Celtic Banter Archive August 30 2018

30 Aug 2018 23:37:11
I think we will see more outs than ins tomorrow as we have a number of players who will get nowhere near the first team. If we keep Dembele and Boyata as well as adding Mulumbu and Benkovic then i think we are in not bad shape. I would like a RB as i think Lustig is done but i don't think there will be any more additions other than the 2 above.

31 Aug 2018 00:03:54
Totally agree DD81, trim the squad and a RB would be excellent.

31 Aug 2018 00:54:37
I think the Fembele move is still on. If club get upwards of £20mill. I think Moussa has hamstring problems that won't go awsy and he does not want to be here so an unhappy Moussa. If hamstrings go again we won't get £20mill next time. Another unhappy player alongside Boyata. Let both go.

31 Aug 2018 06:10:07
Totally agree, whilst everyone would love dembele to stay it’s clear the lad wants to go. I can see Brendan’s point regarding us needing a quality replacement for him but what happens now is looking like us having 2 unhappy first team players ( boyata and dembele) the thing is dembele must realise celtics position though as it’s not as if we’ve weeks to get a replacement for him. If he doesn’t go by tonight then one things for sure is that his time has come to move on so we must actively look to replace him and let the boy move in January/ next summer. £20 million plus for a guy we bought for less than £500 grand plus has countless problems with his hamstrings is good money in my book. If he’s still here come Saturday morning could an option be to give him a new vastly improved contract? Give him a good wage rise, add a couple of years to his current deal and safeguard us for maximising a future fee? If he stays we’ve got to have a happy dembele not a dembele that’s face is tripping him, and also guarantee that come January/ next summer a bid that Celtic find acceptable, the player finds acceptable then he must be allowed to move.

31 Aug 2018 06:46:47
I don't agree with this crap about unhappy players, I mean these guy's are highly paid professional players who earn vast amounts of money that are under contract so should be professional and get on with it. Knuckle down do the damage and get their moves in a few months.
I'll tell you what makes me unhappy is going to work for £700 quid a week and paying out a fair chunk of that to go and watch a lot of these guy's moan about the money they make or the games they have to play, some of them need a fecking reality check I tell you!
💚🍀 HJ.

31 Aug 2018 06:49:00
I think that agreement will already be in place when he signed his first contract. We should already have strikers scouted just incase he leaves, is that not what big clubs do?

31 Aug 2018 07:35:51
I think we should let him go as long as we maximise the fee where possible. He has done well for us for 2 years and he wants to go. An unhappy employee of any business is never going to give his best effort. Doesn't matter if they're a chicken plucker or a brain surgeon. Unfortunately he is injury prone too and can't seem to find any consistency in starting games.
Imagine this, you're in a job and you have a fantastic offer from another company and your boss has told you that you can't leave even though when you started with them you were told you could go when you have more experience. What are you going to do? Are you going to continue to turn up on time and give everything you have with a big smile on your face? Unlikely, isn't it?
So the problem isn't with Moussa, the problem (yet again) is with Congerton, the board and possibly BR for not seeing this problem and taking preventative action before it became an issue. As as been said by a few of you before, our scouting network is definitely 3rd rate at best. They have sat on their arses doing fekk all at a time when they should have been delivering their best ever results.

HH.

31 Aug 2018 08:04:27
Bob it wouldn't surprise me now if he ran his contract down. He's been lied to by someone, either Rodgers or the board.

31 Aug 2018 09:02:23
It definitely seem that was Stephbhoy2 from the posts dembele has been putting up. One about being told lies for example. As good as he is l don't see the point in not accepting the money when we would have all read that in time Celtic would not stand in his way if a big move came in. Celtic can t afford another nightmare problem with a player and in dembele case can definitely not allow his contract to run out and him go for nothing. Time to take the money lm afraid.

30 Aug 2018 23:20:54
If we keep moussa we are strong up front.
Benkovic boyata jozo and ajer are out 4 main cbs which gives hendry time to learn and develop.
Nthcam broony mulumbu calmac rogic in centre mid
We haven't replaced Armstrong in terms of attacking threat but we will most probably play a 352 if we keep moussa.
Sinky Johnston arzani Morgan Forrest- we haven't replaced paddy or musonda (who should have been class) so creativity from wide areas I think we are short.
The main one, right back. If we somehow sign one tomorrow then I think the window has been ok just very annoying the way we have left it last minute as usual.

The scouts need to up their game now. Every club in Europe we need to enquire about right backs, keepers, striker for next year.

Also Brendan was down at man city, assume nothing going to come from that : (.

