight, any idea how that is by the way}

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Edd07 i have never said any of that all im saying is hes covered the bases he bought rangers for £1 payed the bank of and transfer that debt to a holding company everything else the court case he would have looked at calulated the chance of losing that's why hes holding the debt in case he wrong about winning and as i already said 3-5years he will be gone if he win the tax case he got rangers for 18million and 1 pound if what i said doent make sense explain to me how it isn't win win big rab by the way {Ed007's Note - Paying £18m minimum for a club that is in need of the biggest shake up in its history, even before DM took over. If he has that money in place surely it would have been better invested in the club instead of 4/5 million a year as projected. I said this ages ago and was called a liar, now it is in black and white Rangers fans are looking for more excuses to cover up what has happened. I know you have never harped on about no debt etc, anyone with any sense could see what was happening, and would have waited for evidence to back up their claims. The evidence is in place now, and it doesn't back up any of the bragging about how good a deal it was. I have also asked on numerous occasions on why Rangers fans disregarded the old boards concerns, no one can answer that, if Billy McNeill came out and said openly that something wasn't for the good of CFC I think I would listen to him. Next season when they go to Ibrox I hope they look at John Greigs' statue and murmur to themselves "Sorry big man, you were right"}

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Edd007 like i keep saying the days of over spending are gone he done nothing yet im surprised at at end of the day the control was taken of the banks and its alright to stand on a soap box and say this and that deeds not words and nobody was interested and this year we would have had a squad of 7or8 senior players not good imo tim nice but dim as you call him is anything but at lest the club can buy players if he wins the tax case he laughing like i said win win big rab by the way i havnt to apoligise for anything statements were made and they all lack substance and if the big mans so right about whyte why did he accept a job of him and why did whyte offer him one conspiracy therists join in {Ed007's Note - I could say funny handshakes but that's too obvious lol, John Grieg should be named President of Rangers as a gesture, I've said for years that McNeill should have the same honour at Celtic. We are getting old now, I doubt any our clubs will have many servants like those again. The word legend is used used far too often today, but in Greig and McNeill we have 2 living legends, they won't be around for ever and we should show our appreciation to them them just now, not wait till it is too late like other greats on both sides}

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Edd007 i agree with your last 3 lines happy to help you understand the situation in our hour of need from a business point of view very clever man whyte imo i would bet on rangers winning the tax case 70/30 in betting terms 2/5 but loop hole now fully closed as for the funny hand shakes don't no anything about that never been a member oh ed007 its not often im wrong every thing i say is measured and i look at the facts before opening my mouth and talking nonsense there enough on here happy to help the blind see big rab by the way {Ed007's Note - I remember when supporting your team didn't require a degree in finance!!! That's what you pay accountants for!}

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We our getting old now edd007 are you billy mcneil now that would be sick {Ed007's Note - Nah, I wish! I'm James Bond by the way...}

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Paying accountants that's why i married one big rab by the way thinking of other fringe benefits {Ed007's Note - Pity the Rangers board didn't follow your example Rab, might not be in the mess that they are :-)

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Yeah shold have got them all on a 4 year aat course then in there first year learned all about professional ethics lol big rab by the way

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06 Jun 2011 23:02:31
bhouys the take over happened. rangers will be signing players. just except it. its fact and im sorry to burst your bubble but rangers are gona be at there strongest they have been for a few years now. stronger than they were when they won 3 in a row. i do except you may have trouble coming to terms with this fact but you just need to move on. {Ed007's Note - Check the BBC link below}

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We're goin to be at our strongest aswell idiot. All this burst your bubble, celtic fans are scared, we've got loads of money pi5h does my box in. You've been up against 2 brand new squads the last 2 years. So don't get too excited. Our new players have gelled excellently and all we need now is some finishing touches. Then you can kiss goodbye to 4 in a row.

