Celtic Banter Archive January 05 2017

05 Jan 2017 22:53:40
Hi guys,

First time posting and it could be a dangerous subject But imo I would jump at the chance of £20m/ £25m for one of our player. I know we need to have ambition (retain our best players) but surely some things are to good to refuse.

Be gentle.

HH.

05 Jan 2017 23:07:30
I don't think any offer has been made, however, if there were to be one made it really is all about Celtic being brave enough to knock it back. You would have to applaud if they finally showed some real ambition and guile. Be brave i would say, we could get really silly money if the boy keeps going the way he has.

06 Jan 2017 07:11:47
£20m is nothing these days. Villa spent £15mil on Kodija and £14mil on McCormack in the Summmer, 2 players who had never played higher than the Championship. Dembele has succeeded at that level and now at champions league level while also scoring 5 against them, a few for france u21s and goals in cup semi/ final. Plus he's only 20! Teams won't just be paying for current ability they'll be paying for future potential. I'd say we are on a par with Basle in terms of budget, big fish in small pond etc. They sold Breel Embolo to Schalke for £25mil in the summer. Dembele is worth at least £30mil.

06 Jan 2017 10:04:37
West Ham have apparently upped their offer for Jermaine Defoe to £13 million. Defoe is 34. If they are willing to pay that for someone who probably last no longer than this season and next for them, they can treble their offer for Moussa!

06 Jan 2017 10:08:13
Why are we even contemplating a bid for Dembele.

06 Jan 2017 10:28:18
I totally agree - even if they offered £60 million, if still say no - he can help get to the champions league again, and hopefully, make an impact in the group stages, which will more than compensate financially and in the meantime, his value will only continue to saw.
I was only pointing out that their comparative values of Defoe against Dembele were nothing more than insulting.

06 Jan 2017 11:14:40
Agreed in principle RM17 that we need to accept we're a shop window for EPL and that that should be our business model ie. find raw talent and nurture it then punt it at the right price with sell on clauses as we did with VVD and Wanyama etc. But agree with the troops it's too early to even consider a bid for Big Dembelle the Hunskelper! Few seasons and plenty of time for that. We need to get the balance right in getting the best out of them first for a few seasons or BR is just a glorified scout 🍀

06 Jan 2017 11:23:24
Like all of us I always want to keep our best players as long as possible and find it disappointing when we lose someone to diddy English teams who flirt with relegation or hope for a decent cup run in between perennial mediocrity - just as long as they can be paid enormous wages.
Unfortunately thanks to the piss-poor standard in Scotland and the lack of competition and the pittance paid by SLY, we are onto plumbs when a significantly big offer is made.
The situation is even harder to take when the player has made no indication or desire to leave, but the offers are accepted nonetheless because of desperation or lack of ambition. Hopefully BR can influence things differently?

06 Jan 2017 11:27:35
Good points there LM. I was talking to a mate who asked me about price for Dembele, if he was sold who would I want etc. Embolo was the name and price I quoted as he's the most similar replacement I could think of. It's all pie in the sky atm, I just hope if any bids do come in the club show a bit of resolve as his price tag is only going to go up.

06 Jan 2017 11:50:57
@PT-perennial mediocrity- I liked that! Could see me hoovering that one up and passing it off as ma own. Did anybody ever write a song called a wee bhoys dream that said 'I dreamt I played for Bournemouth? '. PS: Think I bettered you're description of Biton yesterday though and appreciated you appreciated that 😀👍🍀

06 Jan 2017 01:58:46
Ed, it is interesting that Celtic Supporters fluctuate between believing we are one of the worlds biggest clubs, to suddenly experiencing Orgasmic pleasure at the thought of 20 Million pounds being bid for one of our players.
I am a pragmatic and realistic person personally and socially. I understand the temptation to accept such a seemingly astronomical amount for any player in our league, but I would urge caution!
First of all, I do not think any club would start bidding with a Scottish club at 20 million.
Secondly, I would hope that as a club we are now at the stage, with a recognised, sought after manager, a turnover coveted by 90% of clubs in Europe and a history second to few, that we can at last dictate our terms to supposed suitors.
Thirdly. The days of supposedly big clubs from the utopia of England courting our talent for bargain basement fees should be over!
I hope The powers that be in our club have ambitions on a par with the supporters, and that the future is one of competition and not submitting.
Ed, to summarise, I hope you agree, we have to accept that there are bigger leagues and a few bigger clubs, but we can still compete, by buying wisely, building sensibly and asking clubs if their 20 million bid is in Lira!

06 Jan 2017 15:52:16
I'd personally be gutted if they accepted that bid, which I don't think for a minute they will. The other point is dembele had multiple options during the summer including spurs who are a much better option than West Ham . After him personally saying he is both very happy at the club and came to get game time, champions league experience and experience of winning things, I personally don't think he would contemplate moving to them. He seems like he has his head screwed on regarding his career and can obviously see us as a stepping stone to a massive club. Not a tin pot club like them. When he leaves us I presume it's going to be a real top side . ( and for bigger money than 20 million

07 Jan 2017 14:10:07
I think the point is - would it be a good move to sell moussa if the price is right?
For me if a bid of 30 to 40 million came in then the club should sell, on the provision that the cash is re invested (a big if)

Remember when bitton was going to be a £12 million man
Izzy and Kayal £10 million? What did / will we end up getting?