31 Aug 2018 00:48:11
Hendry shouldn't need time to learn and develop, he's approaching his mid 20s. He's no kid. Simunovic is rubbish and needs punted and I think lustig is now better suited as a cb if we could get a rwb bought to replace him.

30 Aug 2018 23:15:55
Lets focus on our football now and put this window behind us. We get some things wrong, but we also get so much more right.

30 Aug 2018 23:49:51
For example? Are you serious? We got more right? A guy without a club and a one year loan?

Jesus, our ambition has really bottomed out if you think we did more right. This window has cost us the CL. List us McGinn and Benkovic is off before we play in the qualifiers next year. How can that be anywhere in the postcode of right?

31 Aug 2018 07:11:57
Agree with MP, this window is far from being right! Uninspired and desperate are the 2 words that spring to mind! And how long is it going to take mulumbu to get up to speed if he’s not played since may? Him and the izzagurie signings reeks of desperation! And going into next years qualifiers we’ll have no Moussa no boyata, the lad Benkovic will be back at his club! Were is the forward thinking at our club by the way. its an absolute joke honestly! If people think we’ve done more right than wrong in this window then that worries me.

30 Aug 2018 23:12:48
After watching Sinky again tonight continually cutting inside and being snuffed out 👎
Does anyone else not think he should be switched over to the right hand side to use his pace to get to the by-line more often I'm really sure he would be far more useful there?
Ok he may not score as many goals as has done but I bet he would create more?

30 Aug 2018 23:29:08
I wouldn't mind trying him more central or a second striker.
After all he knows how to score goals.

30 Aug 2018 23:05:35
I find it baffling how a lot of fans judge a transfer window’s success purely on incomings!

This summer there’s been serious interest in or bids for:

Dembele
Boyata
Ntcham
Tierney

Yet, it looks like we actually keep hold of them all, despite losing out on the CL jackpot.

That’s a great effort. Yes we could have had more players in and strengthened another couple of positions like right back, but overall, when you assess both incomings and outgoings, it has to go down as a good window.

How many clubs actually have the perfect transfer window and keep everyone they want to keep while singing everyone they want to sign?

Prime examples this summer, the two biggest clubs in the world:

Real Madrid - lost Ronaldo and not replaced him with anyone even close to his level

Man Utd - desperate for a centre half, didn’t get one.

30 Aug 2018 23:14:03
Disagree with your prime examples. Firstly, Real Madrid haven’t replaced by anyone close to his level because there is no one who is close to his level except Messi. Secondly, Man Utd were looking for a world class CB. We could have improved on Hendry and Jozo very easily without getting anywhere near that calibre.

30 Aug 2018 23:31:16
Real Madrid wanted to try and replace him and were linked with Hazard, Rodrigo, Neymar and Mbappe. Got none of them.

Utd wanted Alderweireld, Macguire, Boateng. Got none of them.

My point was that no matter how big a club you are and no matter how much money you have, you don’t always get what you want.

And surely we have got better than both of them in Benkovic? Rodgers said he wanted to see what was available once the window shut in England and that's exactly what's happened.

{Ed007's Note - Madrid also tried to sign Salah but his agent was laughed out of negotiations when he asked for 600k Euros a week and a staggering 50% of the image rights deal.
What about Spurs, all that Pub League TV money, guaranteed CL money on top of their £2200 season tickets and they never made a signing - it's crazy but already there's clubs in the Pub League admitting they made a mistake closing the window early and want to change it back.}

30 Aug 2018 22:26:09
Well there you have it. BR just said on radio Scotland he's looking to compete 2 deals. Mulumbu and Benkovic.

Edouard - £9m? Not convinced that fee is accurate
Bain-Free
Izziguire-Free
Mulumbu-Free
Benkovic-Loan

What an outright pathetic transfer window and it not the first time that's been said. How the board get away with this year on year baffles me. Where's the CL money from the last two years. Where's the transfer fees pulled in for Armstrong, Sviatchenko and one or two others as well as the VVD bonus £7m.

It's time for action imo.

30 Aug 2018 22:35:19
Totally agree Ice Man. And Mulumbu has been a few agent since May! Clearly he was high on our list of targets. Shocking window.

30 Aug 2018 22:35:59
U sound shocked mate! I said earlier this window will go down as one of the worse I can remember! It’s been a shambles. and mulumbu and the Leicester boy are acts of desperation! We won’t be replacing paddy or Armstrong or getting the right back we’ve needed for the past 18 months! We’ve spent nothing this window when u factor in the fees we’ve received for the players u mentioned! Poor poor stuff yet again.

