Celtic Banter Archive May 30 2011

30 May 2011 23:03:02
Ok if its banter as you say, at least the gers are in the CL to get knocked out, is that better
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Actually Rangers are not in the CL they are in a qualifier and if they win that they have another one to play in , So before you start telling people you are in the CL Win you qualifiers first.
But i will give you at least you have a chance of the CL.

Yes u r correct we have to qualify, but the CL is for the champions or it was meant to be. It cheeses me off when the Scottish champions (Be it Cetic or Rangers) have to play qualifiers when Other countries have their top 3 or 4 teams straight in. This has to be stopped and let the champions of each country play in the competion, and if not enough spaces being filled the runners up from each country play qualifiers, this would be fairer wouldn't you think. . . {Ed007's Note - Then it wouldn't make much money, plain and simple. It would be fairer, but UEFA are running scared of Barca, Real, Man Utd, Chelsea, Milan and Inter etc etc breaking away and forming their own Euro League. I do believe that the champions of any member association should automatically qualify for the group stages, but UEFA make the rules and IMO it could be a while before any Scottish team is actually in the group stages. I hope I am wrong but with the quality and amount of teams that need to qualify any Scottish team will need a favourable draw to qualify in future}

Fair point ED (and i don't normally agree with most of what you say LOL) but is it not the case next year the scottish champions go straight into group stages or is it only 1 qaulifier. . {Ed007's Note - To be honest the whole qualification thing is very cloudy from year to year. I mean Fulham got into the Europa League next season with the Fair Play ruling. Who qualifies for a European tournament for being nice???}

30 May 2011 21:53:25
i heard were signing:

Mr. Messi. .

also Mr. Silly, Mr. Smelly too :L

Mr. Smelly wouldn't leave Rangers to come to us. Neither would Mr. Ugly or Mr. Stupid :-)

30 May 2011 21:23:02
"The mighty Rangers"

This made me laugh. A truly legnedary comment from an utter numpty. Enjoy watching your oh so omnipotent Rangers side getting knocked out of the CL before the group stages.


Sorry to all the true Celtic fans on here, but i read both Rangers and Celtic sites and it really is annoying of Jealous fans out there. Iam a Gers fan and was well pleased with being champions again, but never once mentioned it on here and gloated to you all, what does annoy me is comments like the one above. . people should get along and just support their team and if all goes well then well done to that team. . .

It's called banter mate!

Ok if its banter as you say, at least the gers are in the CL to get knocked out, is that better

I think what the rangers fan is trying to say is banter is one thing insulting someone you don't even no is something else big rab by the way and yes rangers for 4iar

Aye and i have seen alot worse from rangers fans on here but i have never seen big rab pulling them up for it by the way.

Never from me though and you never will big rab by the way and by the the way were is your handle or have all the bhoys been used up

I'm the original poster of this comment and in all honesty I agree with what you're saying.

To clarify though, it was directed at some Mr. High and Mighty Gers fan that made a particularly harsh comment towards Celtic all the while not realising that they're not in a much better position than us (or any Scottish side) when it comes to European qualification chances or signing players

Hence I called him a "numpty" as he would appear to think that with the incoming Craig Whyte and the possibility of CL league money (possibility, you haven't qualified yet) Rangers will all of a sudden be knocking back bids of 10M where in reality a decent bid for any one of your players like at Celtic won't be sniffed at. He also went on to say that when our players eventually move on they'll be utter failures. The "legnedary" thing was a cross-reference to the obvious banner and the poor quality of English being displayed in his post (because not only was what he's saying utterly erroneous, but they also sounded particularly stupid).

All in all I thought the comment was particularly bitter and stupid and merited an equally bitter and stupid response.

