Celtic Banter Archive January 05 2015

05 Jan 2015 22:49:49
After seein wee henderson the night I don't see why we need 2 shell out money for armstrong cause this lad will be better than him with a run of games, rather strengthen the defence, lb and striker 'IF' we do spend that is

Gunniebhoy, Henderson is a natural rightsided / c mid and imo broonys successor, while Armstrong is leftsided/c mid, why not have both and strengthen/ naturally balance the team, i'm not convinced with biton so have broony there and Armstrong and Henderson can play in same mid

06 Jan 2015 00:09:17
Know where you're coming from I just can't see him getting a game if armstrong comes in, plus we still have charlie 2 come back aswel who imo should never be near the midfield but for some reason deila and even strachan like him there, probably be better putting henderson out on loan so he gets games, even at hibs somewhere like that

Iv been saying for months that I can't understand why Henderson doesn't start for us. Tonight just underlines it for me. I mean the boys only 18! Let him play, our midfield can't afford to have that quality sitting on the bench. Markie

Markiebhoy, I would have thought Henderson should have been starting, but maybe Deila kept him with the development squad to work on a couple of things . Anyway I hope he gets regular play time from now on . I don't like loaning out youngsters as usually they don't come back any better.

I just hope he doesn't over play him the same way he did with McGregor as Henderson will be a real player for us.
I liked Biton (instead of Mulgrew) but he lacks a bit of bite - no pun intended - and he doesn't utilise his height enough.

06 Jan 2015 03:32:11
I'm the same as you jim I prefer biton in there infront of charlie but if I had 2 choose i'd rather have the same midfield as tonight for the league but I wouldn't start commons against inter if he's still here by then

If Commons is still here he should be brought on. Hasn't got the energy to start European games.

Was having a conversation today with a friend and fellow celtic supporter and I have to say I really liked Briton in the team to begin with . But now I m not so sure, to me he's like Gary Mcallister ( whom I couldn't stand )good player but far far too relaxed everything seems to slow down with him, I for one would rather have kayal at least he zips about the place digs in tries to drive forward, how can we expect the team to play the fast free flowing football rd wants when we have players slowing the pace?

05 Jan 2015 22:27:33
2nites verdict

Fantastic on plastic

Fantastic tonight, maybe despite the artifical surface . I thought often the players were afraid to turn quickly or move quickly from a standing position .
The ball seem to zip along fairly consistently and it was a great result to score 2 and be disappointed with not at least four more .

I thought they were rightly cautious and there were a few slips; but generally it really suited us and we outplayed an artificial team on an artificial pitch.
Just as well we never got to practice on it or we would have scored a dozen.

05 Jan 2015 22:22:45
I really would love to have Kris Commons on board and raring to go for the League Cup match on 1st Feb.
I reckon he would run amok. Great 3 points tonight, only one team in it, an even keel again.

05 Jan 2015 21:07:27
Young Henderson and Johansen having a blinder and Mathews and Izzy look more like their old selves.
Our possession is fantastic; however, missed chances are becoming a trade mark of this Celtic side and we should be three or four goals up in a very one sided first half.
Commons has been unlucky but maybe he doesn't need to blast every shot?
The establishment are out in force allowing several bad tackles on Celtic players to go unpunished, while booking those two hatchet men Commons and Izzy!
Even Sevco Sly have wheeled in Slug 2 as a jinx so we must have more of the same in the second half Celts. But with a few goals this time and 3 much needed pts.
By the way; we are playing very well in spite of Ambrose and Scepovic who are pantaloons.

Efe, s sixth league fame in a row, five shut outs, why don't you open your eyes

Another game another 3 woodworks I wonder how many times we've rattled that this season must be top of the charts. Comfortable win that could have been made more comfortable. Who got MOTM had to have been Izzy?

Well done Celtic tonight controlled the game throughout the 90mins I mention biton and henderson because they've had their critics and thought both were excellent tonight if they do a bit more work in the gym and build their muscle they could do a real job for us.Johansen and Broony are stars already and it would be churlish to criticise anyone on tonights team performance with another clean sheet.

