Celtic Banter Archive January 02 2015

02 Jan 2015 22:47:38
See Chelsea are close to signing Andrej karmaric for 6 million, the guy who we could have got for half that! Bangin in the goals in Croatia! But we got scepovic! Another great piece of work by the management team and board! Just like johnny Russell Andrew Robertson Stevie May James McCarthy and the rest!

Well said Dangy . A true anti-celt .
Hopefully some day you will have a good word to say about our club.
Chelsea haven't always got it right in the transfer market .
I for one would prefer the Celtic model and that's why I am a Celtic supporter .

03 Jan 2015 01:55:04
Anti Celt! What section do u sit in at parkhead chriso2! Or is it chris Lawell! U prefer not spending a bit of money to add class to the team u say u support! U prefer the celtic way of not spending and getting knocked out of the champions league not once but twice in the same season! Behave urself! A knew u talked crap pal but now your just embarrassing urself! But at least u gave me a good chuckle :D

I tend to agree with other posters here Chris02, you don't like people having an opinion on Celtic unless it's glowing. Fans spend bucketloads of cash supporting Celtic, that gives us every right to moan when the product on the park is less than acceptable.
Get aff yer high horse mate.

Chris 0, the celtic model? have 6 strikers on the books who are between rubbish and average because the board won't outlay an extra 500000 on the better option in the first instance, we are still suffering from losing hooper who we never replaced with equal or better but cheaper

I can't understand why, if you want Celtic to improve and be the best they can be, you are classed as anti-Celtic, but if you accept poor performances, and dwindling crowds, you are a true supporter.
To me it's a bit like having kids at school, you encourage them to work hard and gain good exam results, because you do doesn't mean you hate them.

To me players, no matter who play better when they feel good and confident . There are many Celtic players who have their confidence knocked out of them within 15 mins of the start of the game . I can never understand how it's the loud mouths who can be heard half across the stadium who hurl the abuse . The rest of us, the vast majority couldn't be heard through a wet paper bag. These people who spend their hard earned money are very welcome at Celtic Park and there is a section for them, the away section . The same on Celtic Banter, if you want to abuse Celtic why not go on the Sevco section .
The idea behind a club having fans or supporters, is not just to take money off people but to have people who you can rely on to support and encourage .
We can't go on to the field to help but remember when Celtic beat Barcelona at Celtic Park that victory came about not only by Lennon and the players but also us, our fans played a big part . Have we done much this season in many games . Or has there been more hatred hurled from a small number of our own fans, than from the away fans .

Gerry
You could not make my point better, if you love your children you will encourage them to study well.
I am all for my fellow Celtic supporters to encourage the manager and players
( all players ) to work harder and to play better .

Gerry you won't have any problem with me about too much encouragement to players and manager.

02 Jan 2015 20:21:15
I got back today from a week on holiday and it's great to see all the diehards showing up on here after a poor result backing the manager and the team, even people who were on a break from posting felt the need to come on and show their "support". Every last one of you are a credit to the #celticfamily, it kinda gets you right here (heart) ;(

Glad you were happy with the December performances.

Which one is particular - St Mirren 4-1? Maybe the 1-0 Partick Thistle and Motherwell games?

Or the 7 goal thriller to Zagreb, plenty positives in that going into the Milan game?

We only won half the games we played in December and in November drew with Astra and were destroyed by Salzburg, October seen a home defeat to Hamilton Accies so unsure about these posters and Celtic family carry on?

Mrs E, you are without doubt the most negative poster on this page. Celtic WILL win the SPL and at the very least 1 cup. RD will get things right and take the club forward.

Mrs E .
You have become a glass half empty person since you have come back .
It's a bit person like, saying we deserved better .
Of course repeating our failings is certain to improve confidence .
That must be the thinking behind it .

I know, just as things are getting worse on here AH turns back up ;)

@JimTim Looks like I arrived just in time!

