Celtic Banter Archive February 29 2016

29 Feb 2016 16:45:30
Friday night RD says Boyata's red card was deserved and he needs to learn to stay on his feet and not dive in

Monday he says the red card was the wrong decision and the club will be appealing

Football manager or circus clown

You decide.

{Ed007's Note - Like everyone else he's had more time to see it. According to someone at the Club he had only seen 2 replays of it in the tunnel, so he came out straight after the match and gave a truthful answer and now he's admitted he got it wrong, what exactly are you saying is wrong with that?
There was people on here on Saturday that still weren't sure it it was a penalty and we had all seen it multiple times from every angle.
I did think he should have done something better with his hair for the post match interview though - I might as well get that out in the open before someone else brings it up, and what's with that accent? You'd think by now he'd have developed a broad Scots accent. My 84 year old partially deaf aunt struggles to understand him and for me that's totally unacceptable. He obviously doesn't care what the fans think.}

29 Feb 2016 17:01:24
Circus clown imo although respect for admitting he was wrong.

29 Feb 2016 17:36:21
No matter what RD does some people will never be happy. Who would all the haters rather have? Quick to say get rid but not so quick with an alternative Stubbs? No thanks struggling at championship level Moyes? No chance found out already sick of the negativity around the club just now and it's all been peddled by moan ins and the rags.

29 Feb 2016 17:45:13
Don't you think before you lambast your own player you should be sure? He should have taken the haven't seen it yet managers quote or retracted it on Saturday once he had seen it don't you think

29 Feb 2016 17:46:43
What I'm saying is if he hadn't seen it properly then maybe he should have told the reporter he wanted to have a proper look at the replay before making any comments or even backed his player who insisted he had won the ball Instead he's made himself to look a fool and probably given the panel an excuse to overturn the decision.

{Ed007's Note - He's hardly made himself look like a fool, but I suppose if you're constantly looking for anything you can to be negative about it's been a slow day. If anything he should have said it wasn't a red card as the Hamilton player was offside anyway.
What if he came out screaming about how all the referees have got it in for us and that it's a personal vendetta against him, he could even take to social media to enforce his point- because that would't have made him look foolish at all would it?}

29 Feb 2016 18:11:24
Wish I could listen to the interview again, sure he said he had a good look at it (or words to that effect) and that Boyata had got nowhere near the ball, ah so he had only seen two replays, how many did it take him to change his mind, does make him seem a bit foolish to say the least,

29 Feb 2016 18:14:49
Their striker was also offside, which Ronny should have said on Friday and/ or today! That would have been the best way to shift the blame away from us totally! I like honestly and he has got class, my thing with him is he's a little naive - he's not streetwise enough! I still don't think he gets it, realises the magnitude of the club! The Celtic players were also getting kicked all over the park, that tackle on Teirney was shocking, any manager would be freaking out even a little, and telling the players to sort themselves out, there is no passion anywhere, either the players or the coaches!

29 Feb 2016 18:19:42
I agree with you here Ed. There have been so many times where Ronny has deserved the criticism he's gotten recently but this certainly isn't one of them. He made a comment based on the replays he was shown (funnily enough, none of them were the conclusive one) and now he's came out and said he's saw it again and sees that it wasn't a red card. He maybe could have declined to comment if he hadn't had a right good look at it but this is a case of a mountain out of a mole hill and another chance for certain folk to get a wee dig in. It seems a bit personal tbh.

{Ed007's Note - Of course he deserves criticism, Kev but it's went way beyond that. We're at a point where everything is being spun and portrayed as a negative by people. CFC fans are now doing the media's job for them.}

29 Feb 2016 18:28:10
Sorry Ed - just noticed you mentioned the offside!

{Ed007's Note - That's the first thing I'd have been mentioning, if the linesman had given the offside there's no need for Boyata to chase the player down. If you watch back you can see Boyata stalling the start of his run with his hand up for the offside. It's the old play to the whistle again but it's a valid point. Looking at RD's comments today as well he was angry enough with Boyata for going to ground anyway so that might have clouded his judgement in the heat of the moment.}

29 Feb 2016 18:29:39
You prob think Ronny can do no right with some people ed? I think he can do no wrong with some people😂

{Ed007's Note - A wise man once told me, 'Nobody can be right all the time and nobody can be wrong all the time' - then he gave me 6 months!}

29 Feb 2016 18:34:35
We should be proud of R D on this occasion for his openness& honesty . Unlike Wenger& Mourinho he didn't try to hide . Unlike many of his critics here who name call and ridicule him at every opportunity.
It takes a good man and a big man to admit he made a mistake.

