Celtic Banter Archive January 31 2016

 

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31 Jan 2016 21:25:27
Ed007 what's your honest opinion on Ronnys future? Do you think he will be the man to try and lead us into the champions league again next year? Or is he just keeping the seat warm for someone else? I personally feel we need a bigger personality someone who will have his say on who comes and who goes in the transfer windows not be PL puppy dog! I don't blame him for today but let's be honest we have been very poor this season and looking at our team today there is no way we will be in the champions league with that team next season we lack leaders when brown is not in the team to many players hide. We also lack quality! We need someone to come in and shake things up get rid of the deadwood and build a team round a few of our promising youngsters, Christie, Nesbitt, Henderson, Tierney, bring in some quality and a manager who will take no prisoners!

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{Ed007's Note - Yes I think RD will still be manager next season.}

31 Jan 2016 20:50:44
Edd do you think there will be anyone leaving before the deadline we have to big a squad and a lot of players picking up wages and not getting game time . only my opinion but I would like to see squad reduced with better quality rather than a large squad of average players .

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{Ed007's Note - I'd be surprised if anyone of any note leaves, you might find some youngsters going out on loan. There will probably be a bid or two for James Forrest and possibly a final try from China for Ambrose. I can't understand why Boeriggter is still here and he might accept the pay-off on offer if he can get a club in Holland to sign him.}

31 Jan 2016 22:13:30
Just read start of Record report on game. Apparently Celtic were outplayed by the Stsggies from the moment Ambrose was sent off. This guy is paid to write this? 11 players against 10 not worth mentioning. Sad attempt to up the ante on a game where 1 player lost the game. Considering the size of the pitch and conditions, I believe the Celtic players ran their guts out.

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31 Jan 2016 22:44:53
OK we had a player sent off, that doesn't justify the capitulation I have watched many Celtic teams with ten men win games against better teams than we played today. the difference was those team had heart and fight. We had four posers in the midfield today I saw Johansen jump out of two tackles then when the game is all but over he slides in with a foul to try to con the supporters that he is a hard man. Wee have no fight or spirit and that is the managers fault he picks mentally and physically weak players week in week out. He had no idea how to affect the game today and did his usual of making like for like substitutes. Sad as it is we have a bleak future with him in charge.

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31 Jan 2016 20:55:16
I see John Terry is up for grabs. Mind you, doubt if we would consider his wages but we could do with someone to help Broonie.

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31 Jan 2016 20:54:15
Ambrose needs to have played his last game for Celtic today. I'm sick of him and do not care about the decent run he has had. In far too many big games he has killed us. We were all over that game before his nonsense, just like the Fenerbache game and God knows how many others. Anyone blaming RD for today is just looking for ammo. Domestic double more than attainable and genuinely believe we can kick on under RD. Never want to see that big clown Ambrose near a Celtic jersey again though.

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31 Jan 2016 21:44:18
Davie

I honestly want RD to succeed, even if Lee MCCulloch, Barry Ferguson or Bomber Brown was our manager I would hope they would be a success but even the biggest lover of RD has to admit that they guy is completely out of his depth.

1) Never, ever, ever has a plan B. When 3 1 down today his big subs were a holding midfielder for a holding midfielder and an excuse for a winger for an even worse excuse for a winger. Why not another striker or even young Nesbitt to sit in behind Griffiths and just have 1 holding midfielder?

2) Appalling record in Europe. We are now an absolute laughing stock in Europe and if you think that is going to change under RD then you are delusional.

3) Signings a joke. How many out of 19/20 have been a success?

4) Youth policy. One area where he has done well... for Man City! To be fair Tierney does look ok but when we had to endure the defensive talents of Izzy for the last 3 or 4 years ANYTHING is an upgrade. McGregor has been in and out and the best young talent in our squad has been loaned out to Hibs. Apart from that can you really say that anyone we have produced has been given a chance? Good reports about Fasan but we buy Bailly who can't displace Gordon, O'Connell pumped out on loan, same with Fisher who looked good when he played. So many midfielders our own will never get a chance. Not heard anything about the youth strikers but surely one of them has to be better than Ciftci? If not we should shut the youth sides down completely.

Apart from that he is alright!

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31 Jan 2016 19:30:19
Just seen RD interview calls it exactly as a said and seen first goal is a penalty but just seen the replay on TV news CG getting to it all day long not a sending off

second goal CG is held and fouled clearly they worked on that in training! without a doubt a foul!

It's always the same now in these cups regardless who is in charge other team go looking for the contentious decisions and play exactly for it!

Wise up to it don't lose the rag and don't lose a MAN!

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31 Jan 2016 20:20:10
Agree it was a foul for their second goal, however given CG has never come for a cross ball in his life, the end result was probably the same. Saying that, can't blame Delia for the players making poor decisions when on the pitch.

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31 Jan 2016 20:23:23
We should have buried them regardless
The team never showed up today.

