Celtic Banter Archive May 31 2016

 

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31 May 2016 23:07:27
What about Scott sinclaire? The gaffer made him a smashing player a few years back has stalled since chasing the man city big bucks. Plus wouldn't mind a look at his bird lol.

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01 Jun 2016 09:37:26
He was a cracking player at Swansea you're right. But that was one quite short spell, and he's been about. Man City was a bad move all round. Essentially it would all be about trying to replicate form from about four year ago, and considering his cost - would be a bit too much of a gamble for me. Saying that, come the end of the window, I'll probably be lamenting not signing Scott Sinclair. So aye I would!

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01 Jun 2016 10:06:13
He'd be a good addition for sure and he's probably looking to get away from Villa. Money could be an issue.

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01 Jun 2016 15:08:55
why should we sign Scott Sinclair? I could put forward a better argument for signing kenny Miller llf. He has done nothing in his career to date. Tbh I couldn't believe city signed him in the first place. We need to stop battling clubs for pennies when trying to sign their players if they want 5m and he is worth 5m then pay it or piss off, don't start offering them 4.5m etc because you just make them less inclined to sell to you. How many players have we missed out on because the board wouldn't pay an extra couple hundred grand? . I mean we paid 2.4m for hooper from Scunthorpe yet we won't pay 3m for ellyanousy (spelling? ) and yes I know hooper was good for us but we didn't know that at the time.

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01 Jun 2016 16:04:41
Dundeebhoy there's no evidence that we wanted Elyounoussi in the first place, that's the difference. That's like moaning that we "won't" pay £50M for Harry Kane.

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01 Jun 2016 19:56:44
Kev Bhoy it's well known Rd wanted elynoussi and instead was given ckRichards so yes we did want him but the lunatics decided 2 sign a guy who by reports has now left on a free. Ed007 also confirmed that Molde were Willing to part with elynoussi but preferably when the season was over, ie this summer. Unsure what the situation is now but with Rd having left I don't see it happening now. Hail hail.

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01 Jun 2016 21:22:03
There is also no evidence that we have lost out on any player because of our refusal to pay extra few millions . Players that we may have wanted to buy, may not have wanted to come to Scotland .

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01 Jun 2016 22:18:59
Not quite the same thing kev, Yes it was only speculation but there's surely a reason we didn't sign him or someone similar, then went and blew thousands on wages on ckr and Cole to name a few. It can't all be parks fault or does he run the club? Peter Lawell and co are obviously trying to take clubs for every penny then offer teams insulting offers for their star players? And yes it is only speculation but it has happened far too often to just be made up lies. How many good players are we linked with every window that are in our price range yet we never seem to buy? One thing that sticks out for me is that we won't pay the transfer fees nevermind the wages and that was my point. Ellyanousy for example can't be on anymore than Scott brown if even that much so the only barrier would be the fee.

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01 Jun 2016 19:56:44
Kev Bhoy it's well known Rd wanted elynoussi and instead was given ckRichards so yes we did want him but the lunatics decided 2 sign a guy who by reports has now left on a free. Ed007 also confirmed that Molde were Willing to part with elynoussi but preferably when the season was over, ie this summer. Unsure what the situation is now but with Rd having left I don't see it happening now. Hail hail.

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01 Jun 2016 21:22:03
There is also no evidence that we have lost out on any player because of our refusal to pay extra few millions . Players that we may have wanted to buy, may not have wanted to come to Scotland .

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01 Jun 2016 22:18:59
Not quite the same thing kev, Yes it was only speculation but there's surely a reason we didn't sign him or someone similar, then went and blew thousands on wages on ckr and Cole to name a few. It can't all be parks fault or does he run the club? Peter Lawell and co are obviously trying to take clubs for every penny then offer teams insulting offers for their star players? And yes it is only speculation but it has happened far too often to just be made up lies. How many good players are we linked with every window that are in our price range yet we never seem to buy? One thing that sticks out for me is that we won't pay the transfer fees nevermind the wages and that was my point. Ellyanousy for example can't be on anymore than Scott brown if even that much so the only barrier would be the fee.

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02 Jun 2016 08:56:08
The Harry Kane comparison was obviously a big exaggeration but the papers are full of names every January and every summer. I agree with Old Bhoy, unless the club confirm interest in, or a bid for, a player then it's not necessarily true that the club wanted them and just didn't pull off the stops to get them. And as OB mentioned, a player can always just say it's not for them whether the club offer them decent money etc. Maybe not in the Elyounoussi case becasue he plays in a lower stature league but in general.

