Celtic Banter Archive July 30 2016

 

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30 Jul 2016 23:36:55
Just watched my old Paul mcstay video after many years and my God what a player how much would he be worth today wish he was in our team now but sure we can dream eh like wee jinky rip and king henke hh.

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31 Jul 2016 00:45:21
Players like that are once in a lifetime, quality and loyalty combined are a novelty these days.

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31 Jul 2016 00:46:34
was away in ireland last week past, couldn't reply to any posts, but wasnt surprised by the usual critiscm of Scott Allan, but can anyone explain to me how Celtic as a team lacking creativity in the midfield with Biton playing cannot be better with Allan playing in Bittons position, can someone explain what Bitton brings to the team, does he chase back?, maybe Oldbhoy, sage of absolutely that is wrong with modern Celtic teams, or Ed007,who critiscised LGs signimg, can you explain in what way Bitton is better?, apart from saying, a la Tommy Cooper, that he is taller.

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{Ed007's Note - Nir Bitton is different from LG because he's not been caught being racist multiple times, he's never been plastered over the papers for being a deadbeat dad or assaulting a school kid at an amusement park, will I go on?. That's why i criticised the Griffiths signing and if it wasn't for RD his Celtic career would have been over 18 months ago. I've had nothing but praise for LG turning things round but I still think he will struggle if we reach the CL.
Oh and Bitton's a midfielder and LG's a striker so God knows how you can compare them, it's liks moaning that KT doesn't score enough goals. Or if you're thinking like that why wasn't Scott Allan brought in to help with the defensive crisis?}

31 Jul 2016 01:23:37
Sorry Ed you seem to have misconstued, or misunderstood my guestion, I was asking what Biton brings in creativity to a Celtic team, or is he in the team to chase back?, and my critiscm of you was you is that you were gung ho against LG, untill he did at Celtic, what he had been doing at previous clubs, ie scoring goals, are you still so interested in his personal life now?, or is that all swept under the carpet because he is doing well, and why don't you come out and admit it, the only thing scott Allan has done in your eyes, is that he once supported the old Rangers.

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{Ed007's Note - Away and sober up son.}

31 Jul 2016 01:29:17
On a second reading, I think we are talking at cross purposes.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not having you saying the only reason I don't rate Allan is because he was a Rangers supporter. You can't argue against what I say so you resort to that? That's like accusing a Tim of being a Zombie because they say something unpopular, it's a last resort.
When TRIFC were meant to be signing there were plenty of Celtic fans including me giving it the 'he's shite and has one good season in the Championship' - I've stuck with that. Scott Allan was signed for Peter Lawwell's shits and giggles.}

31 Jul 2016 06:38:16
Aindoh I get why you question Biton as he and Brown together slow our attacking threat. However must say when Biton came on in the Astana game he completely changed game and provided real balance in midfield allowing us to look threatning and ultimately score. He also used his physical strength which I honestly cannot remember him ever doing. If he can offer this more then he gets my vote. If Allen was showing something then he would play. RD and BR both felt same it would appear. Would you really be happy with him being your talisman? He isn't good enough and was bought for wrong reasons. He just isn't good enough it appears. Better proven players have experienced this and never made it at Celtic. Imo rogic, henderson, christie are all better. As for Biton he has had 3 managers now each one asking him to play a specific way, and they all pick him to play. How about we all forget our football manager/ fifa experience and simply get behind the mnager and players. We seem to be constantly criticising and highlighting negative aspects, by this i am not refering to yourself but a section of our so support who constantly just whinge. The season hasn't even started, transfer window hasn't closed, so let's see. The others factors we don't see, hear or experience first hand unlike our managers giving them insight. BR wasnt my first choice. I see changes all over the team which will make us better. Its simply time to get behind them as it won't be plain sailing and we will slip up occasionally. RD was hounded out, let's not allow the same conditions to allow similar division and circumstances. The Celtic supporters I know and respect are faithful through and through, and stronger together. We and I include me seem to be affected by the constant bombardment of negative Celtic narrative served up daily in the scottish tabloid, its difficult not to be, even when you think your not as we still consider the rubbish they print. This will step up a few notches this season so we need to stick together even more. Celtic are treated by the press in a similar vein to Corbyn. Regardless we are all Celtic supporters. Hail hail.

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31 Jul 2016 10:09:29
You seriously must be at the wind up but going by your posts in the past u clearly believe the nonsense u post. I'm surprised you haven't blamed Rd for the Barcelona defeat yesterday or for Scott Allan's lack of game time under br either, that'll be the spectre of Rd stopping the Messiah from playing and conquering the world, he's not the Messiah he's just a very naughty boy haha.
Anyway as 4 the nonsense u tried 2 use to have a dig at ed007, biton is far better than Scott Allan and brings more to the team, as he has proved at various times since signing 4 Celtic. As for wee Griff, if it wasn't 4 Rd he never would have knuckled down and would have been gone by now, does that mean Rd should get praise? probably not in your world but he does in anyone's world who can actually see what's going on.
Scott Allan is not good enough for Celtic and going by the little he has done when played he never will, oh wait ed007 will I b struck down by lightning for criticising the holy 1? Better stay indoors today just in case.
Agree with kwaj, when biton came on he kept position well and we seemed steadier, I like him as a player and if he can get back to the form he is capable of then he's a hell of a player.

