Celtic Banter Archive September 02 2015

02 Sep 2015 22:24:02
So ,all closed, and done. This time last year and the year before,I have been Slated on here for screaming what is going on,when I said Boycott, no more spending,I got ripped apart,anybody changed their minds? Last years Guedetti,boys,tell me I was wrong when I said he was not our solution.To all the RD lovers, "Forget the Elequent English" they all speak that, he is not for us, let us give him a F_____g good ROAR into history

02 Sep 2015 22:52:56
So who replaces Ronnie then? And how would that change our lack of spending?

02 Sep 2015 22:59:53
Ouch dry yer eyes Malika20! You are not the only one who has been rallying for change! Quite a few people on this have.

How the hell is RD meant to achieve anything with his hands tied behind his back?

02 Sep 2015 23:26:05
Said it time and again it's the half whits above RD that need shipped out! But I still think he needs to shoulder some of the blame! The 3 must win games against Maribor legia and Malmo he has been shown to be tactically naive! Yes the quality has dropped and I blame Lawell for it,but if u had said last year all we need is a home draw against Maribor and a draw away to Malmo to get in the CL we would have took that! So Ronnie has to take some of the blame! I want the guy to be do well I really do! But for talkin sake,if we perform poorly in the EL and struggle to win the league,do we really give him a 4th chance at CL qualification? I really don't think we can! And for me not bringing in a striker will come back to bite us on the arse! Think it's shocking that one wasn't brought in,really do! Now we've got 1 striker who can actually score goals! Not good enough for me!

03 Sep 2015 00:27:32
Get rid of the manager what a lot of baws your talking mate agree with dh88 dn30 not a lot to add to what has been says Rd needs to do it the hard way with no help atal from the board sell best players and replace with young prospects not good enough anymore we been selling our stars for last 3/4 years and eventually going to run out of stars to sell

03 Sep 2015 04:18:53
G&W: you make a point that I haven't seen on here before: that there will come a time we have no more 'stars' to sell. Quite true. We will command lower and lower fees, sinking further into European obscurity. This can't be the plan. They surely must see it?

03 Sep 2015 08:03:55
I agree that the standard if player has dropped. No doubt about it. We still had enough on the pitch to beat Malmo. Overall the standard of football we play is poor. That's not just down to the player. The manager is playing players in positions they can't play well because he is demanding to play his system. He has signed 18 players in a year. 7 have gone. wait till the Duropa stRts then at the end of that group stage come back and tell me then if RD is right for Celtic. Issue ha that no matter how poorly we do people will still say it's the quality of player? Look at Warburton at Rangers. No money spent but already have a half decent squad. Delia has spent over £20 mill. Forget what has come back in from VVD etc he has spent £20 mill in just over 12 months and we still don't have a team who can even beat Malmo, so don't tell me RD knows what he is doing, he is lost!

03 Sep 2015 08:38:05
Johnnymac Deilas not spent £20m

03 Sep 2015 08:55:13
I said after Davie Moyes was sacked by Man U that we should approach him as our next manager and I have not changed my mind.
Good young managers are not for us neither are developing good young talent from other clubs. By the time they learn from there mistakes they decide to move too a ( bigger) club for more money.
There are very good international players out there around 24-25 for reasonable money but wanting good wages.
We need to remove those people who are holding us back, that starts from the top and goes all the way down to the coaches of our youth. Then maybe we can show Europe what this club can achieve.

03 Sep 2015 09:10:41
Jonace Uve got to realise that moyes and others at that level won't come to us! One we couldn't get anywhere near his salary and two the budget,or should I say lack of budget isn't going to entice these guys to come to us! That's before u even talk about the standard of the SPL! Not going to happen buddy.theres a reason Ronnies here mate,and that's because he's the cheap option! Who won't rock the boat when it comes to money and will go along with what Lawell and DD say! There's no way a manager with any real pedigree could work with the way we're working right now! Bargain basement signings and no European ambition! Who wants to come and work under those circumstances? I'll tell u,Young scandanavian managers who would bite your hand off to come to Celtic! Regardless of the budget or ambitions!

