Celtic Banter Archive December 06 2017

06 Dec 2017 21:25:31
I tuned in to talkshit this afternoon while driving and they (Hawksby and Jacob) were bumping their gums as to how wrong it was for teams to parachute out of the Champions League and into the Europa League. No mention of how obscene it was that countries can have 4-5 teams in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE even although they are not champions of their association. Completely avoided THAT and the fact that it is all about MONEY.

06 Dec 2017 22:11:13
just to add to these type iff comment from the media , liverpool got a great result tonight 7-0 and the englush media are saying amazing performance, superb, all the other accolades that go along with a result like this and imo they deserve the praise but not one person saying how bad spartak where and all the other crap they said about celtic after psg and munich games! no wonder i love to see english teams get pumped in europe.

{Ed0333's Note - Or maybe Liverpool were just too good for Spartak and made them look ordinary? And I think it’s fairly evident outside the SPL Celtic aren’t really that good. Correct me if I’m wrong didn’t you lose to PSG and Munich and didn’t set the world on fire with your performances?

06 Dec 2017 22:31:31
truth is tho, Liverpool could go out on Sat/ Sun and get beat by West Brom, Watford, CP etc although they are clearly a "bigger team" than all of those.

06 Dec 2017 22:46:13
I’ll support anyone who’s playing an English team! Love nothing better than seeing those arrogant ***** getting pumped! None of them will win the CL this year and that’s with 5 of them in the last 16! And your first mistake tiny tim was listening to that garbage at all! Let’s face it anybody who employs Barton to talk about football can’t be taken seriously!

06 Dec 2017 23:04:08
Here Ed 033333333 did you fall out with the three button on your computer 😂😂 or get your finger stuck?

{Ed0333's Note - once I started tapping the three button I couldn’t stop myself

07 Dec 2017 06:18:17
Yeh, thanks Ed 033333 for reminding us we have of the lowest budgets for any Champions league team where as English Prem teams have squillions to squander. It's not a level playing field and the gap gets wider every year. If you lot down in Engerlund hadn't got your phoney TV deals you would be playing second fiddle to the other big leagues. We get slated up here for having a huge advantage due to our budget but that's fine, we accept we are too good for Scottish football but the arrogance of your typical Prem supporter is staggering though. Do you believe Crystal Palace or Everton are a bigger club than Celtic with regards to fan base? I don't. I'm not particularly bothered about your over inflated cash rich league but if we were invited in, we would be one of the biggest clubs in the prem, that's a fact and I also think that's what terrifies the PL chairmen. Add to that your cash, the appeal of playing to full houses at a bouncing CP every second week and our veciforous away support, we could attract massive players to play for us. I think we would do quite well thank you very much.
All this is academic though, we are where we are and that's that. We did enough over two legs to get third spot in a group with two of the best teams currently playing in Europe with our wee 'diddy' team. That's fine by me. We are Celtic and we are the greatest club in the world! (in my humble opinion)

{Ed001's Note - there are a number of teams with lower budgets than you, Maribor for instance. If you can't even get simple stuff like that right, how can anyone take the rest of your nonsense seriously? You aren't in the English Prem, so you are not as big worldwide to a TV audience, sadly that is what matters more than a proper fanbase in the modern era. No point even discussing 'what if you get in the English Prem' as you simply are not going to be allowed to get in there. Not only would you need the agreement of the Premier League, Football League, SFA and the English FA, you would then need UEFA to agree to be eligible to compete in Europe, if you then qualified.}

07 Dec 2017 09:19:24
I’ve always thought that was a pipe dream anyway getting to epl, tbh, it’s only the last ten years the money has really started to ruin football in Europe, before that Porto and Monaco competed in a final, sadly this will prob never happen again, I’d like to see teams from the top 5 countries compete against themselves and leave them to it, then teams like PSV Celtic Anderlecht Ajax Benfica Porto Steau Dynamo Kiev etc could all have a chance of winning tournament, a much more even playing field, and the top euro comp. can just let real Barcelona Munich Paris and whatever English team has the most money at the time play one another until their hearts content.

07 Dec 2017 10:14:30
totally totally agree we will never get into the English and Welsh Premier League, never.

If you had £100 in your pocket and someone you dislike walked up and just asked nicely for you to share that - would you. Not a charity case, or for any service.

Yeovil think one day they will get into the E&WPL, so why would they vote to give a bigger team a chance at that spot.

It just simply will not happen.

07 Dec 2017 10:18:35
Cjb a don't think that'll be out the question, uefa would certainly love that. A European league is our only way out of Scotland if that's the route the board would consider.

07 Dec 2017 10:23:02
also a funny observation.

When the Chinese league suddenly started offering ridiculous money for average PL players, the bum squeaking in the E&WPL was audible up here.

Went from best league in the world to "most competitive" and other buzzy words like that.

07 Dec 2017 10:43:56
Half of the EPL is full of awful teams and most of them can't even fill their tiny wee stadiums. It's a joke.