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31 Jan 2016 20:45:23
TimyTim issue us we don't turn up on the big occasion. When things start to go wrong we have no plan to change how we are playing! Teams that come to play us know exactly how we are going to set up and play. When we were 3-1 down do you think the best player to put on the field was Brown? We are told by Ronnid that he can see improvement and some of the fans believe it because he says we are improving. It's Emperors new cloths crap. We are not improving. We are going backwards and I have been saying that since our CL exit in July.

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31 Jan 2016 19:09:35
Hi guys, been a long time reader of this site and thought it would be time to sign up. Firstly Ed continue the good work, although sometimes I don't agree with your opinion ;)

RD has to go now, it was a massive gamble that didn't pay off. The man makes me cringe evertime he's on TV, he sounds clueless and proves it with his decisions on the park. I hate all this crap that people think he's a nice guy and all that, I don't care! Celtic fans don't want nice, we want trophies and European success. I do not trust this manager to guide us through CL qualifying, it's going to be embarrassing results after the other. That's why he has to go NOW! We need to get a new manager in and let him settle in before July. The sad thing is - I don't think the board will act, simply because it will make them look like fools for employing a man from nowhere then sacking him. They have to act now as it will only get worse from here. No more excuses please it's getting boring, he is not cut out for being manager of this great club.

Aberdeen game on Wednesday night is massive!

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31 Jan 2016 20:00:37
So, players make mistakes and you want the manager sacked? I hope your boss is more understanding Mr knee jerk.

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31 Jan 2016 20:19:13
Bankiebhoy do you honestly think Conbhoys opinion is a knee jerk reaction, doubt it. Like most with a sane mind he thinks its time for this amatuer manager to go now before it gets any worse. The player that made the mistake is awful and should never wear the hoops again like 1 or 2 others in the team. All the bedwetters that think we should stand by him because he's a nice man and good with the youth need a shake, they seem brainwashed with the idea he's gonny get it all sorted out. Fools the lot of them.

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31 Jan 2016 20:25:02
That's how it works bankie players keep making mistakes the manager gets the sack. Ps it's not knee jerk it's just many people don't feel he's the man to manage us now. could you honestly say you felt confident once ambrose was sent off that Ronny would get the team organised to deal with being a man short?

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31 Jan 2016 20:28:58
Mr knee jerk? Don't make me laugh! The excuses are getting beyond a joke now. So when team wins we hail the manager but when the team loses we blame the players? Don't be stupid. All the responsibility is on the manager, always has and always will. You honestly think RD is the man for Celtic?

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31 Jan 2016 20:41:49
Can't see any blame to aportion to RD today. Ambrose was on good vein of form and killed game with his poor decision making. Always up against it after that. Have my own theories about Efe but they probably wouldn't be posted and I can appreciate why. Will say this though, strange amount of high stake games where he messes up. m.

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31 Jan 2016 20:42:59
Mr knee jerk! Legia Malmo Maribor molde! Just about to equal the EL record for consecutive games without a win! Knee jerk! Away and don't talk Shoite! This guys had chance after chance and hasn't learned a thing! But hey let's wait til he makes a balls up of another European campaign til some people actually open there eyes to the fact this guy isn't and never will be up to the job of managing the club I love! Go back and watch the defending for Ross countys 3 goals! Yes Ross county not Barcelona or bayern! Utter shambolic! But I guess we'll judge him next year! No no that's what he said this time last year! The guys got to go now! And take the other 2 with him! How anyone can defend this guy is absolutely staggering by the way!

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31 Jan 2016 22:22:49
Daviebhoy 77 you were saying earlier that EA was a match fixer! Have u forgotten? For what it's worth I am also a big conspiracy theorist, but you're better to keep that for the 'talk conspiracy' page. HH!

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31 Jan 2016 22:37:35
We sack deila and end up back to square one with sorting out squad etc. Persevere with the man it was Ambrose who cost us today if not for that the game would have been over by halftime.

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31 Jan 2016 23:21:53
After the shambles that was Europe, we again started to string some results together [including an 8-1 victory] after the new year as we did the past few seasons when the pressure is off.
Not for the first time we get to a semi final as odds-on favourites and get the best possible start - but a controversial decision or an adverse event and our bottle crashes and although there is effort, we are devoid of ideas, creativity or class.
Griffiths did miss a penalty, but we rarely looked like scoring from open play because we don't have the talent or craft up front and we have the worst defence and keeper in many a year.
Forget the manager for a minute and reflect that there has been a huge problem at Celtic for many a year with bottle, determination, leadership and guts right through the club for too long.
Ross County twice, Kilmarnock, Hearts and Inverness have all sent us home from Hamden in disarray and we cannot always blame the honest mistake merchants as better managers and players have overcome this in their stride.