30 Aug 2018 22:40:01
If he's saying 2 then that means dembele and boyata stay . hows that a pathetic window? id rather get another att mid and rb and swap boyata but at least we would have added defender and that's what we've needed for 2 years if not longer . i know we stock pile the money in terms of transfer fees paid but it goes in wages payoffs new contracts loan fees and other stuff i have no clue about . its not a good window by any means but if we keep our best then its definitely not a pathetic 1
Hail hail.

30 Aug 2018 22:56:42
Benkovic is a coup and Mulumbu will do a solid job. The best thing you can say about the window is the fact we can play Mulumbu and Izzy and rest Broony and KT (our 2 most influential players) and will get the best the best of them over the season. RB is a must now and a bit of creativity. Does anyone think the fact both Christie and Hayes came on that could be their last game in a Celtic shirt?

30 Aug 2018 23:16:28
I actually think we have a reasonable robust and skilled set of squad players in the making. I'd have loved to see a right back in but the signings made are solid. Arzani will come in as well. Morgan will return and Johnstone looks capable. If we can shift commpo Allen De vries and loan/ sell kouassi benyu and Ralston it's not been bad. Oh and keep md and boyata until January anyway. we've spent money many times and ended up with crap. Powell wouldn't be terrible either but he seems to be the new Robbie Keane rumour.

30 Aug 2018 21:51:21
I know it was only Sudova but there was a lot of pressure on them tonight and they passed with flying colours. Credit where credit due especially to young Johnston who I thought was terrific. Christie also brought a lot of energy when he came on. Well done all and onto Sunday.

30 Aug 2018 20:47:25
What pot would Celtic be in for the draw tomorrow?

{Ed007's Note - Pot 2 according to folk that know better than me.}

30 Aug 2018 21:41:57
There was an incredibly slim chance of Pot 1 but I think it’s long gone.

30 Aug 2018 22:01:40
We shouldn't be worried about seeding in the Europa League: we're there to compete with whomever the competition puts in our way to the title.

30 Aug 2018 20:25:45
Is it just me? "His head in not in the right place" what the F@*k! He is paid to play football! Probably the best job in the world and one of the best paid! But a bid comes in for a player and that means they are not in the right frame of mind to play football. It's a joke! We are Glasgow Celtic Football team one of the greatest teams in the world! It is a privilege to wear that strip and run out in front of 60000 of the most passionate fans in the world! Get rid of anyone who claims to not be in the right frame of mind to play for CELTIC! We are Celtic! Celtic! Get a grip! And get out there and play for that shirt!

30 Aug 2018 20:48:22
Spot on mate! Incredible that someone who’s payed thousands a week to play in that stadium in front of like u said best fans in the world head isn’t in the right place to play! Don’t think the situation with boyata has helped at all in these situations by the way! Anyone who doesn’t fancy playing just says there head isn’t right! your payed to play football, so get your arse out on that pitch and help your teammates! Embarrassing!

30 Aug 2018 21:01:44
Phoning in tomorrow. My heads not in the right place. Thatll be me up the job centre on Monday.
Different world these guys live in.

30 Aug 2018 21:37:25
Probably didn’t want to play because he would get abused off folk like you lot.

30 Aug 2018 21:53:55
What player?

30 Aug 2018 22:09:34
Aye, no bother Gerry, just as long as you are happy with our star players deciding they can't be fecked playing for Celtic but taking a huge wage.
For the record, I would crawl through broken glass to play for Celtic.

30 Aug 2018 22:29:08
You want a pat on the back or something rab? Fact is you don’t play for us and he does. We all knew he was leaving at some time or another. We’re through that’s all that matters tonight.

30 Aug 2018 22:58:53
The head is not in the right place was surely invented by agents a long time ago. It would be nice if they just said due to on going discussions the player in question at the time is no available to play tonight. To be honest l can understand why they don't play from there point but it's hard for supporters to accept. The player clearly doesn't want to get injuried.

30 Aug 2018 19:38:41
Anyone know where you can watch the game tonight? Is it on Celtic TV?

{Ed007's Note - Yes it's on CelticTV or here's a stream:

www.hesgoal.com/news/33233/Celtic_vs_Suduva.html

30 Aug 2018 19:46:22
Thanks Ed much appreciated 👍.

{Ed007's Note - No worries.}

30 Aug 2018 18:50:32
Is forrest injured or rested, ed? Also thought Eddie was fit maybe keeping him wrapped up for them.

{Ed007's Note - Dropped.}

30 Aug 2018 19:17:21
Rodgers comments on moussa are intresting, saying he can't see him leaving, I'm wondering if the rumours of him signing a new contract are true, here's hoping.