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02 Jun 2016 09:12:49
Maybe then the club are to claim since they never confirm anything until a players is officially signed, So you are going to create speculation and all I'm saying is it can't all be lies every summer for aslong as I can remember. How many players have we obviously missed out on? Yes as OB said maybe some just didn't want to come here maybe we didn't want to pay the wages demanded but to even get to that point you need to agree a fee which IMO is the thing that is most likely to block it for us.

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02 Jun 2016 14:41:57
I agree that the club have penny pinched overall the past few seasons but I just thought it was unfair to claim that the club refused to pay £3M for Elyounoussi when we don't know any of the ins and outs, if any interset was ever actually expressed to Molde in the first place.

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02 Jun 2016 20:39:29
I never cease to wonder how knowledgeable our supporters are .
Despite having probably only recently heard the name of a particular player, they can often decide how stupid our club are for not signing him and don't forget it's nearly always Celtic's fault if he doesn't sign .
Half time the club had no interest but we let him get away.

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31 May 2016 21:24:32
Would bring back Adam Matthews in q second.

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01 Jun 2016 01:12:12
It was a big loss especially in Europe. We were a far more solid unit on the right with lustig and matthews overlapping. With janko not kicking a ball this season it really showed not having that extra player to rotate.
How have his injuries been since he left us?

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01 Jun 2016 07:44:44
Has he played since he left? I was glad when we sold him for the simple fact he was ways injured brilliant player when fit though.

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01 Jun 2016 08:15:40
Did he not get loaned out last season to one of the Bristol teams not sure which one tho.

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01 Jun 2016 08:35:39
He played the first game of the season for Sunderland then done his ankle in shortly afterwards.
Loaned to Bristol City in March and played 9 games.

I would have him back, at least we know what he's capable of on his day.

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01 Jun 2016 08:53:53
Tellingly didn't make the Wales Squad yesterday, but I thought we were daft to let him go; haven't been the same on the right since. Versatile too. Ledley another one.

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01 Jun 2016 09:34:50
Mathews is far to injury prone, we've enough defenders who fall into that category! Lol. liked him when he was injury free and fit but wouldn't take a chance with him! Defo need cover in at RB but, by all accounts janko wants back down south and I was never convinced by fisher. with lustig away with Sweden its to big a gamble to not get cover in there!

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01 Jun 2016 10:07:17
Let's get Boerrigter back while we're at it lol.

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01 Jun 2016 10:17:51
Why are people so desperate to bring old players back.
They have had their day.
I want to see new players.

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01 Jun 2016 11:18:08
Not desperate to have old players back and realise fitness has been major issue but he is only 24 and if he could put injuries behind him would be an asset. Bit harsh to compare him to Derk.

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01 Jun 2016 11:33:48
I know Davie, joking aside I actually would take Matthews back IF he could stay injury free. He should never have left though.

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01 Jun 2016 11:51:09
It's a major if but reckon him and Roberts could tear that right flank up on overlap if he was fit. In fact KT Jozo Erik and a fit Matthews would be a solid 4-yet another big if on Jozo's fitness so far.

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01 Jun 2016 15:00:01
new/ old players is irrelevant, what is relevant is good players. I don't care if it's mathews or some new RB aslong as whoever comes in is better than what we have. Mathews certainly fits that bill and injuries aside we know what he is capable of whereas a new signing has the mystery but might be a dud, so you have to weigh it up and scout players properly before signing them which takes time. IMO we need to start looking higher than Mathews and the players we are currently linked with (Chelsea youth? ) and start signing the quality we need to progress as a club.

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01 Jun 2016 20:17:13
He can't defend. doesn't attempt to stop crosses going into the box. Maribor at hime prime example. Also sure he was at fault at loosing the winner against killie in the cup final. Like him going forward though.

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01 Jun 2016 21:35:21
There are hundreds if not thousands of players for every position, if a player spends 2/ 3 seasons with us and then leaves, I wouldn't have him back . Having been here and done hiss best ( we wouldn't want him if he hadn't ) if he hadn't realised how lucky he is we shouldn't give him another chance .
At the end of the day how many have returned and did well. ?