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31 Jan 2016 18:43:48
Ed
Hindsight and all BUT

Domestic semi final and Ross county. Do you think today we could have started with two up top and caught them out with a different strategy?

I know we scored early but this was an opportunity to vary tactics. We started with the ineffective amtmstrong on the left side ( right footed ) . Was there any need for that really?

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31 Jan 2016 19:51:57
No. I think that if Ambrose hadn't got sent off (and conceded a penalty/ equalizer) we would have scored 4 or 5.

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31 Jan 2016 19:54:32
It was the sending off and general bad refereeing that cost us today. Before the sending off we were destroying them with just one striker.

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31 Jan 2016 19:59:31
We don't do 'vary' 'different' or 'alternative'. what i'm told we do is high tempo, pressing, attractive football but we don't seem to that either.

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31 Jan 2016 20:52:12
Ambrose DID get sent off and we didn't get 4 or 5 goals. No plan B to turn to. The management team are at best junior level. Best to deal in facts and not what ifs. Our club is going in a downward spiral under RD. Dreaming about what couldve beens getting boring.

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31 Jan 2016 21:38:39
@Bhrydobhoy

I suggest you look at the original post - the whole thing was a hypothetical coulda/ woulda/ shoulda. That's what I was referring to.

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31 Jan 2016 22:17:13
Poeticpatient maybe you could refer to my post. I don't do ifs buts or maybes, its fantasy land stuff. Which is my point.

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31 Jan 2016 22:47:35
You directly replied to my reply - and omitted the context of the original post. If you don't understand the problem with that, then good luck to you.

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31 Jan 2016 23:36:56
The original post was an 'if' we started with 2 up top. You replied with an 'if' Ambrose wasnt sent off. To which i stated that 'Best not to deal with ifs' but to deal with facts/ reality. Now. maybe you could stop being pretentious and a kiddy on wordsmith with your journo/ politician speak and make a REAL point about things that actually happened. if only.

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31 Jan 2016 23:53:29
Actually, the point of my 'if' was negate the original point IE if my Aunty had bollocks she'd be my Uncle. You didn't get that and had to be literal with your response. Fine. Whatever.

Excuse me whilst I'll ignore the rest of your nonsense as I have a campaign to run/ article to write.

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31 Jan 2016 18:34:05
Getting away from all the RD love/ hate can anyone tell me the players they genuinely rely on in the current squad when we are up against it? The player you have a feeling will pull it out the bag for us?

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31 Jan 2016 18:46:22
Niall

There are none as demonstrated against Maribor Malmo ICT and Ross county

We lack steel and determination. We have a soft heart

Too many nearly men

I thought bitton went through game today half dead but we love his class and guile.

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31 Jan 2016 19:04:31
Commons griff.

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31 Jan 2016 19:07:34
As soon as we went a goal behind/ ever go a goal behind I feel like we have very few players who are able to either produce a bit of magic or graft to get something. Nobody with a bit of flair or even just some balls.

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31 Jan 2016 19:25:19
None! But we've had a good last 2/ 3 weeks so it's fine Lol.
It's not totally the players fault tho, they've been told how how to play shape/ tactics/ pressure!
Too lightweight and scared to tackle or get in about it, something wrong somewhere (for months not just today)

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31 Jan 2016 21:27:43
I agree with Commons and Griffiths in a way but apart from that we don't have anyone else.

I remember being 1 nil down to Dundee United in the Scottish Cup When the temporary stand was up and scoring 2 goals in the last 2 minutes. 3 - 2 down to Aberdeen about 4 years back and we turned it round to win 4 - 3.

I don't expect us to do this every week but the difference is that I was either there, watching on the TV or listening to the radio with a belief that we could do it. Now.... Absolutely no chance.

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31 Jan 2016 18:23:46
The sign in the Celtic dressing room says the celtic shirts don't shrink to fit mediocare players. well there are too many mediocare players currently playing at celtic park. From the goalkeeper to the outside left. There were no players standing tall and taking control after we were reduced to 10 men especally in midfield. Only Tierney and Griffiths (i know about the penalty but he never gave up or stop running) got pass marks. Poor defending again cost us a big game that is down to the coaching. If RD loses on wednesday that shold be his last game.

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31 Jan 2016 19:07:41
Too many players. think they are. playing for Dundee Utd, different kettle of fish here.
I know we were playing the Refs Association again, and they will do anything to stop us winning a treble. tags while Sevco are down,
But it didn't stop us in the 60s and 70s . Because we were FKN GOOD, not now. It only makes it easier for the. Bastards.

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31 Jan 2016 19:28:35
It was the referee that cost us the game so stop talking pish.

The Ambrose sending off was debatable as the contact looked accidental and minimal. The second goal should never have stood as there was a guy on the goal line with his arms round our keeper, thus preventing him from coming for the cross.

