Celtic Banter Archive January 29 2018

 

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29 Jan 2018
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30 Jan 2018 07:39:30
How long does it take for a picture to get approved? Put a belter on yesterday. Well a like it anyway.

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29 Jan 2018 22:56:55
Long time follower of the site, finally bit the bullet and registered. Delighted to see Charly in the hoops, excellent business by the club! 🍀.

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29 Jan 2018 23:10:45
GB: HH.

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29 Jan 2018 21:51:56
ED007 do you think McGregor's place in team will be taken by Musonda.
Good pacy attackers now in Forrest, Musonda, Sinclair and Dembele/ Eduard
hail hail.

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{Ed007's Note - He can play in any of the attacking 3 positions, Tim but his natural position is as a No.10 so do I think he'll take over from McGregor and come summer I think this pushes Rogic further out the door.}

29 Jan 2018 22:18:02
I agree about rogic ed. Doesn't matter how good he is if we can't keep him on the pitch. With what the gaffer said few weeks ago I think clock is ticking on both rogic and big simi.

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29 Jan 2018 22:58:31
Love big Tam be gutted if he left.

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30 Jan 2018 07:04:35
So would I lm67 but he misses about half the games every season. You can build a team round someone like that.

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30 Jan 2018 08:53:39
Can't see Rogers selling Rogic. He should sell McGreggor as he will be moved down the pecking order. Time will tell. I would be gutted if big Tom leaves. Couldn't say the same for Callumn.

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29 Jan 2018 21:27:14
Musonda confirmed.

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29 Jan 2018 21:37:34
Never even knew he was baptised or made his first communion lol.

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29 Jan 2018 21:55:18
That’s great news, think he’ll be on the bench tomorrow night.
I know a lot of people might not agree with me on this:
We should consider John Souttar from Hearts. I’ve watched over the years to see how he’s progressed from Dundee Utd to Hearts and I’ve been impressed. The guy came back from a bad injury and I believe he would be great for us. Don’t think he would cost a fortune either.
Other to you guys:
Agree or I’m I talking p**h?

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29 Jan 2018 21:57:43
Best one yet Tim, 😀😀.

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29 Jan 2018 22:24:33
I was lucky to go to a real betis game last year. They were playing Valencia. I think it was musondas debut for them ( not sure ) . This boy was head and shoulders above anyone on the pitch. He was outstanding. I think ed already said it but this boy will go right to the top. He is better than Dembele and for us to get him is an incredible achievement from the board. He will run riot in Scotland.

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30 Jan 2018 07:31:44
Tim

That is why the signing took so long to announce. Medical, baptism, communion and confirmation all needed first.

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30 Jan 2018 09:02:33
After I watched the youtube clips Ed out us onto I thought this boy is fecking brilliant. Then I thought, aw naw, some richer club might nip in and steal him. So I was delighted we got him. Rogers was saying 24 clubs were wanting him. I'm actually glad I never knew that as this would have made it a more nervous couple of days.

I've watched it about five times now and you need to lunch yourself that we git him.

Credit were it's due. I'm never slow archiving the board pelters when they dither. Well done Peter. Now get us a couple of defenders and I may consider going back to Mass as there may indeed be a god after all.

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29 Jan 2018 21:04:02
Hi Ed, Just wanted to say well done you on getting musonda right especially after digging Edouard out from nowhere and highlighting we were in for him too

That is why we are ALL on here and look for

Just don't go all big time CHARLY on us 👍🍀🍀.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks, Jamie. That's appreciated mate.}

30 Jan 2018 00:21:28
Do you reckon he could end up being some form of swap deal with the moose?

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29 Jan 2018 21:00:55
OK guys with Musonda signed and giving us a big lift, and even Brendan saying revenge is on the team's mind versus the jam tarts, I am doing these bets for our game tomorrow.
Celtic -3 7/ 2
Celtic -4 10/ 1
Celtic -5 25/ 1
A goal fiesta for the Bhoys hail hail.

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29 Jan 2018 21:25:03
Will musonda go straight into the team?

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29 Jan 2018 21:49:22
Maybe he will do a Scot Sinclair and start on the bench them come on and score although I'm hoping we are a few goals up by then.

