Celtic Banter Archive August 31 2015

31 Aug 2015 22:55:04
Sorry too little to late celts at there best

31 Aug 2015 21:30:49
Big Sammy anyone?

31 Aug 2015 23:39:18
He's better than Ciftci, Scepovic and Balde combined and he had his chance, but I can understand the 'shout' due to the calibre of player we sign and the frustration of the fans.

01 Sep 2015 01:02:56
Thought this a few weeks ago. If we persist with one up front, why not? He played that role well for us.

31 Aug 2015 20:10:23
Got to say what a load of rubbish up to 5 MILL for this CH!?

who they kidding?

If he was at that level Billic would be after him @ West ham ffs!

Utter pi$#

31 Aug 2015 23:35:39
Jamiebhoy7 I have no faith in any of the summer signings so far. Would not be surprised if deal fell through. What the likes of @HenriksTongue don't understand is that John Park is making an absolute ar$e of it for far too long and there is going to be a hell of a lot more pain unless he goes

01 Sep 2015 01:32:25
The transfer window is too small for Celtic, we need a transfer 'barn door' - and we would still probably miss it!

01 Sep 2015 07:57:16
Have to agree with DN30. Since Ronnie arrived we have signed at least 17 players. That was 8 this transfer window and 2 in the January. Out of the 7 we signed last summer 6 are away. I sure some of this summers signings may be awY this time next year, but signing 7 and 6 are gone isad. What is the point if the transfer window? I thought it was to improve the squad not rotate it! Granted VVD is one of those 7 but him apart we lost the lot.

31 Aug 2015 19:22:52
I am not keen on the idea of Fletcher, think the move would suit him more than us. Wanted to ask who the fans would want signed as a centre forward? Keep it realistic - Hooper/May and semi realistic michu etc. No messi, benzema etc.

I m honestly hoping we pull one out the at as none of the name mentioned as possibles gets me too excited!

{Ed007's Note - I'd have rather signed Stevie May than Ciftci,.}

31 Aug 2015 20:07:41
Hooper

31 Aug 2015 20:19:27
If there anything in the Jon Walters thing take him in heartbeat would be upper ceiling a accept that but that is the best out there for us a think (y)

31 Aug 2015 20:51:15
Stevie May: Every day of the week this guy knows where the goal is and works his AR$$$$$$$ off.

31 Aug 2015 21:06:38
I like the boy Stuart Dallas who is at leeds. Think he can play LM aswell.

31 Aug 2015 21:07:54
Yes good signing he would be

31 Aug 2015 21:15:08
Would defo take Walters! Can't see it Happnin but! Sure Norwich were after him! Like him as a player but! Like ED said but I'd rather we didn't just spend money on somebody for the sake of it! Make sure he's going to be of decent quality! Think fletcher could do a job for us mind u! Not prolific by any means in the EPL but I think he would score up here! Would take hooper to! Sayin this and we won't sign any striker lol

31 Aug 2015 21:22:30
Walters would show Cifti a thing or 2 about " bustling Striker" but I think he is way out of our wage structure

31 Aug 2015 21:35:38
Fletcher, Walters and May ffs has our level stopped to new lows

We have enough crap at our club without signing more

31 Aug 2015 22:07:13
well give us an alternative Kev mate?

31 Aug 2015 23:23:54
Kyle lafferty

{Ed007's Note - You've just took that too far now!}

01 Sep 2015 01:54:31
What about Zehavi macabi tel aviv?

01 Sep 2015 07:51:06
Would love Zehavi but no chance on him now he might be out our price range it will be a diddy loan for someone who has a terrible scoring record or unproven at senior level and barely get a game

01 Sep 2015 15:25:23
Yordi reyna, plays for Leipzig in German second division. Save me buying him on fifa :-)

31 Aug 2015 18:16:51
Here we are again. Transfer deadline looming and we, once again, arse booted out of CL because the penny hasn't yet dropped.

We need players in before we start trying to qualify.

I bet you Lawell's bonus won't be affected. No sir.

As jim Bowen might say

" your money's safe"

But, should continue

Let's have a look at what you could have won"

Like qualification.

The players being discussed are mostly unknown in all regards but one. They're probably shite. We can put the pot on for that.

Zagreb fans pissing themselves. Soon all football fans in Scotland will join in.

All apart from us. Just another end result in the eternal desire to maintain bonus payments and a few bob for preferential share holders.