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31 Jan 2016 20:16:32
Rabmac Craig Gordon is a professional footballer. As a goalkeeper you need to expect to be held or blocked. It's no use crying about it after the event. He has been in pro football for 20 years! That's what happens. As for Ambrose, he did clip the player. Why he did not just stand up on the players right and make the tackle from there. Why go behind the player? Anyway it's contact and last man. That's the rules. He gets a red card. Look for all the excuses you can find.

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31 Jan 2016 17:56:00
Anyone else think that the sending off was Lustigs fault? I know ambrose clipped the atacker but the attacker came from behind lustig and he just stood still and ambrose reacted.

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31 Jan 2016 18:21:25
Was just about to post the same thing mate lustig lost his man but everybody blames ambrose lustigs been useless all season

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31 Jan 2016 18:30:14
He was ball watching and he's the captain. Not good enough. Calamitous defending but that is what we've come to expect from those emerging from the john Kennedy school of defending.

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31 Jan 2016 18:31:14
At last! Someone has said it. He has been awful.

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31 Jan 2016 18:48:07
This has been the first season for ages that Lustig has had a long run in the team - especially without Mathews or the like challenging him for the position and he has been very poor all season.
He was never the bravest of defenders and has had a lot of time out with injury, but this season his, positional sense, distribution and marking has been very poor and concedes too many cheap corners.
When you add this to the basic mistakes, Gordon, Boyata and Ambrose commit game after game and my heart really goes out to young Tierney.

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31 Jan 2016 18:53:30
Agreed. I said below that what concerned me more than the foul was how the ball ended up there in the first place. From where I was, I couldn't be sure it was Lustig -- if I'm honest I thought it was Boyata -- who was at fault, but the point is, mistakes were made before that. Infact, it's not unlike the Hearts game where Ambrose is caught out by his teammates mistakes and sees red.

That all said, I agree Lustig has been very poor over the last 6 months.

Side note, if we could deliver a decent corner we'd be deadly.

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31 Jan 2016 19:01:07
It pains me to say this but lustig has been a great servant to Celtic but he lost his pace both in attack and defending even the third Ross county goal he couldn't even stick a leg out to prevent the through ball, ambrose well when away fans start singing ure name it tells us everything, been a bomb scare an accident waiting to happen, remember Europe, boyata never a Roy Aiken type, bitton decent enough when things are going his way but don't ask him to grab the game by the scruff of the neck, Armstrong too many misplaced passes, gms not in the game enough hides n u can't do that at Celtic, johansen too light weight never good enough why does he get a game ahead of Scott Allen who can play a telling pass I will never know pure rotten, Forrest flatters to deceive hopefully he moves on to bigger things like a lower English division a very lazy player who won't pull u out a hole n drive at teams full of passion n drive, there seems a common theme here players who shouldn't be here there's nobody apart fron Kerian tierney who, ll give there all, next to rotten Ronnie I can't for the life of me understand why that man got the job one up front at Celtic park? I sit in my seat week after week so frustrated at how we play football with no passion drive entertainment and that man comes out with statements week after week about improvement he's never a Celtic manager in his life, this isn't knee jerk its fact let's get a MAN in to do the job go back to Celtic tradition of entertainment passion, we are bigger and better than this.

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31 Jan 2016 19:09:37
I feel like lustig also has a constant limp and moves like a 70 year old. I've always rated him but like people say, at times this season he looks laboured which causes serious problems losing his man.

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31 Jan 2016 19:13:38
Lustig gets . Caught out far too much at the back for my liking, look at the games in Europe etc. He cost us big. time in Europe.

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31 Jan 2016 20:28:40
Have to agree, Lustig caused the situation by Efe did catch the guy who was last man charging down on goal with a fairly good chance. Ref had no choice penalty and red card. Bit harsh but the rule is there for a reason. I personally have felt big Efe has been improving over the last few games as well.

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31 Jan 2016 21:09:40
Down to previous mistakes and the fact he was sent off its too easy to blame efe. i'm not his biggest fan but he was the quickest to react when lustig let the man go. He has been improving the last few games but hopefully jozo and the new bhoy will be first choice. Lustigs legs have gone with all his injuries and for all those that'll say he should be at centre back i don't think he is strong enough or dominant enough.

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31 Jan 2016 17:47:49
Sounds tinfoil hat but I genuinely believe that Ambrose is a match fixer. How many times? Look at that header in Fenerbache game? Realise normally thar clumbsy rather than conspiracy is the likely option but either way he can do one. Need to go.

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31 Jan 2016 18:04:43
your right get yourself an extra thick triple layer tinfoil hat.

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31 Jan 2016 20:32:41
You've cracked it Davie. that's why RD plays him week in and week out - its a team job match fixing. PL probably involved as well to make sure our best players are sold so Efe can't be dropped. I would not be surprised if the ongoing FIFA investigations do not highlight that Blatter is involved with this as well.
Now it is all so clear
lol.