You see you can say what you mean without being insulting and your quite right with your comments fans living in the 90s and think 10-15 million pounds in football terms is going to buy a team to compete in the champion league are deluded look at chelsea and man city and the money they have spent to challenge man utd for the title and with there resourses couldnt win the euro against a brilliant spanish side work out what they have spent over the last three years and compare with us ie rangers or celtic do i think rangers can win 4iar yes but that's because i am a fan of the best team in scotland i am not deluded enough to think we will win the champions league but i can dream and that's the thing about being a fan hoping your team can be better than they are big rab by the way

This is for the original poster of this gash. .I think I may be the Rangers supporter you are directing your bile towards, and believe me mate if you took your green specs off and actually digested the crap your supporters came out with and some of the players they make out they are the world beaters that every one outside your club can clearly see they are definately not. .but if you still believe your lot are as good as you all say then why can't I call my team the mighty Rangers because after all we did beat your world beaters/superstars. .

And one more thing Im not that daft to think that if a really good offer came in for one of our players we would staunchly knock it back. .Dont be silly all I am implying is we are no longer in need of selling anyone and everyone as we had to in recent years and believe me the celtic fans never let us forget it, so now we don't have to sell and we have the prospect of CL football again I will have a dig at your team as you would all do the same if the shoe was on the other foot. .So pal call me what you want but I will tell you this Glasgow Rangers are the champions and we are not skint anymore so you can kiss your league goodbye for the forseeable future its gonna be a long decade for your lot when you are in the shadow of ALLYS ARMY lol. .

Tam-Sir 1873 sorry ED for goin on but Im only having a bit of banter. . {Ed007's Note - No problem Tam, you know you're always welcome here. At least you put a point across without resorting to pettiness or childish insults}

30 May 2011 21:10:16
tim matavz move to napoli only broke down because of a disagreement between player and club as the 4.5 million transfer fee had already been agreed in january between the 2 clubs. he knocked celtic back in january and has made this known, but we have renewed interest along with lazio and newcastle. groningen are not looking for anywhere near 8 million euros as hes entering the last year of his contract {Ed007's Note - His contract runs to 2013. The coming season is not the last of his contract}

30 May 2011 20:29:03
There is some amount of bull being posted. Kayal, going nowhere. Izzaguire, going nowhere. hooper, going nowhere. FACT

Building a team to challenge in Europe, why would Lennon want to get shot of 3 of his most consistent players?????

30 May 2011 18:58:51
the market in south America seems to offer great value these days, I think that's where Celtic are looking at just now as there's real quality to be had for real returns ( ie. future sales) but the problem lies in work permits for some of these guy's as the uk. is quite strict in that they need to be internationals ETC + have played a certain no. of games over a certain period so you have to do your homework before signing ,
Marty Bhoy
wot you think ED/ {Ed007's Note - It is a problem with younger unrecognised players from South America a la Scheidt. I know that Manchester United use Royal Antwerp to allow younger players to gain dual nationality, but I doubt the OF could afford to subsidise such a venture}

30 May 2011 17:47:35
villa are more skint than us .i heard they are going to make a £3m bid for kayal. i can't see celtic parting with kayal for that kind of money. celtic are set to make kayal a better pay deal and don't have to sell.

dont talk gash as soon as any reasonable offer comes in youll flog anyone just to claw the much missed CL money so get it into your head your lot are the selling club of the SPL now not the mighty rangers. . bring it on 2nd best lololol. .kayal will be playin for stoke or some donkeys like that , hooper will be on the bench at newcastle and izaguirre will be found out by arsenal if they but him and hell be farmed out to some crap team like WBA. . so b4 you start yous are 2nd best and yes you do nedd CL money and no im not worried at all about a tax bill at rangers so do one lololol 3 in a row and yes we got dough lololol. .

