Celtic Banter Archive June 04 2018

 

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04 Jun 2018
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Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, We are doomed!

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05 Jun 2018 17:52:16
Brilliant mate! And they're still believing that stuff 6 years later! Except green and whyte have been replaced by old squinty eyes! They're not called the most gullible fans in world football for nothing you know! Anyone heard how the big outside investment is going by the way! 🙈🙈🤣🤣.

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04 Jun 2018 20:40:21
Awright troops, no checked in in a while. Bit unfussed about this Joe Allen Chat. Really think that Christie could be a revelation in our team this year and would much rather big money went on a tidy CB who can cover RB too. Would love to see Ralston kick on thee as a starter but we'll see what pre season brings. I'm daring to dream that ED LG and MD will all remain Celtic players and so would love to see us bring in someone like St Juste and maybe Matt Hummels or Pique 😂😂😂😂.

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04 Jun 2018 21:18:02
Christie will not be a revelation as he will not get in the team, he is simply not good enough.

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05 Jun 2018 00:32:42
Rayman99 I agree, Christie wouldn't have been sent out on loan twice, if he featured in Brendan's plans.

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05 Jun 2018 06:34:05
What like ajer?

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05 Jun 2018 07:28:21
Can mind all the same rubbish being said about young McGregor.

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05 Jun 2018 07:35:59
Chris if he didn't feature in Brendans plan he would 1) still be at Aberdeen, 2) be sold, 3) not be offerer a new contract.

You said on the rumours page Ajers loan deal set him back 6 months. Even though the lad himself said the complete opposite, as did Brendan. You know better than the people involved though.

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05 Jun 2018 07:45:48
Christie is a player, there is plenty in him. I think like Ajer, it took a loan to make him a Celtic player. I also have a feeling we might line up in a different shape next season in certain games, you could tell the frustration from us all including BR with this 5-4-1 against us at home.

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05 Jun 2018 08:44:20
There is definitely a difference between players like Allen and Ciftci being loaned out because they should never have been at Celtic in the first place - and Christie, who BR sees potential.
The youngster has also been offered a new deal and with Roberts and possibly others moving on, it would seem he is in the managers plans.

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05 Jun 2018 10:20:45
Christie is a good player, the question should be, is he good enough for where we want to be?

I don’t think he is. I would love him to prove me wrong though. Time will tell.

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05 Jun 2018 13:59:10
I must have been watching the wrong games, quys on here talking about Joe Allen as being a creative player, he is no where near good enough to be the answer to Celtics need for a creative player, I wouldn't have him anywhere near the team.

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05 Jun 2018 22:43:26
Island Celt Ajer went out on loan for 6 mths . Christie went out on loan for six mths and then a season .
Did going out improve Ajer, I doubt it as he went to Kilmarnock and was coached by elbows McCullagh that he learned much . I think the loan to Killie delayed Ajer getting a permanent place on the Celtic team . You may remember when he eventually came into the Celtic team his hands were all over his opponents. It took BR and Celtic coaches many games to coach the McCullagh tactics out of him.

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04 Jun 2018 20:04:35
I just wanted to congratulate big Boyata for making a mega talented Belgian squad for the World Cup. got to believe his form over the last month got him the nod. Asides from KT and probably Moussa, would we have any players in that squad?

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04 Jun 2018 20:26:40
Absolutely good call VT, it wasn’t ago his head was called for here, but seems to improve by the day. Hope the lad gets a good run and prove himself worthy to be representing Celtic.

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04 Jun 2018 20:36:18
His problem is concentration. When he's on it he's as good as we will get. Big mobile and fast, a real modern CB. if he keeps it together!

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{Ed007's Note - When Boyata just follows his instinct and doesn't think too much he's a solid enough defender. I noticed a few times (I think it was the cup final) he was just hitting the ball out for a throw-in rather than pass it back to the 'keeper or trying and take on the attacker. If he keeps his concentration and keeps it simple he plays well.}

04 Jun 2018 20:47:10
Boyata was a rock the last 5 games of the season. Hope he signs a new deal.

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04 Jun 2018 22:44:53
I agree with Ed. If the bug fellow would just be the new Bobo crunch head and howff it out hed be sound. Its when he tries to be to silky, which is to much for me, that ge gives me the fear.

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04 Jun 2018 23:06:03
I should proof read more when drinking Ed. Big fat thumbs and all that.

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05 Jun 2018 00:35:11
I have always liked big Boyata, he may have lacked some confidence from time to time , but we shouldn't blame him, too many fans treated him like Ambrose.

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05 Jun 2018 02:34:07
He has made the same mistakes as Efe from time to time, but as yous have said if he concentrates and clears his lines he is a decent cb .

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05 Jun 2018 08:37:57
Well done to him. I've defended him as much as anybody on here and would like him to stay to at least be part of the squad. But, if rumours are true about him wanting to move elsewhere then this could be a good shop window for us. With Kompany and Vermaelen made of glass, and Belgium playing a back 3. Boyata could find himself playing.