29 Feb 2016 18:41:40
So you agree then Ed he should have said it wasn't a red card and the player was offside! Thanks for backing my point! Unfortunately he didn't do that he decided to agree with the incompetent ref and criticise his defender! Not really the done thing! And now of course we have appealed! Embarrassing and yes he definitely looks foolish!

{Ed007's Note - No, I'm saying he changed his mind after reviewing his initial position. That doesn't look embarrassing to me, embarrassing to me is your manager running on the park like a thug to confront officials. Foolish and embarrassing is chatting up a guy on Twitter thinking it's a girl.}

29 Feb 2016 19:08:55
I totally agree with everything you said there Ed, too many extra pundits on here the smallest thing gets blow out of proportion, jeez a bet more people on here at first glance or 2nd glance thought Boyata what you doing that for, we have a new Efe. its not until people have seen it a few times and let's face it the tv show the incident over and over then we realise maybe it wasn't Boyatas fault, I blamed the big man until I see it a few times. I think with some of the supporters RD is always going to be fighting an uphill battle and even when we gub teams they will find a problem with something. I like Ronny and what he's trying to do at OUR club, out of all the managers I've seen mentioned on here who would actually take the job? I don't imagine many would be interested considering how the board works, Lenny left because he knew the way we were going to go and knew it'd be about constantly improving players to move them on, and then back to scratch but the board and fans would still expect CL footie and to win the league by a canter no manager that's got a reputation would touch the job these days hence why we are now needing to go down the same route with managers as we do players, up and coming that won't ask for much in return.

{Ed007's Note - Look at it this way, what seems more important here? The way the linesman and referee both blundered and probably cost us two points or the fact the manager spoke truthfully about an incident then after having THREE DAYS to review it changed his mind? Maybe they think RD should phone them all for their thoughts before answering questions on live TV, maybe they wanted him to lie.
Plenty were eager to chastise Boyata on Friday night but now it's plain that he won the ball it's getting twisted into something to use against the manager.}

29 Feb 2016 19:28:09
I don't think Ronny has done anything wrong here, he gave an honest opinion at the time and on seeing it later, changed his mind.
I wish referees were as honest, this referee will probably stick by his opinion even if he knows he's wrong, he'll be quite happy to let Boyata serve a ban rather than be marked down by his bosses.
I don't know why referees are such a protected species that they can't explain a decision, I would much rather that the referees were interviewed after a match to say how they come to these decisions, rather than put a manager on the spot when he probably isn't in any sort of position to see it right.

{Ed007's Note - It's unbecoming of a CFC manager to change his mind. They'll be wanting him to wear brown brogues next.}

29 Feb 2016 19:47:52
Can't beat the brown brogues ed 😜👞👞.

{Ed007's Note - So Bill 'Splash' Struth said.}

29 Feb 2016 19:53:57
Nice blue suit to match u will look the part ed give it a try 👍🏿.

{Ed007's Note - Aye but what part? Warbiola looks like Sloth from the Goonies going to a funeral standing in it.}

29 Feb 2016 20:06:42
You can't realy criticise the ref in any of this if Ronnie had two looks at a replay and thought it was a red card, while the ref just acted in the heat of the moment.

29 Feb 2016 21:41:55
Look on the bright side at least Boyota will miss two games

29 Feb 2016 22:10:24
I was one of the few in live chat on it and I "flip flopped" in the decision ( Even one of the Ed's was indecisive on it having seen it over n over )

I said afterward regardless now he handled it real cool / calm / collected (RD)

But am telling you Ed the day RD starts wearing a "cardigan" that's it, he should get SIX months for that :P.