30 Aug 2018 19:20:07
You’ve ruined my night mate. I hate hope!

30 Aug 2018 18:29:48
Brendan starts to announce signing of Lumumba in the dressing room the night. Gets as far as Yousoff and half the players say, "Aye, the morra! " 😂.

30 Aug 2018 19:17:20
Booooooooooo.

30 Aug 2018 19:20:42
Tough room.

30 Aug 2018 19:48:37
That was shocking Davie :- (.

30 Aug 2018 17:09:49
Enjoy the game the night bhoys and girls HH and hope we get some additions in the morra.

30 Aug 2018 16:47:44
Quick question; If you subscribe to Celtic TV, do you get EVERY Hoops game live?
My 'Live Streams' on Android/ laptop are getting very hit-and-miss.

30 Aug 2018 17:17:31
As far as I know Celtic TV is for non uk customers mainly. You can subscribe but I do not think you can watch live games although you can watch the full game "LIVE" later on in the day. This I believe is also dependant on LIVE games being shown on other channels eg Sky, BT etc. Hope this helps, I looked into it just last week as my mother was interested in getting it. mainly for Sevco game but I thought it was not really worth it. AS HH COYBIG.

30 Aug 2018 17:24:25
I think you do if you live out with the uk, otherwise you get the full game on TV once the live game has finished. or it used to be.

30 Aug 2018 17:24:35
Not if you live in the UK.

30 Aug 2018 18:08:36
I think you can work the system be using a IP vanisher.

30 Aug 2018 18:09:03
Unless you get a vpn 😏.

30 Aug 2018 18:13:56
If you can get an alternative ip address I think you can watch it similar to Netflix USA.

30 Aug 2018 18:24:13
in the UK you pay £50 a year, you don't get the games live apart from preseason. What you do get is a delayed replay of every full game from 11pm or 12 midnight the night of the game.
I personally think its worth it and i have been a subscriber for years. its a bit of a pain though avoiding the scores so you can watch it later.

30 Aug 2018 18:31:43
Thanks guys - all very helpful stuff. Cheers COYBIG.

30 Aug 2018 18:39:05
Game live for all tonight.

30 Aug 2018 15:44:48
Mulumbu-way, Mulumbu-way
Mulumbu-way, Mulumbu-way

In the market, the transfer market, The Lawwell looks for frees.

In the jungle, the Parkhead jungle, the fans are on their knees

Mulumbu-way, Mulumbu-way
Mulumbu-way, Mulumbu-way.

30 Aug 2018 15:55:07
Hahaha at least we can laugh. There's still plenty of time for a bargain.

30 Aug 2018 16:56:56
The barras shut at half five.

30 Aug 2018 17:56:14
Steph I dread to think what kind of player youd call a bargain. as mulumba is below bargain basement level.

30 Aug 2018 18:22:49
It was a joke.

30 Aug 2018 14:44:14
Mulumbu might not be the star studded signing we all wanted at Celtic but get him into the starting 11 asap and that means this Sunday against Sevco. We're far too slow and soft in the centre and need a lot more pressing and aggression. HH188.

30 Aug 2018 15:19:12
Decent signing for me. Not the greatest signing. But we have the best player in the country and the best yound centre mid in the country in our team. What we needed was cover. I rated him at WBA and he was usually a stand out for Killie. The window has been poor so far but looking at the deal individually, it's not as bad as folk are making out.

30 Aug 2018 15:53:33
Like the rest of us haven't got a clue about Celtic recruitment policy. That aside this boy was superb against us last game at Kilmarnock.

Not what we were all wanting but definitely good enough for the spl.

30 Aug 2018 16:27:13
I’m happy with the signing of Mulumbu. I feel
The the only player who we don’t have like for like cover should he get injured is Broony and I think Mulumbu can fill that void. Broony is 34 now so we cannot expect him to play in every game. Thought McGinn would slot in there eventually but as that ship has sailed I’m happy to get Mulumbu. I’m not comparing the two but he plays a similar style to Kante very energetic high pressing game.

30 Aug 2018 17:36:08
Is he even match fit? Don't remember reading that he was doing preseason with anybody.

30 Aug 2018 18:07:04
We sign mulumbu.

Our CM options are.
- broon
- calmac
- tam
- oli
- kouassi
- allan
- Christie (ACM)
- Bitton (back in training)

But at CH.
- boyata (wants out)
- compper (who)
- ajer
- hendry
- jozo

And at CF if moussa goes.
- eddy
- griff

We basically have 24hrs to shift the deadwood and bring in the 'quality' to improve the team.

