Celtic Banter Archive February 28 2019

28 Feb 2019 22:01:52
Farcical the way fans are slagging Rodgers style of play and achievements this last few seasons I’ve lived the dream last few seasons that’s why I feel so let down I thought he was too. I can’t comprehend any fan doing what he does the gb banner sums him up perfectly but we need someone to carry on what he started. Kev you’ve championed Benitez for ages he would be perfect he would buy into everything about us but also improve us. Let’s not settle for winning keep improving and winning the Celtic way.

28 Feb 2019 22:36:25
First season was great
2nd was average
3rd was average

82pts last year in league would lose us leagues back when it was competitive.

This season we dropped many PTS and would probably be 2nd or matching pts.

Europe been embarrassing mostly.

Leicester will some weeks look excellent but will probably lose most games against better opposition.

28 Feb 2019 22:59:29
I don't think it's farcical welshybhoy he walked out with ten games to go in a league, after saying it was "the best job in the world". We've all been sold a dummy with this guy and he deserves all the slagging he gets. He doesn't care what we think so we move on to 10 IAR without him.

28 Feb 2019 23:38:09
We can improve under Neil Lennon.

01 Mar 2019 07:16:30
He tried to gut us of our entire backroom staff before a huge trip to swinecastle! He put dynamite to his legacy and he’s a scumbag for me now but we should always be moving forward.

01 Mar 2019 07:49:33
I will be always grateful for the lift he gave us when he arrived at Celtic Park, the players he immediately brought in and the vast improvement in existing players, turning us into 'Invincibles'.
Record breaking and a conveyor belt of trophies should never be disrespected or disregarded and although there were some blimps along the way and an obvious friction between him and Lawell, the only thing that angered me and left me resentful was the manner and timing of the departure - not to mention the destination.
The club will always be much bigger than any one man, so it's done and we move on and one thing we really have to ensure is to carry on this magnificent run, retain our trophies and be fully prepared for a summer of re-building and consolidating our domination.

01 Mar 2019 08:50:55
As Campsieboy said Mo Ro put dynamite under his legacy and tried to gut our backroom staff regardless of impact on Celtic one day before Jambos, never wanted to be here, used us, lied about being a fan and dream job, left without a nod or wink to the players, slipped out the back door, a fraud and a phoney from day one. Not interested in what he won while here the weasels name should get edited out on here before the H word is it’s more offensive.

01 Mar 2019 17:21:53
Don’t read my post wrong the guy is a rat. It’s the way all of a sudden fans saying our system etc was wrong didn’t like the way he set us up etc great coach terrible man.

28 Feb 2019 19:53:44
Theres an attraction for players to want to play under a good coach. With respect I don't think Lennon, Clarke or even Moyes would hold that attraction for players to want to play for Celtic.

So we are at an interesting cross roads. Stick with guys like the above and continue signing guys from unknown leagues and lower leagues in England? Or push the boat out for another marquee manager (Benitez, Wenger, Mancini? ) and give him money to reshape the team in the summer for a push for 10 in a row.

My only worry with the latter is that we would probably need to sell a few players to balance the books.

28 Feb 2019 20:21:48
Sorry but none of them float my boat mate.

28 Feb 2019 20:58:02
You wouldn't take any of them GJ? I'd buy any of their bus fares to Parkhead to be honest they are three very talented managers and a E.

{Ed007's Note - Finish that off and I'll tidy it up mate 👍

28 Feb 2019 21:07:21
Wouldn't bother with a marquee manager, would rather have a manager that can manage, and bring in players like Larson, Moravcic, Wanyama, VVD, Brown, Armstrong, and bring through as much home grown talent as possible.

28 Feb 2019 21:09:50
We signed mediocre players under Rodgers and he's considered a top manager.

28 Feb 2019 22:12:33
Ha sorry Ed I pressed send before I finished there, but that was pretty much the jist of it. Was going to say that those three would be the type of European experienced manager that we could do with to take us forward, be a bit more savvy in Continental competition and provide a different angle for the teams style.