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31 Jul 2016 10:32:01
Aindoh NOBODY is saying biton is a great player so not sure what your point is between him and Scott Allen.
Weirdly enough 2 managers have chosen biton over Allen as they tend to choose the best available players and the majority of fans don't rate either of them that highly but if push comes to shove I'd take biton.

What is it you think Allen will bring to the team that 2 managers are missing?

I heard man u looking for new midfielder perhaps they are unaware Allen is available.

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31 Jul 2016 12:01:01
Ed I don't know if u remember but I championed LG early on in his celtic career. I think he would do well for us in CL IF we get there and IF we get that creative player we crave.
I agree he might struggle with the midfield we have just now but just get the ball to him within striking distance and he hits the target more times than most.
I hear a lot of people saying he would struggle in CL, a tad unfair IMHO as all the squad would struggle not just him but he would be our best asset in it.
I think he is our best goalscorer/ striker since Henrik.

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31 Jul 2016 19:54:42
AIndoh, forgive me but I always thought you were Irish, i am sure you have posted that, if that is the case, I stopped reading your post when you said you were away in Ireland . If u don't know to say I was home in Ireland . I cannot expect any sense in the rest of the post .

If u are not Irish, I apologise.

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31 Jul 2016 01:45:53
There's one thing that's conveniently forgot about Biton, his arm around mass murderer Netanyahu. Sorry ed 007 much as I agree with you on plenty.

The hypocritical sh@te on here about Stokes and his so called allegiance to some up in the air freedom fighters, and the same cocks giving Biton Mom is nauseous.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't really hold that against Biton, remember we had a Pope that that was in the Hitler Youth - what choice did he have? It was a legal requirement in Germany and do you not think there would have been a million pictures of Hitler with the young Ratzinger if they knew he would one day be Pope?
You know how these thing work, TTTS, if you had been born in Israel you would have a different outlook and you'd have friends and family in the army.
It's amazing what football players are forced into by maniacal blood thirsty political leaders.

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30 Jul 2016 23:01:49
I actually feel really sorry for efe. He tries his best for the club and the fans repay him by booing. I think he just needs to move on. To be fair to the lad you could tell he was distraught tonight, he's tried his hardest and things haven't gone his way. Good luck to him in the future when (hopefully) he moves on! Still can't get over the disgracefulness of a few fans who think it's acceptable to boo him. All the best Efe.

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30 Jul 2016 23:29:03
He's not a bad player he just needs a club with no pressure and scrutiny he can't handle it.

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30 Jul 2016 23:38:34
Like I've said before, I don't even blame him anymore! It's the fact he keeps getting picked time and time again despite the fact he's a liability every time he's on the pitch! The guy should have been gone a long time ago! And yes it's not right for the fans to boo him, but he shouldn't even be in the squad never mind on the pitch! The league seasons hasn't even started and look how many times he's made an arse of it! When can u honestly remember the last time he had a steady game with no red cards own goals or costing us a goal! Give him a free transfer straight away to whichever club will take him! It's an embarrsment that this hasn't been dealt with by now!

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30 Jul 2016 23:42:12
Personally for me the abuse that Ambrose gets is absolutely shameful and i mean on here as well as in the stadium's and i agree he needs to just move on and hopefully his every move won't be put under a microscope like the so called best supporter's in the world have the guy has been nothing but a loyal servant to the club in his time and i'm pretty sure the last 3 Celtic manager's know a bit more about the game and him as a player than any of the armchair managers shouting their mouth's off about him do honestly booing a player for an og in a friendly makes me sick.

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30 Jul 2016 23:56:04
Astana beav.

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30 Jul 2016 23:57:11
Was a time I fancied efe for a wanyama type role and I'm still not sure he wouldn't be best there. Definitely needs a man behind him or a stalwart besides him. Frustrating. Hope he gets a break somewhere.

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31 Jul 2016 00:02:31
Astana MR, the same Astana were he let a simple cross go under his legs because he couldn't stay on his feet and lustig had to scramble the ball for a corner! Remind me what happened at that corner! Do u remember the Lincoln game before that to? Or was that the park the sun or some other thing that caused that!

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31 Jul 2016 00:07:14
The fact our fans were so quick to boo ambrose, our own player BTW, is disgraceful.

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31 Jul 2016 00:25:29
Beav he didn't give a goal away red nope he also cleared a ball over the bar that could have been an own goal if he didn't go for it the Astana player would have scored is he good enough for celtic no but he is a good player and every celtic fan was wanting Lennon to play him against juve because we were raving about him he is a good player his celtic careers over because he can't handle the intense scrutiny and pressure hh.

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31 Jul 2016 00:28:16
Btw beav O'Connell lost his man at the corner not Ambrose and gordan had a mare.

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31 Jul 2016 00:31:08
If a player fails to deliver on a regular basis, why should the fans be criticised for showing their dissatisfaction, if confidence is an issue the management need to resolve, doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome etc, etc.

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31 Jul 2016 00:37:37
Trim I think it just that we are down to the bare bones in that position.

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31 Jul 2016 00:43:41
To be honest when Ambrose plays full back, he's not half a bad player. I just get very scared when he plays at center back.

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31 Jul 2016 00:51:21
Juve! MR that was how many years ago? And how many games has he cost us since? I've said I don't blame him, because he can't help being an absolute imposter of a footballer! It's his managers and people above who should have put him out his misery years ago! I've never known so many exuses to get made for the one player in all my time supporting the club! And yes I don't agree with the booing, but I will not support a man who's constantly let the team down time and time again! Not with lack of effort but by a lack of understanding on how to do basic defending! I'm actually sick to the back teeth of talking about this guy anymore! And i can't believe after all the own goals red cards and giving away cheap goals I still have to! We started deilas reign with this guy and now we've started BR reign with him to! It's simply not good enough, regardless of injuries or circumstances!

