Celtic Banter Archive February 03 2015

03 Feb 2015 18:36:35
After weeks of negative posts regarding celtic, the board and some horrible descriptions of Peter Lawwell., it would have been nice to have read some positive posts from dangy1888 and dn30 in particular regarding the signings of Armstrong and Mackay-Steven I won't hold my breath.killy.

Killy I don't know if you are high on glue or something, but think you will find I have always been supportive of signing armstrong and GMS. You are aware that celticrumours has more than one page where people can post? Suggest you have a wee peek and you will see I have commented regarding situation.

Sounds to me like you are in a wee cream puff cause Deila is executing his duties as manager effectively and are looking to nitpick anyone who has consitently backed Deila

Dn30 I never at anytime mentioned our manager or said anything derogatory against him.My post was in relation to you and dangy1888 who in the past week or so we're betting on Peter Lawwell not spending money in the transfer window along with some unsavoury remarks towards him, the same dangy1888 who suggested a couple of weeks ago that Rangers would score a barrowload against us.At 66 it wouldn't be advisable for me to sniff glue, with regards to being in the huff about our manager, I am one of the old brigade of celtic fans who has and never will bad mouth celtic or any of their managers, all of them over the years have always had my support and as long as I am alive they always will regardless of how they are playing.killy.

Well within our rights to slate Lawwell and biscuit tin mentality. There are plenty of instances where trying to play wheeler dealer, has effected quality on pitch with some of the dross we have seen.

Maybe your happy to see team underperform, but majority of support are not. wouldn't surprise me if you were happy to see the kellys nearly send club to the wall

Most of the doss we have signed have come about as reasonable players from their home club . They regarded signing for Celtic as their big team and were happy to play a bit at Celtic . Those who want ed to become big starts and go to England worked hard with our coaches .

Dn30 your right that we as fans have been let down in previous transfer windows but I think Killy is referring to comments you made in the last week about the willingness to sign players in this window by pl and board. I think most of us are happy to sign Gms and Stuart so a wee well done to pl and board for these deals as they proved your fears wrong would have been nice. Hopefully I'll do the same with ronny if we beat inter Milan lol

It's the first window in who knows how long that I have actually been remotely pleased as opposed to fuming.

We've spent a couple million. But a couple million I think most seem to agree is well spent. So well done Celtic for, in quite a while, appeasing some very tired fans.

Just do the same again, and more, in the summer.

The board do need praised this time. But guys let's not blast them if both the signings don't work out. They appear to be very good signings, what happens after that is down to the players.

Yeah I hope they are given the rest of the season to settle in. Apparently RD compared him to muller, obviously not quite that level, so perhaps that shows us where he imagines him playing. I still think we need a defensive midfielder brought in for next years attempt at europe, as mulgrew can offer cover their but it would be good to look forward. Shame we never signed besic

I don't think i'm out of order for slating the board. I don't think there is one supporter out there who doesn't agree, cutting corners and not bringing in anyone before CL qualifier against Maribor cost us dearly. Spending at that point would of made club £20m and would of addressed injury problems. The board knew they had to spend this window or there would of been an uproar.

The only person I think deserves praise through this is Deila. He made the best of what he has and has done well so far. I think this idea of smaller squad will get the best out of players, as they will have more game time.

As I've said in a previous post, you can't change your view on manager after one game. Same applies to lawwell, you can't change view after one transfer window

Hi edinbhoy, a hope that muller comparison gets quickly forgot about mate, a think they are a burden rather than any benefit, a cannot be the only disappointed then a young teen that Stevie Fulton wasn't "the new Baggio"

It was a pleasure listening to them yesterday @ the press conference seem, bright & articulate you always take a chance in youngsters "heads turning" to easy, seem level headed & grounded which is a plus IMO

ATVB JB7

Yeah jamie, i'm sure it will. Was merely a comment suggesting that RD sees him as a versatile forward so perhaps we are likely to see him in a variety of positions.

I think it's just too simple and not true that if the club had spent £5 m before the Maribor match the club would have made £20m less £5m . For a start the first team squad etc would get bonuses for qualifying . Also if anyone at Celtic would have the ability to pick out a player or more that would guarantee qualification to Champions league, then he would certainly be a very important member of the scouting team.

Chris the £20m is called gross profit. Its fairly obvious there would be deductions from this figure. The point is there would be a far greater pot left compared to europa league.

DN 30 surely the point is that that even if the board spent as freely as even are most spendthrift fans wanted, there is no guarantee that the club would get the alleged £20m . Indeed qualifying for the Champions League could cost the club money in the short term . Who is to say that if we got past inter Milan and another couple of rounds in the Europa Cup we may make more real money .
To be honest neither you or me know .

Chris02 I don't think any fan would want club to get into debt by freely spending. Nobody is saying that. But players were needed at start of season and it was a hell of a gamble by lawwell that never paid off.

