Celtic Banter Archive March 05 2019

 

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05 Mar 2019 21:57:53
Looks like the rat Brendan will be gutted tonight as his third favourite team after Celtic and Leicester maybe looking for a new boss Real Madrid pumped by Ajax? The if Ajax can compete why can’t celtic brigade will be on soon banging their drums?

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06 Mar 2019 10:54:52
To be fair bigp Ajax's model is something we should aspire to. I was saying around about the time BR came in actually that I would love us to get Overmars in (not that I could realistically see it) because of the job he and his staff do there. I think, with a new manager needed in the summer, and Congerton reportedly set to leave, an area we should be looking at is a DoF/ Sporting Director with a real footballing mind. We have some good kids on our books right now but there's room for improvement in terms of youth development/ recruitment.

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06 Mar 2019 11:40:17
JimTim I think that would be a great way forward.

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06 Mar 2019 12:13:29
There has been talk of us (and Scotland) copying the Ajax/ Dutch model since the days of Johan Cruyff, when both Ajax and Feyenoord were winning the European Cup, but the closest we ever got was Wim Jansen.
The Netherlands have been leading the way for small countries developing and producing great teams/ players for a long time.

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06 Mar 2019 13:29:31
Its not just Ajax but Porto have a similar model and Salzburg are the same in some respects - although more buying young talent then sell on for massive mark up.

Look at Sancho, left for.

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05 Mar 2019 21:43:48
Ed. do you think lawell is tight fisted and just trys to make him and the board money. Or do you think he really has celtic at heart and trys to run us in the right way so wee do not get carried away and end up like sevco.

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{Ed007's Note - I know it sounds like I'm sitting on the fence but I think it's a bit of both but that's what his job is. He's tasked to make the Club (and shareholders) money and keep the Club at the top in Scotland & delivering European football. Just remember that Peter Lawwell only does what the board tells him to do.}

05 Mar 2019 22:18:33
Thats something iv always wonderd why does lawell always get the greif he gets when its desmond and a few others who run the show. There billionaires for a reason and its not with splashing money around. I think wee spend okay for the standard of league wee play in. feel wee could push the boat a small bit at times.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd agree with that mate, the odd splash of cash like Edouard or even Ntcham gives the supporters, and team, a boost.}

05 Mar 2019 22:44:11
The reason Lawwell has lasted more than 15 years as CEO for Celtic is because he is carrying out his duties obeying D D and the Board . P L has never sought popularity from the fans, he doesn't need it .
PL obeys the Board at all times and he knows that if a dispute arises between him and manager he can be confident of Board support.

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05 Mar 2019 22:57:19
He only gets the grief, because all football supportersare are idiots when it becomes a choice between buying a supposed superstar or balancing books, how many want to buy the superstar get into the champions League, make mucho millions, then balance the books, and put the extra revenue into developing young players, when in reality, the superstar turns out to be someone like Pena or Cascarino or Scheit or whoever, and there is no qualification for the champions League, but there is still huge wages to be paid for said superstar, and then the books don't look like they are going to balance, and you become very Close to taking out a loan, and maybe you do, I think Lawwell has to be commended for the way Celtic is being run,

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05 Mar 2019 23:17:15
Lawwell is there for the board no doubt about that as ed says long as were top in Scotland (which tbf is all I care about) then job done. Dermot intervenes now and again over the top hence Rodgers appointment and Keane signing. Here one for u all beat in Scotland or chase a European dream?

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06 Mar 2019 13:24:15
Domestic dominance.

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06 Mar 2019 13:25:46
Welshy by default if we chase a European dream we should have a squad that is capable of Scottish domination.

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06 Mar 2019 13:39:24
Both 😂.

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06 Mar 2019 18:58:00
Aindoh. Loans should not be an option when you have billionaires on are board.

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{Ed007's Note - It doesn't work like that, no matter who's on the board we still have to comply with the FFP Regs mate. Dermot Desmond can't just turn round and say there's £50 million for this summer and I'll give you another £50m in January.

Clubs can spend up to €5million more than they earn per assessment period (three years). However it can exceed this level to a certain limit, if it is entirely covered by a direct contribution/payment from the club owner(s) or a related party. This prevents the build-up of unsustainable debt.

The limits are:
• €45m for assessment periods 2013/14 and 2014/15
• €30m for assessment periods 2015/16, 2016/17 and 2017/18

In order to promote investment in stadiums, training facilities, youth development and women’s football (from 2015), all such costs are excluded from the break-even calculation.

So at best all the board could give us was circa £8.5 million a season per season which sound a lot but in my limited knowledge it would have a negative effect when it comes to the share price/Club value etc. and would need to be shown in the accounts.
Why does a successfully run company with money in the bank need donations from shareholders or the board?}

06 Mar 2019 20:11:27
Im meaning wee should not have to fall back on loans if things go pear shaped with no qualify for europe after splashing the cash. But i understand what you mean ed its a shame wee have billionaires who are only aloud to give us limited amounts of cash. Why does city get to spend what they spend. Were are a far bigger club. Why is there billionaires aloud to run riot in the transfer market. Surely the celtic brand is more popular than the city brand world wide.