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31 Jan 2016 17:40:45
RAGING! Ronnie's time is up! I gave the guy every chance, honest I did but when you CONTINUALLY play a fud like Efe Ambrose then you deserve all you get! Well done to Ross County. Thought they were outsanding. Bye RD!

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31 Jan 2016 18:35:15
Good teams know how to play with ten men. We don't. We continue lost cheap possession. The corner ( foul aside ) shows continuing deficiencies. The third goal came from our back two and GK messing around and taking no responsibility. The cheap giving away of the ball throughout was a joke

Armstrong is not a left sided midfielder. There was no reason to play efe and boyata together today as they aren't assured or confident enough

RD cannot settle on a first eleven and that is why we are deficient every once and while

The BIG game record is below average and that is a worry.

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31 Jan 2016 20:36:07
We struggle to play well with eleven men at times never mind ten. We did not lose this game just because Efe went off along with the penalty. Not one of our team showed any passion or fight and RC had those traits in abundance. Even at 3-1 they still kept running.

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31 Jan 2016 17:13:44
Ed can you post the link for setting up a android tv box

Got 1 and have no clue what to do

Kidi14.2, android kit kat, mxq box, Ott tv box.

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{Ed007's Note - Have a read through here:

www.android-review.co.uk/

31 Jan 2016 17:19:51
Just back and no doubt the Ronny haters will be foaming at the mouth, but before it goes crazy.

We should have been three up in the first five minutes and you can't legislate for Ambrose missing a golden opportunity after that.

People will no doubt claim it wasn't a red card but from where I was sat it looked like one. More concerning was how the ball ended up in there - but that's a different story.

Everyone on this board waxes lyrical about LG and his form - myself included - but he misses a penalty that, for me, if he scores, changes the game. We were on the ascendancy and they were happy to run the clock down. Even after the sending off, I still think we were the better team across the whole game.

Ambrose has cost us, not RD, and I have no doubt that if he didn't get sent off, we win the game comfortably. And before people jump on and say yeah but RD picks him, Ambrose has been playing well recently - and there's no one else to pick.

Am I disappointed? Yes - gutted in fact - but I don't know how you can blame the manager for this afternoon.

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31 Jan 2016 17:41:03
Spot on mate. You can sense the Ronnie Out Brigade soiling their briefs at the prospect of sticking the knife in once again. Hugely disappointed but not the managers fault.

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31 Jan 2016 17:42:02
I am a RD fan but saying that we all know what Ambrose is capable of and yet we still play him even though we have a CB on the bench so yes this time I do point some of the blame on him Ambrose has cost us some games in the past and if RD insists on playing him more so when we have a player for that position on the bench I am afraid it could cost him his job.

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31 Jan 2016 17:43:47
Rubbish. Delia constantly picks Ambrose when a blind man can see he isn't a football player. What worries me most is that we're getting used to losing these sort of ties! Time for change. NOW!

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31 Jan 2016 17:45:58
If there's no one else to pick then who came on as a sub as soon as he got sent off? The fact is that yes ambrose has played ok recently but if u look back over a prolonged period of time ambrose is a repeat offender when it comes to cock ups, and I think the vast majority of fans would agree that he should be nowhere near the first team squad.

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31 Jan 2016 17:46:00
TPP

Efe that's it for me but I think CG was getting to it mate, defo pen but not a sending off!

CG fouled at the second for me too

But this is like groundhog day that player went looking for that decision as the ball was getting away from him? RD does have to get them smarter than this surely? I know / you know / everyone knows that is the only way we are really going to get beat!

That big decision going against us and that is the biggest disappointment for me RD is a real smart guy why not brief them even NAG them to this denominator/ equation?

Even if we lose a goal to that in open play we still have the time to sort it

LG had an off day today for sure and stepping up to it a thought he was going to miss! but too many were relying on him again RD should have had Armstrong off instead of McGregor IMO SA been carrying niggle/ knocks most of the season and on that heavy pitch had no chance of seeing it through IMO (Y)

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31 Jan 2016 17:50:59
First of all there are no RD haters on here, I certainly am not one. I just believe he doesn't have it to manage us properly.
Our previous manager took loads of stick on here from many many posters maybe including yourself for not getting enough trophies etc.
So what's the difference when RD gets put out the cup?
It seems to me when we get beat its never RDs fault, its either PL JP or not picking his own transfers or injuries etc.
No one and I mean NO ONE knows more than Ronny himself and I am sure he would be the first to tell u ALL our results are his responsibility and his alone.

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31 Jan 2016 17:53:13
@tony2bhoy

As James77 said below:

"If the manager had started with a defender who had not trained with his new team-mates, he would have been hammered if anything was to go wrong. "

As well as which, this is his preseason. If he had started and made an error then the lynch mob would have been out in force anyway.

@Davie Blantyre Bhoy

I get what you're saying - but losing happens. We can't win every game. It's gutting but it happens.