The rest of us can just go feck ourselves.

Stick your Faith.

31 Aug 2015 19:44:23
Magicpole his bonus should be affected as the accounts that will ce out at the end of this season have a £7mill loss written all over them, maybe even £8mill so I would expect his bonus to take a hit?

31 Aug 2015 19:58:32
Majicpole, go and lie Doon for God sake,transfers not complete and you are flagging the players already,honest to God some of you on here seriously need to get a grip.
I really think most of you have probably never been to a match and your venting anger at everything and anything Celtic do out of frustration at not getting to a match cause your wife goes to the bingo and you've got to watch the weans.

31 Aug 2015 20:52:42
I've been to a couple of games, back in the day, and have an original version of Glen Daly singing Grand Old Team.
My grandfather wrote songs for him. Mostly unbelievably awful though.

So, with credentials like that, you should realise I'm perfectly qualified to comment.

And I've written for a fanzine. :)

Yours in Celtic.

01 Sep 2015 15:21:39
I wonder how the fanzine is going?

31 Aug 2015 17:01:04
I see Mon is on news saying Walters has not joined up with the roi squad yet as he might be moving club , wonder if it's Celtic .

31 Aug 2015 19:00:16
I think he is going to either Leeds or Leicester , I cannot remember which . Although he is awkward and looks slow , he can be quite effective . Hope we get better .

31 Aug 2015 19:28:34
Hopefully not

31 Aug 2015 14:48:31
Hearing this croation boy is in Glasgow ED,must admit this will shock me if he signs! With the money quoted I thought it was a pipe dream! Really think we need a striker in but mate! U think we'll pull one out the bag before the window ED? Why couldn't they have tried for these players before the Malmo games? Never understand it mate.think young Christie will be a shrewd buy! Great future this boys got! Really impressed me every time I've seen him

{Ed007's Note - Well it's quite obvious that neither Dinamo Zagreb or CFC see Jozo Simunovic as a player capable of playing in the CL, the Zagreb fans are laughing at us for trying to sign him.
Ryan Chrisitie will end up at St Johnstone or Kimarnock in a couple of seasons, or signed back up at ICT playing alongside Scott Allan and James Forrest}

31 Aug 2015 15:19:01
I'm quietly confident Scott Allan will be a good player for us Ed. Don't know anything about this Zagreb player, where have you heard that their fans are laughing at us?
DN30 will be hoping he's cr@p though so he can slate John Park every day for the next few months

{Ed007's Note - So you watch a lot of lower league football, I can't say I do myself is no better than watching the juniors down the park, there's some good players there as well but I wouldn't want them signing for CFC. Have you spotted any other players in the lower leagues of Scotland that we should sign to help is get into the latter stages of the EL or the CL next season - or was Scott Allan the only one?
The Zagfreb fans are all over social media torturing CFC fans about how bad Simunovic, we've got to give him a chance but it doesn't bode well his current team's fans are celebration him leaving does it?

31 Aug 2015 15:40:35
HenriksTongue I think John Parks failings speak for themself. I can't understand why he is your hero

31 Aug 2015 15:42:19
It doesn't bode well no. I watched a few Hibs games last season and I have to say he was a stand out. He looks like the kind of creative player we lack at times. And as you haven't watched him play its a wee bit unfair for you to judge him already.

{Ed007's Note - He's playing in the Scottish division, I doubt there's many players in that league that could anywhere any EPL team let alone CFC. I don't watch women's football but I know it's $hite.}

31 Aug 2015 15:48:50
He's no hero of mine. And yes a lot of his recommendations have been awful. I'm just tired of reading his name in every one of your posts! Yawn

31 Aug 2015 15:58:44
A lot of fans slag departing players. Usually a sign of not actually wanting them to leave! I expect the same on here tomorrow when VVD leaves. Hopefully the bhoy will be a good buy for us

{Ed007's Note - Why not go and ask them instead of just guessing? I don't think he's started a game for them this season.}

31 Aug 2015 16:26:54
He started 4 of their 6 qualifiers. I'll reserve judgement until I see him in the Hoops a few times but the fee alone is a step in the right direction and at a level we haven't seen in years

{Ed007's Note - The guy deserves every chance to prove himself and if he's in the team it keeps the Mulgrews and Ambroses out the team. We need a big physical hard tacking CB, the type who'll get tore in no matter what, boots flying etc.
We need someone like that to play alongside a ball-playing CB.
Sometimes in defensive situations you sometimes need brute force hard tackling rather than trying to remember what was on the whiteboard on Thursday morning.}

31 Aug 2015 17:09:42
ED007 I seem to recall an EPL team (forget who) offered £2m for Ambrose in January and Delia turned it down with his failings in europe and the transfer market he has cost us big time along with Park and Lawwell

31 Aug 2015 17:28:40
Ed, See with what you are saying about two contrasting CB's do you think Biton could drop back there or that could be a plan? Then play Armstrong in the middle with Brown a have a gut feeling they might try it

If you could get 10lb on Biton what a CB he would be!