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01 Jun 2016 20:17:13
He can't defend. doesn't attempt to stop crosses going into the box. Maribor at hime prime example. Also sure he was at fault at loosing the winner against killie in the cup final. Like him going forward though.

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01 Jun 2016 21:35:21
There are hundreds if not thousands of players for every position, if a player spends 2/ 3 seasons with us and then leaves, I wouldn't have him back . Having been here and done hiss best ( we wouldn't want him if he hadn't ) if he hadn't realised how lucky he is we shouldn't give him another chance .
At the end of the day how many have returned and did well. ?

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31 May 2016 19:00:22
It looks like one of our new manager's first priorities is going to be to sign some defenders.
Boyata is injured, Lustig, apparently is struggling again, Jozo might not be fully fit for the CL qualifiers, Mulgrew is out of contract, Fisher the same, Janko is also injury prone, Blacket's loan ends in June, the only light in this dark defensive tunnel is it looks like Ambrose is going also. My nerves could not stand him as our cb in the CL again.
So at the very least we need a decent right back and a centre back minimum, and if Izziguirre goes also we will need cover for young Tierney also.
So Rodgers will need to have players in mind for these troublesome positions.

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31 May 2016 23:11:14
Hope he does an under 20 loan in from Chelsea has been talked about Ya Ya Toures brother is going to be a free agent could be a possibility maybe? Only time will tell hopefully he will pull a rabbit out the hat so to speak.

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01 Jun 2016 00:23:53
I am sure B Rodgers is fully aware of the out goings and weaknesses in our defence . It will be interesting to see if he is concerned with Timalloy's nerves, as the rest of us certainly don't like Timalloy with nerves at breaking point. He may consider playing one of our younger centre halves. I think we have a couple around 20 yrs of age and maybe either or both could be successful for us .

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01 Jun 2016 01:33:37
Come august i want KT, lustig, Erik, Simunovic and O'Connell to be the only familiar faces on the books. Lustig given a run in the middle or sparingly on the right.
So 2 rb's, 1 left and a quality cb minimum I'd say.

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01 Jun 2016 09:39:31
Good. It should be a priority. An experienced CB would seriously boost our whole defence.

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01 Jun 2016 10:00:05
Young Irish bhoy Kelleher another highly thought of might be due a chance.

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01 Jun 2016 21:46:49
There is plenty of time, the transfer window hasn't woke up, so keep calm, don't get yourselves worked up, we have enough on board already to win our first qualifying tie and we have nearly 8 weeks to get positions strengthened before we play our 2nd qualifying tie . That tie would test us but we really need to be strengthened for the play- off tie in the middle of August .
Really we should be very calm about players in, we should worry about the quality of players in . Worrying about players not coming in would be a terrible thing if B R started worrying that way, because then he could drop his standards . don't Start worrying for at least a month.

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01 Jun 2016 21:46:49
There is plenty of time, the transfer window hasn't woke up, so keep calm, don't get yourselves worked up, we have enough on board already to win our first qualifying tie and we have nearly 8 weeks to get positions strengthened before we play our 2nd qualifying tie . That tie would test us but we really need to be strengthened for the play- off tie in the middle of August .
Really we should be very calm about players in, we should worry about the quality of players in . Worrying about players not coming in would be a terrible thing if B R started worrying that way, because then he could drop his standards . don't Start worrying for at least a month.

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31 May 2016 18:02:24
Hail hail all from sunny Cyprus can't wait for the new season mom the hoops.

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31 May 2016 11:21:05
hey ED have you heard anything about any move about the backroom team staff on the coaching side of things and we don't need fletcher he is a flop he is well lazy doesn't score goals but Danny graham looks that we couid have a punt on.

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{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't touch either Fletcher or Danny Graham. Fletcher's been garbage for years and Graham's had more clubs than Tiger Woods and Jim Mortimer put together, he'll be 31 in August and his career average is a goal every 3.5 matches, is that really anywhere near good enough?
Seeing the players we're being linked with isn't exactly filling me with confidence for next season.}

31 May 2016 15:39:56
Danny Graham is an absolute diddy and should not be anywhere near a Celtic Jersey and I've already had a similar point posted about fletcher.
I would imagine the Sevco press are just fishing and filling space in their gutter-garbage because the seasons over and they have nothing better to do?
The priority is clearing the deadwood and dross that would freei-up more funds for a couple of really decent additions.
It is always hard attracting quality to our league but the new manager may have more clout and contacts than we have had for a wee while now?

