Celtic Banter Archive February 28 2016

28 Feb 2016 18:31:40
So Lenny has expressed an interest in returning to us as manager in the near future.
As much as I adore the guy, I'm no a fan of second returns either as players or managers as it simply never works.
But would you have him back?
Would the board finance it?
I very much doubt it.
"I am Neil Lennon, We are all Neil Lennon".
✊🍀.

28 Feb 2016 19:08:45
Absolutely not.

28 Feb 2016 19:30:23
He didn't say near future. The next manager is David Moyes. My timing may be wrong but it is DM for 3 years.

28 Feb 2016 19:46:25
DM confirmed he's got no interest in the SPFL, his ambition is another go at the EPL.
But I'd go with Rodgers.

28 Feb 2016 20:14:47
If Lenny wants to come back then I would definitely welcome him home. As for returning managers Big Billy came back and win the double in the centenary year for us.

28 Feb 2016 20:25:47
It's sad day when our (supposed) choice is between David Moyes, Brendan Rodgers and Neil Lennon. It's even sadder when you realize that Lennon has more trophies as a Manager than the other two combined.

28 Feb 2016 20:35:52
Definitely not Lennon - he doesn't deserve to come back! Also he wanted to leave! I'd prefer Rodgers to Moyes, purely because of the style of football! I'd be surprised if he took it though - he's knocked back a few jobs including Swansea and Valencia! As for Moyes, his stock is going down by the day, he might be desperate for it! Why don't you tell us more info ParadiseWon? There's loads of top managers out a job at the moment, and it's all about timing! I could list 10 I'd be delighted with, all with a good pedigree, we'd have to offer them a top salary though! If the board actually did their job and paid the going rate instead of throwing money out the fecking window on signings like Cole we might get a bit of reputation and respect back! We're in danger of disappearing off the face of the earth in the eyes of Europe!

28 Feb 2016 20:51:36
Delphic, who's your ten?

28 Feb 2016 21:38:12
Neil Lennon inherited a total shambles. He turned things around and got us back on track. He also had his obvious failings. I haven't listed his successes so there's no need to go over his failings we all know what both were. I remember him with fondness as a player and a manager but that's where it should stay. The worrying thing is I believe he left for the same reason Keane didn't take the job. He seen the future playing budget. I think anyone quoting moyes and Rodgers are kidding themselves. We have as much chance of getting guys like that ( not that I want them) as we have of signing the players we are linked with in the transfer window. These managers and players have had a taste of the madness that is the epl and will never come near Scotland. At Celtic they could get 500k per year in England they could get that in a month. It's ok to speculate on managers, but I believe our next manager will be like the players we sign. Spl or championship. Finished in England. Or an unknown from Norway Croatia Denmark somewhere like that.

28 Feb 2016 22:43:52
no don't want him back . I supported him when he was with us . Once and once only B Mc Neil was in a different era . Lennon had his time, give R D the same time and let us see if he gets it right . Then go with someone new.

28 Feb 2016 23:22:46
Prandelli, Rudi Garcia, Bielsa, Favre, Mazzarri, Marcus Weinzierl, Hitzfield, Yakin, Seedorf and Hiddink! 8 of them are currently out a job, and the other 2 will be in 3 months! Well Weinzierl has said he'd like a new challenge then! We think Hiddink will leave Chelsea! Now I'm pretty sure at least half would say no but I'd be delighted with any of them, although I'd prefer one of the older ones! Hiddink had agreed to join us before O'Neill got the job so he knows the club and might fancy it before/ instead of retirement. I doubt it though! I definitely think if we offered a top salary and let him run the club how he wants we'd get at least one!

28 Feb 2016 23:37:12
Nice to see a list of options although, as you say, many/ most probably wouldn't be interested.

Of that list, I'd be in favour of Bielsa and in particular Yakim, whom we should have went for 3/ 4 years ago.

28 Feb 2016 23:58:07
What we do need is a strong character in charge, at the moment I don't believe we have that, I don't think Ronny has it in him to tell the more senior players a few home truths, then we have his 2nd in command JC who has the ego the size of Europe who I believe would try to tell a few home truths but is not respected enough for anyone to listen . A bad combination in my opinion.

29 Feb 2016 15:37:22
Lmao absolutely not! But reality is if we don't see changes in policies, we could very well see club scrape dregs of the barrel and likes of Lennon unfortunately is a possibility.

No matter how rotten a manager Lennon is, some fans only would want him back cause he falls into celtic minded category. A lot of pi$h.

29 Feb 2016 19:02:29
strong character, u are having a laugh . Board and Lawwell select new manager in two three years time or whenever& they will appoint a man they can work with and control .
Constant fighting between Manager and Board isn't in anyone's interest .

28 Feb 2016 18:10:50
I see the English teams trying to copy the Barcelona model of playing a defensive midfielder at centre half ie copying macherano I see United with blind and Liverpool with lucas if we were to do it who would we try to put in there brown johansen not baton he is too namby pamby?

28 Feb 2016 18:35:00
Did sakho not go off injured?

28 Feb 2016 20:18:06
I think this is the plan for ES. He looks as though he is going to struggle a bit in the air so perhaps his attributed are more reading the game and playing from the back. I am a bit worried about his lack of pace though.

