Celtic Banter Archive May 31 2014

 

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31 May 2014 23:23:32
Would just like to see some peoples thoughts do you think Roy Keane is the person to take Celtic Football Club to the next level . (I personally do not ) As I think we need someone that will change the club from bottom to top ). I do think he will make a good manager though at present . This moment in time though we need a game changer someone who can change the thinking of the club and thinks outside the box . We have no competition for the league so should experiment a little. As jock Stien did with his differing technics . I do not now the answers but I think Ronald Koeman or haken Yakin sorry for spelling may be the better bet just now . Ask Roy in 2-3 years after understudy to MON . I would like to apologise for spelling as I'm a bit drunk.

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My money is on Craig Gordon, Kieran Richardson and the big irish midfielder Andrews first name a think is Keith @ Brighton

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01 Jun 2014 06:26:30
I agree with you Tam %100

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Being honest the appointment, if it actually happens, worries me a little. A strong willed and fiercely defensive character in the corrupt, in a journalistic, administrative and refereeing sense, country, may be too much of a distraction for him.

There is also the managerial history, which is chequered at best. I also agree that we need a wind of change blowing through Celtic, in EVERY way.I would have loved Garcia as he said the right things, but it seems there has been no actual interview system, just a series of calls to the chosen few.That is also a worry.

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Don't you think though one advantage of keane would be that he could attract some top players to come to parkhead?

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31 May 2014 21:50:10
Right Bhoys & Ghirls it looks like keano for the big job. So who is he going to look to sign. Does he look at Irsh players (limited). (eng championship) or can he entice someone from the EPL. or a decent foreign player

Thoughts please

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01 Jun 2014 01:31:18
Going off the way in which he goes for players he's familiar with, or players who have played for teams he's familiar with I'd have Rio alongside Virgil! Seb Larsson, Nicklas Bendtner, Mame Diouf, Ciaran Clark, Connor Wickham, Jamaal Lascelles, maybe Henry Lansbury or even Darren Fletcher. Then again we could get Carlos Edwards! Sure Park will already have a list though.

I think he'll be able to attract people. Which players playing now won't have heard of Roy Keane?

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31 May 2014 20:39:50
For all you nae sayers out there remember Venglos Jansen and everyone who went before saying who and no well while we argue if RK is good enough for Celtic remember the luxury of us signing a box office name when the newco are talking about The Slug. What a difference a few years make. You can't keep everyone happy. Live with it give him a chance if he's coming I welcome it.

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I don't think he's any worse than the names in the frame, I would also say he's better than some.

The kinda outsider names mentioned aren't going to hang about, they'll be the Wanyama's of the Manager world and there's no guarantees they'd do any better than Neil Lennon or Strachan.

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Dr venglos who won two titles in his 36 year career and they were 24 years before joining us, was his tenure with us good?, yes if rk gets the job then its back him and let him prove he's the man for the job, but imo he would be getting the job on who he is rather than his managerial credentials

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01 Jun 2014 12:48:15
Roy Keane is a legend of the British game, he has experience, good and bad. If he gets the job he will at the very least do as well as NL. He's a winner and doesn't take any nonsense and most of all he tells the truth, good or bad. As long as the pampered players can stomach a little bit of honesty and not go crying to PL behind his back then he will do a good job. The money is not there to take us to the next level I'm afraid so not top European manager is going to consider the job seriously.

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31 May 2014 19:33:06
So RK according to most of yous on here is no use, ad love to know when Celtic fans got so up there own arse, we are talkin about an absolute legend of the game that went to a club like Sunderland that the great MON couldn't turn round, and we as Celtic men are usin this to beat the man, personally I think he would be a great appointment.

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I like him :-)

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A thug more like. Remember Alf Inge Haaland? Wonder what opinion would be if keane was responsible for ending john kennedy career. Actually forgot all about this till today.

I was one of the ones who slated celtic for signing leigh griffiths cause of his thug nature. i'm not double standards, he not welcome

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{Ed007's Note - You're wrong there DN and believing BS without reading the facts, Keane was NOT responsible for Haaland's career ending. Keane done Haaland on his right knee, it was his already injured left knee that finished him and Haaland has confirmed that. Haaland actually finished playing the Man Utd match, he then played an international in midweek AND played in City's following game before getting an op on his already damaged LEFT knee.}

Personally I hope he signs, it doesn't matter who we sign as manager there will always be people telling you they don't want him. I just hope whoever it is going to be it is done soon so we can get behind him and get prepared for Europe

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@ed I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries. Talking about Alf Inge Haaland tackle, quoted in book Keane - the Autobiography .

I personally don't want someone like that in charge.

