Celtic Banter Archive October 02 2018

02 Oct 2018 22:31:02
Ed just watched Man Utd game and noticed that none of the stadium front three or four rows were vacant as you always seem to get at Celtic park on European nights also noticed the same at the other grounds except Lyon do you know why this is. oldkilly.

{Ed007's Note - I'm pretty sure it's something to do with UEFA's rules regarding the distance between the pitch and fans mate.}

02 Oct 2018 22:45:33
Why was the lyon game closed doors.

{Ed007's Note - It was punishment for trouble during their Europa League tie against CSKA Moscow back in March and they were also handed a suspended ban for a second home game.

02 Oct 2018 23:08:58
Cheers ed. oldkilly.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

02 Oct 2018 23:43:14
Aye a read something about crowd trouble last year, but wasnt sure exactly what it was for. Must've been a bit of a serious one.

{Ed007's Note - https://youtu.be/XK7KPfT406Q

03 Oct 2018 09:55:36
Looks like a warzone. idiots.

03 Oct 2018 12:56:01
Hi

I thought UEFA could not do anything if the trouble was outside the stadium?

03 Oct 2018 13:54:59
I’ve sat at the front behind the goal at a CL qualifier and the extra advertising boards made it impossible to actually see the goal line.

03 Oct 2018 13:59:18
It depends how close it is to the stadium I think. That footage looks right outside the stadium to me.

03 Oct 2018 21:22:01
Kevbhoy . I think it is something to do with the height of the bottom one, two or three rows of the stand . UEFA advertising boards are far higher than our normal advertising and so we have to keep bottom rows empty so as to not block the views of fans .

It shows how poor the fare is at Old Trafford when TV viewers are watching the seating arrangements for fans and not follow the game.

02 Oct 2018 19:33:20
If Aberdeen win on Saturday and Sevco lose to Hearts on Sunday, which is more than possible, they'll drop to 7th place, 11 points behind the leaders after just 8 games. Is there a problem at the asbestos dome? Apparently not, according to the stenographers but I see Charlie Nicholas is now predicting BR will be gone by the end of January. This is propaganda on a level I have never seen before in Scottish football. I find it very irritating, particularly so, when it's being written by clowns like Nicholas who I once watched in the hoops. Unfortunately for him, he has trashed his own reputation and I have to say that I honestly wish the stupid wee tit had never set foot inside the stadium.

{Ed007's Note - There has been plenty of people on here saying the same thing about Rodgers since at least the season started if not before.}

02 Oct 2018 19:57:45
Agreed and I have to question their motives as well. I suspect there may be one or two on here who may be here only to peddle the same nonsense being trotted out in the press. There will be others who have been swayed by the volume of false news out there and so the lie grows momentum.

{Ed007's Note - The thing is people pick and choose what to believe, how many times has someone told you not to believe the papers but the next thing they're all over stories like this and panicking.
These stories all stemmed from a podcast where a group of Celtic fans threw some ideas of their own around while talking about all the RUMOURS surrounding the Club, a filthy begging tramp of a blogger then spun it into a blog as if it was factual - a blog said filthy begging tramp blogger was forced to remove.

Have you actually read what Nicholas said?

"I am not sure Brendan Rodgers will still be Celtic manager come the end of January as it looks as if the relationship between Brendan and Peter Lawwell is broken.
Major shareholder Dermot Desmond appears to have had to step in and have some strong words with them both. I disagree with Desmond on a lot of things but at least he has shown leadership qualities in trying to sort out any potential problems.
The claims doing the rounds are that Rodgers has been told to get the team back on track while the chief executive has been told to do everything he can to back his manager but if there has been a serious breakdown in their relationship then you can ever get things back to what it was before.
Rodgers and Lawwell might pose for the occasional photograph but it is clear that the relationship is no longer working.
Brendan seems to have lost some of his drive with everything that has happened since the summer."

Everything if and buts, potential problems and then he even contradicts himself at the end with:
.....if there has been a serious breakdown in their relationship then you can ever get things back to what it was before.
Rodgers and Lawwell might pose for the occasional photograph but it is clear that the relationship is no longer working."