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31 Jul 2016 00:54:58
And btw MR, there wouldn't have been a corner if bombscare had stayed on his feet and cleared the ball! But there must have been something wrong with the artificial pitch or some other lame excuse to defend the indefensible!

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31 Jul 2016 01:18:26
it's simple as this . Shouldn't need a debate, ambrose simply not good enough . However it happens he needs to leave the club . I know it's not his fault he plays but at end of day we need to be ruthless . We're not booing him for the sake of it . Give the fans a chance, we certainly can't cheer him. Too many people getting upset about critisisimg anything . **** me, when did we allow this to happen . What's wrong with not being happy . Last two years we've lost to Slovenian, Poland and Swedish teams to get to champions league . I maybe wrong but I'm sure our budget is more than theirs . No excuses, let's get the job done . Apologise for the language but at end of day of someone not good enough then punt him.

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31 Jul 2016 01:40:43
If you feel bad for him. You have to take that out of it. It's that bad with fan reaction to him that some make up other excuses . You can pinpoint glaring mistakes and Gordon is right up there as well. Combined they have weakened the team In vital moments through blatant mistakes. It's hard (being diplomatic, EASY) to pinpoint if those mistakes cost us millions but I'd say they have. Granted we haven't been good enough past the defense. There is nothing left at this club for him and if Gordon wasn't Scottish he would be the same. Nationality shouldn't cover a player but it seems to with us. All The 2nd chance mob are all home grown. A bit of sensible thought please.

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31 Jul 2016 01:35:24
Simply stating that he needs a new club but still when he does go
There will be another that gets it but whoever pulls the hoops on I'll have there back like the one on there's hh.

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31 Jul 2016 01:46:57
Well said Bobby!

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31 Jul 2016 02:23:17
Efe is simply a target for frustration, assuming the critical posters on here have the time, name one current player that has not made several mistakes in the position they play in.

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31 Jul 2016 02:34:01
I've got a better question! Name me one player in that team who's made as much mistakes and cost us in so many big games than ambrose! Of course players make mistakes! Just like everybody else any walk of life does! But the trick is to try and learn from the mistakes! Not constantly keep making the same ones over and over and over again! And yes it frustrating seeing the same guy get in the team time after time while clearly being so out his depth it's scary! There is no defence for this guy! And when he gets on the pitch again be it Wednesday or hearts away next weekend, he will make an arse of it once more! There's not a lot of certainties in life, but that's one of them!

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{Ed007's Note - Craig Gordon.}

31 Jul 2016 05:12:38
Some of the mistakes have started in mf (which is an area we are not solid) . Efe has been there Gordon is an ever present.
I sat with my brother for few of the last games and asked him to honestly assess Gordon. He is a big fan. 50/ 50s he doesn't exist. At a push 90/ 10s he will opt for zero contact. Don't belive it watch again. Watch it twice and disagree or reply. I don't for a second belive after years of being a keeper he doesn't know where the crunch zone is. By that I mean 3 or 4 players running in. Watch it. He avoids it and jumps to catch the ball in an imaginary flight path behind the action (or God forbid he isn't good enough to read a ball as pro keeper) . When everyone else has missed it he punches it. or flaps if there is any pressure on him away from the ball if it is followed up by extra runners.
Shot stopper argument, yeah he can stop shots but with the right angle what 6'3+ (professional) keeper can't? His fear of injury even stop's him from dropping quickly at awkward angles to make saves.
It is a tactical gift to any opposition and if you cast your mind back we did it when he was at hearts before he was glass . He went down south and stopped shots with a better defense in front of him than th jambos . His injuries added to his lack of courage. Anyone that knew anything about his game could take him to the cleaners years ago and we did . It's worse now because he is f**ked and can't take a hit.
Wake up and watch this guy.

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31 Jul 2016 05:21:14
My old granny would of kicked him up and down the trongate without breaking sweat. He would of apologised for signing after the kicking.

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31 Jul 2016 05:32:28
Too late :/.

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{Ed001's Note - never too late, should be done now for you.}

31 Jul 2016 05:37:47
bugger, must be a problem, i will get it looked at.

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31 Jul 2016 05:56:27
Non post again!
thanks for nipping that for me ed001 I appreciate it. I've had my say and I'll retire to my kip.
I'm sure my old granny would of though Gordon was a "lovely boy" (most of the time)

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{Ed001's Note - hahaha maybe. You can never tell with women, they can be evil when they want to be!}

31 Jul 2016 06:50:53
Agree ambrose must go. However what about Scott brown? Total waste of a jersey!

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31 Jul 2016 12:23:53
What has happened to the best fans in the world, we are barely under way this season and the only ones squabbling are us! It's laughable, if ambrose plays support him, we all know he struggles to handle the pressure. Sometimes I think some of us want players to fail. Personally if efe starts against Astana, I'll be supporting him from the north stand.
I'm also guilty of this. and I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. Ynwa efe.

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01 Aug 2016 18:09:59
Its unbelievable that we played possibly the best team in the world on Saturday and we were presented with the softest goal I have ever seen us getting . No abuse from the Barcelona fans scattered around the stadium or no boos .