03 Sep 2015 09:30:33
If you read my post you will see I want change from the very Top PL and DD too go. When Moyes left Man U he struggled to find work and had we stepped in I believe we could have found a package that would have been acceptable to both parties

03 Sep 2015 09:49:43
This decline has been on the cards since the Neil Lennon tenure as the Board persisted on appointing untested and 'cheap' managers who would not challenge their authority.
RD was given time after his disastrous baptism and towards the end of last season - seemed to have made progress.
The CL failure has stirred up a hornets nest of doubt and anger - even though we played well enough in spells during the first leg v Malmo to put the tie to bed.
Our basic defensive mistakes and individual errors reflect badly on the whole coaching staff - especially the manager.

It is very unlikely we will change manager in the immediate future, but if our domestic form and EL performances don't come up to scratch, the fans will not hold back.
There is much resentment and unrest among supporters at the direction we have taken since WGS and fan-power can never be taken for granted or disregarded.

03 Sep 2015 10:55:18
Totally agree about changes at the top jonace! Lawell and the rest can't pull the wool over the fans eyes anymore! It's Been year after year of steady decline in the playing squad,while taking in millions on player transfers! And the loss of 2 seasons worth of CL money,which is 30 million plus,for me was the last straw! I hate sayin boycott games and things like that,but the only way these smug pricks in the boardroom will get the message will be if we don't buy EL tickets! Don't put more money in there pockets to not re invest! Enough is enough! And reading RD Talkin about we've got the money to spend in the next window to really boils my blood! The money should have been spent in this window! Left back and more so a striker were a priority at the start of the window! And I mean a decent striker! Not ciftc,who for me is nowhere near what we need! But here we are in September out the CL,lost arguably our best player and we're still waiting on them! But we've got the money to spend in January!!

03 Sep 2015 14:18:47
It seems anyone can talk about boycotting and holding demonstrations .

However organising either ,seems to be beyond any of us. Thank God .
Things may seem bad enough , but if we stay together and work together we will have a better chance of success than separated and pulling in opposite directions .

02 Sep 2015 19:15:32
Guys, since we are snapping up all the local talent in Scotland, Allan,Armstrong,GMS, Christie etc. Have we missed the boat with Shinnie?

02 Sep 2015 19:55:29
Ali Crawford is going to be a star Ray

02 Sep 2015 20:36:05
The only Scottish player I'd have taken over the last few years from our league is Ryan Gauld, think the guys got real talent which hasn't been seen in a Scottish player for so long. Andy Robertson a distant second but we had him and let him go. I would have also kept Tony Watt, think if Ronny could have corrected his attitude he could have made a great lone front man out of him.

Anyway the rest is much of a muchness for me including Graham Shinnie, Stevie May, Armstrong, Gary Mackay Steven, Scott Allan, Ryan Christie etc. Bang average imo who won't add much to us in the same way a lot of the foreign players have to us over the years. Wouldn't have signed Cifcti either.

02 Sep 2015 18:18:11
Hi ed phoned the ticket office asking for clarification regarding my seat for El games re yesterday's post.Was told Uefa may want the area that I occupy therefore my seat would be unavailable for said games,and would be allocated seat as close as possible to y own.Ed watching the news today and see that Craig Whyte is being questioned regarding his acquisition of rangers,if that is the case should David Murray be questioned as it was him who sold it for £1,it's probably wishful thinking on my part .killy.

02 Sep 2015 17:06:54
Can someone let me know why the jock stein match is at east end park? I know he has links to dumfermline but he's legendary he made his name at celtic. I firmly believe there woulda been a good crowd at cp for this occasion. The way our club has treated the lions in the past is nothing but embarresing, its only in recent times that big mcneil has been treated decent,,he was only the first manager in britain to win the ec

02 Sep 2015 20:49:50
Was that not his 1st managers job

02 Sep 2015 22:04:38
RyderBrown in what way have the Lisbon lions been treated embarrassingly,not having a go just curious.killy.

03 Sep 2015 04:29:47
Started with the Pars I think. Also, probably depends most on who is organizing paying for and promoting it. got to say tho: it'd be a great bit of press for them. We can get ours any time.