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29 Jan 2018 22:52:43
Don't care what score, as long as we win and shut that snake in the grass Levein well and truly up. He's another biased bigot like McInnes and needs to be brought down a peg or two.

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29 Jan 2018 23:27:48
We need to absolutely smash them the mora. These jambos are getting too big for their boots, levein is seriously getting on my mamory glands. Plus the site am on the now has a squad of jam tart brickies n ad love to wind them up after the shite av took about the last game.

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30 Jan 2018 00:03:53
Steph, I'll settle for a 1-0 win. HH.

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30 Jan 2018 07:20:02
So would a, but a want to demolish them performance wise, don't give them a sniff.

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30 Jan 2018 09:07:13
I heard Green Brigade have got a "Natural Order Has Been Restored Banner" lol.

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30 Jan 2018 09:25:11
Hearts are crap. We should be looking to maul them. A 1.0 win at home would be another signal that other teams are closing the gap. We should rip them a new one. A 1.0 win against a bunch of journeymen is not good enough if we want to restate our superiority.

We have been poor recently, hopefully Charlie will give us a boost to regain our form and if we can stop missing sitters I think it's a 4.0 tanking.

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29 Jan 2018 20:24:47
What about Artur Boruc for the goalkeepers position till end of season not getting a game at Bournemouth.

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29 Jan 2018 20:17:37
Does anyone know how long Marshall has on his contract and a ball park figure of how much he would cost? Cheers.

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29 Jan 2018 20:25:42
According to transfermarkt website it says he is out of contract on 30.06.2019.

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29 Jan 2018 22:24:43
Cant see him coming back to Scotland.

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29 Jan 2018 19:51:00
Ed are you aware of the goalkeeping situation in terms of whether we're looking for a loan, free agent or purchase?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't know, Kev sorry, probably looking at all 3 as we're so desperate but I don't see there being a big fee spent on a 'keeper this window.}

29 Jan 2018 20:16:57
My guess is we would look at a loan deal to see us until the end of the season.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd guess the same, RAW.}

29 Jan 2018 20:31:49
Agreed. Stop gap until a longer term signing in the summer.

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29 Jan 2018 20:55:29
I wouldn't think of any x Celtic keepers cause are they going to play second fiddle I don't think so.

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29 Jan 2018 19:32:17
I see zlatan is maybe getting released by man u, he'd do a job for us for 6 months and he said before he wanted to play for us and I know his wages would be a problem but surely he's made enough out of football if he really does want to play for us.

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29 Jan 2018 19:48:55
Swap for Ciftci 😁.

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29 Jan 2018 19:56:49
Not sure when David Beckhams new club Miami start playing but would not bet against him ending up there.

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29 Jan 2018 19:58:43
Hes also on about a zillion a week.

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29 Jan 2018 20:10:34
Stan that's probably were he'll end up but if he wanted to play for us, money was always going to be a problem and he'd know that himself. Augustus I never said that did I!

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29 Jan 2018 20:19:12
He certainly doesn't need the cash Will, 5 months at CP before heading to the sun he would prob still finish the Leagues top scorer.

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29 Jan 2018 19:18:15
I have been an avid watcher on here for ages and have now decided to join in the banter. Hail hail everyone. Great site Eds.

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{Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard buddy.}

29 Jan 2018 19:32:43
Macelt: HH.

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29 Jan 2018 18:58:12
HI Bhoys and Ghirls: a few questions/ thoughts.
1) Do we play Charlie Bhoy from the start Vs Hearts.
2) we know when the accounts are posted at the end of the year, does it state how much money we actually have Cash wise?

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29 Jan 2018 20:11:26
I think he will be on the bench Peter. A bit like Sinclair in his first start against them. I will be happy if he has the same impact as Sinclair had on his debut and beyond.

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29 Jan 2018 18:56:33
If James McLean signs before the deadline I'll be setting up my stall on Springfield Road selling dry pants for those requiring them! ☘️.

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29 Jan 2018 19:36:51
With charly signing a would think that'll be that jfp.

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29 Jan 2018 21:49:28
Jfp I think you really need to let this go. It's no happening.

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29 Jan 2018 18:35:12
I was really hoping we would tie up Mcginn in January. I know we have a lot of CM's but he's a cracking player and would add an extra dynamic to the team. He's not even been mentioned in the press in the last week or so, do you think there's still a chance Ed or more likely the summer where we would face a lot more competition for his signature.