For those who think the answer is that Efe only gets abuse because he has made so many mistakes . He has been abused and booed for a long time and Craig Gordon has made more mistakes than Efe had made when he was first abused.

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30 Jul 2016 20:10:26
Good workout and preparation for Wednesday hh.

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30 Jul 2016 20:09:39
Do you think we could give effe away for nothing .

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30 Jul 2016 20:37:37
Dempster, would you take him for nothing? That should answer your question mate 😁.

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30 Jul 2016 22:18:18
Is it just me that feels sorry for ambrose, he can't seem to do anything right. Before you say it old bhoy a know we get on his back and it maybe knocks his confidence but that all started wae his **** ups. Tonight he really looked defeated but and a did feel a bit for him. Time to go big fella for your good as well as ours. Good luck but. Hink Russia are looking for some gymnasts.

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31 Jul 2016 22:22:29
Is Dempster a manager of a professional football team, if not why should
he take Efe
If he is maybe we should be told what club he manages and we could all him with our expert scouting 😄😀.

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30 Jul 2016 20:04:28
Apparently villa have lowered the asking price for SS to 4m, I would imagine that would be enough to get a deal over the line.

Xavi "soundbite" Celtic have the best fans in Europe.
Good to know from the legend.

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30 Jul 2016 20:33:37
best fans in the world my arse, we just booed our own players, people constantly bitching and moaning on here and the season ain't started yet.

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31 Jul 2016 22:27:55
Bhoywonder, I couldn't agree more, we much do more to weed out the people who abuse our players and who boo them . We give so much abuse at our own players we are letting opponents off with ridiculous tactics and we arn't pressurising the refs like we used to. Celtic Park isn't the hot bed of fear for our opponents anymore.

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30 Jul 2016 19:57:59
Rogic has to be a guaranteed starter.

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30 Jul 2016 19:42:22
I would take young Sergi Samper on loan for a season! What a player this guy is! Surely won't see much first team football at Barcelona next season. At 21 surely this is a make or break season for him!

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30 Jul 2016 19:55:03
Why would or should we take any of these players on loan if there's no chance of getting them at the end, development of our own must be the way forward. No benefit, the like of Toure as a quick fix us more beneficial as he has a wealth of experience and an excellent attitude. A quick fix with long term benefits.

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30 Jul 2016 20:06:51
We should be not be taking anyone on loan unless there is an option to buy.

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30 Jul 2016 20:38:03
Ok ok guys I was really just saying this boy is a player! And he is 21 so this must be a big season for him! Why not try and buy him for a few million with a buy back clause like Barcelona just did with Denis Suarez who they have just bought back. Let's him get some games behind him then if he impresses and grows into a world class player they buy him back!

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30 Jul 2016 20:46:04
What's wrong with loan players?
Dont understand the logic above tbh! some of these players we would never have a chance of signing permanently and if we bring in the right player for the team with NO transfer fee then how can that not be beneficial.
Yes it's a pain giving them back but better than not at all.

Plenty of clubs loan players, clubs bigger than Celtic.

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30 Jul 2016 22:04:02
Gaz your second post almost sounded as if you had backed down from your origininal post?
Your right!
I'm not a fan of loan deals, but Samper is head and shoulders better than what we have, why not have him for a year? In that year before he leaves, we should be looking to fill the gap but that's too hard for our recruitment team lol
It's not going to happen because he will have his pick of loans deals.
We try do develope our own but in all honesty, were streets behind, coaching, attitude and mentality! Just a fact, it's a shame because we have crackin players but just not good enough!
Tick67 it's almost like when we are linked with a striker. And his goals to game ratio is 1 in every 4/ 5, he's not what we need according to most (me included)
See if the same guy was a 1 in 1.5 or 2 we would have no chance of getn him, because that's top money and we don't pay top money playing mince week in week out!

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30 Jul 2016 22:26:27
We are a selling club . Hard to accept but it is what it is . In my opinion all Celtic football club should be concentrating on is what puts them in the strongest possible situation for the season ahead . Whether that be Loan players or youth players I don't know . Patrick Roberts though is a perfect example of why loans can work in our favour . He won't be with us next season but is a must pick for me . If we can't afford to buy players what is wrong with loaning them if it makes us Stronger . We are not in a position where we can plan ahead . that's the reality.

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30 Jul 2016 23:27:32
Defo Bobby, why would any celt not want what's most beneficial for the team. There are no guarantees with football and I've lost count the amount of below average players we have signed over the last 5/ 6 years.
It's not the fee that bothers me it's the fact they have a squad place and 3 or 4 year contract which tends to lead to a top heavy squad and you find yourself having to sell before you buy.
I would love for us to be able to say right we want him so how much, ok there go but that's fantasy.
If we were producing players like KT ever year we would be fine but we're not hence the loan deals.

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31 Jul 2016 22:31:25
Maybe when the boy heard Celtic " fans" boo their own player during a pre-season friendly, he might say no thanks, there are hundreds of clubs I can go to whose fans wouldn't boo me.

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30 Jul 2016 19:26:16
I know its only a friendly bit why do celtic continue to play and even keep ambrose, he's got to go, seriously brendan rodgers can not be blind to it.

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30 Jul 2016 19:31:05
Is this all you fellas can talk about . try and have alook at the game and understand it.

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30 Jul 2016 20:38:48
2nd goals his fault regardless whether Gordon shouts or not and he should have BTW, but the third goal what cb let's the ball through his legs criminal defending.