02 Sep 2015 15:48:25
Gutted to see VVD go but I was impressed with the way he discussed Celtic and appreciating everything the club did for him. If nothing else, that shows any potential targets that Celtic are a good club to play for and they will make the effort to keep you and make you feel wanted but won't stand in your way if the time is right to move on. It's good to see him go there and not get ripped into the club/league. Good luck to him.

02 Sep 2015 18:30:03
No problem with him moving on to further his career . Southampton being his next stepping stone to a bigger club.

Our problem, it at least mine, is what we do with any if this money. Usually wasted on wages if total fuds who couldn't get a game doon the school on a Sunday. PL bints and preferential share dividends fir failure.

That always gets me. :)

02 Sep 2015 20:52:04
Magic hoy I would like to think that Celtic paying £5m or whatever on a young 21 year old direct replacement was a good message of intent by our board .
Lets back our new Croatian and seven other new signings and hope they all do well.

02 Sep 2015 14:18:39
Disappointing not to get a striker in but out of the names mentioned I would rather not of got one. No doubt we will approach fletcher in January on a pre contract

One player I have always liked is Tony Watt. Better than the rumoured strikers and don't no how disruptive or any of that he was but on ability he would be up there as a good signing imo

02 Sep 2015 20:56:13
Kieran , I doubt you are flogging a dead horse as far as Tony Watt is concerned

02 Sep 2015 12:28:02
Ed any idea of the fees for Simunovic and Virgil? Seems to be a lot of conflicting reports. Just trying to tot up how much has been banked this window.

{Ed007's Note - I've not seen or heard anything official official yet but the van Dijk fee looks like £12.5 million and a 15% sell on clause. Simunovic's fee is a bit more difficult to find out but cicra 4 million Euros seems to be the most popular figure. It'll be easier to find out in the next few days.}

02 Sep 2015 14:06:28
That's a great piece of business by Southampton, they've picked up a bargain getting vvd for that. I was expecting nearer 18 or 20 million for him as he'll shine out in that english league

02 Sep 2015 15:00:14
He will end up at Liverpool next season no doubt :P

02 Sep 2015 15:31:11
Cheers bud. Bit more pleased that Virgil is circa £13m. I reckon we're up about 13m after transfers and wages on last year. Hopefully we'll see a busy january but hope is all I have.

{Ed007's Note - Hope might be all you have buddy but love is all you need.}

02 Sep 2015 18:08:55
And cakes

02 Sep 2015 11:42:08
Ed I seen on the TV that a loan window opens next week does this just apply for English teams?

{Ed007's Note - Yes mate.}

02 Sep 2015 11:14:46
Here's my thoughts on the transfer activity this summer

Zaluska has left and been replaced by Bailly. No huge difference imo

Matthews sold and replace by Janko. Although Janko looks promising not at the level of Matthews at this stage

Denayer gone replace by Boyatta. Again IMO a much less talented playe

VVD sold and Simunovic brought in! Although I appreciate we have to give him an opportunity to prove himself I'm guessing at this stage he's not at the level of VVD

Guidetti gone and replaced by Cifti again although Guidetti had ego issues he's still a far better player than Ciftci

Scepovic loan out and not replaced!

Can't see Allan and Blackett making a huge difference to the team and although I like the look of the lad Christie can't see where he fits into the team at the moment

Season after season the club takes giant strides backwards under the current regim off DD and Peter Lawall's leadership! PL himself said ever penny that the club make in transfer fees will be spent on strengthening the team. Well in the last two years we have received £34m from Southampton alone £6m from Swansea, £5m from Norwich, £2.5m from Notts Forest and £2m from Sunderland! I've probably missed on or tow players out too! That's almost £50m in transfer fees yet how much has been invested in the team?

This club will never move forward under the current leadership I'm sorry to say!

Time for a new start

02 Sep 2015 12:13:22
Kinda sums up how a lot of us see things.
The club has been in a unique position for 3-4 years with CL qualifiers virtually guaranteed; so the sensible thing would be to ensure qualification to increase income and improve the club on an ongoing basis. We accept that players will be sold as the Scottish league has poor appeal, but at least we would have had CL to use an a 'carrot'.
We have failed on so many levels and yet Lawell gets rewarded (handsomly) year after year for mediocrity.
The support are being taken for mugs.