{Ed007's Note - There's s habit going round of moving DCM back into the CB spot van Gaal has done it with Carrick and Blind but I'm not for it. I'd also say that Bitton has made his position his own and there's no need to move him and weaken the position he's already playing in.}

31 Aug 2015 17:42:34
Well hopefully he can pass a ball and let Boyata throw himself in where it hurts because my heart's in my mouth every time he gets the ball at his feet.

31 Aug 2015 17:45:54
Ed I agree with what your saying about having a brute for a CH never had one who would go through players since Bobo . I was watching EPL highlights yesterday and someone made a good point after Loverens gaffe against West Ham in that modern CHs think they're all talented ball players and instead of booting it into row Z they want to be fancy or dribble the ball out usually ending in disaster . By all means have a defender who can pass but always have a player beside him who'll go through a brick wall for the team

{Ed007's Note - I've always liked my CBs to be two different types of defender, one of then a fearless, tough tackling no nonsense defender who will go flying in where it hurts clear the lines and beside him anothe a more cultured player as a ball-playing defender who has the vision and ability to help launch attacks or play the ball out of attack, keeping possession.
How does that sound DH, our very won version of Vidic and Ferdinand back when they were in their prime.}

31 Aug 2015 18:49:32
Fair point Ed, (y) just trying to accommodate all these MF!

No doubt about it though Biton our next biggest asset at our club

31 Aug 2015 18:16:04
Also javier mascherano started as a dm now a cb at barca

31 Aug 2015 19:13:02
The Celtic club are forever berated for not signing up young Scottish talent .
Now when they do, the fans are ridiculing again . Can the club ever win .

I would think all of us should give our new Croation defender a decent chance to
prove whether he is any good or not . At least give him a decent welcome.

31 Aug 2015 19:23:39
Surley he can't be any worse than iffy ambrosia

31 Aug 2015 19:30:46
Okay HenriksTongue just for you. John Park is absoluely hopeless.

Timalloy it was West Ham who were in for Ambrose.

31 Aug 2015 20:39:57
Ed your shout about Vidic and Ferdinand is spot on thing is I'm old enough to remember Roddy McDonald winning everything in the air and just clearing his lines while Pat Stanton doing all the football stuff on the deck . I suppose you could even go back to big Billy who wasn't too clever with the ball at his feet but in the air was majestic just like his battling qualities but had John Clark to do the mopping up

{Ed007's Note - Those are a bit before my time but you can see it if you watch old Lions matches. Remember Baresi and Maldini at they heart of the AC Milan defence, they were awesome.}

31 Aug 2015 14:15:53
If jozo comes in for say 5m fair play to the board, but I still think a striker for that kind of price would have got the fans more excited and been a better buy

31 Aug 2015 14:40:19
You have to say fair play, PL did say if the right player comes along at the £4-6m bracket then we would pay the money. Although the £4m initial fee we've reportedly agreed is only 1/3 of the VVD money!

31 Aug 2015 13:40:55
I think we may see more variation in the formation we play this season. I like the 4-2-3-1 but in order for it to work the 2 wide attackers/wingers need to be bang at it for 90 minutes. Unfortunately, our wide players are probably our most inconsistent players with regards to GMS and Forrest, and to a lesser extent Armstrong. I think a 4-4-2 diamond would suit the players at our disposal and most importantly the ones in form. That way we could have Rogic/Commons at the tip of the diamond. I also think Griffiths would be even more prolific with someone beside him (Ciftci, Fletcher, mystery striker). Just a thought

31 Aug 2015 14:06:55
Gms has got far to much flack, armstrong is playing out of position, everyone knows that reason we brought them in was because they link up brilliantly but how can they if armstrongs on wing instead of central

31 Aug 2015 15:26:00
Wide players unless they are the very best will suffer from inconsistency. They have to take players on and beat them while our other players don't have that responsibility. Some times they will lose the ball and in some games that can happen more than not. Part of the problem is that there are not enough forwards to take advantage when our wingers do beat the full back. As for Armstrong we won't get the best out of him until he plays centrally and that won't happen while SJ is at the club

31 Aug 2015 11:38:40
Just wondering ed, what happened with jelle vossen. Just seen he's been sold by burnley to club Brugge. Just didn't work out?