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29 Jan 2018 19:16:13
I'm a big fan myself. Some players are unfairly criticised for their performances against ourselves or other clubs. McGinn would develop dramatically under Rodgers and learn a great deal from the midfield players currently at the club particularly our Captain. Broonie himself was a raw youngster when he came and look how he has turned out. McGinn has great drive and energy i think he would be an asset to the club.

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29 Jan 2018 19:24:02
I have watched him ever since we were first linked and he scored against us. He's never impressed me once. Against rangers he was rank rotten.

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29 Jan 2018 19:27:10
As things stand he is better staying at Hibs until we have a spot in the squad for him. I don;t think he is ready to hold down a first team spot and figure playing each week is the best thing for his development just now. Perhaps reassess in the summer if any of our CM leave.

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29 Jan 2018 19:44:21
Our entire 11 was also rank rotten against Rangers Kev.

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29 Jan 2018 20:09:55
Kev 83 I’m with you

McGinn has been awful in 6 of the 7 games I’ve seen him in this season

He’ll end up in Lesgue 1 playing for Fleetwood if he leaves Hibs.

We gave Kouassi so need to sign an overrated SPL player.

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29 Jan 2018 20:26:25
He was Scotlands best player against Holland. He might have been rank against Rangers but he wasnt rank against us before Xmas when he found the net twice. Or is he just being judged on his poor games.

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29 Jan 2018 20:31:31
All players have ups and downs in form, hardly makes them overrated and only good enough to play in league 1. McGinn is a cracking player who would excel in a better team. As of Kouassi he might end up not making it but hard to judge a player who can’t get game time because he plays behind our captain who hardly misses a minute of football.

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29 Jan 2018 14:47:33
Hi Ed, what's the signing deadline for Charly Bhoy, if he is to be available for tomorrow night?

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{Ed007's Note - I can't find anything in the SFA/SPFL Regs. giving a specific time but 24 hours before the game kicks-off popped into my head when I read your post. I'd go with that or midnight tonight.}

29 Jan 2018 15:45:52
Ed, just listening to a podcast that has just gone up on Newsnow. Quite an interesting listen regarding Musonda. I thought he recently signed a new deal with Chelsea but they say on podcast his deal runs out summer of 2019 when loan deal expires. With no option to buy we might be in with a chance if he enjoys being here. Why would he extend his Chelsea contract in the summer or Xmas time when he knows he really holds all the aces. Similar position to Solanke.

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{Ed007's Note - Musonda definitely signed a new deal in December tying him to Chelsea until 2022, Stan.}

29 Jan 2018 16:25:54
Thought i read that myself Ed, Thanks.

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{Ed007's Note - (yes)

29 Jan 2018 16:39:46
Didn't Sinclair sign pretty close to the deadline then score the winner next day?

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29 Jan 2018 17:22:46
Thanks Ed. Hopefully over the line soon!

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{Ed007's Note - From what I've been told it's a done deal and just to be announced...

29 Jan 2018 19:19:20
Love it ED. Really getting excited about this young lad!

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29 Jan 2018 14:33:43
Seen BR saying the club is working hard to bring the playerS he wants.
Any thoughts on positions or names🤔🤔.

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29 Jan 2018 14:46:31
That's the big difference between us and Sevdo JJ. They leak their targets to their buddies in the press in order to unsettle players. We are going about our business in a dignified manner and the press have no idea who is coming until they step of a plane. BR said "24 clubs were after Musonda and its a great coup for the club" so the Board have done a great job. Let's hope there is another couple of surprises yet. I'm thinking we are in for an exciting couple of days giving the Manager, Players and fans a big boost.

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29 Jan 2018 16:45:44
Since Brendans came in there's been no leaks to the media about players joining the club. Do you reckon Commons gave them info at his time here?

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30 Jan 2018 00:06:50
Always stuck up for commons on here and thought he was a good servant to that club! But since he left and I’ve heard him on the tele and in the papers it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if he did leak stuff to his press pals, including that fud keevins!