@MrsE I don't know what you're unsure about but it wouldn't be the first time you've not understood stuff on here so we'll just chalk this up as another one. Your post is just a random speel with nothing to do with my post. anyone would think I had touched a nerve :-p

Hope you had a good'n pal

AH it's Celtic's actual results and not random lol

02 Jan 2015 18:12:11
if I recall my post, which i'm sure ED will be able to look up, this was my point of view when RD began his tenure with us.
in that if we were 2 or 3 points ahead at xmas would we be happy.
Sorry but our standard of football has dropped along with the competition.
How long will it take for PL to make a decision as to whether Rd stays or goes. another few defeats/ draws.

not a panic button but a reality check that`s required.

He will see out the season or more, we have coped fine so far, let's see who we get in first it might change our luck and performances having said that we are still in all cups and be top if we get a result in our game in hand playing well below par, That's the mark of champions

Surely for our great club to contemplate getting rid of a manager who is still only building up his back up assistants, during his first season would be surely a sign of panic . I think we panicked once with the idiot Barnes.

02 Jan 2015 16:41:12
We have a very big squad and have preformed well.its about winning and I think we're in a good position.part or a quote from deila on sly sports! We've performed well and are in a good position! Is this guy for real! 2nd in the league in January, we could be 3rd by Sunday nite! This man has no idea what is expected from a celtic manager! I know standards have dropped in recent seasons but I never thought I'd hear our manager say we're in a good position when we're trailing in the league in January! It's actually scary to think he believes this! I sort of accepted it when we were 4th or 5th in August, new manager tryin to get his ideas across and all that other stuff! But to come out with this rubbish 6 months into the season is unbelievable!

Do you actually know the stats from previous 4 seasons at game 18 point?
Cause Deila is near enough on par with past few seasons apart from last season points wise. He is in all competitions and still in europe. Sorry how exactly does he not have an idea?

02 Jan 2015 17:32:44
Near enough on par! U think its acceptable in a league with no rangers hearts or hibs that our manager thinks it's we're in a good position when we could be 3rd by Sunday?? That's ok by you is it! It's ok that Hamilton accies have scored more goals than us half way into a season! Is this what our fans are accepting now!

DN30

It was last seasons team he inherited, he has lost as many points in less than half a season than we did in the whole of last season, I don't think you can excuse that stat. In my view the team is weaker now than this time last year although that is down to PL as well. After a wave of positivity I think it is clear RD is struggling to get performances from the team. Now without doubt that is his job, if we don't win the league I fully expect him to be sacked and make no mistake we now have serious competition

His full Quote is
On Celtic's league form, Deila gave a fair assessment of the Bhoys' season so far. 'good - but could be better.'

“It’s in our hands, ” the Celtic boss added. “If we win all our games we’ll be champions and that’s what we want to do.

“We’re in a good position – we could be better but, then again, we could be worse – so it’s in our hands, we’re in every competition and we’re looking forward to it.
So if you look at what he fully said I can't see a lot wrong with his assessment

02 Jan 2015 18:03:01
Seriously tonybhoy,u can't see a lot wrong with it! What parts been good? The defeats by accies Inverness and Dundee utd or the draws with Dundee Motherwell and not forgetting the leagues bottom team Ross county! Is it maybe the fact we've won one league game by more than one goal once since October! Not a lot wrong with that but I guess.

Dangy1888

Are you not aware that shaky start at start of season was due to serious injury problems reason for dropping 5 points in games inverness and dundee?
Didnt think so!

Groutdoc regards points and last seasons squad, see if Deila didn't have key injury problems at start of season those 5 points dropped would of been in the bag, but people would still find something to fault him.

I fully agree with you if he doesn't win the league he has to go but people don't want to give him the chance. He has had time to assess squad and I reckon he knows who he wants in this month

The one consolation is that Celtic are still involved in four tournaments; however this could all change very easily indeed after a couple of games in January and then alarm bells will sound - all too late for tears.
The postponed game at Firhill was ridiculous in this day and age and the fact they had a long injury list makes it very convenient for Thistle, but it has put pressure on us for the first time since 2011/12 and we are not playing anywhere near our potential. Supporters are clearly not as confident or comfortable as we should be given the current situation.

The one consolation is that Celtic are still involved in four tournaments; however this could all change very easily indeed after a couple of games in January and then alarm bells will sound - all too late for tears.
The postponed game at Firhill was ridiculous in this day and age and the fact they had a long injury list makes it very convenient for Thistle, but it has put pressure on us for the first time since 2011/12 and we are not playing anywhere near our potential. Supporters are clearly not as confident or comfortable as we should be given the current situation.