Groutdoc; the shut outs have very little to do with Ambrose. More like Biton and Brown covering and the wing backs are back to their best form.
Henderson and Johansen were also terrific at chasing back and tackling. Ambrose takes too many risks, makes clumsy errors and loses concentration every single game. If Lustig or Denayer were fit he would not be playing.

So the shut outs are nothing to do with him but any goals we lose are his fault, that it not reasonable really is it. he is playing centre half and we are not losing goals give him the credit he deserves

05 Jan 2015 22:51:49
Na Jim the goal keepers and defenders get the credit for the shut outs. You don't take goals off strikers because a midfielder did all the work and squared for the striker to tap in. Fairs fair the stats say he is doing well right now but the issue is that were expecting him to slip up at any moment, overly scrutinising him and being blinkered by him when it's others who sometimes who are responsible.

Efe ambrose is a complete bombscare some of you have short memories regarding him.
Big Liam Henderson fan though, lots of good youngsters coming through. fisher, macgregor, o'connell and efe ambroses boy lol.

This nonsense about Ambrose has gone on too long . I think people think it's the "in" thing to scoff and make fun of Ambrose. Not only is our defence conceding less goals he has played a major part in two of our goals scored .
His header down towards the goal from the header led to our second goal tonight . A couple of weeks ago he won the ball deep in his own half, strode forward and released wee James and a goal was scored .
If you think you are helping Celtic by mocking and making fun of a Celtic player, who nobody denies, can make mistakes, but did you watch his speed
running towards his own goals in the second half and putting in a superb tackle, Ambrose is no shoite player .

I cannot understand this talk about Izzy coming back to form . Izzy has been brilliant nearly all year, the amount of ground he covers up and down the wing is unbelievable, he normally completely destroys the right sided midfielder on the opposing team by his runs far into the opposing half .
If anything last night was one of his weaker performances of the season but his beautiful goal rescued him .

Jungle Jim, maybe Ambrose can influence the midfield players and full backs to improve their game . After-all you claim that the reason we have more clean sheets is down to these players more than the centre half Ambrose . If that pleases you ok carry on in your wee world .

05 Jan 2015 20:53:28
Pleased with the half so far, could be 4-0, few sloppy moments. Just hoping we keep that intensity in the second half of pressing.

Is it just me or has big stefan been making runs but no one seems to try thread him through. I might be wrong but it seems like they're always looking for commons not sure what to think of it. Really enjoy watching henderson never scared of a 50-50 or trying something different played in a few key passes also.

Commons is too selfish but think there's been a few times when the ball coulda been played elsewhere but they have looked for commons

The team trust & know Commons - because of he carried the team last year. We really must find a place for him. Celtic look to have teeth when he plays

05 Jan 2015 19:52:29
Took the Hoops at -2 so hoping for a good performance & result. 3 points a must. HH

05 Jan 2015 18:15:54
I have just watched the STV news at 6. As a Scot and a Glaswegian I am totally disgusted, how on earth Stv can have a football item ahead of the funeral of 1 victim from the George Sq tragedy.

I wonder who picks the reporting schedule??

05 Jan 2015 14:34:04
Seen we've been offered some unknown striker on the cheap. When will this stop? We should be looking at players like GMS, Ryan Jack, Armstrong and Rooney. These guys know the league and would run riot for us. Just my opinion.

Surely not, of the four I would only take armstrong, and even then he is a young boy who would still have a lot to do in making the step up. GMS is not the level of playmaker we need.

Edin you're right in that we should be aiming for better. However i'd have GMS in the RAM position over Forrest anyday.

JimTim I get you, I think that forrest when fit is better but 'when fit' is the issue. I think GMS is too inconsistent, and there is not a lot between him/hayes/mcginn. I don't watch a lot of there games but from what I hear he is no stand out above the likes of ciftci/armstrong/erskine this season.

I think we need a centre half and defensive centre mid. then in the summer there are a number of players that should be replaced

Agree mate. Armstrong is the ONE player from the SPFL I'd want, but as you say is still no finished article.

If we end up getting a few of the names we've been linked with it could be a decent window IMO - Brooks, Kara and Armstrong would do me just fine until the summer.

Getting rid of players is harder than signing them to achieve a squad overhaul. Who would honestly come in for players not getting game time in Scotland.

