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28 Aug 2015 23:11:03
Seen a couple of post's about the best android box to buy could someone suggest one of the better ones.
29 Aug 2015 10:32:11
Got the t8 and its brilliant wee box cost me £80 which has been paid for already just by cancelling sky last month
29 Aug 2015 11:56:06
Thanks.
28 Aug 2015 23:04:46
Only a few hours until I get the bus and then the boat . Looking forward to getting the show back on the road
28 Aug 2015 22:55:59
Well if ever we needed proof that Lawell and the rest couldn't give a f**k about the thoughts or feelings of the fans then today proves it! In the week we go out the CL with a wimper and we're looking for some kind of pick me up,we go after Christie(who I rate for the future) and a Manchester United reserve on loan! Could it be anymore uninspiring! Pathetic to be honest! They'll get bums on seats for the rest of the season!
29 Aug 2015 02:33:29
We need to unite and boycott
29 Aug 2015 08:46:26
Are you not boycotting already! Things might not be good just now but asking people to boycott is ott if people want to protest then start going to games and show your displeasure by vocal chants or banners as a starting point and see if that gets the ball moving rather than asking people to turn their backs on the club they love. Remember as a club we have high and lows this is a low and showing displeasure is ok but not going to follow my team because we can't do well in Europe isn't one of them. Personally I'd rather win the league as bad as it is than have a little euro success.
29 Aug 2015 12:34:04
Jim1972 are you happy to sit back and watch club being run into ground? I don't think there is one supporter out there who doesn't want best for the club. Too many corners have been cut past few seasons and its getting worse. Even this transfer policy of buying players on cheap to make a profit is not working if you average profit/loss over 5 seasons it works out at less than £2m per season. Most importantly quality is dipping on field and I have no confidence in our defence. Boyata is new Ambrose.
I know you have to take the good with the bad, but it just seems bad getting worse
29 Aug 2015 13:45:29
I remember some hard times in the 70's after our nine in a row and we were second best to Jock Wallace's ugliest team ever; then of course the 90's were no picnic for a variety of reasons and my auld man also told me many a tale of lean years, tragedies and discontent in the 30's - 60's.
Through most of it we always had some truly great players - crowd pleasers, entertainers, match winners and ball players.
Here we are in the 21st century, in the most privileged position of any Celtic team (with no Rangers) and we are not taking full advantage of the situation.
Instead of soaring light years ahead of the rest, with the resources and facilities at our disposal and either rearing or attracting 'Celtic class players' - we are not only standing still, we are practically going backwards.
29 Aug 2015 14:31:56
Dn30 you need to calm down celtic aren't being run in to the ground we are under achieving . It's undeniable that we miss Rangers/sevco and the club have cut back in light of this. Yes we should have pushed the boat out more than we have done but people like yourself who go occasionally rather than regular can't be budgeted for as regular sub 40k attending matches hurts revenue. The time for boycotts is when the club can't pay bills or loses the league not when an inept tactician can't beat Malmö. Ps I'm a glutton for punishment I always have faith before kickoff Virgil anytime and 4-0
28 Aug 2015 19:58:19
Just Watching sportscene at 40, think we should resign Larsson, bet he could still do a better job than what we've got
29 Aug 2015 01:31:15
Think that's a bit unfair on Griffitths he's scored 5 already this season a bad game doesn't make u a bad player and our service was shit!
29 Aug 2015 02:40:26
Should have taken his early chance better even though it was on his weaker foot all he had to do was a side foot chip over the keeper who was off his line.
What about when he kneed the guy in the baws? Could have seen instant red for his stupidity, don't need guys like that on the park.
It's pretty depressing that Griffiths remains our best striker at the club, the best of a bad bunch and I hope we're not going into the EL with him as our main striker.
29 Aug 2015 08:31:34
Just reminiscing, one of the greatest players, and didn't cost a lot , a wee fella who could out jump Michael Jordan
28 Aug 2015 19:51:23
Ryan Christie!! Jings crivens helpmaboab. What is happening here?
When RD came in he said he wanted to scout the best talent in Scottish football. Well true to his word he is doing this. Armstrong, GMS,Allen,Cifti,and now Christie.
The way I look at this is there are many fans of our great club and some posters on here who have bemoaned the fact that the other clubs in Scotland are not holding up their end when it comes to Europe and helping the co-efficient. (Quite rightly too).
So what do we do? We go out and buy these players at these clubs, the best they have who have continually failed in Europe (that's if they even good enough to reach Europe).
So to progress we are getting players who can't cut it at that level. Strange!
Now many will point to the board and yes they have a responsibility, but this wasn't our policy before RD came. This is HIS idea because this is what he did in Norway.
So his idea is because it worked there it will work here. Wrong!
This is not Norway he would have been under no pressure there to make the CL. A different story here. In fact he was lauded in Norway for what he achieved yet didn't make the CL.
I would welcome the Norwegian chap who posts opinion on this.
28 Aug 2015 20:49:39
Couple of things there Rayman mate, I think there been a change in policy/recruitment a think the business model has changed and they have not bothered to brief us!
Firstly, A think RD is not blameless but not to the point he is getting pillared the now from some, There is real evidence now that he has not been able to bring the calibre of player WGS brought in and even NL was either which to me is now why NL left knowing the further downsizing to take place which is now becoming evident IMO
Secondly, RD at a point last year realised last season he could not "push them" much further towards his fitness targets/expectations and rested on his laurels to an extent contented himself with winning the league knowing he was "in-tune" with the power people at our club!
As for the purchase of Scottish talent I can only presume they now have a long term view of making a team of the best in Scotland with the board in full knowledge that transfer fees are moving away from us
I would also love to hear from Norwegianred too in relation to Molde. A think we will do well to overcome Ajax and the Turks if RD is beating by a Norwegian team fitter than us then he will not need to fly back with the team IMO because the majority will not tolerate that!
Like plenty on here think we are being short changed at board level ATVB JB7
28 Aug 2015 21:28:09
Rayman , I know many Celtic fans who still haven't forgiven Celtic for not signing Fletcher and McCarthy. We have been blamed for letting good young talent leave Scotland . Now Deila is trying to right that wrong bit Celtic is still wrong .
By the way I think Christie is a good one , but I would rather we didn't loan him out
28 Aug 2015 23:09:23
Jamie soz but your wrong, you say calibre of player but these players NL and GS brought to the club didn't cost millions they were 2m players on average and that's what we spending the now on average. I keep saying its not the amount we spend its the choices we make.
Oldbhoy everyone to a man could see that Flectcher McCarthy, McCArthur, Robertson etc would fit in and start straight away. The players we getting now are squad players that's the difference. We letting go the real good 1s but getting the average 1s. Even Gauld slipped thro the net.
29 Aug 2015 00:07:42
Rayman , GS was able to sign VoH, Brown & Naka , NL was able to sign Ledley , Hooper even FF a guarantee you regardless of Bosman's or not none of the players being signed now are on these guys wages!
Do you honestly think with wages and fees having moved north of this & our wages shrinking RD has a chance of signing anyone the calibre of above? I don't so RD IMO is up against it!