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31 May 2016 18:10:11
Ed007 I wouldn't have the slightest bit of worry about the players we are been linked with by the MSSM . They are just doing what they are good at, upsetting Celtic fans and trying to provide some solace to the Rangers fans,
There is no reason to believe that Fletcher and D Graham are actual targets of Celtic .
We have been after Fletcher that often that they are bound to sell him to us with 100% discount for persistence 😄😄.

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31 May 2016 18:52:10
Very underwhelmed recently with some of the names being linked, Grigg/ Graham/ Fletcher are all names that don't get me excited having already purchased my season ticket in the hope of watching someone in the ilk of Jonathan Soriano/ Finboggason/ Ben Yedder or even Zlatan which I know is pie in the sky but you never know.

We've pushed the boat out for a manager, it's time we did the same for a striker. Those names we've been linked with is not pushing the boat out imo, far from it.

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31 May 2016 21:01:12
Every transfer window all we hear about is finboggason, what exactly has this guy done to earn this clamour for his signature, granted he may be better than your pukkis and balde s but that's not saying much, and what kind of season had he had I watch a lot of football and never hear him mentioned puzzling.

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31 May 2016 23:17:55
Could you imagine how the Celtic fans would react if Rodgers brings in Flecther or Graham in his first transfer window is the most important one. He could loose have the fans before he has really begun I hope he gets it right.

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31 May 2016 23:41:14
Celticforever don't listen to the paper talk about players we are linked to. Let's wait and see who gets moved out and who comes in. Brendon Rodgers will make a big difference to us next season. I think it will be a good year.

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01 Jun 2016 00:38:32
All the positive stuff on here last week is slowly but surely disappearing. Fuck sake lads most of the names mentioned will never pull on the hoops! In brendan we trust!

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01 Jun 2016 02:01:21
We have 10 days till the Euros kicks off. I'd want a couple of deals done sharpish before then. It's always a hindrance with summer football. Participating players that have decent contract length will be difficult to sign.

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01 Jun 2016 02:13:44
Mate most players involved in the euros won't be interested in signing with us the now. They'll probably wait n see if they're stock rises.

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01 Jun 2016 21:48:56
I have no interest in signing a player in June unless the player is really exceptional and in a position we really want to fill.

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01 Jun 2016 21:48:56
I have no interest in signing a player in June unless the player is really exceptional and in a position we really want to fill.

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31 May 2016 10:26:02
Just reading back over the posts from yesterday, particularly some posters bemoaning the lack of new signings yet, I think Rodgers is doing the right thing, clearing the decks first which frees up squad spaces, gets rid of the under achievers and frees upwages also.
Does anyone disagree with any of the players let go? I know I don. t they had to go the Coles, Kazim-Richards etc waste of wages and a jersey.
Brendan will bring in his choices when the time is right. So come on bhoys let's all keepthe faith.

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31 May 2016 11:13:29
The whole situation with Cole and CKR shows just what a joke our recruitment structure has become. Would like to think this is a case of BT clearing house to see what he has to work with and what he needs in. Don't think there's an immediate panic for signings but would like to see us have a couple of players in in the next 2 weeks.

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31 May 2016 11:37:50
Agree Timalloy, I think it's totally right to do what we are doing punt the players who aren't good enough first. For a few seasons now we have had far too many fringe players. Clear what we don't want then we see where we are and what we need. There's arguably a good 8-10 players we could get rid off. That's a lot of wages than can be put elsewhere. I'm sure Rodgers will know who he wants no point rushing into panic buys. We have the base of a good team a few tweaks here and there and we will be ok for the qualifiers.

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31 May 2016 14:49:05
I said yesterday that I was pleased we are 'clearing the decks' before we make any significant signings. Obviously we have several players that have no future at Celtic, but the new manager will have to run the rule over all of the squad (including those who were out on loan) to see how many are committed to the club, are will be in his plans and confirm areas where we need to strengthen.
I am sure there will be a few more out the door before we start the new season and hopefully some added class.
There is a good feeling of positivity and anticipation amongst the support that has been missing recently and the board will have sensed this with the unbelievable reception Brendan Rodgers received on his appointment.