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Yea like you told us to kiss bye bye to 2. 3. in a row. .in ally the rookie we trust

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06 Jun 2011 22:48:00
i find it very amuseing coming on here and reading some of the post. e.g. the average celtic supporters obsession with a tax issue there mighty rivals have. wouldn't it be more productive to discuss ways of trying to get out of the shawdow of rangers?.seems to me that celtic supporters have allready gave up hope of there football team ever doing it and throwing all there hopes and dreams of the tax man being able to halt rangers in there tracks. thus giving celtic a foot up the ladder. {Ed007's Note - We have spoke about the tax case against Rangers in depth for the first times in months, the only reason it was brought back up was because of the release of Craig Whytes documentation. As for an obsession, may I refer your good self to the months and months of having to hear about a large section of Rangers supporters perverse infatuation with all things Neil Lennon! I can understand Rangers fans being ABC, but their humiliating fixation with ABL is turning into an embarrassment for all decent Rangers fans!}

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I just worried you decide to go for mark hughs and ditch lennon. . lennon must stay.

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06 Jun 2011 22:36:26
WANT A LAUGH READ THE FORCES OF DARKNESS RUMOUR PAGE, THERE LINKING THEMSELVES TO EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY AND THINK THEY WILL SIGN THEM, I NEARLY PI**** MYSELF LAUGHING

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06 Jun 2011 21:35:58
hi Ed im back

REF
It is hard reading but here is a breakdown of it:

rangerstaxcase.com/2011/06/06/rangers-circular-released/

Have look and see what you think guys}

Lets not waffle ceptic fans we will just wait and see if whites cash turns up over the next few weeks during the transfer window. as for the tax claim it has not been established if rangers have actualy done anything wrong but exploit a loop hole within the tax system a loop hole that has been exploited by over a dozen football clubs in britain not to mention some of the biggest companys in the uk also. as for the T*t that is running the blog with the thread Above he states and i quote

"I have access to behind-the-scenes information on Rangers' tax case, and I will use this blog to provide the details of what Rangers FC have done, why it was illegal, and what the implications are for one of the largest football clubs in Britain"


This clown expects everyone to belive that he is privey to the highest level of information within the tax office that is dealing with the case, information that every newspaper in scotland would pay a princely sum for. but he chooses to realese information on some obscure blog GET REAL MAN.

if you belive this then i will publish a blog that say the rangers team for next season will be made up of

Santa, the easter bunny, the tooth ferry, man in the moon, rumple stiltskin, the three bears, humpty dumpty, we willie winkie and Henrick Larrson. then you can all belive that (come to think of it that team will proberly win us 4 in a row)


Tonydom {Ed007's Note - It is an official document from Rangers that he is commenting on, it is there as a PDF file to download. Whyte has took on Rangers debt. It hasn't been paid back yet. After the HMRC case is concluded, if he is successful he will need to pay off the debt to Lloyds, if he isn't successful he has to pay the tax bill, the fine and the Rangers will go into administration because he isn't liable for the debt. He has set up this deal very shrewdly indeed. Must be why so many board members were against it.}

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As i said Ed this blogger states he will use the blog to " provide the details of what rangers have done, why its illegal and the implications" well then where is this so called information because he must be a very clever chap indeed as the HMRC hav'nt managed to decide if it is illegal or not hence the case is still going on plus White is not stupid he is not going to take on the tax man unless he thinks he will win as for the use of the term appeal well the tax man will have spent that much money on this case they will have to say rangers have a case to answer too rangers will appeal and win then everybody is happy except the celtic fans.

you guys know what it is like when you ask the social for a crisis loan they knock you back you appeal then get your cash then its of to the match you go Lol


Tonydom {Ed007's Note - They guy has only went through an officail Rangers document regarding what Craig Whytes takeover and the way it is financially set up, it also includes figures for transfers etc. If they win the appeal he will still need to find the money to pay off the bank, either way he has a bill to pay, to either Lloyds or with HMRC. I've never had a crisis loan in my puff Tony, you seem to know more about them than I do lol}

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Hey Ed don't knock the benefit system if it wasnt for the crisis loan i could never afford to follow the rangers away in europe do you know how many times i lost my wallet the season we got to the final in manchester. ive even got a decal on my boat saying BORN TO FISH FORCED TO COMMIT BENEFIT FRAUD by the way the boats called The Master Baiter.