07 Dec 2017 11:14:43
Did Everton not get pumped 5 - 1 at home by the mighty Atalanta you know the giants of Italian football. didn't hear all the drama attached with the heaviest defeat at home by a European lightweight, talk about Embarrassing for the English League. Rather lose to a Fantastic side. Maybe if Celtic draw them in the Europa if possible this can be settled.

07 Dec 2017 14:47:58
yes kwaj

along with Chelski v PSG and Man City v Munchen, that would most certainly put it all to bed.

06 Dec 2017 20:46:23
I thought Rodgers got it spot on yankin Sinclair and Posh Boy at half time. One thing I thought he got wrong was young French lad should have started after his hat trick at weekend. I would also have played Ajer and still think Boyata is Effes twin.

06 Dec 2017 20:59:08
Last game against Anderlecht, Boyata was arguably our best player and I am sure that coupled with the fact how poor Ajer was in hist last European appearance.

It is easy to say Ntcham should have played instead of Armstrong, after the match but Rodgers played the team who thought would get the result. Unfortunately, too many under performed and Anderlect played well.

06 Dec 2017 21:03:21
Anderlecht did indeed play well RAW and we didn't show up. ☘️.

06 Dec 2017 21:49:11
We seem to have a lot of players who are not playing as well as they were last season.
Dembele and Roberts have been very injury prone this year, whilst the likes of Armstrong, and Sinclair have been well below the levels we saw previously.
I'm hoping that this break in January might be what is needed to give the players a rest, and also to help some of the injuries to get cleared up.

06 Dec 2017 18:11:10
Hi boys. So on the Liverpool page we've started a thread about a charity football match in the summer of 2018, held in the midlands.
Eds 1 and 2 will be the arm chair managers of the two teams in which we will aim to live stream the match on the sites.
There will be a cut off after the first 50 entries, at which point the usernames will be passed onto the eds for them to pick their teams (15 each)
It will be £35 per player, so we raise over a thousand pounds for the eds charities.
If interested, please email benjaminallen1991@hotmail.co.uk and include
Real name
Username
Age
Position
1 strength
1 weakness

get in touch asap.

Cheers.

06 Dec 2017 21:46:08
Good on you Benny baller.

06 Dec 2017 22:37:42
Real name Digi Banger
Username digibanger
Age too old for this chet
Position in the kitchen
1 strength mon the teams, good luck lads
1 weakness I can't say Floridian.

06 Dec 2017 15:22:29
Right guys here is a question.
How much do you all think guys like Sutton Hartson Thompson Lambert and so on would cost in today's markets?

06 Dec 2017 15:27:21
We probably couldn’t afford their wages to get them.

06 Dec 2017 15:56:06
I would imagine you could get them for free as they look past it now.

06 Dec 2017 12:11:44
Ed this is just to check if there's a problem at ma side. 6/ 12/ 17 12:12.

{Ed007's Note - That's came through no bother mate. Any problems in the future drop me an e-mail or get in touch with Ed033 using the Contact Us button at the bottom of the screen and we'll get it sorted.}

06 Dec 2017 12:31:19
Sound.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

06 Dec 2017 12:48:35
Thanks for your help. Had ma son at his first champions league group game last nite, what a gutless performance. Had high hopes for a great night but it was a damp squib. He still enjoyed himself but a was looking for a great performance wae the atmosphere to match it, wasn't to be a suppose.

{Ed007's Note - It was disappointing to lose to an OG, I think if it had finished 0-0 people might look at it a bit different today. At least the wee man enjoyed the atmosphere.}

06 Dec 2017 20:15:04
Hi Eds did u see BRs interview post match last night it's the first time I seen him not answer a question before when was asked about the gulf in financies between us and other so called lesser Europian clubs his response was that's not for tonight. First time I've seen BR fluster could this be a sign for us in regards to the way we will be shopping in Jan and not spending as much as he wants too?

{Ed007's Note - Rodgers knew the financial constraints he would need to work with. I think people are trying to read something else from the obvious disappointment at the result and performance. It isn't even a year since Rodgers signed a four-year contract and every target that was set is on course to be met, European football after Christmas, defend the League Cup and have a healthy lead in the league AND we've kept the unbeaten run going to 67 domestic matches.}

06 Dec 2017 23:05:09
It was good to see that wae BR and from what I read from CG that the players got the message. My question to you ED is what if any new players do u think may come in this Jan?

{Ed007's Note - The only one I'd say is a certainty is a CB probably to replace Sviatchenko. Would we need another midfielder if Armstrong left in January?}

07 Dec 2017 09:17:07
I don't think we need anyother midfielders we definitely need CB but the rest just need to wake up and if needing a rest use the squad players we have surely give them a run will help the team. Reports coming out today say no big spending for us in Jan but do we need to?