If the money from; CL revenue, the VVD sell on, increased revenue, normal transfer budget plus Moussa? That would be some war chest. (Roberts, McCarthy, new striker, GK? )

As a supporter I want him to stay, BR to continue to progress the team and hopefully do something special maybe Europa league final?
However if Moussa will wants to go at some point we won't be able to stop him so maybe accepting a massive bid is the smart move?

Either way it's a good problem to have - keep a top drawer striker or have a massive amount to transform a whole team.

Hail Hail

05 Jan 2017 20:44:34
So it seems Dembele is worth £20m, not bad for a thirteen year old.
Wonder what price is put on MOUSA lol.

05 Jan 2017 21:00:49
As the great jock stein would say " £20m? What game do you want him for"

05 Jan 2017 21:25:01
you beat me to it mick, that was the famous time real madrid phoned him and said we will give you 100,000 for jimmy johnstone and big jock said certainly which game do you require him for? lol. what a man the greatest attack minded manager ever in the history of football.

05 Jan 2017 21:32:16
Nice one tim.

05 Jan 2017 21:58:15
Jamesbhoy:
Completly agree bud, I like the quote aswell about the rangers fan who told him he only won the european cup because he had 3 protestants in he's team, he turned round said to the guy well your team had 11 and still couldn't win it.

05 Jan 2017 22:49:45
dembele will do a lot better than west ham in 18 months time he and the team will have developed he can go to a real top side and we get the right fee everyone happy ps scott allan waste of talent you can't give them desire and workrate sadly.

05 Jan 2017 16:52:32
Hi Ed, hope you have had a good start to the new year mate?

Just read on Daily Rankers on line mate


I know I am away mate but "West ham reveal they have bid on there web site they have bid 20 million for a player in Scotland West ham stopped short of revealing the identity of the player but WE can reveal it is Moussa Dembele! "

Are they sure its not Barry McKay mate 😂😂🍀? (y)

05 Jan 2017 16:44:48
West Ham have bid £20M for Dembele according to DR. Tell them to jog on!

05 Jan 2017 16:50:22
Jog on indeed. He'll do much better than west ham eventually.

05 Jan 2017 16:52:25
So it begins. Can't blame them for low-balling 😃. I wouldn't sell him now, for that. We can get more out of him in the hoops, and in time, more out of his suitor.

05 Jan 2017 17:15:16
is there any actual offer confirmed by either club?, don't believe it maself, why bid 20 mill when the EPL lowball us all the time.

05 Jan 2017 17:26:34
Am wae u bhoywonder just don't believe the record. Never have never will. Until it's confirmed by one of the club's or ed.

05 Jan 2017 17:33:06
W. H have confirmed on their own web page that they have bid 20m for a player from Scotland. Id say that's pretty much all you need tbh.

05 Jan 2017 17:50:54
Saying that I heard bilic is a big effe ambrose fan if carlsberg done transfer windows.

05 Jan 2017 18:06:33
Shug . You say West Ham site say they've made a £20m bid for a player from Scotland . For all we know it might be McKay or even Garner ✅.

05 Jan 2017 18:48:01
also says player from scotland, not player from scottish league, could be rhodes, mcormack etc.

05 Jan 2017 19:09:36
efe? lol.

05 Jan 2017 20:08:08
Do you think rhodes or mccormack are worth 20m
More than one paper reporting its dembele. However as ed has said its under their "insider" section on the page so how "official" is that. i suppose it will all come out in the wash.

05 Jan 2017 20:14:33
Maybe its a typo and we are paying WH 20 mil to take efe.

05 Jan 2017 20:14:39
Me? 🍀.

05 Jan 2017 12:12:48
Is there any other club that can boast as many ex keepers all playing in the top tier of English football?

Forster
Marshall
Boruc.

05 Jan 2017 12:33:29
Craig Gordon will be another sooner or later.

05 Jan 2017 12:52:42
Is marshall better than Gordon. .?

05 Jan 2017 14:32:51
Don't think Gordon will go back south. I suspect if he doesn't go straight into coaching he will end up back at hearts.

05 Jan 2017 14:35:14
Dont see Gordon going back to prem.

05 Jan 2017 14:35:58
Marshall is better shop stopper imo.

05 Jan 2017 14:45:03
Bit harsh on Gordon PT? Apart from (1) the occasional Kung-Fu kick to the opponents head (2) getting beat at near post on the odd occasion and (3) distribution that makes Pat Bonners look and Craig as if he's got his wellies on the rang feet-I still think he's a good shot shot stopper and keeper all round. I know Ed and many don't agree but id certainly wish to recruit central midfielder to help Broonie out and a spare striker before another keeper 🍀.

05 Jan 2017 14:53:06
*Pat Bonners look good.

05 Jan 2017 15:21:44
How is it harsh JFP? I was pointing out he had played in the EPL prior to Celtic and - at his age - he will leave us, sooner or later.

05 Jan 2017 15:46:11
Sorry PT-I misinterpreted your point. Apologies. Personally I'd like him to stay 🍀.

05 Jan 2017 18:15:34
How anyone can think replacing a gk isn't a priority is beyond me.

I can almost guarantee before the end of season we will be talking about another GK blooper. (Although better in recent weeks)

Absolute priority in the summer.

06 Jan 2017 09:45:51
Tick u can almost guarantee that wae any keeper, but a do think we need to be looking at least.

06 Jan 2017 10:06:00
Not consistently you can't!