Even if we win Europa league, doubt revenue will be more than £20m CL stages

DN everyone would agree the club needed players in September, but remember there are two sides to the story . The players Celtic wanted may not have wanted to sign for Celtic, or maybe the clubs who had the players signatures may have felt the players were worth more than Celtic were prepared to give . Remember DN Deila only came to Celtic in mid June . He didn't meet the players until the end of the month and so it was a very rushed job building the squad he wanted . At the outset it looked as if we had three great players, on loan, but now we are unsure of Guidetti . Three good signing in a window isn't bad for Celtic .

Dn30 everyone has a right to their opinion, my gripe is that it becomes to personal towards certain people within Celtic Park.As I said in an earlier post I am a Celtic supporter and will watch Celtic regardless of the team are performing, that's what supporters do.With regards to the Kelly, s nearly putting the club to the wall, I think that was the aim of a certain cretin called Murray abetted by the Bank of Scotland the same bank that were close to shutting down Celtic, whilst at the same time were lavishing untold millions on Rangers.It was impossible for the Kelly, s and the board members to compete with with that level of spending, because no one had any interest in Celtic they were all falling over themselves to cosy up to Mr Murray, who I said earlier in this post was determined to put Celtic out of the game.It wasn't only Celtic who suffered at the CHEATING every team did, so I think it's wrong to put the blame on the Kelly, s they did what they could under the circumstances.killy.

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Killy
What would be the optimum age for sniffin' glue?
You say at 66 it is not advisable, well I am only 52 so can you advise me if there is still time for me at my age to benefit from the the glue sniffin' as I was too scared to try it when I was in my youth in the late 70s early 80s lol.

Killy if a post is directed at me, I've every right to challenge gripe. If fans don't voice concerns, its a slippery slope as board of whatever team they support will take advantage and do what they want.

Did you back mowbray till the end? Cause I don't think 1 person did.

Dn30 this is my last post on the ongoing exchange of opinions with you.As stated in previous posts I am a Celtic supporter, through good and not so good times I will be there supporting and encouraging the team regardless of who the manager is, but that's just me a SUPPORTER of Celtic Football Club.killy.

05 Feb 2015 19:41:31
Thank God for that killy. I was getting really bored of debating with yet another superfan who likes to dictate what people should think. If that's what floats your boat, you should go stay in North Korea.

Obviously your happy to be a yes man and see club ran into ground, but majority of fans including myself will be heard

03 Feb 2015 17:37:30
ok bhoys & Ghirls: Now that the tranny window is done and dusted.

Without using the big (WWW)
Name as many as poss. Celtic players that wore the No7 jersey.

Ps welcome to the Celtic family. GA & GMS.

HH

I'll get things started with Magic Zurawski

That legend Juhninho lmao a paid £600 notes @ a charity event for one of his shirts it must be worth a mint noo! because there can only be about four of them!

Since squad number I remember henrik, Juninho, and miku. Had forgot bout magic

Scott McDonald

Robbie keane and Freddie lujnberg

04 Feb 2015 08:38:34
Paolo di canio

Dugald McCarrison on 4 occassions between 87-93?

Joe Miller and Paul Byrne?

03 Feb 2015 16:24:58
I wonder if we'll get Stefan Strandberg in on a precontract, just realised his contracts up in the summer, seen his name a few times, seems highly rated

03 Feb 2015 13:49:43
I'm very happy we got the 2 Dundee Utd bhoys and would have been on here complaining if we never got it done so at least PL did good work but here is my problem with the deal which may look like picking at bones! We got Armstrong for a good price but for this I'm guessing we have at least a 20% sell on clause, why not just pay the extra 1m up front rather than cost our selfs a potential 2/3 m in the future?

Maybe because Armstrong may stay with us for the greater part of his career .
Maybe the 20% to Dundee Utd on resale is a figment of the MSSM.
Or simply Peter Lawwell believes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush .
Usually when it comes to finance P L gets it right .

Almost every deal involving a young player has a sell on, nothing new and expected really.

03 Feb 2015 13:14:19
Really happy with the deadline signings yesterday especially Armstrong, I've been on here slating Peter Lawell last couple a months but fair play to him he's done us good yesterday.

03 Feb 2015 11:04:28
Hi Ed cheers for keeping us up to date yesterday.
With todays poll being about Bakkali, is there any hope of us getting him in the summer?

{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't think so, the player made it clear he wasn't interested in the move days ago. There was never any chance of signing him.}

03 Feb 2015 12:37:06
It was always predictable some of the snipers would all of a sudden change their opinion of Deila after beating that mob.

Realistically he has achieved far better results against stronger sides, yet his merits are only recognised now by some.

