Celtic Banter Archive September 29 2015

29 Sep 2015 23:23:29
This EPL really is a shameful organisation .No league in the world can match the money thrown at it, but the standard is mediocre at best. The results of English clubs in the CL for the last 2 or 3 seasons are pitiful.Teams full of players on £100,000 plus a week losing to Greek, Portuguese and Swiss clubs who's whole teams wage won't be anywhere near that. If only they realised their glitzy Sly Sports production of the EPL is destroying the standard of their game.

30 Sep 2015 09:55:10
Teams whose whole teams wage won't be anywhere near that? I agree with your point but if you're trying to suggest that teams like Olympiakos and Porto aren't paying bumper wages then you're sorely mistaken.

30 Sep 2015 18:39:02
Kevbhoy I think you would be surprised at the wages of the clubs you mention infact Celtic possibly had as high a wage bill up until the last couple of seasons as Olympiakos and Porto

30 Sep 2015 21:42:58
The Premier League in England is well overrated. It's exciting to watch, but there is a lot of very average players. Also I think the panelists, and watching/listening to the managers is sometimes better than the games. Looking at the Burnley team from last year, that nearly stayed up, I think the only players I would have taken out their whole squad, even on free transfers would have been Ings, Heaton, Trippier and maybe Shackell. Even look at the Norwich team, West Brom, Stoke etc, they have a few good players, and the rest are average for me. You also have Brighton and Middlesbrough running away with the Championship, - who would you want from their teams, not many, Kayal? He's a hero down there already!

30 Sep 2015 22:40:07
Kayal is a better player than Biton or johannson. Sound judgment from our manager again.

01 Oct 2015 08:19:43
You can be the best player in the world, if you're never fit then what's the point. His contract was going to expire also a few months later, Lawwell made it clear he wasn't getting a new one, so took a small fee. How is that Ronny's fault?He hardly played for the year and a half before Lennon left. For all those reasons, and possibly more, only Brighton wanted him. So for you to come out now, after the first injury free period he has had in years, and with the benefit of hindsight is pretty pathetic! If it was the Kayal of 4 years ago I would have agreed with you, anyway I quite like Biton and if he keeps improving, gets a little stronger, more dynamic, he could be very very good!

29 Sep 2015 19:06:28
ED, what's the script with Carlton Cole then? Are we getting him or what? After watching that game on Saturday it's clear we need a different option up front! Still pisses me off we never brought a striker in another striker in the window! And watching ciftci just confirms this! Another dud striker to add to the ever growing list! But I knew that before he even came!

Never rated the guy and never will! This must be the weakest strike force I've ever seen in my time as a Celtic fan! We've always had good strikers in our team,even when we were struggling! I like griifiths and he always puts a shift in,but for me it shows how far our standards have dropped when we're pining our hopes on him!

{Ed007's Note - I think Cole is just weighing up all his offers, there's also interest from the USA and Qatar.}

29 Sep 2015 23:23:14
Cheers mate! Can't see him coming if I'm being honest! He'll be off to the Middle East to make big bucks! Still think he could have done a job to!

30 Sep 2015 13:47:18
It is saying he is back for second session this week, so must still be in the running

29 Sep 2015 16:18:35
Think LG got off lightly & happy at that (y)

{Ed007's Note - The Unseen Fenian Hand strikes again... 8=)

29 Sep 2015 16:25:59
LOL Ed a thought 4 a think you feared the worst given he had previous? will take 2 all day long mate (y)

{Ed007's Note - And considering the ban Tonev got.}

29 Sep 2015 16:43:01
Totally agree factor in Tonev's did not have any evidence to back it up makes it even more bizarre buddy , still think we needed to catch that break given our options up front (y)

29 Sep 2015 22:43:20
is it not do to with pedantics,calling Scatchel a refugee,maybe was inacurate but don't see how it was racsist,as Griffiths and scatchel are the same race

29 Sep 2015 09:01:31
Hold your horses Desmond is a multi billionaire he makes well more than 25 thousand a day yet he treats celtic like rubbish he's well able to put his hand in his pocket n pay 45 mill for a stupid yacht out in cannes that he might use once a year but God forbid some decent strikers say they want so n so a week forget about it he's no good for celtic

29 Sep 2015 11:44:39
Only one problem with your thinking on Dermot Desmond , he is not the owner of Celtic . He cannot just put money into Celtic without consequences . F McCann set up Celtic that we would never again be owned by one man or family . We want to keep that .

{Ed007's Note - That's just twaddle Chris, does Dave King own TRIFC outright, did Charles Green own them outright yet everyone has questioned their investment? The Glazers don't own Man Utd, Perez doesn't own Real Madrid, the Glazers are the only people who own more than 10% of Man Utd.
There's nothing stopping DD or any board member putting money into the club except their own lack of willingness to do it. If you bought a season ticket this year or even pay £1 to the Celtic Pools you've put more money into the club than DD has in the last FIVE years.}

29 Sep 2015 12:37:58
Ed,is this Really True? Shocking figures you just gave,what a pity if you are correct

{Ed007's Note - Of course it's true, do you think he needs to pay for any tickets etc or even f? There's no evidence of any investment from the board, it's our ST money they're using not theirs.
In 1999 DD who already owned 13.8% of the club upped that by 6% to 19.8% at a cost of circa £1.65 million when Fergus McCann left.
Since then he has drawn money from his Preference Shares dividend every year without putting anything at all back in save putting money towards short term deals like both the Keanes' wages etc.
At other clubs a lot of directors don't take any money out of the club so that it can be reinvested, then you look at our board with their Preference Share dividends, Pedro with his shares and his CEO salary and bonuses (no CL and our CEO is getting bonuses!) totalling over £1m per annum and it's all money going out the door to reward their failure.
I'd hate to think that the Preference Share dividends are at such a level that everyone on the board is happy enough with it so they don't feel the need to invest in the team, Pedro's bonuses can't go any higher so why risk any more money when there's not much to be made for yourself?
In the financial year 2013-14 Peter Lawwell was awarded a £400,000 bonus on top of his £525,000 salary, "benefits in kind" of £17,312 and pension contributions of £57,108. The club's remuneration committee 'decided to make an additional bonus' to Lawwell for meeting the 'objectives set for him.'
Lawwell is also 'entitled to a maximum payment under the company's bonus scheme of 60%'. as well as an expenses account, his chauffeur driven car and I'm sure he also gets a housing allowance (money to pay mortgage etc).
CFC is THE only club I know of where the CEO is the highest paid employee at the club.
I've said it before a million times, CFC like to act like they are a big club in the media etc yet they operate with a small club mentality.}

29 Sep 2015 13:37:40
NO investment by the board. And they refuse to act like a CL club, whilst claiming to still be one! Sack the board. I'm telling you for shiz, Sandy Lane's bum baths have seen more attention than our team.

29 Sep 2015 22:19:59
Would there not have to be another shares issue before anyone can invest?

{Ed007's Note - No.}