DN30's firts reply sums it up. There is an overreaction currently happening because clearly people do not like RD.

This season has not been great but it has not been worse than previous ones. Comparing this season to last is unfair. A new manager should be given time, especially when he is changing a lot at the club.

If we win the league by 1 point or 25 it does not matter. we are only not top due to postponed games. if the position does not change in a few months then we should start to be concerned

Not saying its good or grate but I think you are forgetting we do have a game in hand .
And I would still give him the year I have seen in some games the progression We are still in 4 competitions Better than we have been in resent years and I think in this window we will see HIS players coming in But if we lose the league he should go

DN30

I want Celtic to win the league as much as anyone and really hope it happens. I have a different view about the start of the season. I think the points at Dundee and particularly Inverness were thrown away by team selections which made no sense and bordered on arrogance. However if RD has learned like other managers have had to that Celtic can't afford to leave out (rest) one or two of our best players then I can accept it. My worry at present is whether we can find the consistency again to cope with a real challenge. I hope Scott brown remains fit and healthy I think if we had to do without him we would be in dire straits

02 Jan 2015 20:23:50
Dn30 your havin a laugh aren't u! Am I aware that serious injury was the reason we dropped 5 points at the start of the season! Haha,aye rite then! What's the exuse for the past 2 league games then? What major injuries or other exuses was the reason for that? Wake up mate! Am not on here sayin RD Isn't a good guywith good intentions,but the cold hard facts are the results don't match his assesment that we've been good and in a good position! I'm not askin for him to be sacked,I just want him to wake up and realise this is celtic and glasgow he's in! I in all honestly still don't think he grasps what the celtic job means! And another thing,this going away to play meaningless games in the sun instead of concentratin on puttin things rite in the league is Shockin! No matter how much money(that won't get spent on the team) theyr getting payed for it!

Dangy1888 ah awrite then. so brown, lustig, matthews and forrest were not out injured then? Past 2 league games- Dundee United did you watch game? i'm taking it that you never caused you would know scepovic had goal wrongly disallowed and a penalty clear cut not given. Bad refereeing gave them a win. Ross County kinda hard to play football when your playing against 10 defenders.

Everyone knows we have been scrappy at times but end of day, we have been like this for years! Its too much of a coincidence how with a faction this seems to be an issue now.

02 Jan 2015 21:05:13
Dangy you said about a league without rangers, hearts and hibs but wtf have hearts and hibs ever done in the premier league? when have they ever been near the top or challenged for the league apart from hearts the 1st season of ramanov so that makes no sense. If you don't like deila that's fair enough mate that's your opinion but doesn't mean you need start pish wth fans who actuallly are willing 2 give him time. If you call being in every competition poor then he's got no chance with they kinda views from fans. Were you saying this stuff last season when we were embarrassed in europe and out both domestic cups at home with lennon? or did the going the whole season unbeaten pish blind your eyes about how shite we were. Aye everyone can agree we shouldn't be 2nd in the league at the half way point but i'v got absoutely no worries about us winning the league. The guy needs money 2 spend and the shite players moved on before we can see what he's really all about. Most of our bad results this season in the league has came down 2 individual errors which tbf the manager can do nothing about you can do as much work as possible in training but when a player makes a mistake then the manager can't be blamed for that. He's hardly gong 2 come out in public and say we're shite he would get slaughtered so he says we have been doing good but could do better and yet still get's slaughtered so what fucking chance has the guy got

Groutdoc

Celtic will win league. Problem we have got moment is there are far too many players at club, who just don't cut the grade and we are getting by.

I believe new faces brought in this window will give team lift they need. Problem is, we need a few- LW, RW, CM, CB to name a few

Am sorry guys to the PRO RD's where does it come from? please enlighten me? This insatiable, unquenchable belief that all is well

He is as far as I can see it came from a league little or no better than the irish one, He is the worst paid Celtic Manager in circa the last 20 years, He is the ONLY manager in the last 20 years circa (wim jansen / murdo McLeod ) that had his ASST CHOSEN for him!, but I can see why he accepted this because HE was meant to be the ASST manager ffs! and was being forced upon NL, and potentially RK, HL and the rest

There is NEVER been a manager I know from that league that has "made the grade" a yardstick to measure against

A cannot see anyone on here say SACK HIM! but ffs folks change the format why does he constantly switch from this system, his system to a 4-4-2 to get the result needed?