What I find hilarious is that last week, people were saying the treble doesn't matter, domestic football doesn't matter, it's all about Europe yadda yadda yadda. Then we lose domestically and it's RD out.

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31 Jan 2016 17:59:42
@Gaz

See James77's post about that below - and quoted above.

@Rayman

"First of all there are no RD haters on here. "

Sorry, you lost all credibility after that.

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31 Jan 2016 18:13:35
No I think you have lost your credibility mate, can you direct me to any post that states this? I seriously doubt it.
There are many on here who didn't like lennon as manager and I sure there are many who didn't like previous managers.
But I never spoke to anyone or heard anyone say they hated them.
It just suits your agenda to say this, but you can't back it up.

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31 Jan 2016 18:28:19
I am not going to argue about it in my opinion if RD insists on playing Ambrose it will cost him his job Yes the guy that replaced him is new but he is not short of game time.

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31 Jan 2016 18:38:39
@Rayman

It's not up to me to open your eyes for you. If you want to argue the semantics of the word hate, then knock yourself - but by doing so you're simply avoiding the debate. You know exactly what I'm referring to, and if you (genuinely) don't, then all the "directing" in the world won't help.

I'm not going to get into your ridiculous claims that I have an agenda - because, outwith this sentence, they don't deserve my time.

As or everything else, if you fancy doing some research yourself, there's a banter archive below. Happy hunting.

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31 Jan 2016 19:57:35
Ok then Mr Genius let's debate, there are many many on here who want him sacked, I not one of them yet but I don't think they hate him they just don't trust him or believe he is doing a good job.
If you are going to say spmething say it, don't hide behide a word.

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31 Jan 2016 20:44:52
Hate is probably being used out of context.
A lot of people hate the fact that RD is the manager and that is fair enough. They hate (dont like, are frustrated, are puzzled by) the tactics. They hate (as before) the style of play, the quality (not actual person) of some players.

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31 Jan 2016 21:49:04
@Rayman

I can't be that much of a genius, if I was I wouldn't have such a hard time deciphering the gibberish you write. As well as which, considering I never called you -- or specifically anyone on the board if we're being pedantic -- a Ronny Hater, you don't half speak for everyone. And I have no idea what you are suggesting/ getting at with your "say something, don't hide behind a word" comment which is, somewhat ironically, ambiguously vague.

@TinyTim

Spot on. I didn't coin the term RD Haters was a generalization -- it one that's been used more than once one here to refer to those who have wanted him out since day one. It's not unlike RD lovers/ apologists - just the other end of the scale. Rayman knows that but as is often the case with him, if he can't engage with the debate, he'll move the argument elsewhere. And it work - I've spent the last 3/ 4 messages arguing about the semantics of language. I'm done with it.

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01 Feb 2016 00:38:29
Well why use the term when you know its clearly wrong mate.

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01 Feb 2016 10:44:56
It wasn't wrong- that's not what I said. Still, don't let the truth get in the way of a righteous cause. FYI, RD hate is mentioned at least twice in posts above this since last night, so I'll imagine you have a lot of fires to fight. Good luck with the struggle- I'm done taking about this.

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31 Jan 2016 17:03:27
For me that's it.

Deila as much as I like him has again failed. I didn't accept Lennon's domestic trophy haul and I can't accept yet another season of poor performances and no treble. Treble was the least we needed this year and now I doubt even a double will happen.

Deila seems unable to change tactics or even show any awareness of when we need to change players. Armstrong was awful today but stayed on for so long. Brown straight swap for Bitton was pointless, Brown isn't going to change our attacking options.

Year after Year we get put out of cups by mediocre teams.

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31 Jan 2016 17:17:41
Kev T you are bang on mate.

Armstrong was worse than terrible today, and whilst I can almost see the logic in bringing on the inspirational leader, Brown is unfit and rarely contributes anything special in the final third. Forrest on for Armstrong earlier and big Cole would have been a great option on the bench for last ten.

Ronnie, do the right thing and leave.

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31 Jan 2016 17:27:12
Utter nonsense. How can you blame the manager for stupid individual mistakes? If the manager had started with a defender who had not trained with his new team-mates, he would have been hammered if anything was to go wrong. Deila had no choice but to start with Ambrose (who has been playing well recently) . As for your obsession with the treble, this was a media creation designed to put pressure on the manager. Winning the treble has never been a criteria for a Celtic manager and never will be. It's a bonus, simple as that! Bad day for Celtic, but hardly the fault of the manager.

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31 Jan 2016 17:30:38
I was about to post a very similar comment.
I have tried to be patient and hold back criticism, but we have failed yet again to capitalise on our major advantage in resources and personnel against a poorer, but better organised team.
We have an abundance of light-weight sand dancing midfielders but a severe lack of ball winning tacklers, battlers and leaders.
The current crop of defenders and goalkeeper are among the worst equipped for any level of football I think I have ever seen in hoops and our lack of options, when Griffiths struggles is appalling. This is not knee-jerk as it's been obvious for months.
Over the whole season we have lost far too many goals and made far too many mistakes and for the first time since 2012 I worry about our title aspirations under this management team.
There are too many who think they are better than they are and others who will never be good enough!