06 Dec 2017 09:15:23
A poor performance last night and for once i will say BR got it wrong. Sinclair looked like he was playing CM and Armstrong out wide it did not work. Why did we not reward the players who did so well on Saturday? Yes Anderlecht are a different level to Motherwell but if these players are not expected to play at CL or EL level then why are they at the Club. Ntcham has been playing magnificent yet dropped, he made a massive difference when on excellent passing and as always not afraid to go for goal from distance. Edouard scores a hat-trick yet dropped, he look energetic when he came on. Ajer was composed and confident yet dropped, Boyata could not play a 10 yard pass to feet last night and every clearence went to an Anderlecht player, Ajer must be confused as to why he can't be relied upon to step in at this level. It pains me to see us perform this way in Europe but there also has to be a sense of realism we are possibly the Club with the lowest budget in the entire competition. Unless BR is given a budget similar to what Martin Oneill was given then we are going to find it hard to compete even at EL level. The fact is most other Clubs have Billionaires willing to dip into their own pockets to achieve success, we are trying to do it by living within our means, it will work in Scotland but not in Europe. The break can't come quick enough because there is an abundance of players who look tired and in urgent need of a break, now is the time to freshen things up in the SPL and we should not be afraid to drop players. We now have Hibs at the weekend and i really hope we give starts to Edouard, Ntcham, Rogic, Kouassi, Ajer, and even young Johnston, we need to freshen things up and if that means dropping last seasons star players then so be it we have a Title to win.

06 Dec 2017 11:07:47
All fair points Stan.

Firstly, I'm delighted with us getting into the Europa but last night, and for a wee while actually, we haven't looked anything like our best.

Ntcham and Rogic, for me, have to be in the starting XI. I would really like to see game time for Kouassi, Edouard and Ajer also. There's a few players in the side right now who seem to be getting picked regardless of performances and the three I've mentioned there are knocking on the door now.

As for the injections of real quality, we can keep saying it buddy but it won't happen.

06 Dec 2017 11:54:56
Some good points Jim Tim. agree totally that Kouassi and Ajer need to be given a chance! Far to many players getting picked on last years form, Sinclair and Armstrong being the main 2! I think both need rested for a few weeks! And I’ve said before I like big Ajer and the boys got a big future! The team needs freshened up because there’s more than a few who look like theyr running on empty! Would have took Europa League all day long after the group We got and after a nite calming down a bit (apologies again to welsbhoy lol) I can see that achieving Europe after Xmas is good! Just thought we went out with a whimper last nite! A real good chance to get a win under our belts and give us some confidence going into the EL, not to mention the money u get for a win! But it was so flat and uninspiring last nite! Winter break can’t come Kwik enough lol!

06 Dec 2017 11:58:15
We will never be able to attract already established real quality. We don't have the cash for that, but we certainly have the resources to get decent/ better than we have.

Our defence is a shambles at CL level. Boyata and Lustigs passing is woeful at times and always dangerous. Gordon was excellent last night but he too gives you heart attacks

Rogers needs to sort out the midfield and give players a run in place of those clearly out of form. Rogic and Ntcham on current form need to play.

We have qualified from the hardest group and that is great we all know if it had been that team who turned up in Anderlecht we would have been out on our arses over there too.

We have made another £3m for qualifying and gate and TV money will boost that by possibly another £3m. This on top of the circa £33m from being in it, now needs to be invested.

Dugs in the street know where we are weak. We fecked up with not sorting out defence in the summer. That coupled to still a gap in a driving no 10 and a better keeper needs looked at.

At the start of this campaign I would have tore your arm out of it socket for this outcome. To me we need to accept tankings and use the money to reduce their severity.

We have indeed taken the tankings, but up until now using the money to reduce them hasn't happened. Rogers, his back room staff, the board and the fans know this team are probably at the limit of their ability. That could change with three or four players giving us stability at the back and a threat from midfield.

Over to you Brendan and your brilliant scout guy. This is your test. Can you find what we need within the budget you have?

Remember though, we are £40 million to the good. We qualified. And everyone who hates us will be fecking spewing at that. £40m to improve at Euro level means the rest will never catch us unless we self destruct.

January window will tell us if the board just like to talk of ambitions to be a CL level team, or actually do something about it.

Sore one, but not unexpected, by me anyway.

06 Dec 2017 13:16:53
I agree with you regarding Sinclair Lh86. I said before the last PSG game (not that it would have made much difference) that I would drop Sinclair. He's been an absolute passenger for us in Europe, and after all, is that not what we shelled out on him for, to take us to the next level. Question is with Roberts out who do we really ha e for the wide berths? Lustig also looks like he's heading over the hill at RB. Hopefully Ralston gets back soon and gets a few games I haven't quite made my mind up on him yet.

05 Dec 2017 23:57:33
look all the doom and glumm we did enough to if we neaded to win im 100 we would have.

06 Dec 2017 00:51:30
Was that just a bad day at the office or do we need to go shopping in Jan for more than we wanted too. Cause I thought we only needed a CH in this window. But apart from what we need after no getting on the night where does that leave Griff?

06 Dec 2017 01:32:40
Soooooooooooooo reminded me of the game at Parkhead after we had beaten Ajax 3-1 away. The team didn't know what to play for tonight. Ultimately, job done! Team definitely needs invigorating and a bit of a refresh. We should partly fund this by punting Simunovic. we are not that good that we can carry players. If no fit. get rid.