29 Aug 2015 01:27:16
Jamie if we signed a Naka tomoz mate they would be on these wages the reason they aren't is because they are average.
I firmly believe either these are his signings, and if they are not as ed suggested then he is a weak manager being thrusted with players of not his choice. Either way he is not good enough for the job.
29 Aug 2015 13:11:23
Rayman your kidding yourself mate if you think they are his signings!
And no we are not getting a Naka because the board are not prepared to pay the going rate for a Naka
The players that a highlighted that were signed by your beloved NL ALL came from England did you not see what RD said about English based players? "when we talk wages to English based championship players they LAUGH at us"
RD has been sat down IMO and told the "template / model" and he took it on that basis of a long term project being 4th or 5th choice for the post and promoted from the assistant post that was to be his!
29 Aug 2015 17:21:24
If they are not his signings then he Is WEAK. For me no self respecting manager should let this happen.
I know this is the norm in Europe with clubs who can spend millions. But we can't so when the the club spend money it should be on a player that he wants.
I just don't believe the likes of Berget, Tonev. Boyata Janko, Baillie etc were bought without the managers consent.
{Ed007's Note - You're still not grasping the set-up are you?}
29 Aug 2015 18:04:07
LOL Ed, Rayman why don't we gie him a brush and ask him to sweep the stadia after the game and make a part of his remit too , If he ain't to busy @ HT he could maybe sell the Bovril & Pies and if there not warm enough well we aw know who can blame for that?
All am asking for him is to get the same fighting chance GS & NL got am convinced more than ever now that NL left due to budget restraint set against fan expectation
28 Aug 2015 19:33:44
What about trying to sign origi on loan from Liverpool? I can't imagine he is going to get much playing time there and we need s powerful CF!
29 Aug 2015 02:42:50
A striker that doesn't score, sounds like our type.
28 Aug 2015 18:18:24
Can anyone explain to this puzzled fan why Kennedy was defending zonal marking when he admitted the system had failed in both games against Malmo. While we are it what IS kennedy's role at Celtic Park? to my mind he got the job out of sympathy because of his bad injury, he had little experience as a coach yet is entrusted setting up our defence in important european games. All 3 coaches Delia, Collins and Kennedy fall well short of what our club needs.
Also some posters now saying "move on, nothing can be done" sorry but that is exactly what Lawwell and the board want all us Celtic fans to simply keep quiet, but keep digging into our pockets for Europa tickets merchandise etc. and if Lawwell sells VVD, or Biton or Johansen "well we need to make up loss of CL revenue" Delia has cost us circa £30m make HIM pay it back NOT us Celtic fans.
Tomorrow, I hope we faithful Celtic fans protest at game and tell board their strategy is a poor one.
28 Aug 2015 18:43:18
Timalloy I have never understood the appointment of Kennedy and have never been a fan of appointing any rookie, to any coaching position at club.
Dont agree with £30m loss that Deila should be made to carry the can though. Lawwell and Park should be held accountable. Its going to take losing league to get shot of these clowns
28 Aug 2015 19:11:37
Don't understand why Kennedy said anything at all. Defence misses Denayer, love big Virgil but feel that Denayer made him look a better player and jury still out on boyata at the moment. Kennedy needs to teach them the basics of how to defend as none of the goals we lost were because of anything complicated
28 Aug 2015 19:26:22
Who are the defensive coaches??D Mcgrain was a great player but surely pi$h as a coach if still there!
28 Aug 2015 20:19:10
Without any disrespect to Kennedy. I admire the fact he has stayed in the game he loved, but being honest he wasn't in the game long enough to be coaching players on his philosophy. Clearly being playing to much football manager and carrying out a few coaching badges. Personally would like to see a good solid defensive coach with plenty of years experience behind him. Someone with at least a decade worth of experience whos had to defend against quality players than reading it from a text book. I understand wanting to keep vvd in the danger areas it's called a floater everyone else mark up and leave vvd floating in the danger areas to dominate, there is always a man short at a corner. Sometimes think that coaches are blinded by their own ego at coaching.
28 Aug 2015 20:40:53
Dn30, how come when RD is involved it's the boards fault, but when it was NL it's his fault, what's the difference?
28 Aug 2015 21:34:02
We had our defence working well last season . It seems that the lost of Denayer has affected us more than we thought . I am sure Virgil's mind is not on playing for Celtic Nobody can say Virgil's form in Europe has been good either last season or this.
28 Aug 2015 22:37:15
Jbhoy what position are Bolton currently sitting in Championship?.
29 Aug 2015 02:47:25
DN30 what's that got to do with anything?
Lenny hasn't been giving a penny to spend ffs, Ronny's spent more at Celtic than what Lenny's been able to spend at Bolton. Bolton must be about the only club down there so strapped for cash that they aren't spending silly money or any money for that matter. Lenny had a striker partnership up front last year which combined to about the age of 72 in Heskey and Gudjohnson.
Bolton for me is about the worst club Lenny could have chosen to go down there imo, he deserved a better move and with better resources he'd be a great manager down there imo.
29 Aug 2015 09:38:16
Dn30, I don't know or care what position Bolton are in, all I'm saying the criticisms at Lennon, should be levelled at delia, or vice versa, both are or have worked with the same board, with similar restrictions, so if It was NL fault a couple of seasons ago, it's RD fault now, you can't now blame lawell or Desmond.
29 Aug 2015 12:39:12
Jbhoy my main problem with Lennon was tactics and his inexperience. i'm not going to change my view on that issue. However it is a certainty whoever is in charge, has no say in transfer policies and it is effecting quality on pitch. A failing at board and scout level
29 Aug 2015 20:22:31
Yes I agree, manager should always have an input on signings.
28 Aug 2015 18:08:50
Here Ed,
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ATVB JB7
{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate, I'll look into that. (yes)
28 Aug 2015 18:02:31
Hope all our fans that are travelling out to Amsterdam n turkey have a safe one!. can never trust some of those so called fans over there. not trying to be patronising but we all seen what happened last time we wer playn ajax n sum of our fans enjoying a quiet pint!!! Even the corrupt police are against you for nothing!!
Good group. hope we enjoy it more than the qualifiers!
HH
Chris1888
{Ed007's Note - I've been dreading us being drawn against a Turkish side for years.}
28 Aug 2015 19:14:58
Dutch police don't care who they hoover up! A thought a had witnessed the worse police after the Vigo game when they "manhandled" a disabled man at the airport and nearly started a riot!
But the dutch police are something else!
As for the Turks they look mental!
And now reading airfares jumped over 150% after the draw , something should be done about that via ones of these watchdogs
28 Aug 2015 19:38:59
Into the bargaining Istanbul isn't the most stable place at the moment.Im just home from 2 weeks holidays in Turkey but was advised by locals not to travel up to capital.
{Ed007's Note - Ooofft, it sounds like Larkhall. Istanbul is known as The Gateway to Asia where as Larkhall is known as The Sphincter to The Past.}
28 Aug 2015 21:44:39
Why anybody would go on holiday to Turkey is beyond me!