Hopefully this faction will cut Deila a bit of slack now and let him do his job

It would be silly if people change their view after a game against a dire lower league side. I think his challenge is to put up a decent performance over two games with Milan, and come out of the home games with Hamilton, Aberdeen and United with maximum points. This would be convincing evidence the team is developing as he wants it, which should make all Celtic fans delighted. I am really pleased with the signings, hopefully they will become part of a young and hungry team

Groutdoc I totally agree that it is silly. i'm happy with signings too mate. They will make a difference. Did the boy duffy sign as well?

Now Now DN30 don't you be a naughty bhoy lol we have had a right good long weekend mate and as things slow down a bit now most of us just want to know if you and rayman are "swapping" valentine's day cards next week pmsl :-)

Sorry Groutdoc but am not going to judge RD against Inter they have spent big time and although they are not the animal they once were IMO it is a bridge to far at this stage and furthermore if we do progress in this tournament the final itself is in Warsaw and given what has happened earlier in the season we won't be welcome there even if we got there!

{Ed007's Note - Inter spent big but how many of their new signings are eligible for the EL?}

If never had a bad word to say about RD but don't u all think 5 games, 5 wins and 5 clean sheets is proof enough? It's going to take RD time to put his ideas fully into motion with the club I think after next year we will be able to see what he has achieved! We will need to bolster the defence and possibly a CF depending on what JG does.

I honestly don't know Ed how many they can play in the EL a think it is you are allowed to add 1 to your original squad?but no add idea for sure!

If it is +1 a hope it is not Podolski, I see they signed someone on loan from Newcastle his misses was on tweeting that he turned it down apparently in the first place only for Mike Ghastley to FORCE it through and she tweeted to that effect only to be forced to delete it! so he must think he can play against us lol

Obviously a would love to beat Inter but if we don't get through just think we should not be to hard on RD

Dn30 sorry but it's still too early to change opinions completely on ronny. He is rightly getting better praise as things are looking a little better but we are by no means fully there in my opinion. We still struggle to fully kill games off and maintain tempo for 90 minutes. Hopefully we see more improvements and if he can get past inter then maybe even more praise will be merited.ps Where would you put progress by ronny if we failed against a mid table inter Milan team?

03 Feb 2015 16:16:54
Jim1972 I respect your opinion, its consistent and one game has not changed it. However, there are a lot of people who have changed their view and went from slating Deila to all of a sudden he in a different light cause we beat the current tenants of ibrokes.

Our away record in Europe has been a problem for a long time, as long as we beat them at home and hold for a draw I think its achievable against a sub standard inter.

I still think it would be progress if we lost, provided we got at least double. Though I seriously think treble is high possibility

It shouldn't be too early for us to change our opinion of Ronny .
Our early opinion should have realised that he had performed semi miracles in his own Country winning their league with an unfashionable team .
At Celtic he took over a Club in transition, it should be no surprise half way through the season we are points clear in the league, in a domestic cup final . Still in Europe and Cup competition, as I say Ronnie doesn't surprise me He has done a great job .

Jamie no cards yet but we do have a date on Valentines to the movies. Some movie called 50 shades of green or something like that lol. DN don't know if you noticed but I changed my opinion RD before the local Derby. But we all know if we lost that game he would a got pelters.As there was so much pressure on it he would a got it much worse than the Maribor game or what Lennon got for Morton.I must admit I would a criticised him (justifiably) but I wudnt have wanted him gone.As I said I warming to him.

Rayman I know you did, wasnt aimed at you. Its just amazing other people who were slating him changed their opinion straight after game against that mob.

9 & 10) Right you two al buy the "Jumbo popcorn" for you two to share @ the cinema but if you sit in the back row a don't want a running commentary pmsl

Lmao jamie. Throw in a bag of maltesers while your at it lol

LOL DN30 shows you what I know about the pictures a thought 50 shades of Grey was the Hampden pitch on Sunday? :-)

They called it a scud mag in my day Jamie lol

03 Feb 2015 09:30:48
Great bit of business there!

Hopefully commons signs a new deal now and then Peter lawell should spend the rest of the season trying to get denayor signed or his loan extended. Would leave a big hole if we lost him and Virgil at the same time.

Looking forward to the rest of the season now. Lots of games coming up so we should get a good look at the signings.

03 Feb 2015 03:30:59
Will armstrong and m-steven be able to play in europa league?

Shouldn't see why not they should be registered.

Only one can be added to the squad for Europa league, that's what I read anyway!

No limit on number on new players that can be registered .
The one limit is on those who have previously played in champions League or Europa league this season.

03 Feb 2015 00:44:31
Fantastic business from PL today.

Can somebody help me out here. I checked spfl rules. Section 58 59 and 60 (page112) basically say you can't loan more than 2 from same club. Am I reading this wrong?

{Ed007's Note - That only applies to domestic loans. We didn't bring in any loans though.}

03 Feb 2015 00:23:00
great stuff Celtic, can't remember the last time I was this happy at the end of the transfer deadline.