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31 Jan 2016 17:37:27
"If the manager had started with a defender who had not trained with his new team-mates, he would have been hammered if anything was to go wrong. "

Spot on James77.

Ambrose is red carded. Griffiths misses a penalty. Gordon is beaten at his near post again. Individual errors.

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31 Jan 2016 17:51:35
Individual mistakes?

The only individual mistake was Ronnie not getting rid of Efe about 3 Windows ago!

In fact the individual mistake that really matters is the appointment of RD in the first place.

"Stand by the manager and rightly so"?

Never heard such utter sh**e from a non- zombie.

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31 Jan 2016 17:52:12
Individual errors that keep happening what do our coaches get paid for. Defence got split far too often this shit should be easy to fix but just looks like they're not working out how to stop it happening. New coaches needed or better players that can learn what they're being shown in training. Something has to change.

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31 Jan 2016 18:30:20
WTF have zombies got to do with anything Craigie? Is your sense of entitlement to win a treble at all costs not slightly reminiscent of the sevconian mindset?

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31 Jan 2016 19:53:11
Well said James77. Totally agree.

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31 Jan 2016 17:02:19
Goodbye Ronnie. You've been a disaster.

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31 Jan 2016 17:31:43
Not going to happen, the board will stand by RD and quite rightly so! Only a fool would blame a manager for a freak incident!

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31 Jan 2016 20:26:32
Sorry James77, didn't realise that EVERY time we get beaten in a big match, then it's a Freke incident? What was the Freke incident anyway. Was it the first goal, the second goal or the third goal?

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31 Jan 2016 17:00:10
I wonder what RD will say about this. I wonder what excuses will be given for this shambles. RD must be sacked, and before anyone says " here we go on the RD bandwagon" but if u consistently fail at your job in any walk of life u get paid off, and if u consistently play a guy that has as many mistakes in him that ambrose does then I'm afraid RD makes a rod for his own back. Taxi for Ronny I'm afraid!

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31 Jan 2016 17:12:34
Couldn't agree more, Anyone who still has the nerve to still say RD is the man to take us forward is more deluded than RD himself.

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31 Jan 2016 17:13:56
With big Erik, Jozo and boyata surely spells the end for efe, agree gaz time for RD to go.

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31 Jan 2016 17:26:16
Been saying it for a long time his team. Setup and subs are poor plus he always makes a mcuk up in big games.

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31 Jan 2016 18:05:14
His substitutions at teams are baffling to say the least, we're 3-1 down today and Ronnys response ( bring on broony and take off bitton)

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31 Jan 2016 16:52:54
Ambrose: match fixer?

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31 Jan 2016 19:24:37
No a match fixer just the worst defender in oor recent
History. your playin Russian roulette every time u play him in a important game.

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31 Jan 2016 16:55:43
Why does Ronny continue to lose big matches.

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31 Jan 2016 17:04:35
The 11 men on the pitch lost the game.

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31 Jan 2016 17:23:21
If you out Ambush on you cause it.

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31 Jan 2016 17:29:25
Always the big ones l Warsaw maribor malmo the Europa league without a win aberdeen away today ict in the cup poor decisions happen and Ronny picks his team and sets them up 3 1 down and cifci stays on the bench yes cifci I no but Ronny signed him.

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31 Jan 2016 17:34:14
We are bottlers - from the manager down.
There are no leaders, fighters, motivators or inspiration at Celtic.

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31 Jan 2016 15:56:45
Delia picks Ambrose and again dusaster. Both need to be sacked. Delia never learns.

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31 Jan 2016 16:11:35
Ambrose ran into the guy . There was a worse tackle on johansson and the guy who wrestled Gordon for the 2nd Ross county goal? We are paranoid haaaaa.

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31 Jan 2016 16:26:45
Delia deserves to fall on his own sword with ambrose . But if ever a ref has made sure we didn't have a chance of a treble? Gordon was held, wrestled n got booked? I have no problem with their 3rd . They are playing better than us . But Thompson?

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31 Jan 2016 16:29:03
Celtic touch and control 2 out a 10 Ross county's touch and control 7 out a 10 dross.

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31 Jan 2016 16:34:32
We have folded just hoping now.

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31 Jan 2016 16:54:12
Before all the RD supporters start saying the ref lost us the game or you can't blame Ronnie for how the players play well yes you can. that's why managers lose their job. So for all of the Ronnie supporters who have been defending Ronnie by telling the rest of us how Ronnie would win the treble and asking what the rest of us would say then, well where do you go now? don't say we didn't tell you!