Does anyone honestly believe that he has shown enough to be "let loose" on the purse strings?

Week in Week out from the start his no answer to this defensive / bus parking backwater of Scottish Football when it is going wrong & IT IS going wrong!

02 Jan 2015 22:22:47
Haha dn30! Bad refereeing cost us against Dundee utd! Nuthin to do with deila constantly puttin AMBROSE in defence when the guys an absolute joke of a defender! And correct me if I'm wrong but but a large percentage of the teams in the scottish league come to parkhead and stick 10 men behind the ball and always have! It's our job to break them down! Maybe a good start would be puttin 2 men up front to give us half a chance! And don't give all this players injured pish! We've had a near enough full squad the past 2 games and dropped 5 points! But it's the refs fault int it! And gunniebhoy I'm not askin him to come out and slaughter the players!! Whit post did I ever say that? Just don't come out and sayin we're doing well when we're clearly not! And this don't come on here and start pish with people wantin to give him time! Maybe if people didn't talk pish about referees and deflected goals or injuries I wouldn't need to say anythin! And your rite about him getting money,but it ain't going to happen! Just don't give your once a players out on the park what can a manager do if he makes mistakes pish! Especially when it's the same player makin the mistakes every time he's on the pitch!

Hope you are right DN30 we really need to sign some players but RD was talking about the primary need of keeping the players we have, I hope that is not on PL's orders to downplay expectation. We still need a striker, I think I have seen VVD being pushed up to centre forward five times already this season to try and salvage something from games

Just because we are not anti RD does not make us blindly pro. I am only giving him the same chnace I gave lennon and strachan, which a lot are not. I fail to see what his pay packet has to do with anything?

Ambrose is playing because we have no better option. blaming the defeats solely on him seems unfair to me. he is an easy fall guy who hopefully will be pushed out the team because we have better options, not just because the fans find it easy to boo him.

Dangy i'm not AMBROSE biggest fan either. He is a major problem that needs addressed but at the moment who else have we got when a CB is injured? Only reason he has been getting a game is due to this fact that there is no one else at moment.

You have contradicted yourself going on about AMBROSE then going on about "injured pi$h" with regards Dundee United game! Its well known Referee had a howler that game, he has even admitted it himself! Think before you speak

Dangly if you have nothing better to post than ridiculing Deila for picking the player he sees everyday at training .

It's very simple to slag Ambrose, every person seems to do it despite the fact that over the seasons he has been with us, despite a few careless slips up, most of them he rescued, he has been one of our best performers . I have an idea why some keep up the un- necessary ridiculing, but I keep my thoughts to myself, sufficient to say I don't think that everyone that criticise him do for football reasons

Chris 02 you have to stop with this "anti - celtic" crap that anyone that does not conform or subscribe is trying to the boot in or "deflect" away from the point in hand (you specialist subject is deflections isn't it not?) & please if you are going to countermand a point have the decency to get there name right

Point 19 a think his pay packet has everything to do with it surely it dictates the calibre of individual " you get what you pay for but in terms of giving him the same chance a admire that atvb jb7

The woodwork was the fault for the dropped points against Utd :) The officials didn't help though. RD picks the best from what he has he will get all the critisism but at the end of the day the players have to put the ball in the net and they've been very wasteful. It would be nice to play 2 up front now and again to surprise the opposition as they are all drilled into countering this 4-2-3-1 its become that predictable even Ross County can defend against it

Jamie bhoy
If you are going to quote me a about please quote properly . I had nothing to do with 19.

Who gives you the right to tell me what I can or cannot post .
I assume you are not a moderator or hold any position .

LMAO Is that you "deflecting" away again Chris 02 point 19 a was covering WITHIN your point

Read above there a load of people saying stop the "anti" stuff

But can I ask you directly see the 02 in your name is it your age or your IQ level?