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{Ed007's Note - I've read the book, several times. You insinuated Keane ended Haaland's career though and he didn't, if you're going to use something against someone you're better off finding out if it's true first.}

An absolute legend in central midfield as a player, but not as a manager, and to appoint him as our manager because martin oneill managed sunderland is lunacy, his managerial record is below average and that's why people don't want him

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Never fancied him as a player, but that's not why I don't want him as manager . He is a throw back to the old days of players running through brick walls for there manager it won't work anymore . He doesn't inspire me, can you really see his team playing free flowing attacking football? Players today need to be molly coddled and to have performance's coxed out of them, screaming and ranting won't work . I would love a boss who would have us playing a fast passing attacking game, I don't think he is much of a technical coach . Just my opinion 😊

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@ed fair enough. But end of the day it can't be 1 rule for the likes of lee griffiths and different for roy keane cause there is an emotional attachment to him. What kind of example is that setting for upcoming youth? Double standards

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{Ed007's Note - I can't see how there is any comparisons.}

@Malleybhoy: 'An absolute legend of the game' For sure, but football is littered with those who could not cut it in management.
@Fab1: Never fancied him as a player? really.Watch Juve v Utd when, after being booked and knowing he would miss the CL final, he gave maybe the greatest midfield display of a generation.Oh, and dry your eyes ED I know that display brings the waterworks for you mate!

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31 May 2014 12:11:32
Alright ed,

See McDermott has left Leeds, do you know something the rest of us don't regarding Wee Chesney?

Only yesterday you were saying if he was offered that job he would find it hard to refuse.

Beginning to think your some sort of undercover football messiah.

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{Ed007's Note - Hahaha not quite. I did knowMcDermott was for the chop and if Leeds financial problems have been sorted I think Strachan might fancy it if he was offered the chance but the new owners might stick with what they know and appoint an Italian.}

31 May 2014 23:16:40
I'd rather 10 Roy keanes we in my team,than 10 Owen "barcleys premiership" coyle any day of the week

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31 May 2014 13:51:11
Strachan seems to be getting a lot of praise on here regarding his time as Celtic manager, while I liked him and thought he did ok his interviews had me hidin behind the couch. But isn't his record not very similar to Lennon, yet Lennon is getting it in the neck on here. Is this the same Strachan that had Caldwell/McManus in the team as well as Telfer lol.

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Strachan did an excellent job given that he had to decrease the wage bill during his time, it could be argued that we might not be so fiscally healthy without him.

As for his interviews? I could not care less how he treated some of the most biased and anti Celtic reporters on the planet to be honest. Tactically sound, he seemed to be more worried about losing than winning towards the end of his tenure. For me a more successful manager than Lennon.

You cite Caldwell, McManus and Telfer, yet he still won and had some good results in Europe.

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Has Lennon not downsized as well tho.

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@rayman; Not so much. The cash for big Vic and Hooper has covered up the cash spent on players who never/will never cut the mustard.

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As I have stated on here many times jhedi Lennon made the club millions.He can't get it right every time no one can esp at the level he was buyin at.

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31 May 2014 12:17:16
Ricky Lambert to Liverpool for 4m at 32 years of age.

What is that all about?

Are Liverpool ready to go back to their usual mediocrity, sign a load of players who make no difference to the team.

Is this because he is part of the World Cup squad and if so what kind of price bracket would this put big foster in?

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But don't you think Rogers has earned the right to shape his team as he sees fit? Lambert may well be a 'plan b' striker or be used to rest the first choice strike force. Either way he has earned the trust of the board, the fact that money is sploshing around that league does help as well.

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31 May 2014 14:44:43
Personally a think big lambert will do a job for liverpool next season he will give them something different. For all the brilliant football they played last season look at the chelsea game when they couldn't break them down and started lumping balls in the box that's wer lambert will come in handy. 4m for 32 year old is pretty steep but could be 4m well spent in the long term

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Lambert's being signed as backup, Liverpool only have Suarez n Sturridge as recognised first team strikers. Going into Europe with only your two first choice strikers would be a certainty to end in disaster. Can't rely on Suarez n Sturridge to play 55-60 games in a season!

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{Ed007's Note - I'll be surprised if Suarez is still at LFC next season. Him and his people have already started their annual game of playing silly buggers.}

It's great business. Scored and assisted more than any player outside United, City, Arsenal and Chelski. Got a couple years left and 4m ain't much of an investment for a BPL club. He's a Liverpool man too.

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31 May 2014 01:30:18
Although I think keane will become a very good manager in the future I don't think he has the experience just yet to become the next celtic manager.