{Ed007's Note - He should come out in his next interview with a bowler hat, sleeveless cardigan and brown brogues on, a rowing oar over his shoulder, swigging Frosty Jack out the Loving Cup and say 'particularly' or 'respect' a lot. #RonnySaysCleanForTheQueen

01 Mar 2016 00:36:10
RD had a right to say what he did he's trying to improve Boyata as a player and not to make silly last ditch challenges like that, Albeit it was a good challenge in the end and it should've been offside but there will be times where he will get it wrong and be sent off and cost us the game when all he needs to do is pressure the player into missing the target. Boyata can be a bit reckless but if he cuts that part out of his game then he will be a decent defender Ronnie has probably made that clear in training. If it was NL in charge he would spend the entire post match interview slating the decision. That used to give Sevco the opportunity to use that annoying pish "always cheated never defeated"

{Ed007's Note - Be fair, it was a personal vendetta against NL. So... Football manager or circus clown?}

01 Mar 2016 09:28:16
I just wish that referees and linesmen (sorry, assistant referees) would come out and comment as well.
"Well, it looked like a foul at the time but given the opportunity to watch it on tv, I can see that it was not and the player was offside so I think the red card should be waived. "
I accept that the result would have to stand but would that not be a refreshing change?
The football authorities allowing refs to speak out, the use of technology to try to ensure fairness for players and supporters? Aye, while I am on this track might as well wish for the winning numbers for tonight's Euromillions (probably got more chance)

01 Mar 2016 09:52:49
It would appear that Ronnie read my post on here about the incident and changed his mind. :P

By the way it is the best people in the world who are prepared to change their opinions if new facts arise. It is only fools that are unprepared to change their opinions even when presented with incontrovertible evidence.

01 Mar 2016 10:22:27
Who RD or NL I think RD conducts himself better than NL so football manager for me :)

01 Mar 2016 11:26:23
Here ed u sure know a lot of warbiola as u call him, considering u don't watch lower league football! 😁 tryin to find one of they wee smiley faces wae a big stick stirring a pot there.

{Ed007's Note - There's more pictures of Nude-Nut kicking about than there is of the Kardashians!}

29 Feb 2016 07:54:19
Ed I got a coupon up on sat. I had both teams to score and win I put a pound on it as I have done every sat for atleast a year. Well sat it came up 6 teams I picked and reading was the one with there late late goal the put it up and got me 8557.16 for a pound how do I post a pic of my coupon to show you all.

{Ed033's Note - brilliant. Click on the coupon to see a larger image

29 Feb 2016 09:39:43
Well done marco!

29 Feb 2016 09:48:43
Cheers buddy.

29 Feb 2016 13:03:01
Great return that marco and you're without a doubt 'up'. BTTS and Result are where I have had my most successful wins. Treat yourself.

29 Feb 2016 14:14:33
Beauty 😁 reading had you sweating lol.

29 Feb 2016 14:25:30
Marco what a return for a quid, go to the top of the class, me being a greedy sod would have wished I had put a tenner on it but you can now think happy thoughts of all the ways your better half can think to spend your money lol.

29 Feb 2016 15:15:55
Well done mate. Think il start giving BTTS a try lol.

29 Feb 2016 15:35:56
I do my normal coupon on a Saturday but I always put one of these on as a fun bet . Not last season but the season before I had btts and result I had 10 teams up waiting for Charlton to score for 45000 Charlton had not failed to score at home in 17 previous games until my day lol.

29 Feb 2016 15:40:07
Timalloy the first thing my wife said was why didn't you put a fiver on it lol I got a claim from my work for 4250 so we are going to the gold coast in 2018 for the commenwelth games so it's turned a great holiday into a spectacular one.

29 Feb 2016 15:40:57
Dn30 do a btts and result much better prices buddy.

29 Feb 2016 16:12:38
Marco can you give me Wednesday's lotto numbers please.

29 Feb 2016 16:54:15
That's amazing mate, well done!

29 Feb 2016 17:05:37
Timalloy I don't do the lottery mate but try any combination from 1-49 buddy.

29 Feb 2016 18:41:34
Well done mate, love seeing the bookies get a doin, although I am pretty jealous ya jammy c--t 😋.

29 Feb 2016 18:44:39
Having told us about your magnificent win, I am sure you will endeavour to send money around us all to wet our mouths.