28 Aug 2015 21:44:57
I was in Instanbul some years ago , nothing to do with football and it still appeared to be a mad crazy place with the smell of violence never far away
29 Aug 2015 08:55:27
I love Turkey and it's people, in general it's a lovely place. Spent 2 great weeks there have done numerous times before and will do again.
28 Aug 2015 18:02:01
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28 Aug 2015 16:56:56
When Tommy Gemmel nipped in and kicked thon Racing Clubber in the haw maws I nearly died laffin. This is of no relevance other than it evokes memories of a time of mirth.
28 Aug 2015 16:48:40
So the draw is a tough one, the Turks have spent and will spend more before the end of the window, Ajax are a class above us even if most won't admit it, don't know much about Molde. This is going to very hard to progress. Unless we go out and spend some money as you have all been saying a striker, centre half and a left back.
But it is not going to happen I have stopped believing in the board and what they say they stand for. Think they are nothing but liers and cheats who have brought our club to its knees in terms of what we can achieve on the pitch and good fans like me and all of you they are making us stop believing in our club and I just think that is shameful they should be chased but again that won't happen because the hold they have over us financially.
I'm fed up and feeling really low about our football club a way I have never felt before it's just stale.
Sorry rant over
28 Aug 2015 17:57:31
The one thing that is clear is the board will always buy a player of a lower standard than the one they sell. VVD is an exception to that but I suppose they may have made a mistake there!
28 Aug 2015 18:52:04
We've been a lot lower in our history than we are now. And let's not kid ourselves Celtic have never been big spenders.
28 Aug 2015 19:13:28
We will get players in on loan on the last day of the window as normal.
28 Aug 2015 19:14:23
The saving grace is that a couple of the best 3rd placed teams make it through as well I think. The downside is that you need to earn points to be one of them.
28 Aug 2015 16:01:10
Going for young Ryan Christie makes no sense to me we have a pool of midfielders in the squad who makes these decisions at Celtic stevie wonder? need a striker a new centre half when Virgil leaves plus left back were jus going stale n the fans no happy which will show on attendances next couple o month come on Celtic show a bit appetite n try appease the faithful n spend some money n bid for higher calibre player
29 Aug 2015 07:35:03
Even the great Stevie would wonder how in the name of the old gods and the new, did Ambrose ever make it. :)
And he could write us a few songs.
Win win.
28 Aug 2015 15:55:36
I'm in a catch 22 here it costs us bhoys down south a few quid to come and watch the Celtic especially euro nights as we have to take time off work , I don't know what to do I want to buy the home game ticket's for me and my bhoy but don't want to give the message this year that all is OK , the board will never spend money if mugs like me keep spending
28 Aug 2015 16:34:12
Similar position here. I think the best way would be a full house with vocal demonstration. Signs placards flags banners whatever.
28 Aug 2015 17:03:57
Is there any English affiliation of clubs/supporters who could do that en masse when renewal time comes around .?
28 Aug 2015 20:59:36
I know what you mean op. I can't get over Tuesday . Still hurting . Hard living in England and seeing all the millions they have to spend . Problem this time is I can't see a light at end of tunnel. I had season ticket for 2 years , too expensive to attend every game . The games I wanted to ie European games always cost more . I know that sounds like I'm a big game fan but when it was costing an extra 150 quid to go what would anyone do. I love Celtic but currently I just don't know where we can go . I can see us falling of the football landscape , I try to defend every time down here but it's getting harder. Tuesday night has nearly killed my faith. I don't know the answer , I wish I did
29 Aug 2015 07:38:13
It's blowing in the wind made. Blowing in the wind.
But not of change.
More of, here we go again type, as per.
You know? The Celtic way.
28 Aug 2015 15:42:48
Just turned on BT to see if there was a game on. There is. Us v Malmo :(
There is no escaping it. :(
Another chance to watch a team frozen in headlights like wee rabbits. Wee pink ones. Aw fluffy and terrified. Bless.
28 Aug 2015 15:21:04
Lawwell & Co won't invest money until we reach the Champions League. Do they not realise that if they invested money then we would have a chance of getting there? It's the same bollox year after year, no investment and then they're disappointed when we don't reach the holy grail. In the words of Einstein, "The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results."
28 Aug 2015 15:40:53
Completely agree bestybhoy I do buy into the idea of getting young players in with talent from Scotland. Gms, Armstrong, Allan and possibly christie all have a great bundle of talent for the "future". We need a good bit of investment before these games even once every 3 years whip out 10 million for say 3 players in areas we need progressed. The likes of the young scottish lads will gain experience from this year and last year to be better prepared for the challenges that face then in Europe, however we need to invest in players with experience and ability to help drive us onto the champions league to give our young guys the experience to make them cl players.
28 Aug 2015 16:02:00
I don't buy in to the same old reason we get year in year out that we can't bring in players. We have a scouting system they must have 1000's of players on file and 100's of those would improve our team I am sure and at least 100 of those would not cost an arm and a leg for every position so why do they Keep on coming out with this same old drivel year in year out we tried to bring in X,Y ,Z but they did not want to come or contract difficulties held it up just fed up with it. If they are going to do the same thing this window please come out with some other reason this time fed up listening to the same thing PL would be as well recording those reasons and playing them at the end of each window
28 Aug 2015 16:19:45
They follow the ares fae elbow business model.
Hiw to stay mediocre but still ensure dividends and bonuses for preferential share owners and Lawells bonus .
28 Aug 2015 16:22:08
Well put. Both Einstein and you.
28 Aug 2015 16:51:31
Surely they would get bigger dividends and bonuses if we qualified for the group stages of the CL.I don't understand how it is PL or DD's interest for us to fail.
28 Aug 2015 19:15:12
It wouldn't have surprised me if we never spent a penny even if we had qualified
28 Aug 2015 19:15:52
Even when we get in we don't spend any money so that's that theory out the window.
28 Aug 2015 19:30:55
Why kid our selfs would we really have improved the squad any better than we will now b4 the window closes? No it would be the same shitty investment but a different excuse as usual! We just need to hope RD can sign the right young CF and develop because we ain't spending!
28 Aug 2015 21:49:53
Just in case some people forget , we are not buying lumps of beef . The players we want to buy may not want to come to Scotland , so we might have a problem
28 Aug 2015 14:51:44
Exluding the disappointing week we've had. Got to say i'm quite happy with the draw we've got. Yes it's not quite as challenging as playing real Madrid or psg; but I think ajax and fenbarche will provide good opposition. If we could invest in one or two players of a higher standard and give these two a game, might I even say we get through this group (we as fans should expect that even with the current standard, don't let our expectations drop) we could building on the foundations of a team that with experience could do us more proud in Europe.
Also to note what's your opinions guys. I understand our business model we want to keep our costs low so we don't end up like that other mob. I understand as well we are trying to find talents. But with a 22 million pound prize would it not be better that at least every 3 years we take a gamble and invest 10 million prior to qualification rounds and have talent capable of getting us through. Before critics kick off with it being a risk. Yes it is but at least it's only once every three years and it will bring back the fans to celtic park. The reasons the numbers and dying is because the fans aren't getting from the club what we want each season.