Tonydom {Ed007's Note - LMAO!!}

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Its funny ed007 how celtic fans wish this to be true and if it was all cut and dry rangers would be gone simple as that rangers made there original offer not because they thought tax was owed because the case will cost millions to defend biggest reason i don't believe him to much cloak and dagger ed007 this guy has been making comment way before the takeover imo it a celtic fan with to much time and a sense of humour big rab by the way {Ed007's Note - Rab, the PDF file shows Craig Whytes documentation.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-13675873

Maybe people will believe the BBC rather than me giving them the bad news. Rangers are still in debt, one way or another they are £18m in debt and have £20m to invest in players until 2016. It is there in black and white for all too see. I have said for months it wasn't so clear cut, I think the Rangers support owe John Greig a MASSIVE apology}

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Edd007 this joker can comment anything he likes and how the deal is set up wasnt his concern 3months ago when he was talking about the tax case now this what your saying is the banks not been payed of and the debt has been transferd to a holding company funny that if its not been payed then its not been transfered got to make up your minds other thing not a single newspaper has picked up on this strange they love this stuff big rab by the way {Ed007's Note - Rab, read this mate:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-13675873

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06 Jun 2011 21:23:30
my mate is pals with aiden mcgeady's cousin and according to him rangers are preparing a bid for stephen mcmanus to replace oap weir, discus. . . .

I am at school with Aiden's cousin, she said he wants to return to the UK as he is finding it hard to understand the language.
Also, how the hell would he know? and this isn't a forum where we discuss stuff.


-CFCBhoy

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06 Jun 2011 20:10:40
celtic team for next season(possibly)
Given
Wilson Boularouhz/Majstorivic Wilson izzy
brown Kayal ledley commons
hooper long/bothroyd
subs:Zaluska, rogne, forrest, claros, mc court, boularouhz/majstorivic, sammy/stokes

Depending if stokes is offered to reading for long. Ed would you be happy to see this team? {Ed007's Note - I am not sure about Given coming especially on loan, and if a decent offer came in for Majstorivic I would be tempted to sell him on}}

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06 Jun 2011 20:21:35
"{Ed007's Note - Craig Whyte has released the long awaited shareholder circular providing an explanation of his company's takeover of the club. Here is a link to the PDF file of it:

www.rangers.co.uk/staticFiles/4d/76/0, , 5 161357, 00.pdf

It is hard reading but here is a breakdown of it:

rangerstaxcase.com/2011/06/06/rangers-circular-released/

Have look and see what you think guys}"

Smoke, Mirrors and Skulduggery spring to mind.

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06 Jun 2011 19:44:27
06 Jun 2011 18:34:24
Eboue to celts!

Some folk are really on the funny ciggies!
Bojan! Piatti! Eboue! Three players that would cost us in the region of around £20M easily.

I'd settle for Westwood, St Ledger, Jiranek, Rooney and Kamara.
Total cost? Nowt, nada, zilch!

Why do so many Celts set themselves up to be let down?

We must deal in real terms and I'm afraid we have at best a chance of signing one, possibly two players for £1-2M. However I think the bulk of the rest of the players we sign will be bosmans or chance finds like Izzy or Kayal.

I for one am not holding my breath waiting on a big name to roll up to Celtic Park.

HH
/BB

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06 Jun 2011 19:27:40
{Ed007's Note - Craig Whyte has released the long awaited shareholder circular providing an explanation of his company's takeover of the club. Here is a link to the PDF file of it:

www.rangers.co.uk/staticFiles/4d/76/0, , 5 161357, 00.pdf

It is hard reading but here is a breakdown of it:

rangerstaxcase.com/2011/06/06/rangers-circular-released/

Have look and see what you think guys}

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The link doesn't work {Ed007's Note - Try the 2nd link, there should be a link on there to the PDF file, sorry}

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I find all this legal jargon to be confusing. It's always set out to be clear but in the process ends up being more vague. I also skim read it so there's a good chance I've misunderstood what they're saying.

However it seems they've pledged money to stabilise the club in terms of maintenence to the ground etc.

I take from it that in terms of transfers they've got £20 million to spend between now and 2016 (3 - 4 million a year) with a maximum £5 million per year coming from the group. I'm assuming they'll be allowed to spend transfer fees recieved but given they're not in a position to offload many players this amount is probably negligible barring the sale of key players on decent contracts (Jelavic, Davis, McGregor).