02 Sep 2015 12:41:38
Just makes you wonder if we had the carrot who would we be happy about signing today?

02 Sep 2015 12:46:24
I like the look of Allan thought he done well coming on at the weekend looks a lot more creative than Johansen has been this season but with Rogic he will struggle to get a crack at the minute

02 Sep 2015 11:02:10
Well, another window smashes shut. All the hopes of hearing a penny finally drop, dashed again.

The tragic thing is that not one of us will be surprised. It's just the way it is with those who run the club.

If I ratchet my expectation level down any further, I will pop oot in Australia.

02 Sep 2015 10:10:20
HenriksTongue is awfully quiet

02 Sep 2015 10:31:52
👜at dawn. 🐠 🎣.

02 Sep 2015 09:51:40
The transfer windows rarely leave me feeling upbeat, confident or content and this one is no different.
The dependence on Griffiths to get goals is a huge gamble and a sign that we will persevere with one striker for the foreseeable.

It was inevitable that VVD would leave as he virtually said his goodbyes after the Malmo fiasco. The club had ample time to line up a replacement (of equal quality), but have gambled again on unknown and untested, inexperience.
The rumours that Zagreb are over the moon to get rid of their guy for such a fee is worrying.

We had several weeks to offload the deadwood and failed to clear the decks and free-up wages and costs, which could have paid for a striker and I still feel, we could have done with a bit more experience in defence and midfield?
Even a loan deal or two should have been arranged as insurance.

We have bought another bright young Scots talent - and loaned him back? I know we are a charitable club, but what's the thinking there?
If we didn't need him, then why not go for a player we can use NOW?
The Christie and Allen transfers, appear to have been done - to stop them going elsewhere and I know we are building for the future, but is that not what Lennoxtown is for?

Well, the window is closed and apart from out-of-contract nomads,that we can rummage through; we have made our bed and time will tell if it's a bed of roses or a hammock precariously hung over a pit full of Sh*te.

02 Sep 2015 09:04:06
Well we all expected it and I'm pretty sure RD like ourselves are sitting and wondering what the heck was that. I'm reasonably happy we have the CB and LB covered. Yes there's a big question mark over the whole CB lad coming in but all we can do is wait and see. In all honesty my disappointment was more towards players going out. Not enough deadwood cleared in my opinion.

I'm all for having homegrown players. But when you see the calibre of players were bringing in I'd rather just give our own youth a chance. Would the 1million odd spent on Allan and Christie not have been best used upgrading our own academy, paying wages for a better quality of youth coach ect.

02 Sep 2015 08:45:05
Well another transfer window and yet more disappointment! To not go and get a striker is an utter disgrace! I never believed any of the bull about fletcher Michu ect but to not get anyone is a joke! Like I said last night if griffiths gets injured or goes off the boil! To me RD is a puppet to Lawell and the board! No faith in him at all! Says we need experience brought in yet every player we brought in is under 25! Apart from the goalie! Guy doesn't know what he wants or what he's doing! 9 million profit on VVD and no striker brought in is an embarrsment! But I'm not in the least bit surprised! Now let's show Lawell and the rest of these pricks how we feel by not buying EL tickets! What's the point! We'll only get embarrsed in that to! Can really see ciftci making a debt in the Ajax and fenerbache defence! Knocked out the CL and lost arguably our best player in one week! If that doesn't force Lawell and the rest to spend money on a decent striker then nothing will! I for one will be going nowhere near the EL games! Hope I'm not the only one! Joke!

02 Sep 2015 06:47:41
We're a JOKE of a club, the Zagreb fans r laughing at us for signing him, 5m? Don't know anything about the lad, but reading between the lines, he's a big DUMPLING, it's a myth we're years ahead of that mob, total myth, I NEVER call lawwell liewell, but I can't help myself now, FXXKING JOKE OF A CLUB, I've just woke up, checked the signings, had hoped of a decent striker signing, NO fxxk all in, SHOCKING, GET THAT BOARD OUT NOW, and take the look at me, am so Ronny incompetent, that the Ronny roar has turned into EVERYBODY GETS A RED FACE WHEN HE DOES IT, we get bet off of a NO BETTER than an Scottish championship team in Malmö, 3 days later he's bouncing about the park fist pumping into the crowd for ANOTHER poor performance against a poor SPL side! A wish the police would jail these tubes as well, get them away from the club we ALL love.