28 Feb 2019 23:18:19
Yeah magic in Europe and third in the spfl. lol. I would be surprised if Lenny is just here until the end of the season. Reckon depending on Silverware ie deliver the treble jobs yours, don't and its not kind of deal. He has been here before in similar circumstances.

01 Mar 2019 00:34:48
Mally do you honestly think guys like Burke, Weah Edouard, Ntcham, Sinclair would have come if say Ronny was still in charge. I dont. And we need guys like Tierney, Forrest and McGregor to believe that they will continue to improve as players in order to keep them.

01 Mar 2019 10:13:26
Buster it wasn't Rodgers that persuaded weah to sign.
It was lawwels connections and toure that got weah here.

01 Mar 2019 12:16:10
Am talking about the pish he signed like compper gamboa and the likes under lennys management we signed Virgil wanyama hooper.

28 Feb 2019 19:02:47
Had a few days to digest what's went on and came to the conclusion worse has happened and we have always got through it. one thing that has annoyed me is if true this story about vardy it's the same story he told about mcgrain and as I say if it is true the man has no shame .

28 Feb 2019 19:54:47
Can you expand on this?

28 Feb 2019 20:07:42
When rodgers 1st came in he asked why mcgrain wasn’t ready and mcgrain said he didn’t know if he was still needed now the same story with vardy. as I say if true no shame.

28 Feb 2019 17:33:12
Maybe with BR moving on, we may get the chance to see big Commper get a game or two?

Anyone any thoughts about this?

28 Feb 2019 17:51:35
If he can play then why not? Been fed a lot of b. s. by Rodgers of late. Who's to say something else is reason he is not playing?

28 Feb 2019 18:53:22
I've never once knocked commpor because we have never really seen him play so who really knows what he could offer on the pitch.

28 Feb 2019 19:05:32
I heard a rumour recently that even some of the players were mystified as to why he wasn't getting a game, especially when Hendry was filling in at CB. Who knows we may have a gem rotting away in the reserves!

28 Feb 2019 19:34:32
My own opinion is that I reckon he must probably have something about him otherwise why did he sign him?

And what we know of of BR and his massive ego I reckon maybe in training or in private big Marvin challenged his authority or something like that, I mean I can think of no other reason as to why he wouldn't be playing him.

28 Feb 2019 20:01:57
Maybe playing out from the back rips his knitting.

28 Feb 2019 21:51:13
Possibly ged but for me defenders should always defend first for me, i mean what's the point of being a defender that is great at passing the ball if you can't defend very well?
Take big Erik for instance, not particularly great at passing but was good at defending and would run through brick walls for you. I would rather have Erik than Boyata in the team for sure as reckon he would compliment Ajer much more than Boyata does.

28 Feb 2019 22:49:53
I down recall Erik being worse passing the ball than Boyata is.

28 Feb 2019 15:44:30
The betting sites have got their list together of who'll be in charge at the start of next season and it's pretty uninspiring. Lenny is the favourite then it's Steve Clarke, Moyes and Larsson. It's a lot of the same old names being churned out since the first time Lenny left.

28 Feb 2019 15:51:44
Lennon and clarke would do me but I can't see Clarke being a number 2 after being a manager and already he has ruled himself out of it.

28 Feb 2019 15:54:56
When have the bookies ever been right about a Celtic manager.

28 Feb 2019 16:04:11
Basically they have no idea either. Henrik? He hasn't even managed in about 4 years!

{Ed007's Note - I'd even take Moyes before Larsson! Didn't he get Helsingborg relegated for the first time in their history?}

28 Feb 2019 16:17:48
I thought I had read earlier that Clarke had ruled himself out, but I heard him on the radio last night, and he never answered the question, just sort of swerved it, although maybe he just didn't want to repeat himself.,

28 Feb 2019 17:30:51
Can't really understand why no one here seems to keen on Neil Lennon other than for now to see out this season. He came in the last time in the same way after Moybray was sacked and then got the job on one year rolling contracts and never complained. As I see it it is difficult to plan etc if you don't know if your contract is going to be renewed or not. Then when Flash Harry comes he's given a massive 4 year contract and 9 million to spend on a project etc and he disrespects us. If Lenny manages to keep this run of trebles going I don't see why he shouldn't be considered. I know I could be completely wrong in what I am saying so I would appreciate someone to explain why he is good enough for a run in but not to get the job permanently. I certainly would not want another BR coming in and using us to reignite his career or as a stepping stone for something bigger because right from the outset they are clueless as there is nothing bigger.