28 Aug 2015 15:46:18
It is a big risk mate, but so is repeatedly buying sub standard players. The risk there is that if the trend continues then how many bums will be on seats. There's a lot of people going off on one about it now but it's been the same since the Motherwell game a few years back with Lennons "this is only the beginning". We haven't signed a real decent player for that long and every transfer window we get ourselves all built up for it only to be let down.
Also, I admire your optimism but it'll take a hell of a lot more than 3 players to get us competing with Ajax and Fenerbahce ( with Van Persie, Nani and apparently now Markovic).
Final point is everyone keeps saying we can't compete because of EPL, Spanish, German tv deals and sponsorship (fair enough) but how on earth can teams from Switzerland, Austria and Turkey still manage to outspend us and survive. Some of the so called big teams there have average crowds of 20'000 - 30'000 and still spend half decent money on a couple of quality players to compliment their squads.
I'll never stop supporting Celtic (God knows I made it through the Wayne Biggins and Carl Muggleton days) but I just wish that for once in a while we could speculate to accumulate and bring a bit of excitement back to the place
28 Aug 2015 16:13:54
Sums up a lot of the points what I'm getting at Gary. There is other leagues out there managing to compete. Zagreb are in the CL, Malmo and to be honest a few teams I'm not even familiar with. As a celtic fan I personally feel as a club were much superior to these kind of teams. We "should" of been laughing drawing teams like Malmo. Personally I thought we would have destroyed them within 10 minutes at celtic park I was certain we were at the level we should have been playing at. However foot of the gas and unfortunately I might have been wearing green and white spectacles. Realistically we've been deteriorating in the best part of 5 years. Is Aberdeen and hearts improved or have we deteriorated that bad so that they look as though they can compete? We need to set the standards higher, our football under Diela I think is a better style however with the wrong players. I think genuinely if we splashed a bit more cash upped our standards it would bring back the fans we should be beating teams like dundee, St Johnstone and hamilton by nothing less than 5 goals. If we were regular cl team for a few seasons 4/5 in a row a last 16 maybe 1 season a europa league spot after the CL groups then I personally think we'd attract league sponsors interested on how were doing.
28 Aug 2015 16:33:24
I wonder if Lawwell will start spending money if we are challenged by Sevco.
I know we don't really want to admit it, but the odds are they will be promoted at the end of the season, and I assume they will try to spend big to show us up.
It's bad enough that we won't spend to try and get into the Champions League, but would the board gamble on letting Sevco overtake us.
People may think it's won't happen, but if the board won't spend when there is all that money at stake, are they really going to start splashing the cash just to keep us ahead of our rivals.
28 Aug 2015 16:53:31
If PL just came out with answers I think the fans would be more understanding. It's his smug attitude that's driving us insane. He fills us false ambition with if we need a £6 millions strikers who's worth it we'll get them then hands us cifti, who I recon will provide in the SPL but isn't anywhere near £6 million worth of talent. Why are players not wanting to come what kind of an offer did he make, was it 12000 to a player who's been offered 19000 in the championship if so can we not just up it to get the player we need. We should be demanding answers.
28 Aug 2015 22:01:13
There are clubs in the Champions League that are a surprise. There are also clubs in the Europa league that we would expect to be in the Champions League , in fact we meet two of them . There are many clubs not in Europe who have already exited Europe. Unless u support a top club from the four main leagues it's not easy qualifying That doesn't say that we shouldn't have qualified as having of our team played badly got to the play-off ties we should have got through. Unfortunately most
28 Aug 2015 14:27:12
Yet again humiliation in CL, our club gambles every year; don't invest in our squad and 'hopes' we get the big cheque. I'm getting increasingly frustrated with PL etc. and their complete lack of ambition, they'll happily take our money and put in the bank and rely on all of us renewing our season tickets and buying kits. What do we have to do to break this cycle?
28 Aug 2015 14:15:45
Can we please put a line under the negativity on this forum.
Granted we were sh*te on Tuesday night but moaning isn't going to change anything, we need to move on as whether we like it or not this is the situation we are in for this season.
We have been drawn in a group against 3 teams that wouldn't be regarded as mugs in Europe.
We can respond by putting out a statement and finishing top of this group.
In terms of coefficient we will lose the dreadful 10/11 campaign, hopefully we can replace it with a minimum of last 16 place which would give us 7 coefficient points and if we qualify next year for CL then we will be pot 3 and ready to kick on.
Lets keep the faith.
28 Aug 2015 14:35:18
And how exactly are we going to move on??
We have a $hit defence, which is going to get worse once VVD is away. We don't have the right striker and we have a CEO who is running club into the ground. HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO FINISH 1ST???
28 Aug 2015 15:18:48
I think a lot of fans are finding it more difficult to move on as there is a realisation that maybe the managers philosophy and ideas are not working as well as expected?
Towards the end of last season, everything looked promising - although we missed out on the treble - we were playing well and had added two bright young players to the squad.
This season has seen us lose very cheap goals in several matches and the team (who are supposed to be in the best condition of their careers) look hesitant, pedestrian and confused; resulting in another CL exit at the hands of a seemingly lesser team?
There is doubt among the support and indeed some of the players and we are about to lose yet another big player.
28 Aug 2015 14:15:28
A lot of flak and kaffuffle about RD saying the players looked scared etc.
I hear the players are non too pleased.
Well, here's the term every tim I know is using to describe them the other night.
Total Shitebags.
And please Celtic players don't start talking to the press about how your going to do this and do that.
Just shut up and do your talking on the pitch you bunch of pussies.
.you owe us.
28 Aug 2015 14:49:29
Add Ronny to your list of pussies he needs to stop telling us what's went wrong and we'll have to learn from it pish and actually start doing it. How about starting with telling the goalie to command his 6 yard box and another novelty tell defenders to pick up a man at a corner.
28 Aug 2015 15:50:34
It's Groundhog Day, every day.
Lucky us.
Cheapskate Spivs running board means all money will be utilised to ensure Lawell's bonus is tip top.
Meanwhile we get dross and faith. You can stuck both if those right up your bonus padded arse Lawell.
You should be ashamed to take a bonus mate. I would love to know what the criteria for it is?
Money in the bank? Hmmmm
28 Aug 2015 14:10:44
Can't see anything but 3rd place at best! We don't have the quality to get through that group! And molde will be no mugs! Unless we some how magically sign 3 players of a decent pedigree,left back centre half and striker! Then be prepared for a few more nites like Tuesday! Even a decent creative midfielder wouldn't go a miss! But we know there's more chance of Scott Allan signing for sevco in January than that happening
28 Aug 2015 13:37:31
Group A is complete: Ajax, Celtic, Fenerbahce and Molde
http://goo.gl/yvDzRu
28 Aug 2015 13:54:58
Easy group for them getting us. I wonder is Bonus Bhoy Lawell will spend any money to prevent total humiliation?
Not if it reduces his wedge I bet.