Tam-Sir 1873

I actually have to agree with the guy above. .celtic are a selling club and as soon as any decent offer comes in we will flog them regardless of how much we want to keep them cos we can't keep missing out on the champions league its really gonna start affecting us longterm. .sad to say it but the guy might have hit the nail on the head. . malky {Ed007's Note - Celtic and Rangers will sell if a high enough bid comes in for any player. Every club in Scotland is a "selling club". These players were brought here to gain experience and ultimately be sold on for a profit. That is the main reason that Celtic have invested so much time and money over the last year in building up their worldwide scouting network and establishing contacts within the global market}

ED regarding your last post. .celtic have invested money over the last few years and won a scottish cup bn embarrassed in every other cup comp they have bn involved in and don't even mention europe that was a disaster . .these investments are ballony its the players agents who have got these players over inflated price tags and once down south they may well get found out. .just look at middlesbrough for evidence. an absolute red neck for the old firm don't you think. anyway lets not kid ourselves on celtic are in the poopoo if they don't win the league next season no player worth his salt will hang around to play in the 2nd tier of europe every season unless they get a go in the CL first. .whats your thoughts then ed

A REALIST!
{Ed007's Note - Was there not any EPL teams chasing Joe Ledleys signature, or Adam Matthews and Kelvin Wilson? Why look at Middlesbrough, I assume you are a Rangers supporter so look at the EPL. Look at Arteta at Everton, Kyrgiakos at Liverpool or Cuellar at AV? There is a list of players who have came here and went on to have successful careers elsewhere, even the Swansea GK today was at Dunfermline for a while. Players come here to see if they can adapt to the style of play, knowing if they can they will have a chance of carving out a financially lucrative career elsewhere and with the chance of catching the eye of English clubs. I also have it on extremely good authority that Celtic do not sign any players on an agents say so without scouting the player properly, and I would imagine Rangers would not employ such an obviously flawed system of recruitment}

"The mighty Rangers"

This made me laugh. A truly legnedary comment from an utter numpty. Enjoy watching your oh so omnipotent Rangers side getting knocked out of the CL before the group stages.

Spot on ed how many times must we say it EVERY team are selling clubs( except the REAl's etc of this world) but to the guy with the holier than thou attitude, look no further than your own lot , + yes the tax mans not going away, anyway you lot keep telling everyone of your allegiance to the crown SO WHY DON'T YOU PAY YOUR TAXES??????
Marty bhoy

Well ed i will respond to your post but the clowns below you are well i ll just say trumpets anyway, yes you are right about carving out a career but outta the three examples you just said i would only say that arteta has truly made it down there outta them and one you missed stan petrov. .the rest are debateable cuellar not a starter and kyrgiakos well the kop fans have had more than a few gripes about him over the course and ill add hutton aswell to the almost list as with mcdonald of middlesbrough and robson but the failures are highly noteable aswell i.e boyd for starters, flood, mcmanus, thomson(injury), burke, rae even mcormack to some degree hes regressed rather than progressed, back to leeds i see and finally mcarthur aint really took off yet has he. .
to add to the made it list i will put mcarthy and adam.

Tam-Sir 1873 supports a WINNING team. . and we will be in the CL proper. . {Ed007's Note - There is always a risk with any transfer, look at Boumsong, but Rangers weren't caring if he was a success or not with the money in the bank. I hate the fact that Celtic and Rangers fans always harp on about players coming back to their club, why not look to the future, look for the next Rino than look at bring back a 33yr old who has only been kept on at Milan due to sentiment. If Man Utd/Arsenal/Spurs or who ever offer Celtic anywhere near £10m for Izaguirre he will leave for sure. He will probably say he enjoyed his time in Scotland but it is his career and players leave clubs all the time for what ever reason. For £10m, Celtic could afford 2/3 or 4 new players and although Izaguirre will be remembered fondly, I for one will not hope he comes back when he is 32/33. In order to make money to reinvest Celtic and Rangers need to go down the route of allowing players to make a name for themselves and hopefully sold on for a healthy profit. As for transfer fees, is Izaguirre, Kayal etc worth £10m? They are if the club is willing to pay that money. As for James McCarthy, he is a fantastic prospect and is heavily linked to Liverpool which will give Hamilton another cash injection, helping a small club keep going}

And ed i forgot to tell you that yes celtic and rangers did at some point buy players on agents words and of course watching vhs, just remember sebastian rosenthal who cost rangers 4+m and of course who can forget the brazillian leg-end rafael scheidt lol he even had a false passport if i remember correctly. .