28 Feb 2019 18:52:42
We set the bar high, when DD appointed BR and although it ended bitterly, there's no denying it raised our profile and brought us record breaking success, not seen before in generations.
Obviously if NL guides the team to the other two trophies, he will be in a very strong position and having done it all before in Europe as well. he is more mature and experienced.
I reckon the appointment will be measured by keeping a healthy distance between us and the rest, because of the advantage we have.

28 Feb 2019 18:56:34
Love henrik but as far as bringing him in as manager it’s a hell no for me! Done hee haw in the positions he’s been in and it would be a disaster! No to Moyes for me to, just something about that guy I don’t like, looks a sneaky one to me! And we’ve already just had one of them in!

Willing to give Lenny a Go at the moment, but there’s something in my gut makes me feel like I’d like to go down a fresh route in the summer! My heart says Lenny and if he wins the remaining trophies he’s got to be the front runner! But my gut says I would love a fresh approach! Heard Wagner who was at Huddersfield mentioned and think he would be a good shout!

Yes I know he didn’t set the heather alight in the top flight down there, but I liked the way he came across and his teams played good football! Done great getting that club promotion. not saying him but thinking outside the box instead of just the usual names!

28 Feb 2019 19:09:21
I’m with you, Donjim. Lenny’s the man for the job.

28 Feb 2019 15:20:13
Now everything is settling down and we have had a few days to reflect on things here are my observasions
1} BR did the dirty on us like a second hand car salesman in a flash suit.
2} We have a chance to rebuild the team around a nucelius of young players. It is now up to the board to resist any offers for them. They are all on long contracts so no need to release them.
3} Choose carefully the next Manager or Team director. My thoughts turn to Bielsa. Rose or Martinez
I wonder if there is a DR Joe out there to guide John Kennedy, Damian Duff and Scott Brown as long term managers
4] After the season is finished we could claer out up to 15 players and bring in 6.
3 permenent defenders and three loans as future buys. Burke and Weah?

28 Feb 2019 15:44:11
I forgot about Martinez good shout jonace.

28 Feb 2019 16:15:53
Jonace, How do you propose that we get rid of these 15 players u write about, 5 I think are out of contract, remainder are here for the rest of their contracts on very generous contracts agreed by P L after information from scouts and manager.

28 Feb 2019 16:29:14
Rose reportedly has a 40million euro buy out clause! That’s him off the list! Chris we loose Izzy De Vries Boyata Allen Lustig Gamboa Toiljan Burke Weah Benkovic.

28 Feb 2019 17:03:20
Also possible players moving on Commper, Hendry, Gordon, Kouassi. Ntcham, Millar, Benyu, Malumbu amd Morgan.

28 Feb 2019 22:59:14
I'd like this Miller as LB experiment scrubbed now BR has left. He deserves a loan out in his favoured LW position and finally getting to show everyone his potential that BR had regressed since his arrival.

28 Feb 2019 14:58:04
Been listening to TalkSH**e today and they have a serious love for our ex manager. going on about the demonstration against him at the game last night. funny all i saw and heard was a banner telling it as it is. they don't seem to realise he has lied to us for years, taking us for fools. well hopefully the banner is last word on the matter, we have a Treble Treble to win. then onto 10.

28 Feb 2019 16:00:50
Didnt have love for him while he was here.

28 Feb 2019 12:36:31
Does anyone else think we are going into Saturday's cup tie with Hibs with a huge advantage? Not only have we got a never say die attitude just now but we've also got a manager with intimate knowledge of the opposition.
Should be a cracker!

28 Feb 2019 13:52:45
Certainly looks that way; although Kamberi will be fired-up to prove a point - so no more fannying about at the back Bhoys lol.