It's either one or the other Charlie, if it's clear Rodgers and Lawwell's relationship is no longer working why precede it with if there has been a serious breakdown in their relationship? And I think he meant 'you can never get it back' not ever.
I also have no idea how BR seems to have lost some of his drive and how can he tell, he's always been a quite thinker and not the type to rant and rave.
You'd need to be some kind of idiot - and Charlie is that kind of idiot - to think Rodgers wasn't raging about the transfer window and as I said the other week there was problems on both sides with Rodgers pushing for unattainable targets (Cristiano Piccini) and Lawwell dropping the ball on the McGinn deal but it was agreed that there would be significant funds available in January..... so fingers crossed

All Nicholas has done really is give his opinion on the stories, just the same as everyone else except he gets paid to give his.}

02 Oct 2018 21:25:00
You correctly point out that BR generally goes about his business quietly, even when he’s commenting on emotive subjects. Whilst I think he wanted to make it clear that we have to be looking to invest further in the playing staff, I don’t think he was raging. The press are constantly at him asking questions that could provoke a headline worthy response and every now and then, he’ll say something that can be used to create the controversy they’re looking for. He could come out and shout down every bull story that appears in the press but if he did, he’d have no time left to manage the team. As for losing his drive, in any line of work you have a level of effort you can maintain at all times which is considerably less than 100%. Top performers will peak at certain key times when they either have to or when they think they can achieve maximum return for their effort but will also have to reduce their focus and effort at times because they’re human. I think BR has been at 100% for two years now and he’s tired. The players are as well and they’re just off the back of a double treble. The amount of physical and mental effort required to achieve something like that is collosal and if you add in a World Cup and a stupid international friendly trip to South America, you have a group who need to hit the reset button as BR once put it. They now find themselves back at work and they’ve played about 20 competitive games and it’s only the beginning of Oct. BR and the players are quite possibly mentally tired at this early stage in the season whichever means they may have to grind out a few results before they find a rhythm and start to destroy teams again. On top of all that stress, BR is having to deal with the stories being written by clowns like Nicholas and manage balloons like Dembele throwing the toys out the pram on transfer deadline day. He’s also managing the likes of N’Tcham French Eddie to make sure they’re still focused and of course Boyata who in fairness has responded very well. No matter what BR or the team do at the moment, the press will spin it against us as they are still behind the Stevie G revolution. I think that will change next Sunday and Celtic will maybe get some welcome respite from the propaganda machine.

{Ed007's Note - The more they bang on the sweeter the victory will be.}

02 Oct 2018 22:09:14
Sevco and honey g have had a worse start but you wouldn't know it . charlie seems to be stoking the fires a bit and then there was all that nonsense after the last derby game where but for the woodwork and McGregor and the ref it would have been a thrashing but Charlie was banging on that sevco had played well.

02 Oct 2018 22:46:05
He actually said that he was ‘seriously concerned about Rangers momentum’. The problem is that these bampots can print nonsense like this with impunity no matter how unfounded and innacurate it might be. In a couple of months when we’re hopefully back at the top, he’ll have changed his tune without any form of apology. I wouldn’t mind so much if it was even handed but the level of media bias at the moment is beyond a joke.

03 Oct 2018 07:52:47
I believe the takeover panel are back in court today to pursue dodgy Dave for contempt of court but I can’t find anything about it in the Scottish press. Funny that eh?

03 Oct 2018 13:13:17
Hi ed

I take it you are big JJ fan, and have your money paid to his account like clock work every month? ;)

{Ed007's Note - How did you break my code?}

02 Oct 2018 17:02:54
What a shambles! Spfl now considering semi at murryfield after all. Might get a decision before the game gets played.

02 Oct 2018 17:13:57
And we know who'll be heading there and it'll no be honey gs outfit. shambles.

02 Oct 2018 17:37:04
It is 100% Hearts v Celtic at Murrayfield. Celtic should kick up a huge stink about it. SPFL are not fit for purpose.

02 Oct 2018 17:47:59
Personally i would rather we played there, better atmosphere and less revenue for SPFL.

02 Oct 2018 18:37:38
Hearts have already played there several times, when Swinecastle was having work done last season and they have virtually no travelling so you could say they definitely have the advantage. Why not play both at Hamden a week apart?

02 Oct 2018 18:39:11
Thought the teams that came out the hat first would get precedence.

02 Oct 2018 19:04:25
on top of that, Celtic have been the holders for the last 2 years.
Should count as something but this is SPFL we are talking about.

02 Oct 2018 19:47:43
Honestly what’s the big deal where we play it’s a game of football

If it’s a Hampden then we have played there more than Hearts have at Murrayfield and I don’t hear any Hearts fans moaning.