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05 Jun 2018 10:10:51
The frustrating thing about Boyata is that he does have what it takes. He sadly also has had a tendency to make major balls ups at crucial times in big games.


I agree with the consensus that if he sorts out taking stupid and suicidal risks then he moved up another level. The question is do we take the risk? We need another really good CB and that in itself will put pressure on him to sort out his scary tendencies.

I hope he plays in the WC and does great. Even if he doesn’t recsign that alone will get us a good return if he chooses pastures new, if he stays the confidence gained will help us. Conversely. If he has a nightmare then having adequate cover is vital.

A RB is also a must for me. Our main weakness is in defence and needs addressed as a matter of urgency.

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{Ed007's Note - But it isn't really the defence that's worrying. We conceded the same amount of goals in the league as last year and the defence was good enough to win another treble while only conceding 2 goals in both the cup competitions.
The problem was we scored 33 less goals in the league than we did previously and we drew blanks at home against teams like St Johnstone, Killie and Motherwell, if our defence was as shoddy as some people think we'd have lost some of the 10 draws we had.
There is absolutely nothing to back up this notion that our defence is our weakness.}

05 Jun 2018 10:38:49
The CL is the level we attain to. We lost the most goals of all teams in it. That tells me that this is an area that needs addressed. If we are happy with SPFL stats then you’re right, we shouldn’t be though. I’m not saying we are covered in other areas, im saying last season in thevCL we were humiliated more than once. We would have had a great chance to beat Bayern had it not been for one suicidal mistake from Boyata and failing to meet the cross for their second.

The defence isn’t good enough. Lustig has lost two yards. We don’t have acreplacemt of adequate cover for him. Hendry doesn’t look good enough for the SPFL never mind the CL.

Our rabbits in the headlights approaches to big games there for me was contributed to through fear of losing the ball and leaving it to a defence no one should feel confident in.

We have been saying for years our defence isn’t good enough and European level football confirms this every season. We can’t go another year with hope and talking up players who might be good enough. We need players who are. A RB and s CB who go straight in are a must.

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{Ed007's Note - We need to sort out our AM department domestically before we even think about anything in Europe. In Europe our problems are more about tactics than personnel, if Rodgers played a midfield 3 (4-3-2-1) with 2 CDMs instead of 2 (4-2-3-1) with one CDM in there it would make all the difference.}

05 Jun 2018 11:00:03
I would agree better tactics will help, better players will make those improved tactics even more effective. Let’s be bold and do both.

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{Ed007's Note - I'll be surprised if a RB is brought in if I'm being honest.}

05 Jun 2018 11:48:11
Then that will be a mistake. Lustig, as much as I love him is on the downward curve. Ralston isn’t good enough imo and to leave that position to them both will be a decision that relies on hope.

I actually think we will this time, but I thought we would last time so you’re probably right.

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{Ed007's Note - Lustig's been carrying an ankle knock most of the season so that hasn't helped and I don't think going to the WC will do him any good in the longer term. For years Lustig has spoke about how he will eventually move to play at CB because of his ongoing hip problems and at 31 this might be the ideal time to do that.}

05 Jun 2018 12:37:32
He certainly could provide cover so maybe that’s an option for him. Pace is still a factor though and age slows everyone down.

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05 Jun 2018 22:54:52
Ed007 . It seems that it is very easy for some fans to slag defenders . They see a bit of a slip or a bit of lack of control and they go mad with their criticism . Every defender in the World can have some degree of error in their game at some stage. Fans who have played the game understand .
The creative midfielder is more difficult to assess, he relies a lot on quality and timing of getting ball and movement of players around him . Because fans don't fully understand the intricities involved they tend to ignore these players and blame the defence who concede a goal every two games. , as giving them nightmares, even if the defence may not be at fault for half goals conceded.

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04 Jun 2018 19:38:38
Ed!

Was there ever a follow up by Celtic for Wout Weghorst?

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{Ed007's Note - Weghorst was a John Park target but he signed for AZ Alkmaar.}

04 Jun 2018 21:19:56
Noticed him in the Dutch squad tonight.

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04 Jun 2018
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Dead Club

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Boxing Legends Part 1 - Mike Tyson

04 Jun 2018 10:30:52
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Boxing Legends Part 1 - Mike Tyson

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04 Jun 2018 11:26:41
Brilliant.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Amber.}

04 Jun 2018 13:37:32
Didn't want it to end great read.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Gordo.}

04 Jun 2018 14:15:36
Excellent, thank you.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers glen.}

04 Jun 2018 15:19:58
I agree Tyson had people beat before they boxed


When do we get part two Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - did you read it all Jamie? The navigation buttons are at the bottom of the page, they had to be moved there at the instruction of Newsnow, who are making us jump through hoops (so to speak) to get that site listed. We now are no longer allowed the navigation buttons above the article so you have to scroll to the bottom to move on to the second part.