Not exactly a lot of money. IMO transfers made this summer could be key to future success.

On the other hand they've said very little about how they plan to deal with the debt other than to say it's being dealt with by the group and that any breach of contract in payment then the club will be hit hard. Basically I take from it that the group is dealing with the debt so it gives the club longer to pay up but that it's not been cleared. Don't really understand all the stuff about tax. {Ed007's Note - The debt being cleared all depends on the outcome of the tax case. Mr Whyte uses the word "appeal", after saying there is no case to answer, what are they appealing? I use this site to keep track of it and they explain it in laymans terms:

rangerstaxcase.com/

Note, there is no www in the address}

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06 Jun 2011 19:08:43
05 Jun 2011 17:41:02
Emilio's old coach has told him to go to epl {Ed007's Note - Kerry Katona used to tell us to go to Iceland. What's his old coach got to do with it? Might as well say Brian Laws has told Bougherra to stay at Rangers!
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Izzy's old coach told him to do the OPPOSITE. He was in the Scottish Sun months back telling him that he shouldn't leave Celtic unless it was for Barca, because Izzy is a Barca fan. In training for his old side, Montagua, they used to played Madrid fans against Barca, but now it has become Barca vs. Celtic fans. So this is bull.

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06 Jun 2011 17:38:13
Edd007 To Be Fair The Last Game Barry Played for Villa Was Against Blackburn in the Cup and was MOTM. Didnt Reely Get Chance At Leeds And Helped Bpool Get Promoted ! And When Hes Came On For Scotland Has Been Diff Class On His Debut Again Faroes He Made Darren Fletcher look s**te And Against Walse And Ireland Do What He Had To. {Ed007's Note - I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just think he could do with bulking up a bit, that's all}

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06 Jun 2011 17:36:46
anyone wanting a great laugh take a look at the forces of darkness rumours page and see who there being linked with, laughed so much i nearly pissed myself. {Ed007's Note - I look after the Man Utd site as well. A lot of Rangers fans seem to think that AF looks at a player and thinks "I could buy him to help Rangers out." For some strange reason they think that Man Utd will buy their players at astronomical fees just because AF is the manager. £20m for Jelavic was a very common one, and now Erik Torres???}

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06 Jun 2011 16:24:09
I lurk on the rumours pages when the transfer windows are open, but ffs, it's the same old same old, knuckledraggers coming on and saying 4IAR this and WATP that, who cares, the SPL will come down to a split decision (probably going r****rs way), but there is no one with any sense who would bet their house on the outcome, in fact only knuckledraggers would dare, shows their mentality.

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If u want rumours perhaps go on the rumours page and not the banter one then . . . doh !

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06 Jun 2011 16:21:11
hi ed whats it with the rangers site I went into it 3 times yesterday to ask why they didn't post the link I gave them re the rangers tax situ, remember? surely that's of interest to their fans, if it was me then I would want to know if celtic were pos in trouble but it seems that its the old ostrich head in the sand routine,
wot say you ED?
( although to be fair I havent looked at it today mate )
afternoon ed ma bhoy
marty bhoy {Ed007's Note - I have no control over what the Rangers Editor does, Marty}

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I have had a look at the site in question and if your going to lie and get people to believe you give them your made up qualifications and thirty percent of fact and you have a good fairytale we will all no end of month and even if its was one hundred percent true why are celtic fans going ape over it if roles were reverse i wouldn't care what happened to celtic it wouldn't give me pleasure to see you disapear but at the same time i wouldn't care and im pretty sure when the club was bought they had a very good look at it big rab by the way

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That's cos they are all too busy in here! So much discussion on Rangers in here the last couple of days it's beginning to feel like the Rangers site! Sod off back to your own rumours page! {Ed007's Note - Anyone is welcome here as long as long as it's sensible. Just like Celtic fans are allowed on their site, it help the craic and banter flow if they visit}

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06 Jun 2011 16:09:53
boo stick yer loan deals up yer dungy

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06 Jun 2011 15:14:57
The two Cardiff players Celtic have signed in the last year have both said that they we Told to go to Celtic by Craig bellamy. If he is so keen on players to got to Celtic then why hasn't he went back. He clearly loves the club and I believe is looking to be loaned out again. Anyone think he might listen to his own advice and go back to Celtic ?