28 Feb 2019 12:18:28
Some points from last night, firstly well done to the whole team for playing to the very end, team spirit still intact, thankfully.
Is it just me, or was Lennon making a point by refusing to wear suit and tie, ala Rodgers, instead he wore anorak and training gear.
Also at the ordering off, watch the assistant referee standing right next to the incident, he NEVER signalled for a foul, he was NOT going to help ref make decision.
Finally, I hope the Green Brigade now forget all about Rodgers, he is past history, forget about him and just support the team.

28 Feb 2019 12:46:51
No he wasn't making a point by not wearing a shirt and tie. He always wears training gear apart from cup finals. Scruffy bas.

28 Feb 2019 13:30:45
Thought McLean refereed that game very well tbf.

28 Feb 2019 13:59:24
I am usually critical of referees - naw really!? - but McLean got every big decision correct and gave me hardly anything to moan about ha ha. On the subject of officials; funny how Beaton The Cheatin has not had a Celtic game this year? Saving him for March 31 maybe?

28 Feb 2019 15:37:10
Timalloy the assistant didn’t need to help the ref he blew for a foul right away and issued the red immediately. oldkilly.

28 Feb 2019 15:54:28
The Hearts player who deliberately clatterd into Bain should have been red carded as he already had been booked.

28 Feb 2019 12:00:37
Strange double standards going about.

Like if a manager uses us as a stepping stone to England it's a problem.

Yet at the same time people are happy for us to be a selling club. In which players sign with the sole purpose of getting sold down south or abroad.

In that case van dijk is Judas. Armstrong, forster, wanyama, Dembele etc are all Judas? Why didn't they all stay for 10 in a row?

That's what football is now half the players who play for us don't give one monkeys about us.

If you want a Celtic manager and commited players for long term then we would have 11 Scottish players with the odd guy like Izzy who take to the club.

Harsh reality of modern football.

28 Feb 2019 12:14:54
The main difference being that those players never sold the fans and club a lie. They also left in transfer windows allowing us to get replacements. They didn’t tell us it was their dream job, we expected them all to leave.

Players are much more easily replaceable, a manager is responsible for the whole team not just one position on the park and he not only left us at a crucial stage in the season but tried to leave us without a single member of coaching staff.

Surely you can see the difference.
Other managers have managed to see out the season in much worse situations, Rodgers recent comments trying to imply the board weren’t backing him was him obviously planning his exit thinking he could escape without blame.

Very different situations.

28 Feb 2019 12:17:35
Yip, agreed.
Some fans expect all players to be as passionate about the team as they are. It doesn't happen often. Players and managers are paid to be involved, fans pay to be involved. Massive difference.
I can accept Rodgers desire to move on and challenge himself but I'm very disappointed in how fast he did it. HH.

28 Feb 2019 12:26:39
It's the timing he basically left us in the lurch at a very important part of the season the business end and was for taking our whole backroom team and left us with no management.

28 Feb 2019 12:58:28
Moving on elsewhere isn't really a problem for me. But leaving a side when you've got a title to win? I'm lost for words still.

28 Feb 2019 13:31:51
There’s absolutely no doubt about it, it was the timing of Rodgers departure that was the issue. An 8 point lead with 11 games left it was by no means a fore gone conclusion and a tough Scottish Cup QF ahead the timing was disgraceful. If he’d decided to call it a day at the end of the season I’m sure the majority of us fans would have thanked him for all he achieved with us and wished him well. But I have to admit I agree with the GB banner. He deserted us at the most crucial point in the season. I’m grateful the we have Lenny at the helm now for the rest of the season.

28 Feb 2019 13:54:46
Tesla is tolling . No Celtic supporter could condone a manager leaving with yet another SPL to be won with only 11 games left .
As far as selling club is concerned, I think every club in these islands is a selling club, in so far if a bigger club comes in for a star player, any club will sell.