28 Aug 2015 14:18:06
Knowing us we will beat Ajax and fenerbache then get pumped by Molde in final game that we probably need to win to get through lol
28 Aug 2015 13:30:55
Final point today lol. my 2 boys aged 10 and 8 went to a football camp over the summer. This actually saddened me approx 30 kids on a daily basis and could wear suitable clothing to play football in fairenough right? On one day alone there were 12 kids with Barca tops on? Nearly half in years gone by I rreckon it would have been half and half Celtic and Rangers. This is the problem with money in the game. The champions league is brainwashing the future fans of our team and many many others in countries around Europe dare I even say the world. In many ways I refer the Europa league slightly more evenly matched and teams generallyt without he mega money
28 Aug 2015 13:52:49
Not sure they're brainwashed mate it's just a sign of the times. There are much more appealing leagues. Scottish kids turn on the tv and you have motd on with packed grounds and quality players. Then you have sportscene. Same for La Liga. I remember Frankie Boyles show about the independence referendum and he got a glaswegian boy up, asked him who he supported. Arsenal. Whos you're wee team he then asked. Celtic.
28 Aug 2015 13:54:03
Tbh my little girl has a barca and a real Madrid top but no celtic top because there are too many nut cases out there
28 Aug 2015 13:13:58
Everyone, Crowd numbers, season tickets etc. does anyone think that the crowd levels have went down since the Tories came into power? The reason I ask is I have had a season ticket or shared one with my brother since 2001. After losing a few jobs through redundancy and unable to get anything that paid decent I went self employed. I think that the jobs available these days do not allow disposable income for football albeit a few big games per year maybe? Further to this the working week traditionally was Mon-Fri right? I cannot think of anyone I know who works or traditional Mon-Fri 9-5 anymore. Most jobs on the lower pay scale include Sat and Sunday or 5 days over 7 etc. Maybe I am wrong but odd days working have made me not renew so how many other fans are in the same boat across the UK and Eire?
{Ed007's Note - What Tories do you mean, the government or the ones in our boardroom?}
28 Aug 2015 13:23:31
Ed007 both tbh lol. In that group I include media in particular TV etc
{Ed007's Note - Nothing's going to change until there is change in the boardroom.}
28 Aug 2015 13:30:05
Crowd numbers are down because we have to endure the same penny pinching piss poor football every year. We have a board that is so short sighted it's bordering on criminal. Until Celtic can up their game and take a fair crack at Champions League football then they will never get the fans back. Personally, I gave my season ticket up because it was taking me a whole day to go to a Celtic game which I thought wasn't fair on my family. Even now it would take something pretty special for me to make the long trek to Glasgow. I can't see anything special coming up in the foreseeable future.
28 Aug 2015 12:56:17
Not posted in ages. Really happy with the draw today, and some exciting games IMO.
I am also really sick of all the negativity with regards to Ronny. I think he will turn Celtic into a classy European team but revolutions do not happen overnight. If we will not spend then we have to hope I am right and Ronny can deliver
Also many fans forget Ronny does not sign the players so it must be difficult for him to get his ideas across to players he couldn't speak to before they signed.
28 Aug 2015 13:08:05
A manager needs more stamp on what comes in the door. It's simple. He knows the kind of player he needs in his mind and i'm not sure we have it after a year. One up in Europe and he's got LG and NC to pick from. Says it all. CFC managers (or coaches) have their hands tied with the set up, 'policy and structure.
I actually think now RD was brought in because he has shown relative success on a shoestring budget.
I'm still hopeful he can turn things around and get us into the promised land consistently. Hopefully he will have learned a bit himself as well as about the players after the Malmo tie.
28 Aug 2015 13:58:22
If he hasn't the balls to stand up to Bonus Bhoy then he ain't the man for the job. We know why Bonus Bhoy wants to spend feck all. He gets his big brown envelope and we get a big brown fat shite of a team.
28 Aug 2015 14:57:35
And how exactly would you expect RD to stand up to him!? Pull his hair, swat knot' his tie and demand he hand over his lunch money?
I can tell you're frustrated MP from the things you post but I certainly don't think it's a case of RD not having the balls to stand up to PL.
28 Aug 2015 15:51:20
Totally JimTim its like in a job. You have a group of employees. You find a cracking guy who would do a brilliant job for u but your boss says no to paying said employee and extra 250 quid a week note then the other boys. You highlight that if he hires this guy productivity will likely increase and he will make the business more long term. You current boss still says no we will just hire another 10 apprentices and hope one becomes as good as the guy u have identified. You know your boss is wrong and the team you have are decent. Do you go and stand up for the new guy or just soldier on?
28 Aug 2015 12:53:54
Tough draw that is but 2 'glamour' ties and a tricky Scandinavian team we will need to invest to avoid finishing bottom!
28 Aug 2015 13:43:58
I can't see us finishing in the top 2. This is not a knee jerk reaction to the Malmo game, we haven't been impressive in quite some time against decent sides and there are at least 2 very decent teams in our group. If our team couldn't cope with the pressure of Malmo how on earth are they going to cope with REALLY passionate fans like Fenerbahce and Ajax? And Molde won't lie down either. Call me a cynic if you wish, I'm just saying it as I see it. Our best chance will be if one or more of the other teams choose not to take the Europa League seriously.
28 Aug 2015 12:50:16
Ajax, Fenerbache and Molde.
Some good ties let's see how far we have come over the past few years when we reaquiant ourselves with Ajax.
Fenerbache will be a great atmosphere as they are a real passionate bunch and maybe a little hairy going over there.
Molde have been spoken about the past few years people always looking to avoid them in Champions league playoffs.
Will be difficult but let's hope we get a few new recruits and get our dodgy defence sorted and we may just get a little run in this comp.
28 Aug 2015 13:03:05
A great draw quality teams with Ajax and Ferbache playing before very passionate fans. This will be good experience for our players .both of the above clubs and their fans would have expected to be playing in the Champions League . We certainly have quality and skill to look forward to.
28 Aug 2015 13:19:04
On present European form team will be lucky to accumulate 6 points in this group.
28 Aug 2015 12:46:01
Well that seems like a good draw for is I would expect 12 points from our group
28 Aug 2015 12:53:20
FENERBACHE have signed van persie and nani. its a tough draw
28 Aug 2015 12:57:36
I expect 5 haha, all coming at home!
28 Aug 2015 12:46:01
Not a bad group, fenerbahce will be good as they've got some really good players. Bit different as well. Their fans are a bit nuts though.
28 Aug 2015 12:14:58
I'm usually an optimist on here but after the other night I'm coming round to some of your ways of thinking.
I still think Ronny is the man for the job, yes he takes some flak from Malmo but to me the players just did not stand up when it counted. Far too many were hiding. If they played to what they can then there shouldn't have been any problem with that mob. Getting caught out on set pieces was just naïve! I like buying the best Scottish players, I want us to have a Scottish identity! I want the kids coming through (won't happen overnight especially with the expectations of winning week in week out).
The dead wood has to go, I'd rather free them than have them sit on the bench!
However money has to be spent. It's too late now but it had to be spent before the qualifiers. This sitting about waiting to see whether we get in to the CL is ludicrous! Now whether this is about players waiting to see whether we do or don't I don't know. DD has to either put up or get out. We have some of the wealthiest men in Britain owning our club but when was the last time they put their money into the club instead of just pocketing. I personally don't blame PL. I think he's just a business puppet doing the job he's told(albeit doing it well).