{Ed007's Note - I don't know what's happened there but it's one of the oddest situations I've ever came across.}

31 Aug 2015 12:47:34
Brugge have just sold De Sutter to Bursaspor and Burnley broke their transfer record last week on Andre Gray. Maybe they got Vossen thinking the Gray deal wouldn't happen and Brugge have offered them their money back for Vossen so it suits everybody?

31 Aug 2015 12:47:34
Brugge have just sold De Sutter to Bursaspor and Burnley broke their transfer record last week on Andre Gray. Maybe they got Vossen thinking the Gray deal wouldn't happen and Brugge have offered them their money back for Vossen so it suits everybody?

31 Aug 2015 11:22:36
Aw the rumours are in full speed today love it 😁 4 in 3 out

31 Aug 2015 12:22:12
Who's the 4 and the 3?

31 Aug 2015 14:23:11
Need to wait until tomoz Tim am sure ill not be too far off with my prediction maybe ed would be able to tell more but a would be happy with 3 in 4 out myself a would like to through in a few more of the deadwood but doubt it

31 Aug 2015 09:22:44
I think it's quite telling that only one team are reportedly interested in vvd. If we can bring in a solid centre half who's priority is defending and not free kicks and surging runs then I think it's good business. In my opinion Virgils defensive skills will be sorely exposed in the epl and show him to be the luxury centre half he is.

31 Aug 2015 10:00:13
I don't agree at all, I think he will prove to be an excellent defender. During his time here he has always had either a liability on his right in Ambrose, or a liability on his left in Emilio, or sometimes both! Playing alongside Ambrose for instance, he's had 3 men to mark - his own opponent, Ambrose's opponent and Ambrose himself! If you put him in a solid back 4 I think he'd be immense as the bhoy has the lot. Hope we've got a sell on clause in there as he'll be heading for a bigger club within 2 years

31 Aug 2015 12:05:18
LM 67. Just another repetition of the nonsense about Efe and Izzy, two international players who have always given their all for the team. VVD makesmistakes every game,he has the potential to be a good centre half at a high level, but at the minute he plays for himself. As for Izzy when he is dropped take some time to see what it does to the teams style of play, he is responsible for starting about 60% of our attacks

31 Aug 2015 13:34:58
They might give their all, but their all has been proven time and time again to be not good enough! I agree Emilio is good going forward but he is defender first and foremost and is therefore not fit for purpose

31 Aug 2015 13:44:37
I think vvd is an excellent prospect. However the hate campaign for izzy and efe is getting beyond a joke both these players were good enough to play cl and qualify for last 16. Said before if izzy is getting caught out its up to the lcb to drag him back and give him the notice of for one of the dcm to drop back.there is 2 of them after all . Efe looks lost now, confidence is at an all time low and every wayward pass is greeted with a groan on the other hand every time sj gives the ball away it goes unnoticed.

31 Aug 2015 13:34:58
They might give their all, but their all has been proven time and time again to be not good enough! I agree Emilio is good going forward but he is defender first and foremost and is therefore not fit for purpose

31 Aug 2015 14:03:03
Definitely no hate campaign from me, I've always defended both players because you can tell they love playing for Celtic. However, its a results business and a lot of our bad results are normally down to individual mistakes from either player. Enough is enough

31 Aug 2015 15:21:55
LM67. I am afraid that is just another sweeping generalisation. Neither played against Malmo which was a disaster in a big game. Players make mistakes all the time, on Saturday Janko got to the bye line a number of times and the hit the first man! with one forward that is on balance the most likely outcome but if it is Efe izzy or Forrest then they are pilloried. Sometimes I think people just repeat what they hear with no thought

31 Aug 2015 01:11:29
Ed just seen online that we are trying to bring steven Fletcher in on a years loan deal you seen or herd that?

{Ed007's Note - I seen that, I hope not and I can't see it happening. Why not go for Stevie May?}

31 Aug 2015 15:33:53
Or Stevie Chalmers.killy.