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31 May 2016 18:12:04
I also think that Rodgers is doing a good job not buying contracted players before the transfer window opens.

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31 May 2016 17:01:50
Your right Timalloy. Its alarming the amount of deadwood we have at club that should of been moved on years ago. wouldn't be surprised if we have agreed deals in principle for players, but no announcements made untill these players are moved on.

Makes you wonder how much these players are costing club each week.

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31 May 2016 23:52:54
Yes, DN, there is a lot of players that should be moved on, you would probably disagree with me on which ones, but let us leave that upto Brendan, but I think it would be better to use the Euro championships as a sort of shop window for up and coming lesser known, (at the minute ) , talented players, I haven't seen Albania play for instance, but there might be a few rough diamonds there, the name Albania has always intrigued me, as the Romans used to call Scotland Alba, was Abania set up by these escaped slaves from the Roman empire, who used to hail from Larkhall or Hamilton.

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01 Jun 2016 00:38:28
The biggest problem facing most clubs at anyone time is getting rid of players who either were never much good or who have very little ambition left and are happy drawing their monthly cheque and doing nothing or very little in return . A good agent has got them set up for 3/ 4 years . Some like Commons have a reputation of playing well when either his contract is coming up for renewal or review .

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01 Jun 2016 23:59:33
Sammy in that category as well Oldbhoy, aithough i think Commons has been getting a bad press, just because Ronnie had this pathological obsession with fitness and only if you were a twenty four hour athlete you could get in one off his team selections, Commons would have played a lot more games last season, but he didn't and he wasnt a happy chappy, I have some sympathy for him, Ronnie must go down as one of the most inept managers we have ever had.

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02 Jun 2016 20:48:26
Aindoh, how many Celtic manager 'teams have you watched live . I am only asking as most of your posts are ridiculing R D and now I read that you think Ronny must go down as one of the most inept managers we ever had .

But then again you have sympathy for Commons and that does speak volumes of your judgement.

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31 May 2016 08:05:50
Anybody heard anything about Will Grigg?

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{Ed001's Note - I heard his favourite meal is bangers and mash, but the mash has to be Smash or he will not eat it. I also heard he once beat Adebayo Akinfenwa in an arm wrestle. His favourite animal is the ocelot. He is allergic to cabbages. His pet hate is real ale. He once tried snorting coke, but found the bubbles too much for his nose. He likes to go for romantic strolls in the rain, so should fit in nicely in Glasgow.... (warning some of these facts might not be true).}

31 May 2016 18:14:56
He said himself on Saturday that he had heard nothing about contact with Celtic nor anyone else, he was just concentrating on his Wigan career and his North of Ireland career.

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31 May 2016 19:06:59
Old boy that's a generic answer that all footballers and managers say to the media. It means absolutely jack

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01 Jun 2016 00:39:42
Pedro are you saying Irish men tell lies, I am ashamed of you a Celtic fan thinking that.

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01 Jun 2016 02:06:49
When i read that I thought ed001 had been creeping on Griggs online dating profile with such acute analysis 😅.

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{Ed001's Note - hey I have to find something to fill my days and Tinder is a very good way to pass the time.... ;-)

31 May 2016 02:05:36
I really hope we don't see commons in a hoops tops again. Together with his missus, they are trying to be Mr and Mrs Celtic. Sorry but for me that title will always be Mr Tommy Burns.

Came up from a mediocre team called Derby, nearly signed for ibrokes and flaunts himself as a superstar, humiliates manager, on yer way!

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31 May 2016 07:43:06
Well said, - I saw through Commons a long time ago! Everything revolves around him, also like you said, he tries to come across as being all noble, when really in the background he's causing trouble, a bad atmosphere, and making everyone's life harder. I wouldn't even have him back for pre-season training, I'd tell him to find a club and that we'll pay his wages until then, even pay him off if we need to! Anyway Brendan Rodgers also likes a pressing game, and as we know that's a fault with Commons, that doesn't suit him, it's too much hard work!

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01 Jun 2016 00:45:42
Dn30 and Delphic You will be delighted to know I agree completely .
I think R D was in enough trouble without him doing what he did during that European night . The thing was it took a youngster, I forget who, to tell him to wise up. I thought it was reasonable for R D to replace him at that stage of the match as he must have been tired out standing on the one spot for about an hour.

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