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30 Jul 2016 21:04:38
2nd goal as much gordon as efes fault!
3rd goal gordon should be out taking that ball instead of standing like a statue!
Not the first time gordon has done it neither but everyone will blame ambrose because he is an easy target.
(PS. both not good enough just sick of ambrose taking blame for gordons f ups too)

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30 Jul 2016 22:28:06
I read somewhere that efe is a phenomenal trainer, no pressure and he shines. Unfortunately we are just too big a club and too much pressure for some players. Likeable guy that has so much time for the fans but psychologically the pressure is too much and when a wee mistake happens it sends vibes round players and fans which only heightens the pressure. Wish him well in his next move and hopefully it's somewhere he can show what he can do, but it's just not at celtic. On Craig Gordon we need a keeper who bosses his defence comes for balls and wins them taking anybody out. No idea who that keeper is but can only hope.
Hail Hail
COYBIG.

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31 Jul 2016 12:36:46
Sick of this crap! The second goal wasn't solely efes fault as there was not only a keeper 5 yards from him with a better view but also other defenders able to shout and let efe know to leave it. it's a bloody TEAM game afterall. To boo him after this is a bloody disgrace! Try giving the guy some confidence instead, as he most probably will Start this week.
I'm actually embarrassed by some of your comments. Get used to it efe will most probably not be leaving parkhead this season either. Personally will be behind efe whenever he starts, feel for the guy now, not as if he never gives his all for the hoops. more than can be said of others.

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30 Jul 2016 18:53:57
It's just turning in to a really bad joke efe playing, he must have something over PL or DD some incriminating photos or he is the best trainer in the world.

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30 Jul 2016 19:56:23
Or are all our defenders injured.

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30 Jul 2016 20:04:05
What other options do we have? For a friendly at that, the fact we're getting beat of Barcelona is a shocker isn't it. Naw. I don't rate Efe ultimately, but the fact their entire team are a class above us has it all down to him. We all know already we need better defenders bud. But there are world class players made to look as muchbas a mug than him.

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30 Jul 2016 20:35:24
Well said Jim Tim, I detest those type of games unfortunately were forced to play them for the much needed revenue. Some on here need a reality check if we lose a game we're utter crap then we win the next and we're world beaters. Thankfully every game we play from now on will be meaningful apart from Inter and I've got to say I'm quietly confident the way things are shaping up.

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30 Jul 2016 20:41:45
World class players or not name the last game efe played without making a mistake? There must be a player in the development squad we can play considering it's only a friendly, if we are going to keep efe he needs time out of the first team to reflect and try to get his confidence back putting him in games to get abuse from fans our own and opponents is doing nothing to help him going forward, what must go through his head when away fans cheer his name when he starts? Either give him a break from the first team or get rid.

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30 Jul 2016 22:52:24
@stevie only person that needs a reality check is yourself, the self designated super supporter. Never seen anything constructive posted from yourself.

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31 Jul 2016 00:12:50
And what do you call a constructive post DN? Wanting BR sacked after one competitive game or writing off Dembele after 3 competitive games are just two of your constructive recent posts.

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30 Jul 2016 18:49:53
Can anyone on here explain what mcgregor is bringing to the team I know a lot like him but there's nothing there no key attribute unless losing the ball is one bewildering.

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30 Jul 2016 19:07:39
I agree rg! For me he does nothing in a game I really think he is a weak link in the team. Not good enough for Celtic!

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30 Jul 2016 19:19:07
Hes an impact sub starting i'd rather play Henderson he's a much better CM!

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30 Jul 2016 19:36:13
I've never seen him make much of an impact SOS!

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30 Jul 2016 19:40:01
I haven't watched todays game, I have no idea if he's playing or how he's playing, or wvwn if this post is based.

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30 Jul 2016 19:42:53
On today's game, but I'd shift McGregor. There's no where I'd have him nailed down, and there are better players for evwry department.

Sorry Ed I think I pressed enter somewhere through that. Wat?

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30 Jul 2016 19:56:04
Mc Gregor should be on the move on list.

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30 Jul 2016 18:41:24
How many times is a manager at celtic park going to keep selecting Ambrose before we kick him out. he is amongst the worse defenders ever to play professional football.

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31 Jul 2016 22:46:29
If we are going to boot Efe for mistake making, then we need to boot the whole team . I defy anyone who can prove any player who has played 90 mins in a game without making a mistake . Last season L G scored 40 goals and has scored two goals in this past week in Europe, yet he has missed goal chances, made mistakes .
Every midfielder has given the ball away, made mistakes.
So Efe has to be the scrape-goat, we have to get rid of him for mistake making.

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30 Jul 2016 18:06:28
Very weak Barcelona team by the looks of it! But regardless they'll still give us a game! Messi and Suarez are evil together! HH.

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30 Jul 2016 18:31:44
We canny get near this very weak Barcelona team in the first quarter of an hour and it's a reminder of how far we have to go, to even compete at CL group level.
It's possible Barcelona will tire as its their first match pre season and our fitness will compensate for the gulf in class? A wee result here would be a good boost for the Astana game.

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30 Jul 2016 18:40:39
You're right there mate. Can see that Barcelona aren't at there full potential. Once again good from paddy roberts, wish he was our player.

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30 Jul 2016 18:48:04
Unfortunately we have stars like big efe playing for us another game another cock up.