02 Oct 2018 20:26:43
Well kev there's a huge difference playing in Glasgow to travelling through to Edinburgh especially an evening game. am talking from a fan point of view.

02 Oct 2018 20:27:24
I am honestly blown away by the paranoia that is displayed on this forum and when I read that the SPFL were reconsidering murrayfield, I knew it would be in full flow. Who cares where the game is played? It's still neutral with a 50/ 50 split. We have played home games there and so has hearts. Let's just get on with it. I for one look forward to a full murrayfield, the atmosphere will be amazing!

02 Oct 2018 20:56:01
@ onceaBhoy. Why are you being so defeatist we've played at Hampden 8 times in the last 2 years with no travel and you complain about us travelling once? We're the double treble winners with a budget far superior to every other team so let's embrace the challenge and stop winging about travel and paranoia and rise to the occassion or is that too much to expect?

02 Oct 2018 21:26:58
Jim 1972,
The CLUB budget might be superior but hat does not help the fans pay their way.
I have already said why it makes more sense for sevco to travel but common sense and SPFL OR SFA do not mix.

02 Oct 2018 22:25:13
Tinytim it makes 100% more sense to send us as then only 2 sets of fans travel (Celtic/ Aberdeen) if you send rangers then 3 sets of fans travel (rangers/ Aberdeen/ hearts) why do some always play victim/ paranoid card? Let's win in Edinburgh then win the cup like champions should rather than look for excuses.

03 Oct 2018 17:52:09
I would have thought Celtic supporters would want semi final at a venue and time to suit the team and supporters best . As League Cup holders and first team out of draw for Semi Final, I would have thought Celtic deserved choice of venue and time.

02 Oct 2018 13:31:40
Ed, any ideas as to why Celtic (or sevco) have not commented on the schedules for the LC semi-finals?
Just read that the Police are saying there was NO consultation with them before the decision was announced.

{Ed007's Note - I don't know mate, it's strange that they haven't.}

02 Oct 2018 16:49:58
A recipe for disaster I wouldn’t take a ticket for either the semi-final nor for the away game with reduced allocation which is virtually un-policeable. Absolute total madness.

02 Oct 2018 16:51:21
The SPFL had stated all 4 clubs and the Police where consulted and they all agreed on the fixtures. Aberdeen and Hearts are furious and the police are now saying it's moronic! The lot of them should resign as they're not fit for purpose. Their attitudes have changed quickly as they seen at first hand what 1 Rangers fan is capable of when losing and the thought of 30 thousand being unleashed on the public after losing to Aberdeen would be unthinkable.

02 Oct 2018 19:24:26
it also proves that the SPFL executive are liars.

02 Oct 2018 12:08:56
Just read on one of those click bait sites that McLeish is saying Griffiths blanked him regarding scotland. This particular site is also slating him calling him rude and arrogant.

Personally i don't think he is and would not be surprised if a big reason he has done this is in case he gets injured and leaves club with a bigger headache regarding our striker situation. He strikes me as type of player who puts club before country and that is one of the reasons i have a lot of respect for him.

{Ed007's Note - LG should tell him and Scotland to bolt.}

02 Oct 2018 13:59:09
Totally agree Ed; LG had to endure similarr crap with Strachan and as I would be delighted to see another Celt concentrate on club duty.
Not only because of our controversial relationship with the SFA, but for selfish reasons, because, we supply a team of players all to countries all over the globe and it's disruptive and an injury risk. Incidentally I think Cal- Mac and JF have had a real dip in form since the last International call-up as well.

{Ed007's Note - I'd prefer all of our players chucked playing international football.}

02 Oct 2018 15:45:35
I’ll be honest I think it’s unprofessional of McLeish to come out in the press and say this. And so what if he blanked your call. Grow up ya tool.

02 Oct 2018 15:59:36
Good shout ice man it should have been kept in house he's playing to the gallery and making himself look the good guy.

02 Oct 2018 21:58:16
How could anyone expect the EBT cheating Rangers1872 manager to change the habit of a lifetime and act professionally . All Celtic players and all Celtic fans should blank him . Celtic fans should boycott home Scottish games and let SFA know it is because they are employing the alcoholic with an EBT McLeish.

02 Oct 2018 22:42:09
Only reason he is Scotland manager is no club team of any decent standard will employ him. Shocking manager, ruthless if any club team does come in for him offering more doe he will be off.