28 Feb 2016 21:13:00
Yeh sakho did go off but Liverpool started with lucas and sakho in central defence sakho replaced by toure as I said if this is the cool thing to do in world football would we try it and what partnership. I think sviatchenko looks like an old style sweeper in the Willie miller mould?

28 Feb 2016 22:49:42
I thought most people thought that Blind for United was in a blind United defence as United played as if they were Blind . If u haven't got a proper holding defensive midfielder like Lennon, then better have two operating in that area.

28 Feb 2016 11:08:55
No doubt I'll get shot down in flames for saying this but I'll man up and take the heat.

So back to my point, the last half of last season I thought we played some cracking football and teams struggled to deal with our intensity. At that time all the players were working hard by closing down opponents and moving off the ball to make themselves available for the pass.

Fast forward a year and only some of our players are playing at that intensity, while others are hiding out on the pitch. So what has happened to cause this change in some of our players?

If rumours are to be believed there is division in the squad and some players have downed tools. What has caused that division is anyone's guess but it is clear something ain't right.

I know most of the vocal people on here wasn't to point the finger at Deila (I'm sure he merits as one of the blame) but I think the players are just as much to blame, if not more so.

Here is what some might consider controversial, I would get rid of the guilty players before I got rid of the manager. The players I believe to be the root cause are: Brown, mulgrew, commons, Forrest and stokes. Luckily 3 of them are coming to the end of their celtic careers but I would do everything possible to get rid of commons and brown and if I couldn't I would banish them to play with the development squad. (He said getting off his soap box)

28 Feb 2016 13:17:45
I think you generally find RabMac that clubs find it easier to sack 1 manager rather than 4 or 5 players.
It's not easy to sell players who aren't performing, and sacking them could cost an awful lot of money, particularly if there are several of them.
With a manager it's only 1 compensation package.

28 Feb 2016 13:17:52
I think Brown is on side Rab. He's spoken publically a few times of his support for RD, that the players owe him etc. Which, you're right, a few do, and haven't been performing for one reason or another. Said a while ago, its just as much about getting rid of some now than getting new players in.

28 Feb 2016 13:18:52
Would get rid of brown offers nothing going forward. Not a forward thinking player. I would keep mulgrew ahead of ambrose and boyata and play him defence but he wouldn't be first choice.

28 Feb 2016 13:21:24
I agree about those players Rab, none of them are as good as they think they are! I said something similar a week ago when you said Brown was playing well, which I thought was bizarre! A lad said the other night about us getting kicked all over the pitch on Friday night and nobody getting a hold of them or dishing a bit out themselves! No leaders, the team is full of 6/ 7 out of 10 players, and by God there's about 30 of them! The only pass marks for this season go to Teirney and Griffiths. Rogic has done it over a short period, only in the SPL though, - I want to see players doing it over 5 years, that's when players should be judged! For 2 players to get pass marks has to be the biggest brass neck in history! I like Ronny but he's not the man for me! I take no delight saying that! If we played in Europe tomorrow I don't think he'd have learned a thing! I don't rate Boyata, but for him to slate him the other night was also bizarre! I want an experienced manager, maybe someone in their 50's or even older. If we offered the wages we would save on the players you mentioned I'm sure we could get someone with pedigree! I don't really want Moyes but he was earning £2 million per year at Sociedad, we should be willing to at least go to that figure!

28 Feb 2016 13:56:28
While I do rate Brown as a player and think he has improved technically under Deila, he is currently way below the form of the last few seasons and against Hamilton he looked like he was trying to lose us the match. This is why I was inclined to think he is part of the schism.

You say I claimed Brown was currently playing well but I have no recollection of ever saying that. However, I do remember saying that he had improved under Deila and I still believe that but I cannot defend his current form.

28 Feb 2016 22:55:33
Our players and manager are been drained from players and manager by abuse on forums and from loud mouths in stands .
Not only has Celtic this problem, but Aberdeen " has set up a Moaners section "
Maybe we should have similar sections and sure we can have a laugh .

28 Feb 2016 09:17:37
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Now to contradict myself, although I like big priced each way bets, the first day at Cheltenham is usually for favourites so put the favourites in an accumlator or lucky 15 bet.

{Ed023's Note - Thanks Tim, I appreciate the plug mate}

28 Feb 2016 04:37:43
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Myou can't erase it

Everthing is accessible.
Bandwidth speed dropped any? Lol.

{Ed001's Note - I think this post should go on the Conspiracy site and Android site as well mate.}

28 Feb 2016 10:00:04
Totally agree rglen post of the week , someone that talks sense at last.

28 Feb 2016 10:56:54
Ed001 few shandys last night posted in the wrong section, think there was a thread further down. Was going to suggest the new tb build instead of wookie for anyone having trouble as it has been relatively stable for me. Apparently though the quickest bit of access to all your texts messages, contacts etc is through the fb app and by clicking agree to the t&c when downloading you say cheers yeah have a look. I was alarmed that I was getting updates for apps that didn't show on my app list (bloatware) so looked into it and asked questions. Was told that directly from an enforcer of law that it is the easiest access they have to skim your phone as easy as you do!
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{Ed001's Note - I only use an old phone myself for streaming on purpose. I agree you do have to be careful.}