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He has, we would all hope, experience in management through good spells and bad at two clubs.My worry is I never seen any team he set up play dazzling football and some of his purchases were, to be blunt, fecking awful. He bought Diouff!

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30 May 2014 23:42:12
Cud we have a poll ed? Has DN30 ever posted a positive thread or response lol? Strange a so called Celtic fan never has a good thing to say about his club.

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{Ed007's Note - He's entitled to his opinion.}

Of course he is but still very strange!

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{Ed007's Note - We have to dare to be ourselves, however frightening or strange that self may prove to be.}

Rattled your cage rayman? What exactly are the "positives" at the moment?

Whether you like it or not your hero lennon has left a mess for new manager to try and sort out.

Cue "last 16" chat

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Strange? Because I like many other posters on this page, can read through the lines and see the wood from the trees.

Hey rayman, its not your fault your taking in by the media PR machine in operation at celtic just now. But see if club do not get next manager appointment right, watch the sh*t hit the fan and guarantee you will be first to jump ship.

By the way, thank you for dedicating a thread to myself. Just shows how wound up you are that you have no reasonable argument against my opinion.

Involving ed in the manner you have, demonstrates the persona you have- when going gets tough, frantically involve others for moral support cause things are not going your way. Hohohohoho blow on this rayman

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What's this mess Lennon has left us in? He's left a squad full of hungry young players

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I'd have voted yes, I think always wanting better for the club shows DN has a positive mental attitude, same as myself. Never settle for less, always strive for better. Nowadays there's too many Celtic fans happy to settle for less!

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Well you guys must like the appointment of Keane as he is another man who will settle for nothing but the best and his expectations will exceed qualifying for last 16. I'm with you on this as I feel Keane will prove a great appointment. Totally disagree that Lennon has left a mess, don't know where you get that from. I feel our squad with a few quality additions (not more squad players) has great potential to achieve the standards we expect from our great club

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Nothing wrong with wanting better HB, but everything is wrong according to DN.Never seen him have a good word to say about Celtic just criticices manager, team, Lawwell.Now Desmond is getting it, like him I have my opinion and for a long time I have had my suspicion he from a land called sevco.

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Keane will be worse marty. Here we go rayman, the classic get out jail card- he must be sevco. A pathetic deflection tactic initiated because my views are not the same as yours, that because i'm am not taking in by the PR media machine in operation I must be sevco. Are you for real?

@LM67 aye your right-pukki, balde, boerighter and ambrose. Rest my case

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Not a deflection tactic but an opinion based on your posts. I have yet to see you say anything good about our great club is that not strange to you.Be a supporter do you know the meaning of the word? You berated Lennon fair enough yet you can't accept he made millions for the club where is your subjectivity?

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Alright so basically anyone who does not share same views as you rayman are sevconian? Because I like many others are not happy with way the club is being run, am not a supporter? That is your only argument in defence of lennon, has made us money. I have proved based on his signings alone it is a negative. Roy keane is being judged on signings he made alone at sunderland, there can be no exception for lennon.

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Lol you have proved? try again. I defo proved otherwise and others on here know this. It was also quoted in a newspaper when he left all his signings and he hade 14 m according to that, and that not including Mcgeady.You have to give him credit for sellin players he never signed for big money all managers sell players when they come in, and even if YOU don't then you would have to give him credit for the 30 m odd of talent he has got in the current squad. Will you ever give him credit for that lol.

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Oh there is nothing wrong with havin a diff opinion mate, but let me ask you this. Is there anything you like about our great cub?

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Of course there is. Our history, our heritage, to name a few. Pointless question again from you. My heart bleeds celtic. Not so sure about you though

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Park, Lawwell seems to be the ones with the can't do no wrong status, finds Wanyama, Hooper etc, best scout in the whole wide world, finds Baldie, Pukki etc and it was NLs fault not Parks for scouting them not Lawwell for buying them .
Its my opinion that Lennon left because of the lack of control he had on buys and sells .
The latest stars will be punted of this summer which would have left him on a rebuilding agenda not a fine tuning exercise. The last batch of stiffs were a forced hand which Park and Lawwell are equally responsible for, not just NL.

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@TTTS mate I'm of the belief we need a total shake up on and off the field.

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@DN Shame on you, not 1 mention of our team or any player you like.Funny that, do you not enjoy going to games? Or do you not go because you can't be in 2 places at once because sevco playin lol.

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@rayman aye cause forrest, ambrose, boerighter, pukki, balde really ignite the play on pitch.

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Again funny that you chose 4 players who have hardly played and not the 1s that did ignite. Can you tell me this, where is Ambrose playin his football this summer?

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