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30 Jul 2016 18:50:47
BBC live feed says it's a strong Barcelona side.
Anyway, regardless Efe strikes again!
What can you say.

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30 Jul 2016 19:09:37
Maybe we've been playing Efe at wrong end of the park?

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30 Jul 2016 19:58:17
What clown calls any Barcelona weak?
Their second string could compete in Epl and challenge in SPL.

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30 Jul 2016 20:24:01
Half agree TTTS I think their second string would win most leagues in Europe outside the top 5.

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30 Jul 2016 21:43:56
Guys are we not being overly critical here. It's Barcelona in a pre season friendly who gives a monkeys.
It's about getting players fitness up and tbh there isn't a better way than to chase Barcelona across the pitch for 90 mins. If we won 3-0 would you then be spouting we have a chance of winning CL?
I feel some of you guys throw far to much criticism at the team for the most irrelevant of things.
If we get skelped next week fire away but give it a chance.

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31 Jul 2016 22:51:50
I was at the game and Celtic controlled the game for first quarter . Ba got a good goal out of nothing . We were still doing well and got a goal from the Ba defence, best club team in world making a mistake . We lost a bit of enthusiasm after Efe and Craig gave away a goal and I think the booing of the small number of Celtic support affected the Celtic team.

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30 Jul 2016 17:24:42
Any new news on sinclair . was he in the villa team today .

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30 Jul 2016 17:55:41
wasn't in the starting line-up
. not sure if he was in the squa8.

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30 Jul 2016 17:55:58
On the bench, never made it on. HH.

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30 Jul 2016 16:54:55
They constantly get criticism for their behaviour wether on field or off but I have to say well done to Messrs Messi and Suarez for taking time out to chat and pose for pics with little Jay Beattie.
Great stuff.

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30 Jul 2016 17:16:45
Good PR for messi, he needs it atm.

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30 Jul 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Celtic match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Celtic Live Chat page

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30 Jul 2016 14:54:25
What's everybody's predictions for tonight then? I'd love to see us sneak a draw but unfortunately I fancy Barcelona to win 3-1.

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30 Jul 2016 17:24:29
dont really care much about these games kev if i'm honest, as long as we put in a performance i'm happy, leicester was an fantastic game i thought. more of the same please.

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30 Jul 2016 11:41:53
Not saying these are dead certs and 'lump your cash on 'but a few bets i fancy for today are - 2.00 goodwood - projection and 3.45 goodwood - alben star - and my acca is anderlecht, legia warsaw, sturm graz, and plzen -!

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30 Jul 2016 17:27:37
How'd your horses get on johnboy. not seen any racing the day.

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30 Jul 2016 18:25:39
Terrible haha back to the drawing board! Hate close season just want regular football back each week and normal coupons again!

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30 Jul 2016 11:36:14
Hearing that we are waiting to see what happens against Astana before committing to any more signings, if true, and may be BS, then the club are taking the piss. bring in top drawer manager, fans buy season books, then this pish.

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30 Jul 2016 11:47:15
could be right Kev but i'm not buying into it just yet, there's no way imo that BR wouldve took the job without a significant budget to make his mark on the team, he's brought in 2 players that has advanced the squad for next to nothing, and we don't know wots going on behind the scenes ( were really good at that) . too many supporters jumping on bandwagons from the last few seasons, ( i remember it from MON days) , we've got till end of aug to get players in and ill make my judgement then, but i do think we will see 1 or 2 in the next few wks.

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30 Jul 2016 12:04:30
I was patient, but I'd like to see a couple more in over the next few days. I was always confident of the first two CL qualification rounds, I'm not counting any chickens but I still am. It was always the play-off that would be tricky for me. We've gotten the experienced CB I was asking for, but I'd like to see a LAM and a GK in and settled before that tie. If we qualify, then a couple 'marquee' players as a cherry on top.

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30 Jul 2016 12:09:16
Still think we need a centre mid that's better than what we've got. We have good players in that position but they are all inconsistent.

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30 Jul 2016 14:42:02
Nothings really changed apart from a new manager. As long as PL and JP are still involved and likes of @stevie spouting nonsense, nothing is going to change. I think most people predicted a big name for new manager to gets bums on seats but its no use unless we have a clear out and new faces are brought in we are not going to progress.

Watched the games we have played recently and i stand by opinion of Dembele. don't rate him one bit. Likes of stevie and marco1888 can try slate me all they want, but he played an absolute howler against a team of plumbers/ police/ joiners and looked out his depth aganist Astana. Yes he is still young but if he was the class to take us to next level he would of played better in these games CONSIDERING HE PLAYED 46 GAMES IN CHAMPIONSHIP LAST SEASON, in a higher standard of league.

Hope i'm wrong but can't see it.

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30 Jul 2016 14:47:01
Tricky one that one LM67. I'd like to see a proper CDM in there, although Brown has been good doing that role so far by himself - but when I know the player Brown, Bitton, and Johansen can be, whilst wanting to see Henderson and Ajer developed, it's only realistic for me, if we move one of those players on.

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30 Jul 2016 14:58:54
DN30 I saw Dembele play several games in the championship last season. He is no world beater but he is decent, not wonderful but decent. Celtic would not win the championship. Putting my tin hat on now but it's a fact. Maybe 4 players at Celtic would get regular football at one of the top 6 championship teams. Now Dembele for what ever reason has not started yet but he can play. The other point is PL. He has done more to hinder Celtic than improve it. He has an easy job. Don't speculate to get CL football, sell the best players and make sure we make a small profit or break even but in doing that we are going backwards. he does not care as he will walk off to the sunset after trouser img £1mill every year. he should have gone with RD.