{Ed001's Note - can I just ask what would you have liked them to do differently? I understand fans want to see big signings, but just who exactly are you going to get to go and play in Scotland right now? Surely the priority should be, as the league, with all due respect to the rest of the SPFL, should be a formality, is to build a style of play that is attractive and exciting for the fans to watch? Along with working hand in hand with the academy to bring through players that can take the club to the next level.

Or is it that, as a football club there should be no profits, as every penny should be re-invested in the club? If they can't find players willing to play in Scotland who improve the team, then those profits should be put back into the club in the shape of increased investment in the youth system, facilities (both for the team and supporters) and reduced ticket prices. Now if that is your gripe I am fully with you, as that is how every football clubs should be run. Sadly it seems all you are bothered about is not getting big enough names to drool over in the window.}

02 Sep 2015 07:41:27
Well buying players like Allan and Christie and ciftci proves we're not bringing players through, I know we're never Goney attract a big name now, but for crying out loud man, players from Dundee Utd caley thistle and hibs, that's our summer transfers?? There's a BIGGER problem up there than meets the eye, attractive football? When we seeing that? One upfront, look Ed, your a good man, you do a great job, but this sites about opinions and rumours, and I can't see or hear ANY Celtic fan happy with how the clubs being run, in terms of attracting players, playing attractive football, bringing through youth, scouting systems poors, we're just a poor Scottish club now with NO ambition, get Ronny the yes man to FXXK, we canny stick the Ronny roar anymore, it's embarrassing, yasssssssssss we bet St Johnston, he having a laugh? Malmo 3 days previous just rubber stamped him in a whole, where's our £69m in transfers we're recouped since 2011 they keep on banging on about?? No youth coming through, 2 years in a row NO champions league football, in fact, KNOCKED out the champions league 3 times in one season, the same as last year, need signings, and decent ones at that, before the champions Qualifier, we go for ciftci And Allan, FXXING JOKE, then now we're needing a striker, a midfielder a defender, we buy Christie and loan him back to caley, we buy a defender that the Zagreb fans are laughing at, and we don't get a striker in! No mate, it's a total disgrace the WHOLE RUNNING OF THE CLUB, and what it's became!

{Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying, it does seem the club are just happy to settle for winning the SPFL and not challenging in Europe, so long as they continue to make a profit. I was just putting forward some other things the club could do, if it was simply about being unable to attract those players that move the club forward. Rather than just saying 'it's all crap', I was trying to suggest how the club could fix these issues. I know full well what will actually happen is that the board will pay themselves well, rather than using the money to do something for the fans. The club has forgotten its roots, it should be about keeping the ticket prices as low as possible while still winning things, not about making a profit. Sadly the current ownership are not interested in what the club was set up for, they are just interested in making money out of it.}

02 Sep 2015 07:51:19
Your partly right ed001 I think what he meant to say ( or I hope he meant to say) was that we are crying out for a striker. If griffiths gets injured we don't have a proven goalscorer. So a new striker was/is needed doesn't need to be a big name.

{Ed001's Note - yeah, I can see that, was just trying to give a different viewpoint. One suggestion though, what about Forrest up front? Is he any good there? Only he is useless out wide as he can't cross, but his pace could be a useful weapon up top.}

02 Sep 2015 08:03:30
First time poster??

02 Sep 2015 08:42:56
Tim1972 a lot of feeling and understandable frustration. The bottom line is that we ARE a big club with a massive support but we are stuck in a small time league. We can't generate the cash needed to consistently compete with the big guns of Europe (who have arranged the CL so that THEY can have 2 and more clubs dining at the top ). I don't think for one minute that no one in charge of the club did not know we are crying out for a striker but who? No real big names want to come to the Scottish league. Its not that they don't want to come to Celtic. is the league we are in. We have to settle, in most parts, for he young players we can sell on for a good profit.
That said, as Ed pointed out, our directors are not paying themselves accordingly. i'm sure if we looked at the salaries and perks that the big gun club directors get then our lot are pretty much on par. I know its been done to death but I don't want us spending ott for the league we are in (like some clubs not a million miles from Parkhead) but we could afford to up the wage structure to attract a wee bit higher caliber than we get right now. I also like the idea of maybe trying a few changes up front (forrest in the middle is not such a bad option)