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29 Jan 2018 14:19:18
Seeming the pictures today I notice tosh McKinley in the club tie and that.
It's good to know guys like him that love our club and served us well are still working for us.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm sure McKinlay works for the media department because he's on CelticTV quite a bit.}

29 Jan 2018 14:50:28
Think he combines that with ambassador role as well ed. Sure boyd does that tae.

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29 Jan 2018 17:02:50
Wiki has him as an agent for celtic media . not sure what that is lol
Hail hail.

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29 Jan 2018 17:15:42
Was Tosh not Lubos agent.

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29 Jan 2018 23:45:21
Did Tosh not whack Larsson on the head at training to welcome him to Glasgow? 😂.

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29 Jan 2018 14:15:26
Ed any idea how much we are going to be paying out on charly bhoy?
Mate just told me between the fee and his wages we will be paying more than 4 million in the end.

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{Ed007's Note - I've heard that Celtic will pay £1 million as a loan fee with 50% bonus if we reach the CL next season and we're paying somewhere around the £10k - £12k a week towards his wages.
So going with the top wage of £12k a week works out at £2364000, maybe rounded up to £2.5 million with a signing bonus for the player/agent.}

29 Jan 2018 15:03:44
A lot of cash for a loan eh.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm sure it'll be money well spent, Kev.}

29 Jan 2018 16:18:40
Hope so ed. Looking forward to watching him.

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{Ed007's Note - I think we all are mate, hopefully we'll see him at some point tomorrow.}

29 Jan 2018 13:35:04
Just seen that Hazard the young keeper has been back at Celtic training after being loaned out has he been recalled ED?

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{Ed007's Note - I seen that. Can't youngsters on loan come back to play in development games so it could be that.}

29 Jan 2018 14:00:57
Not sure he might be doing extra training am sure if he was back Celtic would've told us all. Will find out morra when team lines come in for Hearts game I quess?

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29 Jan 2018 14:05:10
Are falkirk full time ed?

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{Ed007's Note - Yes.}

29 Jan 2018 18:57:24
Might be wrong but I was told we had a couple of youths out on loan who still train a couple of days with Celtic in order for the management to keep an eye on there progress we also have Lewis Morgan on his own diet and fitness regime while still at St Mirren.

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29 Jan 2018 13:16:22
Where is Musonda going to play?

I know he normally plays right wing and sometimes left wing. Pretty sure he can play number 10, although I've not seen him play there much.

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{Ed007's Note - He'll mostly be playing in in the No.10 role, that's actually his natural and preferred position.}

29 Jan 2018 13:26:20
I have not seen a huge amount of Musonda and the times I had watched him he was being deployed as a winger.

So glad to hear that his best position is No10, as that is the position we needed to sort.

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{Ed007's Note - Definitely.}

29 Jan 2018 13:32:01
Brilliant quality he is was watching DR, s Keith Jackson I know I shouldn't but like to hear any transfer gossip. He was discussing Celtic in for keeper that they were working on a story hoping to have a name soon. He and two other reporter were discussing Celtic transfer dealings this window mentioned Hendry it may go to a Loan back maybe . Then JK said that BR might be looking at one more peace of business but again he's still working on that story. But one thing for me is they all talk about the window closing on wed nite I thought it was Thursday nite in Scotland?

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{Ed007's Note - We can't loan Hendry back to Dundee as Scott Allan is already there and you're only allowed one loan from another Premiership team. I'm sure I read our window was open until 1st of February, Rich but I've just checked and it's the 31st, that's my fault for telling you that the other day, sorry kid.}

29 Jan 2018 14:13:34
That's alright Ed so what do u think to KJ saying could be maybe one more other than Hendry and a new keeper I don't think so?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see why not.}

29 Jan 2018 14:17:16
Window closes at midnight on Wed. And 11pm in all the other big leagues so it gives us an extra hour. It will change in the summer as the EPL voted to close there window before the league starts although they can still sell players to other clubs.

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29 Jan 2018 15:34:42
Is there something your no telling us ED? No lolikr u to think KJ may be right haha.

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{Ed007's Note - While the window's open anything can happen.}

29 Jan 2018 17:34:27
It was just the way KJ said it he thinks there might be someone else u never know.

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{Ed007's Note - Or he might just have said it so that people keep checking their website.}

29 Jan 2018 18:55:41
Yeah thought that too ED.

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29 Jan 2018 11:31:25
Hi Ed
Just wondering with these kind of loan deals, is there ever anything in the contract that states the player has to play so many games.
I think I remember when Rodgers came in it took wee Roberts a while to get into the team.