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30 Jul 2016 16:13:49
DN slating a player (a young one at that) after 3 competitive games lol, you are clearly sinking to all time lows.
When will you leave PL and Park out of every debate we already know your feelings on them. MOVE ON.
If only you had seen the same after 3 games about your beloved RD eh lol.
Ed has continually harped on about the fickle fans at the ground and on here having a go at young players after making a mistake, I afraid you are 1 on them the way you act.
Young players will never get better without support and ALLOWED to make the odd mistake, that's how they learn.

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30 Jul 2016 19:21:38
But Rayman that's not true. He has played 54 games 15 goals for Fulham. There is no excuse here that is reasonable. He has more than enough experience to play better aganist likes of Lincoln Imps and Astana. Teams in ECL are of a far superior standard.

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30 Jul 2016 20:34:27
But DN u are not judging him on those performances u are judging him on 3 celtic performances at 19/ 20 years of age.
You have no idea how good he was at Fulham.
No excuse? for a 19/ 20 year old are u for real.
In relative terms even tho RD was a rookie, compared to Dembele he was Alex Ferguson yet u raved about him.

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30 Jul 2016 11:12:20
Dixie Dean 70 years young today, 124 goals in 184 plus a row of front gnashers. They don't make them like that anymore.

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30 Jul 2016 14:05:44
Mixed feelings about Dixie, on the pitch he was great player, unfortunatly off the pitch he was a great player too.

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30 Jul 2016 16:18:39
Why do we criticise players for what they do/ might do off the pitch.
As long as they are not breaking any laws and not neds I cudnt give 2 hoots what they are like as long as they produce the goods on the pitch.
Commons, Mulgrew, etc all get slated for off pitch stuff but they have done well in a celtic shirt.
Hartson, Sutton Thompson and many other players of the past were no angels but they produced on the park.
How we would love anyone of the 3 previous players now eh.

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30 Jul 2016 16:27:39
As a footballer he was great. I don't mind most things off the park mate, but when you piss on your own chips, and contribute to a mans downfall then i have to say that it affects how i see that person.

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30 Jul 2016 10:05:09
Anyone see that new naked dating show on ch4? Samaras was on it, had been wondering what he had been up to. Hope the woman who used to sit in front of me watched it would have been all her Christmases at once.

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30 Jul 2016 07:56:28
Hi guys also new to site but follow everyday . Not a rumour but after reading your posts about a RB and people moving on first but not completely unrealistic would love to see jon flannagan - watched him for years class player with bone crunching tackles. Cheers guys HH.

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30 Jul 2016 08:14:09
Agree JohnBhoy! Imagine him at right back and Teriney at Left back it would def add some steel and pace to the defence!

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30 Jul 2016 08:41:24
Exactly gaz them 2 plus sviatchenko and toure would do me fine! - also on topic of a goalkeeper wasted on the bench and though he was class in holland and for swansea - michele vorm - think someone mentioned him on here recently maybe 32 but wasting his career on bench at spurs.

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30 Jul 2016 08:50:25
On a brighter note in the celtic footballing world - i hope tierney continues on the path he's going - can't talk highly enough of him his talent and proffesionalism on and off the park also seems quite grounded and not caught up in hype and fame just gives 100% for the badge every game. joy to watch . 11 players of his effort and professionilsm would be the future of our club. Real star in the making.

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30 Jul 2016 00:38:21
Lots of talk about past players, but can you really compare cooper with the likes of Di Cianio for me a genius I've great respect for cooper, but not in the same league as Di Canio. Think we should be talking about who we can get on board for the season ahead, and what may be a difficult play off in the champions league when we get by Astana HH.

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30 Jul 2016 02:12:10
Lubo was above that. But ludrup and henk were class above that.

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30 Jul 2016 16:28:32
Laudrup was top drawer along with his brother, I nearly shiit myself when I heard he was going to them. I was a big fan as a young man till he went to them.
Di Canio was exciting to watch and went onto prove himself down south, but never really won much tho I loved him.
Lubo was the best 2 footed player I ever seen, never before saw a player who could hit a set piece with either foot, and still to this day haven't.
Cooper I admit was a classy player whenever he got the ball in an old firm game u were worried and had a wand of a left foot, but he could be very inconsistent.
Henrik is prob best of the lot, it was always doubted esp from the other side he cudnt do it at the top level.
Well he moved to a couple of no bad teams after us eh lol.

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29 Jul 2016 23:42:16
Hello ed

What positions do you expect Celtic to strengthen by the end of the transfer window?

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{Ed007's Note - I think it will depend on who leaves, not just financially but the size of the squad is simply ridiculous. For two years RD spoke about needing to trim the squad and they still brought even more players in. For an example, there's no point going out and buying another CB, when they're all fit we'll have Sviatchenko, Simunovic, Toure, Boyata, Ambrose and now young O'Connell and possibly Ajer all vying for 2 maybe 3 starting spots. People are saying we need a RB while we have Lustig, Janko and Fisher, there's no way we'll buy a RB without at the very least one of them moving on. Where do Allan, Commons and Rogic fit into Rodgers' high pressing game? Is Ciftci even good enough to be a 3rd choice striker, what if LG or Dembele get injured?
I was talking to a mate on the phone earlier and his opinion is none of them want to leave because of bonuses for qualifying for the CL, once that's sorted and they're paid up we'll see players move on and free up squad places.
In saying all that I will be surprised if there isn't at least another 2 or 3 new faces just to allow Rodgers to put his own stamp on the squad.
For me personally I'd like to see a GK, a quality creative MF/CAM and another striker brought in.}

30 Jul 2016 08:44:56
Agree with Ed, if Celtic are to sign only one more player let it be a creative midfield player. We have been crying out for this for years. We really do need to move on some players as the squad is too big and bereft of the required quality!