I hope we do it n do it right with 3 or 4 of they CMs n 2 CHs off the books and we get in proven replacements otherwise we'll have 9 CMs? Baffling.

30 Aug 2018 18:19:41
He is a decent signing but no where near match fit. Will take a month or more yo get him upto speed. Has no pre season behind him so why wait till now unless of course he was waiting to see if anything better came along.

30 Aug 2018 14:35:27
I know the page is red hot with anger, frustration and disgust; however, we still have a very important game tonight and although Lawell and co seem hell-bent on demoralizing, dismantling and depleting the squad, it's a tricky tie tonight the way we are and could define the season.
After tonight, there must be a Stewards Inquiry into the way our club fails, flounders and falters at almost every one of these 'windows' - selling assets and then scrounging for last-ditch loans; while still expecting, continued success and support.
The scouting system is atrocious for a club of our size and stature and those who are failing should be publicly ousted ASAP.
There is more 'scouting' and potential player identification done by our posters on Google and You Tube than this Congerton man and he has to feck off - before our manager decides to walk?

30 Aug 2018 14:43:12
Once a Bhoy

100% agree with you on this .

"there must be a Stewards Inquiry into the way our club fails, flounders and falters at almost every one of these 'windows' - selling assets and then scrounging for last-ditch loans; while still expecting, continued success and support"

HH

30 Aug 2018 15:08:08
Congerton needs to sod off and take most of our supposed scouting department with them.

30 Aug 2018 15:45:31
Its like being in the twilight zone I haven't seen anything like this in any window ever ITS VERY CLEAR WE NEED PLAYERS IN but going to this time in the window is demoralizing and financially inept Mulumbu Is ok IMO I am not saying we need to spend a lot of money but we do need to freshen up CB should have been sorted out as soon as the window opened but same old board we will wait and see got us knocked out of the CL WHEN WILL THE BOARD LEARN?

30 Aug 2018 16:53:32
Did BR not hire congerton? Think he his man.

That he came from Sunderland shouldve been a warning.

I feel like most teams domestically have strengthened but we have not, if boyata and moussa were to leave that's essentially the spine of the team weaker whereas our rivals have strengthened the spine.

Got to be hard to beat n build from a solid base / spine. We appear to give almost everyone a goal, not the form of champions.

30 Aug 2018 18:25:35
Congerton worked with BR previously. He was appointed by BR. There in lies the reason BR can't pick a player. Great coach but poor when it comes to identifying a player. Majority of the team on Sunday will be players already at the club when BR arrived 2 years ago. That's shocking.

30 Aug 2018 12:58:58
So Dembélé has reportedly agreed terms with Lyon. Lyon just sold there best forward Mariano Diaz back to Real Madrid for a reported 25-30million. Dembélé is much better than him so if we don't get at least what they received for Diaz then it's shocking. HH.

30 Aug 2018 13:11:42
Agreed, but he doesn’t spend as much time on the treatment table which has had a big effect on MD’s worth. If he remained fit and in form he would easily get £25m+. As it is £15m is about his worth.

30 Aug 2018 17:35:48
Rangers fan in peace guys. I'm not denying dembele is a talent but our league is of such a standard that even if dembele scored 50 goals he still wouldn't fetch much more than what you's r getting.

30 Aug 2018 12:11:55
Being on the other side of the world during a time like this is driving me nuts! keep checking the internet every 5 minutes in the hope we sign some "quality" players.

Keep thinking I'll wake up and it was all a nasty dream!

30 Aug 2018 12:44:10
Don’t waste your energy mate, there will be nobody of note being brought in and this will go down as the worse transfer window I can remember! Losing our best striker, our so called best centre half doesn’t want to be here, lost Armstrong and paddy. a shambles and an embarrassment! Had to change user name ED, posted as lh86 but posts not going up, probably my crap fone lol!

30 Aug 2018 09:38:35
Where'd you hear/ see that kev? everythings going wrong at the worst time?!

30 Aug 2018 07:11:42
Just read that they are going to pay the big invisible Germain off.

30 Aug 2018 07:50:43
Long overdue kev.

30 Aug 2018 07:54:32
Been hearing that for weeks.

30 Aug 2018 07:57:41
Must have someone lined up to come in. If not they'd keep him.

30 Aug 2018 09:32:05
What's the point in keeping him. He has played 90 mins since he came in.

30 Aug 2018 12:12:59
That will be costly because his deal runs to 2020 :- (.