02 Sep 2015 08:47:43
Ed I can see what Tim is saying and note your points as well. I don't think any of us understand what is happening at Celtic. It's not just about paying transfer rates, the player needs to want to come to us and without CL football that proves more difficult. We have signed 18 players in just over a year. 7 are gone and the rest are ok or unproven such as Allan, Cifti, Christie, etc. out of 18 signatures we should have a decent side now and we don't. I hate to say it but Warburton without spending money has got Rangers sorted out. He has only been there two or three months. Ronnie us never going to get us playing this attractive football he talks about. He has not galvanised the side, looks lost in Europe, is winning in SPL but that's a given. If Rangers were in the SPL now they would be 2nd or 3rd. the players Celtic have brought in this transfer window are not going to improve the side in the short term so it's useless fans talking about giving Ronnie time to get his team together. He has signed 18 players!! How many do we give him? No it's time for Ronnie to get the team playing attractive football and holding their own in Europe. If he gets humped in this Europa league it's time to let him go. Actually it's time to let him go now but that won't happen. So Ed the postfromTim is probably like me, he just can't see where we are going with the Ronnie experiment and he is right, we are going nowhere.

{Ed001's Note - what happened to the attractive football Deila was said to play then? Has that not materialised so far? I have only got to see you in Europe and I really wouldn't want to judge you on those games.}

02 Sep 2015 08:51:40
The way wee James was tackling the other night we could try him at fullback. Big TG had pace and goals to his game.What do you think Ed. Imagine wee James bombing doon the length o the park.

{Ed001's Note - would he have the positional sense required? It is a common move though, failed wingers often end up as full backs.}

02 Sep 2015 09:00:29
Forrest's biggest problem is decision making. In his second season, when he was only 19 or 20 I think, he scored double figures so he has the ability. What he does is get into great positions and panic. Most of the time the defender takes the ball off him while he's still deciding whether to pass or shoot.

02 Sep 2015 09:35:40
I think the boy Christie will turn out a good buy, Allan I have no idea as hardly seen him, but Celtic have spent money in recent years albeit on dross, so whoever choosing & buying the players should be getting the bullet.
How many midfielders do we need?

02 Sep 2015 09:56:58
Marco we do have a proven goal scorer but because our fitness /personal trainer /diet guru has his head so far up his #### he can't back down and use a game plan to suit what he has.

02 Sep 2015 12:18:25
In what sense are we to consider ourselves a big club? Also, as for being in a small league, it hasn't,t stopped teams in MSL, J league and the Middle East attracting some top, if not fading stars. Now I know that is not what we need or want, but it does disprove the myth about the quality of league being a deciding factor, so it is usually about the cash on offer!
My main worry is that RD seems to be totally oblivious to the scenario unfolding around him. He sounds more and more like the yes man many thought he was and keeps making sound bite statements at odds with any reality.
If we had a manager of any repute, he would have probably resigned after that window, I,m afraid he is our Don Quiote, chasing windmills (look it up).