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{Ed007's Note - Clubs like City and PSG get round the rules by the owners companies etc sponsoring the team for extortionate rates. Now if Dermot wanted to give us £50 million to have Sandy Lane Resorts on our shirt there would be no problem.}

05 Mar 2019 19:48:59
I don't know about anyone else but I can't wait for the game on Saturday.
Back in paradise to support the team and welcome back Lenny in pursuit of our REBEL TREBLE.
Let's show certain people what they are missing.

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05 Mar 2019 19:12:53
Bayo scores his first goal for the hoops.

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05 Mar 2019 20:14:17
Lesser spotted Marvin also appears to have put 90 in.

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05 Mar 2019 20:31:11
Sounds like he played well mally.
Marvins played the last few reserve games phil.

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05 Mar 2019 20:44:33
Is he contracted until end of this season kev.

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05 Mar 2019 20:53:22
Contracted until end of next season I'm sure.

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05 Mar 2019 20:56:43
Bayo also set up a goal for Aitcheson and hit the post with a free kick. Looking forward to him getting some game time time in the first team real soon.

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06 Mar 2019 06:07:23
Heard a few weeks ago Compper played a reserve game and was the stand out. We can’t judge as we have t seen him but that’s about 3/ 4 on the trot now.

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05 Mar 2019 19:08:00
Anybody think wgs would be a good dof bags of experience and knows the club.

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05 Mar 2019 19:25:27
Mally I fhink WGS was under appreciated. He has sussed 🐀out. Did you see his article on Pedro de Lawell?

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05 Mar 2019 19:59:51
What article jfp.

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05 Mar 2019 20:37:34
Nelly, Gordon Strachan speaking about how Peter Lawell knocked back Arsenal stating he was a Celtic man.

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05 Mar 2019 20:45:17
Mally *.

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05 Mar 2019 21:47:29
Correction JFP, he stated he was a ‘real’ Celtic man.

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05 Mar 2019 22:53:48
Cheers mate.

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05 Mar 2019 23:33:51
You just need to look back at WGS recent tenure as Scotland manager, to see he is not fit to be in any sort of management or DoF position, in any football club with any sort of ambition to be successful, the guy is useless, an educated fool in football terms, he knows every theory, every position, every counter position, every zone, every zonal positioning, every reaction to every possible action, football is a simple game, Gordon, think about when you were wee kicking a ball about muirhouse, you didn't need anyone to tell you how to play the game, it was in your head, already, it doesn't matter how many books you read, how many coaching courses you go on, how many different countries you went to
You already knew.

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06 Mar 2019 02:17:24
Aindoh aye he knows nothing about football despite being a professional player and manager and getting Celtic to the last 16 twice with an atrocious defence.

He's a far better manager than Rodgers.

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06 Mar 2019 06:09:45
He came in and done a job for us! Will always thank him for that! I’m in the minority but I like GS as a manager and he wouldn’t have shafted us like the rat done.

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06 Mar 2019 08:57:10
He won 6 trophies against a financially doped cheat g oldco so that's nonsense and as pointed out 2 last 16 of cl.

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06 Mar 2019 09:24:28
WGS was a really good manager for us, he would probably have won another title if we had brought in Fletcher instead of Willo Flood.

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06 Mar 2019 18:15:29
WGS knows very little about football compared to Aindoh . Aindoh is the only fan that I know who can argue about how well a team has played after watching the game on the radio. Like the rest of us WGS needs to be at the match or at least watch match on TV, to have opinion on team or match.

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05 Mar 2019 18:43:18
Ed fair play to Pedro de Lawell there can't be many clubs who get their managers three years wages refunded in full plus interest when they go eh? Could be another banner required from Welshy 'YOU COST US NOTHING BRENDAN - THANKS FOR THE FREE MEMORIES!

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05 Mar 2019 18:53:22
PS: great article on BRexit by Desmond Kane ‘Brendan Rodgers cashed in his integrity to leave Celtic a morally bankrupt manager’.

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05 Mar 2019 21:30:50
Agree, best i have read.

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05 Mar 2019 12:05:34
ED007 a couple of questions, if I may.
Firstly, and this is not included in my questions, I heard from 2 "Celtic men" (NOT a steward LOL) that the final total Leicester paid Celtic was £9m (£6m Rodgers, £3m for backroom staff) Is this near what you heard?

Here are my questions, will the Board now sanction the signing of any new players under Lennon or will they wait until a permanent boss is in place?
Club now have funds to get a big name european manager, but do you think Board, ie Lawwell, will go with cheaper option of Lennon, Kennedy and Duff. My thinking being, a new manager will want a decent transfer budget whereas Lennon will not ask for too much and do as he is told by Pedro.