28 Feb 2019 14:47:49
Tesla its not the fact he left, its the fact that he has been lying to the fans for almost 3 years. more and more stories that his little anecdotes are all bullsh*t - Danny McGrain etc
For someone who is so clever if he had stayed to the end of the season and left because the board didn't match his ambitions then the board would have copped the flack, instead he has been found out for what he is, only interested in himself.
As stated above, GB banner said it all for me and probably 99% of fans. the king is dead, long live King LENNY. he is now forgotten!

28 Feb 2019 15:51:55
LMAO yeah Rodgers full of integrity. If we had bet Valencia he would of still been here untill we got knocked out.

Fact of matter is he was willing to take our whole backroom team at a crucial point in league and right before Hearts away game. Nothing but a rat in my eyes.

Also I am convinced us getting benkovic on loan was tied into Rodgers already agreeing to take Leicester job back in September.

Let's move on. He's gone and in the past. Hope Lennon does well and is offered job permanently. We need stability.

28 Feb 2019 11:34:55
One Proud Tim today the Bhoys stood up to a gang of thugs basically the treatment dished out on us at times was border line organised violence Scott Brown stood up to everything when he could easily have lost his control with assaults on him he took it and lead the team to a victory with all that's happened this week fantastic YNWA.

28 Feb 2019 11:33:58
Plus points if lenny takes it till the end of the season he knows the club inside out and he knows the Scottish game inside out and he's avalable for nowt. long term i'd be looking for a better quality manager but in a caretaker role till end of season it might make sense.

28 Feb 2019 11:10:12
Has Creepy Craig (Levein) stopped greetin yet?
To be fair his team did very well for spells in a tough game; however, considering the turmoil, emotions, and the disjointed preparation for a game at a hot-bed of hate. All credit to The Champions, obviously not at their best, for digging in almost drained of energy and doing what we did at Kilmarnock and not giving it up.
BBC Sportscene obviously took it bad as well; focusing on the banner and republican anthems in their summary; whereas 'Derry's Walls' belted out in the Sevco game gets no criticism or comment.
That's typical Scottish Media Selective 'sectarianism' consistent hypocrisy.

28 Feb 2019 10:47:37
Didn't hear it myself but seen a few posts on Facebook today saying the fans were singing the old nacho novo song for brendan Rodgers. If true I'm absolutely disgusted, more than I've ever been, with our support. I'm as angry/ disappointed/ scunnered as anyone with what he's done but I'd never ever sing that.

{Ed007's Note - My nephew was at the game and told me that it wasn't sung at Tynecastle but there's a video of some fans in a boozer singing it - so 4/5 more @rseholes on the level of coin throwers etc. I doubt you would get away with that at a game without getting a sore face.}

28 Feb 2019 11:19:27
I'd hope so Ed. Cheers.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

28 Feb 2019 10:40:33
Anyone else see Lennon jumping on
German Jeff last night. Bhoy didn't look like he had a clue what was happening.

28 Feb 2019 10:54:38
Yeah I seen that Kev was kissing him n'all lol. Think it is first I've seen Jeff smile since he got here. Me and the old man had a right good chuckle at that.

Was also impressed that JT got straight up to his feet after forearm smash to the face by Hearts player. He's slight in build but tough as nails by look of it.

28 Feb 2019 11:23:29
Not sure about him yet. Had some good game and then a few where he's looked shaky tompo.

28 Feb 2019 11:28:01
Yeah I noticed that Tompo. Was good to see. On first viewing i thought it was a harsh red possibly because of JTs reaction. Having seen it since I think the ref got it spot on.

28 Feb 2019 11:52:45
I like Toljan reminds me of Jackie McNamara a lot. Slight, quick, good with ball at feet, etc. Well worth a punt if we could get him for £3m or so.

28 Feb 2019 13:37:52
He’s not for me on the evidence so far. Not going to write the boy off yet but I think he looks suspect in defence. I’d like to see Ralston get a game.

28 Feb 2019 13:43:33
The lad needs a bit of time. I'm glad he is on loan so we can get a good look at him.

In agreement his last 3 games have been a bit shaky after great start but got the makings to be a really good footballer and the fact Dortmund signed him means he must of been doing something right in Germany.