{Ed007' Note - RD is a coach, people need to modernise their thinking and move away from the old fashioned managers like Stein or Fergie.
There's at least 6 trusted lieutenants at Chelsea who advise Abramovich on players etc before Mourinho is even consulted, they brought in assessors who didn't like AVB's training methods so he was sacked.
Piet de Visser has the authority to sign ANY player he sees anywhere in the world without having to even ask Abramovich to sanction it whether Mourinho likes the player or not. It doesn't matter how much it costs, de Visser has the authority to negotitiate on Chelsea's behalf.
Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Man City, Chelsea etc in fact most top continental teams use a system that when the coach or manager leaves there's as little chaos as possible, the head coach is only another transient employ, a cog in the wheel that doesn't have any effect on the way the club is ran at the top level..
Any managers of repute didn't want the job, one in particular refused to work with Peter Lawwell because of his interference and general lack of footballing knowledge.
He's a businessman, not a footballing man, what CEO of a football club holds a meeting without his head coach or manager just to have zonal marking and the difference from man marking explained to him, why does he even need to know that? Is he 9lanning to give tactics talks before games like Romanov at Hearts done?
People are blaming RD for other people's failings, RD isn't in charge of player recruitment, we seen with the Tony Watt situation that he has little power when it comes to selling players and contrary to poualar belief he has nothing to do with contracts, wages or transfer fees paid.
Liverpool lost so much confidence in Brendan Rodgers in the transfer market they brought in a commitee to decide on transfer targets and Rodgers had very little input.
They tried that with NL and look how that turned out, that's why his duties were dwindling in his last 18 months, people in high places seen that he wasn't up to the job so decided to begin looking for either a more experienced manager type or go for a more modern approach where the coach and his team concentrate on the footbaling side of things.
CFC fans are the only fans I know that blame the manager for the board's failings, Man Utd are blaming Ed Woodward for having a terrible window, he couldn't get deals done, Arsenal fans aren't blaming Wenger for failing to close the Benzema deal, they blame the board and Chelsea fans aren't slaughtering Mourinho over missed targets, the fans understand that isn't their jobs.}

02 Sep 2015 13:36:14
I know RD is the easy target in all this and we are all just venting our frustration and anger, but he is doing himself no favours with some of his statements. Suppose he is damned if does and damned if he doesn't. And he will take the wrap if things don't improve.

{Ed007's Note - Of course the buck stops with the manager/coach, it's the nature of the beast and it couldn't possibly be the fault of a self-serving ego-maniacal CEO who is paid more annually than his Swansea and Southampton counterparts combined.

Peter Lawwell (Feb 2014): 'We’re in arguably the best financial state we’ve ever been in but it makes no sense to keep the money in the bank. We want to invest in the club by investing in good footballers that create value for the club.
Celtic can buy a £6-8m player if the value is there.
We would not buy a 29-year-old at £8m on a four-year contract at £40,000 a week because that is dead money. But if there’s value in signing an £8m player we will look at it.'

Peter Lawwell (Dec 2012): 'We believe we are one of the top European clubs in everything we do. Celtic should be at this level, not just for the revenue but in terms of the profile and exposure for the club.
Every transfer window we get to we aim to be stronger at the other end. January is not the best time to be doing it, but our intention will be to come out of the window stronger, and if that means finding some value in the market then that is what we will do.'

Has Peter Lawwell kept those promises? How can he justify holding onto his job and can anyone honestly say that paying Peter Lawwell the equivalent salary of two EPL clubs CEOs combined is value for money for CFC and the support?}

02 Sep 2015 15:37:53
So now it's the fans that are now damned if we do, damned if we don't. To hurt the board, we will invariably hurt the team, and to back the team we will appear to condone the boards actions.
Are there any large shareholders/investors who are unhappy with the way things are going, or are they all pissing in the same pot?

{Ed007's Note - Chasa there's something far wrong when there is a Tory lord on the board at Celtic Park, A Conservative member of the House of Lords on the Celtic board - wtf is wrong with people allowing things like to happen, Tory Zionists running our club!
And let's not forget when we had another Lord of the Realm, a tyrannical war-monger who was dripping with the innocent blood of children as our chairman.
Our boardroom is over-run with political scumbags.}

02 Sep 2015 16:38:59
So I,ll take that as a yeh to the pissing in the same pot then. Is it time to call in Wolfie Smith from the Tooting peoples liberation front for some advice on revolution?

02 Sep 2015 04:45:15
"Mystery striker"? More like mystery shopper!

02 Sep 2015 00:11:00
Really what if griff gets injured last season gudetti and scep who now cifci joke play must go

02 Sep 2015 03:02:02
Whats the deadline for loans? Is it the same as transfers?

02 Sep 2015 04:11:13
Didnt know whether to agree or disagree,so I done both
Been on the sauce Paddy?