Jamibhoy Get off your high horse . Stop been anti Norway and the Norwegian league, how dare you point out such an unsubstanial claim . To the best of my knowledge the Norwegian football authorities have done their utmost to have a level playing field for all. There has been no special hand shakes between the captain of one team and the officials . The Authorites in Norway have neither encourage, allowed or turn a blind eye, or held bias investigations into the actions of one club . Any decent manager would prefer to have a Norwegian team on his CV than from our corrupt league .
I am sure you are aware of the money the IFA give to Linfield annually locked into a 100 year deal.

I notice you don't like me calling people who ridicule, abuse and condemn Celtic employees as "anti Celts or Celtic hating " . That's fine I have no problem calling them something else if you can give me, what I agree as more appropiate names .

PMSL so now you have "deflected" into all things Nordic are you asking to be taken serious via that paranoid ramble? how is it unsubstantiated? they are what they are! back your countermand up with stats ffs!

Jamiebhoy have you a secret crush on me, as you feel the need to reply to all my posts . I am flattered that you think so much of me to keep up the constant replying . Just to answer a query its a hell of a longtime since I was two year old . My I Q has never been bought to attention, probably because it was deemed to be normal and not necessary of exact reading .
Just because your reading is 2 Jamie doesn't mean the rest of us need to have ours tested correctly.

Rest assured there is no crush on you! If you bothered to read my posts you would my crush is on Kate Abdo & then Hayley McQueen

I can sleep easier at night after hearing that .

Maybe but when a counter your points & you go waiver, ramble or go off point, do you have a sleepless night because am enjoying putting you down lol

02 Jan 2015 10:31:53
Just wanted to wish ED007/ED001, Mrs E, Green Jhedi. Wee Pat and all the regulars on here a Happy New Year as well as a more healthy one. Heard we are signing Bale, Messi and Ronaldo as Lawwell is targeting the Sevco game lol

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, happy new year to you all too and I am sure Ed007 would like me to pass on his best wishes too.}

Happy New Year Tim, hope you enjoy better health in 2015

The same to you Mrs E .

On this Saturday afternoon 3rd of January, I am sitting here wondering why Deila was to blame for the rain on Wed. night and Thursday morning in Partick . Before the game was called off and the Dons benefitted by playing an extra game and went a point head . Deila had his knockers but they were reasonably subdued but just as the rain flooded Fir Hill, the angry mobs have flooded Celtic Banter and other Celtic forums and the ex- Celts filled their pockets . Why now? Deila and Celtic have done nothing wrong this year, sold no players, conceded no goals, yet since Thursday evening he has been abused, condemned and ridiculed .

02 Jan 2015 07:15:47
Ed001, thoughts on the Gerrard news?

I get a bit sentimental but know its the right time and Henderson for me to replace him as Captain.

Its just the contribution over the years and how you replace that?

Fantastic player for me and I just don't see another English player coming through just now who will the same level as Stevie was.

{Ed001's Note - Rossiter is capable of being better, as he has better tactical discipline, he just needs to get the chances.

As for Gerrard, yes he was great when given freedom to do what he wants, but he was awful in the role Rodgers has been trying to shoehorn him into. He is nothing like the force he once was and in Liverpool's heyday would have been gone years ago. I am not big on sentimentality, it does nothing but hold you back and stop you moving forward. Paisley would have sold Gerrard years ago, he has been fading and that was never allowed under Bob Paisley.

I don't see an issue with replacing the Gerrard that is currently there, he is having a terrible season, was poor last season, and it is this Gerrard that will be being replaced, not the highlight reel of people's memories. I don't know why people are that bothered, personally, I was more bothered about Xabi Alonso going, twice the player and a much better person.

I just remember those days when he had his best season for the club playing on the right, so decided to dictate to the club where he would be played, as he didn't want to play there any more. That kind of attitude should never have been tolerated. He had far too much power around the club, involving himself in signings and club politics, he has held the club back in recent years. It is time he went so he can be remembered for what he did on the pitch, not for his greedy expectations of being the highest paid player, despite being one of the weak links on the pitch.

I know that is not a popular view, but most people only know what they are presented in the media, not the person in real life. It is better when you don't know your heroes, very few turn out to meet expectations.}

When I say sentimental, I mean in footballing terms Ed. My real life heroes have and always will be folk I know and have met, my Mum and Dad, Granny.