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{Ed007's Note - With players like Musonda and Roberts there will be stipulations about game time but they will be flexible taking things like fitness and form into consideration.}

29 Jan 2018 11:59:13
Cheers Ed.

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{Ed007's Note - You're welcome, Jon.}

29 Jan 2018 12:06:32
I don't think any team would take a player on if they weren't prepared to play him. The actual number of games would then be dependent upon how well that player performs. If there was a stipulation that was binding regarding actual games then it makes a mockery of the managers prerogative to select the best team.

There would be an understanding that the player is moving to develop. But, to suggest that they are guaranteed a certain amount appearances is nonsense. If a player came and was a compete disaster there is no way a club would be forced to play him.

With Charlie it is highly unlikely that he would not be given a chance. Look at Roberts, it took a while for him to be used and that was solely down to Rogers deciding at that time not to play him.

He goes to get experience, but, he only gets that if he proves he is worthy of a spot in the starting line up. Stipulation suggests they pick our team, they don't. We wouldn't go for a player we didn't think added to the tam and will be goven a chance to prove that. if they fail, then no stipulation would over ride the fact they aren't performing.

Stipulation is too strong, an understanding that he will be given a chance is a given. But as Ed says, that's dependent upon form and fitness.

I cannot see charlie being denied game time. Whether he keeps getting it will be down to his performance and not by any agreement to give him a certain amount. Why would a team go for a player they weren't prepared to play. Especially if we are paying good money to have him.

If h is a quarter as good as he looks on video then he will play most if not every game if he avoids injury.

cannot wait to see the boy play.

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29 Jan 2018 12:23:25
Pretty much an over exaggerated description of what ED said then?

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29 Jan 2018 13:11:03
In football manager the loan contracts usually stipulate what role the player will have in the team, e. g. Key Player, First team, Rotation, Backup etc.

They also detail what % of the wage you pay if the player plays and a % they get for not playing. Usually the % for not playing is greater than the % for playing, which means you have an incentive to play them.

There is no clause that they need to play a certain amount of games. While this is just a game I think it is probably a decent reflection on reality.

However, I admit that I don't have any first hand knowledge of player's actual contracts.

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29 Jan 2018 18:22:47
Stipulation, if you look it up is a prerequisite. There is no prerequisite for the number of appearances, so you five can do one. :)

It was the stipulation aspect I was questioning.

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29 Jan 2018 19:24:45
You may want to learn to count as there are only four posters above (Jonbhoy71, Ed007,Jonbhoy71 and RodgersAtWork) . Somehow, I doubt you were including yourself as one of the five.

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29 Jan 2018 19:45:09
It said five on my PC.

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29 Jan 2018 20:16:06
So you can't even count to five and rely on a computer telling you the answer?

It would appear you also have a problem with comprehension as I never claimed there was a clause that stipulated the number of appearances a loan player must make. Here are my words verbatim "There is no clause that they need to play a certain amount of games".

For the record neither did bravetart86 or Jonbhoy71.

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29 Jan 2018 10:07:40
Ed, can you see more signings than Musonda coming in or you think that will be it? can't see any outfoing other than possibly Simunovic.

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{Ed007's Note - Celtic will make a further bid for Hendry but I'd imagine a GK will now be top priority. Simunovic's agent is still hoping to get a move fixed up for him with England his preferred destination.}

29 Jan 2018 11:43:23
Cheers Ed.

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{Ed007's Note - No probs.}

29 Jan 2018 12:07:42
Whats your view of Hendry? Do you think he's good enough to cope in the CL?

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{Ed007's Note - That'll be a big ask for him just now, MP but in a couple of years I don't see why not. He's more than capable of playing for us at domestic level so it'll be a case if he can kick-on and progress to the level Rodgers and his staff think he can.}

29 Jan 2018 15:43:52
I have my doubts he could step into that environment right away. The problem for me with that assessment is he is in effect another project and doesn't solve our right now problem in that position. Commpare, being cup tied doesn't help us against Zenit.

