Celtic Banter Archive May 29 2018

29 May 2018 16:38:12
McGinn would be a good signing as a squad player. Brown, eboue, ntcham, rogic, armstrong etc are all miles ahead imo.

{Ed007's Note - McGinn's a totally different type of player to Brown, Eboue Kouassi Ntcham and Rogic though Brendan. If Armstrong leaves all we have to play the box-to-box roles beside Brown is Ntcham so what happens if he gets an injury/suspension or needs a rest?}

29 May 2018 16:54:21
I agree, he is a totally different kind of player, but if you make the ridiculous statement that those players are miles ahead of McGinn, I would have to say McGinn is miles ahead of those players, even Brown, .

29 May 2018 17:00:42
I don't see what all the fuss is about Mcginn either to be honest. Really can't see where he fits I unless we get loads of injuries.
At the moment my starting midfield would be
Sinclair
McGregor
Ntcham
Brown
Forrest.

{Ed007's Note - If McGinn's signed he won't be playing anywhere the AM 3 though. What do we do if Armstrong leaves and Ntcham gets injured, who plays beside Brown? Kouassi is like Brown and will play as a CDM, Rodgers isn't going to play with 2 CDMs in the Scottish league.}

29 May 2018 17:18:22
I get your point ED, And this is solely just my opinion, But McGinn is SPFL quality at best JUST NOW, he probably will develop into a good player, hence why i think he'd be a squad player, almost like Jack Hendry. If we want to compete in the UCL and UEL then i'd be wanting a higher calibre of player than McGinn, i mind him scoring two good goals against us at CP, But, if we had a better keeper then they shots would have been saved, imo. I would like McGinn to join, as he is good and would ultimatley strengthen the squad, but at UCL level, its a no from me.

{Ed007's Note - First and foremost we need a team that's going to keep us dominating Scottish football, nobody's saying that McGinn will help us in Europe right away but he'll help us keep our stranglehold in Scotland. McGinn bossed our midfield in 3 out of the 4 games I watched (2 of them for sure) and done a hell of a lot more than just score 2 goals against us.}

29 May 2018 17:18:37
forrest? did you not watch the second half of the season? he's poor.

29 May 2018 17:47:53
john is a grafter who will do a lot of the dirty work required in the midfield, i think he would do a job for us, and im not just saying that because im a family friend.

29 May 2018 17:56:49
I'm ambivalent about this one, but I will say this: judging McGinn as he is now would be like judging broony while he was at the hibs. I'd be happy to get him on board and see what he makes of being a celt. I think he could definitely step up.

{Ed007's Note - McGinn's a better player than Brown was at that age. Remember since he signed Brown split the fans and under Lennon and Ronny there were plenty of people that said Brown was finished and/or wasn't good enough. Brown's 33 next month and it's a shame it's only under Rodgers the past couple of years we've seen what he was capable of.}

29 May 2018 18:23:34
Those that said Brown wasn’t good enough or was finished have been shown to have known feck all.

I remember reading comments of some and dismissing every other post they wrote as not worth the bother as they clearly didn’t have a fecking clue.

{Ed007's Note - The hate for Broony was strong for a long while on here, MP.}

29 May 2018 19:42:46
Brown and Mcgregor have improved beyond recognition this season, if we get the forwards flying again we will be some team again next season.

29 May 2018 19:57:11
Ed Scott Brown was a totally different player at Hibs than he is today (he was more forward thinking) , like McGinn he was the top prospect in the country at that time, Scott Brown at this moment in time is the vital cog in Celtic’s midfield, McGinn has a long way to go to be compared to Brown and is behind Rogic, Ntcham, Armstrong and McGregor in terms of big game experience, but he would be a good signing who like Christie and Kouassi would need to hit the ground running if he comes to us .