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31 Jan 2016 16:57:28
Ambrose has been playing well recently but it's clear that he is still erratic and it should spell the end for him. I don't blame Deila for picking him based on his form but he should now realise even if he has 5 man of the match performances in a row he is statically due to, at any moment, make a Jim Delahunt of it.

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31 Jan 2016 15:44:39
Question guys :
If a player has to get attention from the physio then the player goes off the park and then comes back on when the play restarts, so why not the keeper?

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31 Jan 2016 17:06:23
Cus that would be stupid?

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31 Jan 2016 15:05:16
Ed The live chat is no working any chance you can have a look at it
thanks.

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31 Jan 2016 15:35:46
Been unable to log onto Live Chat since KO and ma heids burstin with 30 odd minutes of anger, frustration and opinions I need to share.

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31 Jan 2016 15:17:51
Craig Thomson - you know what you are! The red card was in his hand as soon as GMS scored. The dirty ----.

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31 Jan 2016 15:38:57
Cant agree with you jim that wee ******* dived a thought he was getting yellow card, totally fooled the ref mate.

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31 Jan 2016 17:05:14
Agree about the dive, but Thomson has a long history of controversy and major decisions against Celtic. No excuses whatsoever - as better managers and teams have had similar obstacles and handicaps and dealt with them in their stride.
This is a very poor Celtic side, with the worst goalkeeper and defence in many years.

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31 Jan 2016 15:12:56
There was a problem with the live chat but that's it up and running.
To join the live chat just click HERE.

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31 Jan 2016 14:43:27
Big game for Boyata, if he has a stinker he could end up in wilderness.

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31 Jan 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Celtic match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
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31 Jan 2016 11:51:20
Hi would someone be able to tell me when the Scottish Transfer Window Close? I know the English one closes at 11pm Monday, just not sure about ours. Cheers.

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31 Jan 2016 12:18:47
I'm pretty sure it's midnight on Monday. I'm not sure why we get the extra hour - maybe ED will know - but it's probably just an SFA balls up contingency hour.

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31 Jan 2016 14:42:26
It is because Scotland > England :P.

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31 Jan 2016 08:39:48
What do you think Bhoys and Ghirls?
Would an 'Exit the EU' vote seriously affect British football clubs?
Signing of non-British Players as there would be no more freedom of employment movement, Advertising and media revenue etc. Would it weaken us or force us to play more home-grown talent (which has to be good for us and the National teams)

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31 Jan 2016 10:05:35
Just more scaremongering as far as I can tell. The fact that in the EPL there are already loads of players from outside the UK playing there blows the argument clean out of the water. However, loads of the mentally challenged within our electorate just base their opinions on the headline and are incapable of thinking about things logically.

I know I will be voting to leave and hopefully it gets us another referendum to then leave the UK as well.

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31 Jan 2016 10:36:28
Unfortunately the last referendum was more about a change of ownership than independence. What part of separating from Westminster and signing up to the EU was actually becoming independent?
The EU is a expensive, self perpetuating dictatorship presiding over democracy and it's days are numbered!

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31 Jan 2016 11:33:03
Thoughtful comments guys and everyone votes with their heads (I hope) . But my point about it possibly costing revenue and restricting numbers of foreign player on one hand and forcing clubs to play more British players was what I was tabling.
Regardless of the number of foreign players in the EPL (and I am sure current employments which are all related to timed contracts will be upheld) It is future signings and sponsorships I am thinking about.
From a Celtic point of view it 'could' curtail the bigger clubs going out and buying the top players if they have a limited number of visas. This might help even the playing field a wee bit in our favour.
Just a thought.

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31 Jan 2016 12:11:30
I'm not sure I agree. From my understanding, if we had voted YES in the last referendum we would have had a chance to vote again on what party was going to be given the chance to be first in power.

During the referendum I had liked much of what Jim Sillars had been saying and I would have expected a new left party to be formed in the event of a YES vote. If this party adopted Sillars' proposals then we would have left the EU as well as the UK and started our own currency and left the UK with no where to put trident and looming on the precipice of economic collapse, which was no more than they deserved after the way they had treated us and many others over the years.

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31 Jan 2016 13:06:26
In football terms, domesticly we could make our own employment rules, but to play in Europe we would have to satisfy whatever criteria they demanded. But thinking back re Collins going to Monaco, did they not refuse us cash, because they were not subject to EU rules despite the fact they were playing in the French league.
Typical EU, rules for as and when they suit!

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31 Jan 2016 13:55:56
I don't see work permits being an issue. I'd imagine there would be restrictions put in place for non skilled applicants in general, mabey similar to the system they have in Oz? For high taxable earners (footballers) I don't think there would be as much of a problem. On a footballing note if this goes through and permits reassessed It could open up the South American market for UK teams where places like Portugal have been making a killing in recent years.

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31 Jan 2016 05:53:04
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