28 Feb 2019 16:21:17
Ice man Ralston is injured.

28 Feb 2019 08:54:45
I would rather have passionate manager than one with class.

28 Feb 2019 01:19:18
If Lenny can take us to a treble treble, it sets up a bit of a predicament. Keep Lenny on or offer the job to a big name who fancies himself to go down in History as the 10 in a row manager. Add also into the mix, that manager could be a part of a quintuple treble!

28 Feb 2019 05:31:57
This part of the Treble Treble will be known as the Rebel Treble . Passion and a bit of directness . Did anyone notice a long throw into the box . In places like that you need to get into their faces . The only time we looked under pressure was when the Rodgers method was deployed along the back .

28 Feb 2019 07:54:26
I wouldn’t get too far ahead big Rab, let’s just think about keeping it up game by game and hopefully see this season out by winning the treble. There’ll be a few bumps along the road but we have a man with passion driving the bus.

28 Feb 2019 08:15:27
People are shouting about the bloke from Salzburg I understand this but do wee take the risk of a foreign manager? Specially when where so close to ten in a row me personally I think it should be someone who knows the club. Ie your man Neil Lennon once wee get the ten wee can try a European model but for now there can be no mistakes.

27 Feb 2019 23:12:12
Like the rest of you, I've gone through the wide range of emotions in the last couple of days, shock, confusion, hurt, anger, pride, defiance and probably a few others I've forgotten. We're all gutted at Rogers' departure and we're venting our anger at him. If I'm honest, I'm looking for excuses to feel aggrieved but he's certainly given us some. Leaving mid season is the obvious one but I think the fact that he's consistently claimed to be a Celtic fan and that he's just like us and he's in his dream job is actually the major one. Most of us believed him and we believed that he was here for the long haul to build something really special. Publicly, we would all say that the big cup is now out of our reach but privately I know I was wondering if some day he could build a team capable of mounting a challenge for it. I think that's why I feel so let down. I've tried to see it from his point of view to understand it better but that's not easy. Is it about the money? What can he buy now that he couldn't buy when he was with us? Is it about glory? I can't see him winning anything with LC. Is it about a stepping stone to a bigger team in the pub league? Surely he could've waited and got that big move regardless? Or, for once, has Adrian Durham got it right? Is he scared that Slippy G might get the better of him. Last week, we pulled off a last gasp winner against Kilmarnock to open up an 8 point gap. He knew we were going to Tynecastle tonight to what was a very tricky fixture and if we lost it would most likely be back to 5 points. Slippy G turned him over in Dec. Was he scared it might happen again at CP? One thing's for sure, even if he genuinely believes he's like us, he's not. None of us would ever leave the club voluntarily and certainly not mid season with a job still to be done. I have to say a massive, massive thank you to Neil Lennon for stepping up to the plate. He's putting his reputation on the line for the club with a squad that aren't his who are used to playing a style of football that is alien to him. He's willing to walk into what is a really difficult situation and accept the risk of failure to help the club and the fans that he loves. That's because he is just like us. He is a real Celtic supporter. That's what makes Neil Lennon a Celtic Legend. We are all Neil Lennon. YNWA.

28 Feb 2019 03:55:35
I feel the way about him the same way when stevie g sigh Ed for them.

28 Feb 2019 08:44:27
Good post COYBIG.
Sadly Brendan won't go down as a legend in the eyes of the supporters although we have to acknowledge the good work he done domestically and getting into the champions league twice.
According to the radio last night his salary is 20 million over 3 years and with all the money in the world, I still think he will regret what he has done over the last couple of days.
He has left us in a strong position in the league and Lenny is the man to finish the job.
We start a new chapter in our fairytale club and last night was great to see everyone pulling in the same direction.
We have moved on, so no more distasteful songs about Brendan and like a say I hope he is happy with all his money in the world.

27 Feb 2019 23:10:18
Brilliant result.
I was also delighted to hear Lennon mention we need to stop over playing when always playing out from the back, constantly inviting pressure.
All us fans have said it but the ex manager who shall no longer be named seemed to encourage it way too much.