{Ed007's Note - So we're only signing players that have got "big game experience" now are we, and what big game experience did any of those players you mention have before we signed them? McGinn has shone out against our midfield so that proves he's more than capable of playing domestically for us, our midfield struggled to lay a glove on him most of the season.
People seem to struggle to understand that players play in different positions and have different jobs to do on the park, why the hell would Ryan Christie have any effect on what McGinn does when they're totally different players and play in different positions? Player like Rogic, McGegor and Christie are AMs, Brown and Kouassi are DMs and Ntcham, Armstrong and McGinn play the box-to-box role getting up and down the park.
You wouldn't compare Sinclair to Lustig so why do it with other players.
I would say Aiden McGeady, Shaun Maloney and even Derek Riordan were all better prospects than Brown was when he was at Hibs and that's just off the top of my head.}

29 May 2018 21:00:20
Is there any update on French Eddie? Hearing there is any other bidder or is that just rubbish talk.

{Ed007's Note - Any club, mystery or otherwise, can not approach a player without the permission of his parent club, that's tapping up.}

29 May 2018 21:27:32
McGinn has great potential for us. He's a stand out at hibs, looked great playing against us and in my opinion would be a great addition to the club.
Players who play a certain way at other clubs don't always employ the same skill set at Celtic park.
Remember when Paul Hartley signed? He was a great attacking midfielder but never played the same role for us, my point is talent is talent and it's up to the manager to get the best out of the players in the formation he wants his team to play in.

For the record I thought Scott brown best games were behind him, I never foresaw the impact Brendan would have on his game. The last couple of seasons have been amazing to see the best of Scott brown and the envy that spills out of the rest of Scotland is plain to see. No one (maybe McGinn! ) has layer a glove on him.
More of the same please.

Who would everyone prefer Armstrong or McGinn?

29 May 2018 23:19:07
Mcginn for me, at least his heart would be with us. Brendan will make him an even better player than he has been against us. Armstrong is a great player but it's clear his heart isn't in it with us or he'd have signed a longer deal.

29 May 2018 23:32:59
I would like to see mcginn come in. Let BR work his magic and turn him into the player everyone is saying we need. Raw scottish talent that can be fine tuned in the right hands.

29 May 2018 23:52:15
At the end of the day we’re going to have to replace Armstrong and McGinn is an ideal caalready have Ntcham etc. he’ll be another one to go for big money soon as he’s a total class act so we could easily have a McGinn and Brown CM pairing for 10IAR.

29 May 2018 23:57:26
Aindoh, are you starting the silly season with your post . I don't know whether McGinn is better or worse than all the players listed . Probably better at some aspects of play and maybe not as good as others . Whether I am at the Celtic v Hibs match or watching it on TV or watching Hibs playing another team, I cannot concentrate fully on McGinn all the time and hence can't make a judgement . What media do you follow Mc Ginn to rate him so highly.

30 May 2018 00:07:17
Our biggest problem domestically in the season just past, was too many players asked to play too many games . This may have contributed to some of our long injury list . McGinn would be a good signing to play in the games after Europe for example.

30 May 2018 00:44:23
no reason we can't have both island, there's a lot of games.

30 May 2018 07:52:16
Ed, in your opinion, do you think we'll sign McGinn this Summer? If you had to say yes or no how would you respond? HH.

{Ed007's Note - Yes.}

30 May 2018 22:36:50
Old man Chris I was trying to emphasise, in my own inept way, the ridiculousness of Brendan's post, when he said, McGinn was behind all the players mentioned, I think if we sign him, he will show, in noway is he behind any member of Celtics midfield, it just grates with me when people come out with ridiculous statements like that.

29 May 2018 12:23:03
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 29th May 2018

29 May 2018 06:10:49
McGinn being heavily linked for a move to us. what's your thoughts? Personally, I can't see where he would fit in at the moment so is he willing to sit on the bench until he gets his chance? I don't think he would be too happy with that because there is no doubt he's a player who wants to play.
So, it's a no from me with the money better spent elsewhere.

29 May 2018 07:30:13
Iv not seen much of him a keep hearing he’s broonies natural successor but does he get about the pitch making tackles? Can he drive a team on? Can’t make a call as I haven’t seen much of him but Broonies boots will be massive to fill.