I can't judge folk I haven't met and haven't been involved in their personal life.

Hope this makes sense.

The Stevie G of today is replacable but his contribution over the years, not so much.

{Ed001's Note - but his contribution over the years is nothing compared to true greats like Dalglish. There is a reason Liverpool haven't been up there in Gerrard's time, and he is a big part of it. They look to him to produce far too much, expecting moments of magic instead of working as a team like they used to. Football is a team game, Gerrard was never a team player. Liverpool have always looked better when he has been out, too much reliance was always placed on his shoulders. Now they can have a captain who actually does a captain's job on the pitch.}

Dalglish was an exceptional player, one of the best but also played in great teams with great Managers - Stein and Paisley. He was one of the best

Suppose time will tell where Liverpool go from here.

{Ed001's Note - they were going downhill with Gerrard in the side, so it had to happen sooner rather than later. You can't keep carrying a player with his wages and expect to challenge for titles in a competitive league. He can now go to the MLS, pick up his bumper pay day and be able to stroll around until he is ready to retire, with more than likely a couple of league titles under his belt there.}

Just be careful what you wish for Ed, seen it to many times where we think we'll be better off without a Manager or Player only for the Club to go into freefall and we find out the hard way what their contribution actually was.

Nothing lasts forever though and Liverpool will move on.

{Ed001's Note - I don't wish for anything to do with Gerrard. It is Carragher who bled for the club, the one we miss.}

Jamie's one of my faves and love him as a pundit!

{Ed001's Note - he is a great lad Carra, he was the organiser every team needs.}

Where does all this talk about Liverpool and Stevie G . find its way to a Celtic Banter thread .
I hope no one thinks he could be of any benefit to Celtic next season as a player
We went that road before with 'pool players at the end of their careers .
The one League for ex Epl players is across the water in America, they can play in that fun big bucks league for years .

I wrote it Chris and Ed001 answered, that's the how it found its way on here.

I'm sure nobody thinks our midfield would benefit from a player like Stevie, we are fine with all our options.

@Chris02 I've sent in posts about the Hoops that don't get posted, maybe we should all start talking about epl teams :/

You are not the only one, I think Mrs E thinks that Stevie G been a great man and take a 50% pay cut or whatever and play for us for about £50k per week would help our midfield . Maybe
Mrs E doesn't remember two other legendary Liverpool players joining us and they could both easily be placed on the worse ever Celtic 11 signings .
Stevie could have done a good job for us a couple of years ago, but he wouldn't have been interested . I loathe to condemn any good footballer but in season 2015/2016 please God not another Epl has been . If we are stupid enough to sign the like of him, I will become like the multitude and point out his weaknesses on a daily basis 🐯

Mrs E . What has happened, you used to be a reasonable intelligent poster, but God you have changed, and not for the better.
Will Mrs E the original please come back

Ed001 from now on I'll make sure I ask any Liverpool questions on the Liverpool page.

Seems a bit of an issue for some of the big girls on here but Liverpool and Stevie does that to some fans. Cheers

{Ed001's Note - it is amazing but people like to whine about anything.....}

At last you are correct, I was wondering if I would have to go to a bloody Epl team, to publish something about Celtic .
Since you are now intelligent enough to post Liverpool posts on the Liverpool thread, I suppose we can have Celtic posts on the Celtic thread . It's amazing how we can all learn off each other.

02 Jan 2015 00:58:52
I know people will think I'm mad and it is
a long shot by far and looks certain for mls
but what about celtic Offering Stevie G a deal he will win
A leagues medal that he wants so much
And let's be honest celtic have had a track
Record of offering premiership legends
Retirement home

{Ed007's Note - Well hopefully we'll be looking for a new club ar5ehole if Griffiths leaves and he fits the bill there and it's a good job Commons is leaving as well, I just can't see him and Stevie Me as team-mates!
A league medal he wants so much ; ( ; ( (rofl)
I'd rather we signed Stevie Fulton!!}

Ed I heard those gerrard/commons rumours also a few yrs back, didn't know if they were true or not. till now :). also that's a good poll, whos the biggest ar5eh0le we could sign, for me jamie hammill, never liked that guy.