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30 Jul 2016 10:14:14
Like Ed, Ilot of talk about centre halves, forwards for me we are crying out for a midfield player who can dictate games with his passing. For the purpose of banter, a Paul mcstay type! Lots of banter about Allan, I have not seen enough to comment. Like all players I want him to be a success but worrying that Rodgers doesn't seem to rate him!

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30 Jul 2016 21:27:12
Agree with you ed, dafa and angel, those 3 positions r key for me, said that in another post. If we don't bring another keeper in, which wouldn't surprise me unfortunately, then I'd rather go with tweak than Gordon. Never rated him at hearts n don't rate him at Celtic either.
Ed I heard a bit back ago vincent Jansen getting mentioned, although this was more so posters on here, have we ever been interested or had him watched?
Also with the Scott Sinclair signing, if it happens, do you think we definitely won't b going for elynoussi anymore? pity as I thought he would be a great addition, fast and with an eye for goal.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not aware of us ever being interested in Jansen mate, he's a cracking player right enough. Elyounoussi joined Basel earlier this month.for a 3 million Euros fee.}

30 Jul 2016 22:07:12
Cheers for the info Ed mate, never saw that, he looked a right good player as well and at 3 million euros and 21 I believe? would have fit the young, relatively cheap up and coming prospect. Add to that decent experience in Europe for that age and yet were going for Sinclair who's older than that and also has been hit and miss for how many seasons now. Pistol Pete and parks signing policy now, if there is one, makes no sense to me and if they're still doing it, which I'd assume somehow they're still involved? reason I say that as was reading an interview with dembelle who said we were after him in January, so looks to me like they are still involved in the signings as br clearly wasn't here, just like Rd wasn't here when Gordon was signed.
Jansen was mentioned on here before, although I assume it was nothing more than that but would be a good signing too and young as well.

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29 Jul 2016 22:06:07
Alright ED. sent a few posts lately and a few haven't been put up. don't know if it's a problem on my end. just thought I'd check mate.

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{Ed007's Note - I can't see any problem mate. There's the one I've just answered you on, there was one yesterday and then before that it was the 24th you last posted according to what I've got on my screen.}

30 Jul 2016 01:49:29
Cheers ED! 👍🏻👍🏻 4.5 million is quite steep for a guy who's hardly what u would call been on top form the past few years! Looks like BR fancies getting him back to the player he was when he had him at Swansea I guess. if he can manage that then we'll have a good player! And it will hopefully put and end to seein Forrest anywhere near the team! He must have looked at wee Roberts the other nite against Astana and cringed! Now that's what a winger does! Another one who should be long gone from celtic park!

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{Ed007's Note - But it's buttons if some of it depends on CL qualification, say it's a 4 year deal and £500k every year we're in the CL, half a million out of CL money is nothing but Villa would be gambling with a possible £1.5 million payout. That's just a guess with numbers, Beav btw and assuming a 4 year deal this summer would only cover 3 seasons worth of add on money.}

30 Jul 2016 08:59:01
Ed, I don't think Villa fancy the gamble either but if no one else is prepared to chuck £4.5 million at Villa for Sinclair they are left with a player on the books taking £30k a week (not sure if he is on that but expect it won't be far away) for the next 2 years just to warm the bench. I think they will wait to see what happens on 2 fronts. One, if Celtic qualify for CL this year, as that may give them some encouragement and secondly just wait and see if anyone offers £4mill plus for him. I think £4mill upfront would get him. Is there any other club linked with him?

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{Ed007's Note - The price to English teams is a straight £6 million deal (but again that would be negotited to suit) and according to Sinclair's Mrs there are English clubs interested in him. Sunderland were on his trail but that' went down the plughole since BFS took the England job.}

30 Jul 2016 11:32:54
4m is far too much for him . if we are prepared to pay that for a player who had had one good spell on his career why not show a bit more ambition and buy Marco pjaca 1-2 million more and far superior player.

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{Ed007's Note - Is that the same Marko Pjaca that cost Juventus 25 million Euros last week?}

30 Jul 2016 13:32:23
Never seen that ed he was brilliant against us a couple of year ago the price was around 3.5 million watched his progess before the euros seen quotes of 5-6 price . just shows what a good cameo at a major tourney does for your value.

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{Ed007's Note - And the difference in prices depending on who's buying.}

30 Jul 2016 15:09:11
Ed didn't know it was a 6mill asking price for English clubs? don't think he is a £6mill player but the money down there is obscene but he is never going to go to a big club so it's a lower Premiership side who may buy him and they tend to be very careful with their cash, so maybe that £6mill price tag helps us?

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{Ed007's Note - Remembering that EPL sides must have 8 home grown players in their squad do you really think an EPL side would pull out of a deal for a home grown English player over a couple of million of quid? The fact he's English is probably why they have stuck an extra few quid onto it.}

 
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