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{Ed007's Note - I had heard it was £8 million in total - £6m for Rodgers and £1m each for Davies and Toure) but what's a wee million between friends lol
The board have to sanction spending money on players when you consider the players that will be leaving in the summer or that look like leaving. The news Congerton is leaving blows the transfer system at the Club out the water and he'll need to be replaced ASAP for the new man to start tracking/scouting targets unless Pedro's still going to offer the new manager Congerton's 'list' to choose from. Obviously any new manager will have some of his own targets too.
As things stand just now I will be really surprised if Lennon isn't our next manager but I can't see Lawwell letting him spend £9 million on one player, I do think he will be allowed to spend roughly the same as Rodgers bar Edouard.
Lennon will be anything but Lawwell's yes-man, if it's anything like the last time he'll be a pain in the @rse to him. Lennon's as frank and honest in private as he is in public and isn't scared to speak his mind.}

05 Mar 2019 13:59:20
If we can get a top class replacement for Congerton and get a first team coach in of same calibre (I would love to see someone like Joe Jordan) , then I genuinely believe we will go even further with Lennon in charge than what we have achieved under Rodgers.

A good backroom set up and we will be laughing. Hopefully get Congerton replacement quickly so we can strenghen in summer before any Europe qualifiers.

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05 Mar 2019 14:02:41
I know you previously said you weren't keen on Lennon being the manager but have you changed your mind at all Ed? I'm guessing Lennon would want certain assurances from Lawwell up front. Wasn't the reason for Lennon leaving last time because of a bust up with PL?

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{Ed007's Note - Lennon left because he didn't have much input in signings if any at all, I'd assume that would be spoke about if and when Lennon is offered the job. I haven't changed my mind, I would still rather see the board show the same kind of ambition that brought Rodgers here.}

05 Mar 2019 16:06:35
I am on the fence. Appointing any manager has it's risks so at least with NL we know what he can bring to the table. If he gets the better of SG in the league and Cup (if they get thro) that would be enough in my book to earn at least a rolling 12 month deal. Plus See if he can sign a Centre Half! BR couldn't get that right over 2.5 years.

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05 Mar 2019 17:49:02
The appeal of Rodgers as manager must have brought most of our big signings in recent years to the club. I can’t see Lennon being a hug bargaining tool. Maybe signing Lennon will play right into lawwells hands as he will get his way with spending. I assume a shortlist will be brought up and I can’t imagine Desmond wanting anyone lesser than Rodgers either. Lawwell needs to deliver in this case. Our scouting setup is key. If we ever had the same level as the RedBull teams then we would be on to a winner. They follow a similar philosophy to our signing policy so surely we can do the same. They’ve brought in highly sought after haland as Dabburs replacement. For a measly €4m. Good business.

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05 Mar 2019 18:20:51
KenLikeEh Lennon signed Van Dijk and look what he has went onto achieve. End of the day we have a knack of signing some hidden gems who have moved onto bigger things. We will continue to do so regardless of who is in charge.

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05 Mar 2019 18:43:31
I don’t know if I agree KenLikeEh. I think Rodgers being manager would have appealed to Sinclair having worked with him before. But take Dembele for example. The deal to sign him was well in motion before Rodgers arrived and I doubt it was the appeal of playing under Ronnie Deila the brought Moussa. I still think the appeal of playing for Celtic hold some water in certain quarters.

Sure we don’t have the financial power of the major European leagues and the SPL is not he most competitive but I believe playing for Celtic, competing for silverware and playing European football is still an attractive option for players.

Oli Burke in his press conference after the hearts game was quizzed by a reporter asking if due to Brendan leaving would he have second thoughts about extending his stay beyond this season if it was a possibility. His response “ I love it at Celtic it’s a privilege to play for this club and I’m really enjoying my football. So as far as I’m concerned personally nothing has changed I love it here and I don’t care who the manager is”

A similar question was put to Shved about the manager now leaving and he said nothing changes as it’s Celtic he signed for.

I believe it still appeals to certain players to come and play for Glasgow Celtic no matter who is in charge 🍀.

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05 Mar 2019 19:46:30
Spot on ice man. Totally agree. I think I could have summed up my post by saying that I believe there is much room for improvement throughout our club. Deila brought us Ajer too. We all know how good he will be one day.

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05 Mar 2019 20:30:55
Big name signings? That’s the problem with hallf our support forget that phrase cos it’s not happening. As for attracting any players were Celtic the name history and everything associated with us sells us any player who knocks us back I’m not interested their loss.

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07 Mar 2019 13:12:02
Do you think Congerton's departure would have been influenced by Lennon's arrival or has he resigned/ been told to leave by Lawwell for a different reason? HH.

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07 Mar 2019 13:11:14
I think that part of the decision on who the next manager is might be based on what revenue the club can bring in off the pitch.
The last time Lennon was in charge the season ticket sales started to drop, I don't know if this would happen again but football being what it is these days I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of shirt and season ticket sales plays as much a part of any decision as what success on the field any manager may achieve.

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05 Mar 2019
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Relax, He said he would return some day

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05 Mar 2019 09:47:59
"God bless us everyone" I think you could be displaying signs that you are a prophet Tiny Tim :-)

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