Almost sure he would be up for the move and with Lennon in charge now seems like it could be the start of something prety special at the club.

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. . or you can listen to the answer he gives regarding him moving teams . . he just wants to play regularly, be close to his family in wales and get cardiff the team he supports in the EPL. All really strong signs he wants to come north of the border . . . . .

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06 Jun 2011 13:21:52
I'm a Rangers supporter who would like Stokes to go away on a swap deal or something because I think he's a good all round player and goal-scorer. He hasn't got the best attitude but when he signed for Celtic from Hibs he was the signing I thought could be a great player for them most, he isn't like hooper a player who scores tap-ins (that's no disrespect because you need a player like that) But Stokes is a good player and could be good for Celtic if he kept his head down.

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I think ur right in what ur sayin about improving his attitude etc and his goals are often more flamboyant than hoopers but to say hooper only scores tap ins is unfair.
Kevbhoy

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06 Jun 2011 09:25:24
i'll openley admit on here i am a rangers fan and im not on to cause any trouble, i onyl came on for a browse to see who celtic were trying to sign! i do think thou yous do have to except that alot of the guys mentioned below would only go to either of the old firm when champs league is involved, think its going to be twice as hard for lennon this year, think if we sign the right players we will walk the league again.

Also apart from Hooper mabey, i think use shud be looking at a whole new strike force. Finishing behind Kenny Miller and he was only there 6 months doesn't say much about any of them!

Celtic need to do what rangers done and invest 4 or 5 million in 1 crackin striker. Jelavic outweights any player celtic have by miles.

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If hooper was fit the whole season he would have been the spl's top scorer. . easily

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Jelavic does not "outweigh every celtic player by miles". Kris Commons and Izagguire were better signings than him IMO.

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Gary Hooper has scored 20 league goals in 26 league games, Jelavic has scored 16 league goals in 23 league games. That does not look like Jelavic is miles ahead, they are both good players, and both have different strenghts. I hope both of them get a full season this time, and i would like to see Stokes partner Hooper. Though i think stokes has a attitude problem, he has had run ins with Roy Keane, trappatoni, and Lenny. The guy needs to kop himself on, as he seems to think he is better than he actually is. He doesn't seem to realise he will not get a better club than Celtic, he is now at a crossroads in his career. I really hope he sorts himself out, because he could have a good future at Celtic. paddybhoy

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06 Jun 2011 09:02:02
Ian Bankier new Celtic Director. But what does it mean for the club?

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It means you are still runners up!

Billyboy1!

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06 Jun 2011 07:52:36
"06 Jun 2011 01:02:25 Who is Ed007?"

The name's Bond. James Bond.
& no. he's not signing for Celtic :P

Wilbert RFC

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Hes a celtic fan through and through but fair to all that come on here and that's what really matters and of course he likes the banter and not the nonsense which makes him alright in my book big rab by the way {Ed007's Note - Thanks Rab, I had a few posts yesterday calling me all the names under the sun? If I was like that I wouldn't be doing this!}

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06 Jun 2011 01:39:34
you say this. . . .

apparently on twitter shay given was with alan thompson in a pub together agreeing terms heres hoping everything goes ok.

So Celtic fc, one of the financially speaking best run clubs in world football, is sending alan thomson to a pub to thrash out a contract with the highest profile player celtic have been after in a while. . . thommo my son you deserve a pay rise. i think not. Lawell does contracts. . . and i'd bet none have been sealed down the pub. {Ed007's Note - He went from a pub in Belfast to a pub in Dublin in 20 minutes}

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Sounds like the guy has a fair amount of pace - could be the perfect partnership with Berbatov up front. Sign him up. And don't spill the beer.

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06 Jun 2011 00:24:47
05 Jun 2011 17:41:02
Emilio's old coach has told him to go to epl {Ed007's Note - Kerry Katona used to tell us to go to Iceland. What's his old coach got to do with it? Might as well say Brian Laws has told Bougherra to stay at Rangers!}


That would be completely pointless due to the fact Brian laws wasn't bougherras old coach {Ed007's Note -So who was his manager at Sheffield Wednesday?}

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You sir have been claimed.

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