I will be dissapointed if we don't get in a CB who can step into the team with Simo, if he stays for that. I don't have a problem with projects, we need to go that way, but we are in the last 32 of a tournament and we need cover of the calibre to deal with that now. Not in 18 month time.

Hopefully Rogers has a similar view of the present and has the board working on another guy who has what it takes right now, otherwise we make an already difficult tie harder by not recognising that what we currently have can't cut the CL level teams. If we get a RB, new goalie and a centre half as well as Charlie, I will probably pass out.

We need to give ourselves as much a chance as possible. Hendry for me isn't the guy right now. We might be doing the boy a disservice but what I have seen of him doesn't make me think that's the problem sorted.

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29 Jan 2018 10:41:59
Just seen that Musonda has arrived in Glasgow on Twitter. What a player, really good business getting him on an 18 month loan deal. If we signed him on a perm deal he would probably get signed for big money within 18 months anyways.

Now we need to get another defender (RB or CB) and a GK. If we do this then it has been a great window.

Starting 11 will give Brendan a headache every week when everyone is fit

How do you fit Tierney, Roberts, Forrest, Rogic, Musonda, Sinclair, Griff and Dembele into the same team.

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29 Jan 2018 11:19:32
Forrest at RB?

New GK

Forrest
Simunovic/ new CB
Commper
Tierney

Brown
Ntcham/ Rogic

Roberts
Musonda
Sinclair

Griffiths/ Dembele

Not bad at all👍.

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29 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Agree NC If we can add a defender and a goalie by Thursday I’ll be happy! Along with paddy Armstrong rogic and compper coming back that will do us nicely! Really happy about Musonda signing to, it’s exactly the type of player we’ve been needing! Tricky quick and can play that killer pass in the final 3rd!

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29 Jan 2018 11:41:29
We need competition musonda on the left to compete with Sinclair wee paddy on the right that could do a bit of damage 2 creative players.

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29 Jan 2018 15:52:17
Malky Forrest rb? Have u been sniffing the glue.

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29 Jan 2018 10:38:33
Musonda in Glasgow for signing talks throw him In against the wee huns it's pay back time.

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29 Jan 2018 10:22:06
Just on Sly sports that the boy has arrived.

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29 Jan 2018 10:19:48
So tomorrow night's team for me.
Dr vries
Boyata Simi ajer Tierney
Brown ntcham
Forrest Sinclair
Musonda
Dembele.

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29 Jan 2018 10:07:06
Evening Times reporting Musonda has arrived in Glasgow. No pictures or fanfare like Murphy or Cummings though!

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29 Jan 2018 09:02:44
Joe Hart wants out of West Ham and needs short term 1st team football to guarantee World Cup place. Thoughts?

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29 Jan 2018 09:19:52
Reason he was unfancied by pep was his distribution. that's one of the make things the gaffer wants in a keeper.

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29 Jan 2018 09:41:26
Big Joe is a brilliant keeper and has just lost confidence. I would take him. I take your point about distribution though so doubt Rigers would go for him. Plus he's on a fortune so that is the main problem for me.

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29 Jan 2018 09:57:49
He shouldn't be anywhere near an England team, most over rated goalie of all time.

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29 Jan 2018 10:09:57
He's even worse with high balls than CG.

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29 Jan 2018 10:34:30
Good point Kev a said him last night to a couple of mates but the wages he will be on will be unreal.

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29 Jan 2018 11:03:43
Just a thought and to see what's your opinions but does anyone think that when Roberts is back playing we could shift Forrest into a RB role? He has the pace and reminds a bit of Didier Agathe. Just feel we could save a bit of money here.

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29 Jan 2018 13:20:03
If Foster was being overlooked while at Celtic and playing out his skin. Then I don't think Celtic will be a destination for Hart if he wants to cement his World Cup place.

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{Ed007's Note - Any reason and I don't care how flimsy it is should be used NOT to sign Joe Hart! The guy is just straight out dross!}

Review Of The Day 29th January 2018

29 Jan 2018 05:58:36
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 29th January 2018

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29 Jan 2018 00:16:19
I think we should go for the Hibs keeper Marciano, hew a great shot stopper and its temp, i don't have much faith in DeVries.

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29 Jan 2018 05:48:48
He’s terrible.

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29 Jan 2018 08:40:19
Who? Dorus or Lucky?

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