05 Jan 2015 17:16:37
Even a fully fit forrest imo isn't better than gms. Forrest always cuts inside his decision making is atrocious, his final ball is even worse, but cause he has pace and occasionaly goes by a guy he's made out like a class player

I think pace is the only asset Forrest has over GMS Gunnie. I'd have GMS given his low price tag.

Jamie's I agree with you that in your
opinion the players you listed would run riot in the SPL
However I haven't got the confidence you have that they could run riot against a packed defence . Just my opinion .

Nadir cifti stats,, 61 games, 26 goals, 19 assists. i'd take him in a minute in place of stokes, Griffiths, so too Armstrong get him in cm move johansonn wide left,, isn't gms available to sign pre contract for nothing after this window? i'd do that,,

Jamie's
You are concerned about by who is to you and me an unknown striker . Surely it's better to sign someone that maybe good, than signing someone who everyone knows wouldn't be capable of playing for us against tightly packed defences .

05 Jan 2015 18:40:16
I agree jim if people rate forrest highly then that's their right we all have different opinions but apart from the pace he has I think he's average at best, the dundee derby last week gms was outstanding and the quality of his goals is the big difference between him and forrest for me

I would take ciftci over rooney but have you seen stats for stokes/griffiths when they were at hibs? There is no indication that ciftci would be any better for us than they have been.

I think signing GMS armstrong and ciftci is slightly OTT, dundee united are capable of playing nice football but they are not quite that impressive.

I would take armstrong but i'd be wary of how he dealt with the pressure. i'd prefer a more experienced, defensive minded player and see how henderson does. Then sign armstrong instead of biton in the summer if he continues to impress and biton shows no improvement

Gunniebhoy I get what your saying. Its not that I rate him highly, I just don't think GMS is the man to replace him

Edinbhoy he is a better than them two scepovic, balde, and pukki now and that's why i'd sign him, Armstrong is the biggest talent /prospect in the spl outside of and including us, and a player as versatile as gms on a free is a no brainer, if you take the heart of the utd team that gets them playing nice football, then sign them,

I would rather Pawlett to Forrest. Where did you get the assists for Ciftci DRB? He's no where in the top 20 this season so I doubt he made 15+ assists last season!?

Bravetart,,, a website

Ed,,, is the site I mentioned to bravetart taboo on here? don't want him thinking I was taking the piss

{Ed007's Note - It must be blocked by the filters.}

05 Jan 2015 14:09:11
Read in the paper that utd have been offered 150k for GMS, surely we should be going for him at that money? I would rather we signed him and got rid of wakso, tonev and Derek. What we would save on wages for those three in a year would cover it

05 Jan 2015 00:51:40
Watching sportscene tonight Alan Archibald said in his post match interview he was pleased with the performance as his squad had been plagued with injuries and illness all week would suggest to me that the claims of them deliberately watering the pitch could well be justified.killy.

To be honest, it shouldn't matter if Partick did get the match called off deliberately, we should be winning against them whenever the match is played.
The fact that people are bothered about it, shows the lack of confidence in the team at the moment.

Gerry c my post has nothing to do with lack of confidence in celtic, the point is if what people are suggesting is true then for me it's sabotage.Fans who made arrangements to attend this may not be able to attend the rearranged match which will be played midweek.If I was one of those fans I would be Bothered and also it may result in us playing games in a short period of time.For me if true it's totally unacceptable for a team to behave in such an appealing way, just my thoughts on the situation.killy.

Pure conspiracy. Do you think Thistle would risk a huge fine and possible points deduction for bringing the game into disrepute? They would get absolutely hammered for this if it was deliberate.

@2) good point. Regardless of opposition, it's a time of year when some supporters get to take their kids and family. Others from out of Glasgow etc. get the chance to attend a game (which realistically, we should have won) so a good day out all round. At a time when the spirt is trying to attract supporters, this is not good.

If the replayed match is not on TV, won't Thistle miss out on the Money, I wouldn't have thought they could afford to miss out on that.

Big rab What river have you came up in a bubble . The thought of any side in Scotland suffering a fine for inconvenience to Celtic and Celtic followers is laughable .