We've been crying out for a left back for years. Izzy is fine bombing up the wing in Scotland but does not have the awareness of a decent defender. We've known this for years but yet nothing has been done. We do need another striker. I'm a fan of Griffiths and I'm happy to give Cifti time to settle but I still think another one for competition is needed. We need a playmaker, someone that can see a pass AND score goals. We sold Matthews and brought in Janko another player with potential. Again this is fine but knowing Lustig is a sick note I think we should have had experience brought in for cover.
I also understand that we need to buy young and hope to develop and sell on. It's a good business plan but we need some old experienced heads in there when the big games come up. People that have played in them and know how to deal with the expectations.
I saw a post earlier where ed007 has said about getting rid of the sh*t which I completely agree with, with the exception of Forrest. I'd give him another year to prove his fitness and to find a final ball(which seems to be our problem throughout the team at the moment IMO).
If we get 8m for Van Dijk I'd take it and run. He is not the player people make out he is.
On a side note I've not seen so many sevconians post on social media since the oldco existed!
28 Aug 2015 13:01:13
Not to bad a draw, I don't fancy fernabache. Emineke couldn't get a game for them and was loaned out, so must have a strong strikeforce.
28 Aug 2015 11:28:00
Think young Christie is a great young player! Would be happy for us to get him then loan him back! But if this is the kind of signings we're looking at leading up to the window closing after that pish on Tuesday then It ain't good enough! When will the tickets go on sale for the EL games ED? Not that I'll be buying any! Just want to know do u think it will be before the window shuts? Just interested to see what fantasy names we'll be linked with if it is! Lawell will need to be circulating a few bullshit stories to get the tickets sold!! I don't expect anybody of any great standard coming in! VVD will be off and we'll get a loan signing in from scandanavia!!
28 Aug 2015 13:24:21
The window closes on Tuesday , I cannot see many tickets sold before that .
I don't understand how a Celtic fan can fault D D from issuing good news bulletins , as after all our fan forums and the main stream media certainly post a negative side to everything Celtic .
Let us be at least positive .
28 Aug 2015 10:00:04
Some really good teams in the europa potential groups
Ajax.Warsaw. sion
Dortmund. Monaco. Partizan Belgrade
Shalke. Fenerbeche rosenberg
28 Aug 2015 10:51:50
We've got a sweep in work. I've got Marseille, Lokomotiv Moscow and Sion.
28 Aug 2015 14:36:22
Close.
28 Aug 2015 20:38:59
Haha just about
28 Aug 2015 08:01:27
I've already heard a few people saying Virgil should stay after Southampton's defeat in the EL. That's the kind of daft attitude a lot of our fans have. On what planet is playing 6 games in the EL, maybe 8 or 10 if we're very lucky, more appealing than playing against the likes of Aguero, Rooney, Benteke, Kane, Costa and Sanchez most weeks? Then a lot of folk bang on about going down south and settling for a "relegation battle" or "relegation dogfight" but use the CL as the best example of our clubs appeal. Celtic getting into the group stages of the CL is the perfect description of a relegation dogfight! He gave us 3 good seasons and if he leaves he's moving on to better things and I, for one, wish him all the best.
28 Aug 2015 12:45:17
I don't blame any player for wanting to leave celtic. Total lack of ambition at club at moment
28 Aug 2015 13:26:40
Surely we are now getting to a strange position where Celtic fans think we are not good enough to have any player in our team
28 Aug 2015 14:16:34
Obviously we love our club and want the best players in the hoops but the reality is that, with less money, no title challenge/old firm games and serious doubts over CL qualification each season we are not as attractive a prospect as we were even during the WGS years. For a player who doesn't support Celtic, our biggest appeal is our recent record of selling talent to the EPL and CL football is a bonus. I don't like that one bit believe me but it's the truth.
28 Aug 2015 01:52:17
Looks like big Virgil has kicked his last ball in Europe after Southampton are dumped out of the Europa League by Danish minnows FC Midjyelland , suit yerself big man!!
28 Aug 2015 03:13:48
Aye mate he'll be gutted, with his wages probably going up to go up to about £30K a week, weekly games against Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Everton, Man City, Liverpool etc to come up instead of St Johnstone, Inverness, Motherwell, Ross County every week I'm sure he'll be gutted at missing out on those 6 Europa League games we've got coming up like he played in last year in most likely a half empty stadium at home each time.
28 Aug 2015 08:28:52
Signing for Southampton will certainly up his salary. It will also give him a chance to shine in the EPL if he is as good as many of us think and obviously he feels.
Not too many of our "Big Stars" have signed for the smaller clubs down south and progressed to the Man utds and Chelsea's of the EPL.
28 Aug 2015 08:32:52
Swedish minnows,Danish minnows.All the same to me.HA HA.
28 Aug 2015 13:28:39
How long do you think Virgil will keep his place in the Southampton team . If he plays as he has played in most games this season , he won't last until Halloween .
28 Aug 2015 14:56:26
Keep a bit if class FFS. Let the Hun press run him down. To try and get us less money. Would you be saying that if he decided to stay.
Aw this turning on players who are too good for us is sad as fuck.
28 Aug 2015 17:07:43
Magicpole in one of your posts today you used the term shitebags regarding the team ,yet you have a go at old bhoy for his opinion on vvd.Where is the class there that you asked old bhoy to show.killy.
28 Aug 2015 00:28:28
What I want for my money is a celtic team that should be beating teams like Malmö to qualify for the champions league decent football and some cash being spent in decent players the same as everyone else thanks for your feedback though on another note what kind of atmosphere are you expecting on Saturday?
{Ed007's Note - Didn't you expect a team last season that could compete for the Scottish Cup and should beat a team like ICT?
On Saturday it all depends if the Green Brigade can somehow entice the rest of the stadium to create an atmosphere between their visits to the snack stalls, taking stupid pics or Tweeting some pi$h just so everyone they know can how good a fan they they are and that they're at the game. It doesn't matter that they sit there with their phone or tablet and miss the game - EVERYONE knows you're there, you're such a good Tim (puke) - btw if you take a tablet to a football match you deserve de-balled and sent to sit with the half and half scarf sell out panty wetters, they need to open a section for these type of day trippers and do away with the stadium wi-fi. If you're sitting at CP tweeting and taking selfies during the game then I'm sorry, you're a knob, in fact I'm not sorry, you're just a knob full-stop.
It's embarrassing that we need the GB to make an atmosphere, we go on about the great atmosphere at CP, well what about the atmosphere for 90 mins in Malmo? That itself put CFC fans to shame, watch videos of teams from Greece and Turkey, some of the Italian grounds as well, look at Dortmunds Südtribüne for atmosphere, when you look at it we really aren't all that, the fans are living off past glory and CL nights, other fans back their team in any game while the majority inside CP think that the GB are there to entertain them rather than inspire.