29 May 2018 08:24:42
I don't watch Hibs so i will base my opinion on his performances against Celtic and performances for Scotland, particularly against Holland. Yes i think he is good enough to play at CP. Too many comparisons with S Brown, let's compare them when S Brown was McGinns age that would be fairer. S Brown has taken years to become the player and legend he is now. McGinn would be a welcome addition imo and would become an even better player coached by BR and training and playing alongside our squad.

29 May 2018 08:34:20
I remember Broonie's early appearances with us and he was nowhere near the fine player and great leader he is today; so BR must see enough potential to work on - and competing/ playing with better players will only bring out the best in him sooner or later.

29 May 2018 09:00:48
Remember when Brown first arrived he had a lot of personal problems with his sisters illness to deal with aswell as a big move.

29 May 2018 09:07:59
Scott brown will end his career With us and he will have to be replaced by someone at some point.
I reckon KT would be the natural successor as captain, as for the midfield position it’s not a bad shout looking at McGinnis, a Scottish born, Celtic supporting, hard working player. Ideally someone who comes in will the potential / talent and becomes a mainstay of the team for years.

Realistically it’s big boots to fill and I doubt we will get it right first time.
Am I right in saying broony will be the longest serving captain / midfielder since the maestro?

29 May 2018 09:49:56
I just don't see him playing the role Brown does. If Armstrong leaves, I'd take McGinn. If not, then either McGinn or Armstrong would be getting waisted so I'd lean towards not bothering.

29 May 2018 10:17:05
McGinn seems more of a box to box midfielder like Ntcham and Armstrong. If we sign McGinn does that mean we'll sell Armstrong? Surely Bitton has got to be sold too. But where does this leave Kouassi as BR has been saying he sees him as Browns natural successor.

29 May 2018 11:17:36
Exactly Bravetart. McGinn doesn't protect the back line and break up play the way Broony does. He's box to box and more of a creative influence in the attacking third.

29 May 2018 11:42:39
No brainer for me been saying for ages we need to sign this bhoy think eds been banging the drum as well.

{Ed007's Note - McGinn's the only player in Scotland that I would sign and he's the ideal replacement for Armstrong if he leaves.}

29 May 2018 14:04:46
If Armstrong was to leave we could have Brown, Ntcham, McGregor, Kouassi, and McGinn fighting for the central spots, with McGregor able to play elsewhere i'd be more than happy with that considering the amount of games we will have to play again, not forgetting possible injuries throughout season. I think McGinn coming in will depend on Armstrong leaving, and possibly Bitton. Would we go into the new season with Brown, Ntcham, McGregor, Armstrong, Kouassi, Bitton and McGinn? Add the wingers and guys who play the No 10 role that's a squad itself.

29 May 2018 15:11:13
Armstrong out and McGinn in or Armstrong to stay happy with either. Looking forward to seeing Lewis Morgan and possibly Christie this season. Delighted with Rogic getting tied up and Ajer KT also we are strong before additions. For me a RB CB and striker. I am just looking forward to see the level of player we are looking to bring in.

29 May 2018 15:27:34
Me to ed he's the only player a would take, the argument that there would be to many midfielders i don't get, it's about competition wee McGregor is the prime example had to bide his time and when got the chance took it. top clubs like city are constantly strengthening and i am not classing us with them but it's the same theory.

29 May 2018 16:03:49
The good thing also Mally is we now have players who can play centre mid, out wide or the No 10 role, McGregor and Morgan being examples. I'd go as far to say this is currently our best midfield since 2003.

30 May 2018 00:02:36
The argument rather McGinn protects the back four as well as Brown does is rather stupid We are not Privvy to the instructions given to McGinn by Lennon, who may encourage him to play more of a box to box role.

30 May 2018 00:06:24
how much is mcginn worth just now if we want to sign him, i know there is talk of 5mill but that is surely exaggerated and i know we want to off load allen but at this stage in his career what is he worth.