29 Feb 2016 18:48:43
I've been trying 7 games for £1 and it's not came yet but seeing yours shows with a bit a luck it can happen well done lad that's a smashing win I like seeing people beat the bookie! ill keep tryin see if ma luck is in 1 week too!

01 Mar 2016 09:23:50
Ryan it took me ages to do it buddy and I probably won't get another up but I will keep trying. Just stick with it buddy as it's only a pound.

01 Mar 2016 09:24:43
Old bhoy you can fight my wife for it lol.

01 Mar 2016 09:26:34
Jbhoy it was total luck as I think 4 of the teams scored late on. I probably won't get another one up but I will keep trying as it's only a pound buddy.

01 Mar 2016 10:59:32
Marco 1888, u didn't tell the wife did u? That's at least £12k you will be spending now . God luck and I hope lightning does strike twice for u.

01 Mar 2016 21:21:42
Good on you marco, hope it comes in again, my brother years ago had a similar thing at Cheltenham, but he never won anywhere near£8k, but he only put about 20p on knowing him. All the best mate 🍻.

02 Mar 2016 08:03:52
Cheers guys it was my wife who told me I am nights and she woke me up lol.

29 Feb 2016 04:55:09
Anyone else feel it would be daft to let Emilio leave in the summer? I've always been a fan, and there have been times when he's been among our most potent threats going forward. As someone said lately, he and stokes on the left seemed genuinely to click. Its great LT is getting a run, but I think Emilio has been a great servant and hoped he'd make a testimonial.

29 Feb 2016 07:35:56
It is clear that izzy has dropped down the pecking order but he is great back up. For that reason I would like to keep him. However there are a number of factors to consider:

1. Can we get a good transfer fee.
2. Is he on big wages?
3. Does he want to leave?
4. Is he happy to sit on the bench?

29 Feb 2016 09:32:14
Defensively he has let us down a few times, but as an attacking player he is one of the best wide players at the club.
He has close control and skill and it is another sign of RD's poor judgement that he is not either being rotated with KT to save the youngster from burn-out or use Izzy on the left instead of Armstrong.
I realise the manager wants to build his own team, but he has to use the best players available, who can perform in their best positions.

29 Feb 2016 11:42:52
I think in Europe that would probably be ideal for Izzy and LT both in the team, If LT is forward Izzy could cover it would work out better defensively and attacking as I think both can put in a better ball than Armstrong on the wing.

29 Feb 2016 13:08:27
FFS JJ2. Poor judgement? KT is our PLAYER OF THE SEASON.

29 Feb 2016 14:56:38
Never said he wasn't Jim Tim - and to be perfectly honest he along with Griffiths have been the only highlight of a very poor season.
However, when we have pushed young players too much and relied on them to carry the team/ defence there is a risk of burn out as this is his first season and we need to look after his long term future.
Izzaguire can give that 'protection' and cover as-and-when.
McGregor was an automatic start last season and look what happened to him and the same happened with NL and Forrest.

29 Feb 2016 18:27:25
We haven't pushed him too much at all. But as soon as he gets a knock or niggle it's going to be RD's fault anyway. So what has he got to lose? Of the three of us RD knows best how to manage young players. He's the ones with the KPIs and stuff like that, or better yet just ask the lad if he is feeling tired. But at 18 playing a game of football every week shouldn't be too much to ask of his body. The only thing to worry about playing young players too much is losing the incentive to work hard and learn. Forrest doesn't work hard, KT does. And he seems pretty grounded anyway, I mean, he still sits with the youth players and has spoken of how he treats every opportunity he gets.

29 Feb 2016 18:54:11
I hope Izzy stays remember our best win in R D 's reign was in Izzy's last game for us when we beat Hamilton 8 -1 . I have nothing but the highest praise for K T, however I would like Izzy to get some game time .