If you think the atmosphere is flat on Saturday what's stopping you and your family getting up to start a song? What do you do to help the atmosphere that you seem to care about so strongly? If the atmosphere is flat then you're as much a part of that than everyone else in the stadium.}
28 Aug 2015 03:18:46
Yeah I find it strange how flat things have got.
Watching from afar and being used to Celtic park rocking not only on European nights but weekends as well, I can't believe how far the atmosphere has dropped.
There could be many variables to this as you mention ed social media which has consumed our entire existence seems people's perceptions of us means more than what we actually believe in.
Could also be the lack of entertainment on offer and if this is the case how do we as a club address this, couple of creative types that can actually take a man on and turn him inside out. A show boater who gets you there to see his skills alone or maybe instead of wasting money on players who are not pulling their weight try out more of our youth give us something to be proud of a few young boys that instead of being pandered with the lure of the EPL they are happy to play for the club.
If and when VVD goes then let's play O'Connell for the full season it's the only way we are ever going to blood new players.
I have never had the privilege to see the GB's displays in person but I never seen the need for such a thing when the whole stadium used to get right into it. Chants would start from any corner or any tier of the ground, so it's sad to think we no depend solely on a band of supporters to spark some life into the rest. Perhaps it should be the team you pay to watch that excites you that much to start you chanting.
{Ed007's Note - We definitely need 1 or 2 players to get the fans buzzing, you're spot on. Those type of players want decent wages though but surely we can get better value for money than Commons and Forrest.
I like you're O'Connell shout, I'd be happy with that but I stil feel we shoukd have Lustig in the middle, they molly coodle Craig Gordon who missed a game with a stiff neck yet ignore Lustig telling them and saying in public that for his own long term fitness he sees himself as a CB. Let Tierney or Izaguirre compete for LB, Rogic needs games, he's been out a long time so play him and if it doesn't work out punt him but RD has been impressed with him in training.
RD has said he wants a core of 22 players with the squad made up with young players but we have players like Forrest, Boerrigter, Mulgrew, Scepovic, Ambrose and even Stokes now clogging up the 22.
We'll never find out how good our youth players are until they get a chance to show us without the torrent of abuse from the stands every time they make a mistake or misplace a pass, it's all part of their learning curve, let's think back to Larrson's first game.
The GB do a fantastic job but the initial idea was to get the stadium jumping, now we've got doughballs sitting in CP watching the GB rather than the match.}
28 Aug 2015 04:39:30
I watched the development match yesterday against Hibs and was very impressed with some of they young players on show. Especially Nesbitt and Thomson who I thought were outstanding. The question I ask is what happens to these lads between the under 20s and first team. Why can't they make the step up? It's surely time we put emphasis on getting these boys a real taste of first team games and stop buying dead wood in the transfer market!
28 Aug 2015 08:34:20
heres a strange one! - I agree with you all- -Ibrox was the same over last few years (wonder why?) but no atmosphere other than the singing dervishes in the Family Stand.
Things are getting a lot better now (wonder why?) - answer I would suggest, is give the fans something to shout about & they won't be long in making a noise.
Even the social media crowd (agree with Ed07 - these should be banned)
28 Aug 2015 08:34:30
Just in response to youth players getting a chance, I get annoyed every week at players like stokes, scepovic, ambrose, mulgrew are on the bench. For a start none of them have the ability to make any impact so are useless on the bench. How often do you see a young boy from killie or Inverness come on as a sub, run flat out for 20 minutes and cause problems like a sub should do. Instead we have like for like replacements whose only difference from the player that they are replacing is they are a worse player who is not up to speed. Other than 1 keeper, 1 defender and 1 attacking option the other 4 players on the bench should be youngsters chomping at the bit!
I thought Ronnys mentality was all about getting a young team? Why not use our youth team rather than signing youngsters from elsewhere?
28 Aug 2015 13:31:59
We could have signed Van Persie , and guaranteed Champions League football .
Oh sorry Fenebache tried that and failed .
27 Aug 2015 23:59:39
Celtic supporters are right to criticise the board and rightly so it seems it's all about the shareholders, but we too are the shareholders and we deserve a better team to go to watch, our current manager is no good end of, our players aren't great but they try hard, and they to deserve a good manager as a manager makes all the difference. Malmo squad 3 million ours 20 odd, Malmo 20.000 fans celtic fans millions, Malmo batter us it doesn't add up
{Ed007's Note - So you think the players tried hard in Malmo? Every single one of them was a disgrace to the jersey, some surprised me but others have been shysters in the Hoops for far too long. These frauds and conmen love the idea, the fame and the money, of playing for the greatest club and supporters in the world but they don't want to work for the privilege.}
28 Aug 2015 00:42:15
Ed in fairness I can't disagree with you, but the players are being let down. My point is if they had proper direction from the manager there's a chance we wouldn't think of them the way you say, that said alot of what you say is correct
{Ed007's Note - What if some of the players just can't do what the manager is asking of them though? It's a huge difference from listening to the coaches in training and taking that on board during game, some of our players have been trudging along at the same level for years. Players like Mulgrew, Forrest, Commons and even Izaguirre are far too long in the tooth and set in their ways to change their game, when they step over that touchline at CP they revert to what they've known for years.
Nir Bitton has improved and progressed more under RD in a year than James Forrest has in seven years and Mulgrew has went backwards which I didn't think was possible and the list goes on. Most of the old guard are struggling with the new regime, the new ideas and the questions that are being asked of them personally. All the clique that had an easy life suddenly are being asked to work hard, learn and improve, it's their egos that are stopping it happening, they think that they've been there and done so have a right to play, perhaps the same players attitudes is a reason their career down south didn't work out, there is no excuse for an unprofessional attitude and as I have said for years even before RD and his techniques were brought in, we might not be as good as Ronaldo but there's nothing stopping up being as fit and focused as Ronaldo and that attitude is down the to players.
Too many of the old guard and their egos are still hanging around the place, if you're not willing to give your all then get out the door, there's no place for you at CFC and you don't deserve to be there.}
28 Aug 2015 00:57:47
This is why I enjoy listening to your posts ED. 100% truth the way real celtic fans want hear. True to the core. Most don't like it but it's the truth
{Ed007's Note - Thanks very much for that, that's appreciated. I'm not saying I'm 100% right but I always post my honest, if not always popular, opinion. I put my point across to try and at least make others think about things. If people want to disagree with me fine but at least try and back it up with facts.}
28 Aug 2015 02:10:43
I don't understand how you ( ED ) can complain about the lack of atmosphere and "day tripper " fans at Celtic park , then say these frauds and con men love the idea of playing for the fame, money and the "greatest club and supporters in the world "
This is what's wrong with Celtic at the minute , too many green tinted goggles too see that CFC have become a mediocre club that struggles to get a full-house every other week and can no longer attract the players that it once could . We all must realise that this club has become a stepping stone for players to come to impress other clubs to then move on and further their careers . This is the blueprint which Lawell and co are completely happy with because it's a money making system and the fans buy into it year after year . Celtic have allowed the quality to slip over the last few years especially since Rangers went down , the board know that even if they spend 20m the best they can hope for is the group stage of the CL and a domestic treble . It's not worth the Risk from there point of view , I firmly believe that if Rangers never went down Ronny Diela would never have been given the job in the first place , he was a cheap and easy option for a board with no real ambitions and a big name would have demanded big signings unlike Diela , So continue to claim that CFC are the best club with the best fans but in reality it couldn't be further from the truth.