Tam-Sir 1873 word of mouth {Ed007's Note - Yes and both clubs learned their lesson from it. There is no way in this day and age and financial climate that this method is the only one used in acquiring players. It is easy enough for anyone to collate DVDs of players even using youtube etc. It might catch the initial interest but the players are extensively scouted before any offer is made}

Tam i am not sure of your age so i will make this as easy as i can for you.
all clubs are selling clubs if the moneys right.
kayal is one of our best players and villa rate him good enough to play in epl( that s the league that s ment to be the best in the world)so an offer of a mere £3m and you think celtic will jump at that.
i think if they only have £3m to spend they would be better looking over the rangers team as sally is wet between the ears.
i am not worried about a tax bill aswell, i have payed mine.

ED I would like to think that they have learned there lesson with regards to signing via VHS/DVD whatever but I think that celtic have bn guilty of the old shirt selling players i.e koki mizuno, cha du rei and I think that although it is a good method of makin money you are degrading the quality of your team and therefore taking well earned money from fans who save all year to go to these games and I for one hope Rangers never go down this route, I feel as though whatever I say here will be misconstrued as a dig at celtic and there fans but it aint I just wish players played for the jersey instead of bed hopping all the time. the only players of any worth to have done this in recent times have bn the henrik larssons and dado prso's but these guys are very few and far between. .I just know that whenever the players of the current squads of either the OF play well for a season or even half a season(HUTTON) they get flogged off and obv it aint the managers doin all the time but mostly the board. .But y settle as a feeder club to the nether regions of the EPL cause at the end of the day that's aw we will ever be. .

Tam-Sir 1873 from the heart WATP {Ed007's Note - A lot more clubs than Celtic use signings as a marketing tool, Man Utd picked up Park and tapped into their already healthy Asian market as did Celtic with Nakamura. Would you say Ki or Kayal have been a bad investments for Celtic, both on and off the park? It is the reason for major clubs having strong commercial departments. The commercial side of the game is what encouraged Rangers to awash Hampden in a sea of orange in the cup final. So did Rangers only sign Dutch players to promote a football top? Celtic or Rangers can not afford to have players that are only a commercial success, if that was the case you could say Edu is only at Rangers to sell shirts in the USA or Novo was only signed to tap into the Spanish market. Both clubs will be scouring the globe looking at possible transfer targets, I think their ability as a player is a bigger factor than their commercial worthiness}

30 May 2011 17:40:02
breaking news on sky sports Jim Whyte's brother craig (TIM nice but DIM) has just announced that Partick Thistle are to use rangers as a feeder club,
Marty bhoy EXCLUSIVE Jim Whytes brother lol I like that one}

30 May 2011 15:43:56
celtic to sign alan maybury on a free. .and also looking at max gradle of leeds. .theres the possibility of us getting higdon aswell. .hopefully we make these signings as it shows everyone we are making big name signings and not buckling just cos we aint got CL money HailHail. .

LOLOLOLOL where is the big name signing. . . If this is a true ill go back to supporting Morton!

30 May 2011 11:32:02
Id like to see Celtic go for someone like Nathen Tyson from Forest, he can sign on a free, hes got two great feet, hes fast and strong, just the sort of striker to play with Super Hooper. Also get Shay Given as he is world class keeper and also massive Celtic fan. Ivan Ramis from Real Mallorca and Shane Long.

Yeah tyson would be a good signing quick and would score spl goals for us.this whole shay given thing smacks of roy keane to me, only intersted in coming to the hoops when they are mid 30's and can't get a game with the club they are at.funny how all these irish boys claim to be life long celtic fans when it suits them no?

30 May 2011 10:40:34
I wish It was all true regarding Robbie Keane but can't really see it to be honest. Maloney off to pastures new that would be a blessing in disguise as he spends to much on the treatment table for me.