Or have I got it completely wrong and you mean the second boxer in the series, rather than the second part of that particular article?}

04 Jun 2018 16:29:22
Agree great read Ed001. Love the boxing and have most books and dvds. Reading that has made me want to watch Tyson the Movie so that's now the plan for tonight. Really looking forward to the new movie by Scorsese with Jamie Foxx staring.

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{Ed001's Note - glad you enjoyed mate. I never knew there was a new movie coming on him.}

04 Jun 2018 16:49:23
Fantastic boxer just a scum bag.

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{Ed001's Note - there is a lot more to Tyson than that. He was an abused and bullied child, abandoned by his father and lost his guiding influence just when he needed him.}

04 Jun 2018 16:59:33
I read about it on Movieweb before Xmas, Tyson confirmed it was by Scorsese and Foxx staring so it will be epic.

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{Ed001's Note - that does sound good. There is a Jack Johnson biopic on the way as well, he is another character and a half.}

04 Jun 2018 17:32:52
Was that the boxer who was pardoned by Trump recently? I'll Need to try find a book and read up about him but will look out for the biopic thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, the first black heavyweight champion. He was a real character in a time when you could be shot in the street just for being black. Everything Ali did, even Ali admitted in his first autobiography it came from Johnson. Even the leaning back to slip punches came from Johnson. Ali took it on a level but he was improving and refining rather than creating. Though Johnson himself did not invent the style either, he was taught it in prison. He is well worth reading about though.}

04 Jun 2018 18:07:41
Think the film is about cus d'amato.

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{Ed001's Note - that would make sense, there is a lot to tell about him as well.}

04 Jun 2018 18:25:48
I'll look into him now cheers for that Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - enjoy the read mate.}

04 Jun 2018 18:31:55
Thanks 001 you cleared that up

How clinical was Tyson in the wee Black shorts and boxing boots?

At a time of all the bravado and introduction of bling adored him till he bit Holyfield's ear 👂

Thanks again 001.

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{Ed001's Note - did you know Holyfield had bit someone's ear in the ring in the past as well?}

04 Jun 2018 19:03:25
No I never Ed was that before the Tyson fight or post Tyson?

Surprised I never knew that love my boxing.

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{Ed001's Note - before mate. Years before, but it does show it was not just a lunatic with a one off moment. Other boxers have done it. It reminds me of when Carl Lewis bitched about Ben Johnson doping, he had twice tested positive in college athletics himself, so he wasn't clean either!}

04 Jun 2018 19:19:09
A lot of sports biographies are just money making churn
But iron mikes is a brilliant read. When he talks about what he was involved with at the time he won the heavyweight championship I was in shock.
Watch his recent interviews on you tube.

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{Ed001's Note - I am really looking forward to reading it. Wish I hadn't started Bellers biography yesterday now. Should have waited so I wouldn't have to read through that first.}

04 Jun 2018 19:30:12
If any of you guys are looking for a good read I highly recommend George Kimballs Four Kings, covers the Duran, Hearns, Leonard, Hagler era.

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04 Jun 2018 19:41:33
There are some excellent documentaries on youtube about Mike Tyson and some great footage of him in his early years.

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04 Jun 2018 20:42:23
When you see mike now being interviewed he seems like a man who genuinely has tried to turn a page regarding his previous lifestyle and persona. He gets irked when people try to liken him (how he is / wants to be now) to the way he was as a young brutal kid - growing up in Brownsville (hard streets apparently) to having the world at his feet as the youngest world champion. All that rage, loss of his only role model, countless hangers on, bad advice no wonder only to screw everything up.
I’m not saying he’s not accountable for his actions here, but his bio describes one crazy existence.
Maybe this happens when you have such a fall from grace (you repent) who knows. Either way for me - my favourite ever heavyweight champ.

Roll On Tyson fury becoming undefeated champion once again
The gypsy king

Let us know how Tony B’s bio goes ed ie if you recommend it.

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{Ed001's Note - Tony B? I meant Craig Bellamy's autobiography mate. Sorry just realised I should have made that clearer as the thread was on boxing! So far it is interesting enough, though, knowing a fair bit of Bellamy that has been left out, it is a bit of a whitewash and I am not impressed with the ghostwriting. However he does have a lot to say, not all of it is quite true according to other people involved. Though it is nice to read his respect for Gary Speed, as he clearly looked up to him. The rest is very Bellamy's view, though he does admit blame for a lot of things, accepts he was a silly child, he also omits huge parts of things and skips away from actually admitting most of the stuff he did. So it is a lot of just talk about 'I played well that day and scored' or 'I was not playing well and didn't score'. Those bits are meh, but the rest is interesting, it just lacks him really getting into detail and opening up fully. There is so much more he could have revealed, which he has skimmed past as it does not show him in the best light.}

05 Jun 2018 06:36:47
That’s often the problem with sports biographies
Don’t go the extra mile
I’m sue you will love Tyson’s though.

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{Ed001's Note - hope so.}

05 Jun 2018 16:35:22
the young mike would have beaten any heavyweight boxer of any era at their peak.

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Review Of The Day 4th June 2018

04 Jun 2018 06:27:00
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 4th June 2018

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