{Ed007's Note - The Celtic supporters are the best in the world, the day trippers are just part of the modern game that real supporters need to tolerate while they clamour to be seen at the glamour games, like a poor mans Rod Stewart.
There's CFC supporters and there's CFC consumers, I'll leave it to all of you to decide what category you fall into and what group you think Pedro and his cabal want in the stadium. The day trippers are consumers not the players, theturn up for a CL match their pal got them a ticket for, their first game since the last must go to game they wangled a ticket for. The frauds and conmen are the low standard players out there stealing a wage.
The harcore 30/35k hardcore fans, the same constant figure over the years are the best ssupporters in the world, they turn up no matter what, how many tourists are there week in and week out, they'll not even turn up for the EL because it's not cool enough.
CFC and Pedro like to project a big club image but have continuously failed to back it up with investment to cement our position as one.
Where's the Wanyama and Forster money, where's the 'record breaking' New Balance money, where will the VVD money go? £5 million for Hooper the reputed £3 million for Ledley, it goes on and on, and yet John Park didn't think Finboggason was worth circa £3.5 million but Scepovic was 2 million and I think higher wages. Don't you see anything wrong with that? We've been lucky with quality like VVD and Johansen for the £2.5 million bracket, bargains like Armstrong, GMS, Wanyama and Bitton but where's the money for 1 or 2 special players, a couple of signings to give the place a lift and give the support something... remember Guidetti coming in last year and this year we have Scott Allan, an average player that a team in the second division were desperate to sign. WOW! He's no better than what we have in our youth in Aiden Nesbitt and it's yet another signing forced on our manager who only spoke to Allan for the first time on the day he signed.
We've spent and wasted time and money scouting players only to see them go elsewhere so either they weren't good enough, they refused the move or we weren't willing to pay the money. What do you think the most realistic and common reason is?
If they weren't good enough then why were they even worth John Collins, John Kennedy or RD going to watch them - who recommended them to the point our management team felt they were worth travelling to see?
If they refused the move that's just the chance you take but if we didn't offer enough money we're back to who to blame, are we destined to always looking for the cheapest option - who did we sign instead of Steven Fletcher all those years ago?
If you want me to take you seriously you need to get over this infatuation to drag a lower league club into it, Manchester Utd, Man City or Arsenal fans rarely worry about teams like Leeds.
Sorry for that rant there, it wasn't all directed at you but can I ask you a serious question, if you don't think CFC are the greatest football club in the world then why do you follow them? That's not a stupid you're not a real supporter blah blah question, I just want to know why you feel like that and has your opinion on it changed over the last couple of years?
I do think it's a bit odd another supporter questiong that I feel so deeply about them to be proud enough to say they are the greatest club in the world.
Never let the bad times allow you to forget the good times.}
28 Aug 2015 02:22:54
One of the worst posts I have ever read
{Ed007's Note - Ooofft ta! (finger) I'll remember that on your next post.....
28 Aug 2015 12:49:42
Was directed @sands opening post. Cheers ed!
{Ed007's Note - I know what you meant mate lol it was just the way the posts came through I thought I'd give you a wee nudge in the ribs. :=D
28 Aug 2015 12:54:13
Lol sound ed no worries mate
28 Aug 2015 13:58:12
Our team didn't perform on Tuesday night, we will all agree that . I think the reason why is because the Malmo manager got his tactics spot on for the night . He had pin pointed our dangerous players and used the right tactics to reduce their effectiveness.
Does that mean Deila is not up for the job . We don't know yet . These things can even to the best of managers . Jock Stein in the European Cup final in 1970 .
We are lucky with the quality of Europa cup games we have coming up . We can look to see if he can out gun the rival managers . It will also be interesting to see if the players can lift themselves and at least come off the pitch tired . Where have all our big finishes gone , when we could score a goal or two in the last fifteen minutes
27 Aug 2015 23:42:21
guys first time poster here.After that debacle of a performance the other night,i fear for the attendance figures for the europa league games,showing half empty stadium not good for attracting new signings,especially with the other lot now getting 50 thousand for there home games ,thoughts.
{Ed007's Note - Here's a thought, why do you care what the other lot do?}
28 Aug 2015 05:46:15
I understand your fears for our team but as the Ed says why are you bothered about that other lot?
Depending on the draw I am confident we will still bring more people to celtic park on europa league night than most others. still gutted were not in the big one though
28 Aug 2015 08:55:06
I don't agree greengenie. Like many of us, I am still hurting from the CL result and was ready to chuck it in. However, it was my own post which perked me back up after I reread it. (standing on terraces getting peed on, dodging bottles and can missiles and watching us hump Leeds at Hampden). I remember standing in the pissing rain, dogging school, to get tickets for big games trudging from Belgrove station in the snaw and wind and standing on terracing watching a variety of entertainers (Jinky, Dixie, Yogi, Buzz Bomb, Henrik, Sutton, Cadette, Brogan, Gemmell. ) cheering every pass, dribble and goal. Blaming the team for not covering Faither when the opposition scored (don't remember that happening too often) I could go on BUT
The point is, I have followed them through thick and thin and in recent times (nature of working abroad at times) went to games when I could. WALK AWAY FROM THAT?. NEVER. Happy with the current management philosophy? NO Do I think boycotting the games will change things? NOT SURE. Do I have the answers? NO but I will continue to support my team.
27 Aug 2015 23:31:31
We certainly aren't MILES ahead of Aberdeen or Hearts this season imo. It won't be long until the penny really drops with some of our support I feel, $hit is about to hit the fan with us domestically I fear and only then it seems that fans will begin to sit up and take notice.
The board have reduced us to no more than a mediocre average side, a team which will most definitely be worked hard to keep on top of both Aberdeen and Hearts who are growing in confidence as the season goes, believe it or not but those players and management behind closed doors WILL have a belief this year from within and who could blame them. I have never seen a Celtic side so poor in all my life supporting Celtic and it's about to get a whole lot poorer with the sale of VVD and then Aberdeen and Hearts will really start to believe.
We had VVD and Denayer last season at CB, one of the best CB partnerships I've had the joy of watching, now we could be looking at a Boyata/Mulgrew or Boyata/Ambrose partnership, has that sank in for folk yet? I highly doubt we will bring in better CBs than VVD and Denayer this season anyway.
The Board/Scouts/Lawwell/Desmond/Ronny Deila whoever it is responsible or collectively have in some way or another imo seen us regress MASSIVELY over the last couple years.
3 players from Dundee Utd - GMS, Armstrong and Cifcti
4 players from Hibs - Brown, Griffiths, Scott Allan and Stokes
1 player from Aberdeen - Mulgrew
Most of these players make up our first team squad on match days, can we honestly say these players will help us coast our way to the title when Hearts and most definitely Aberdeen are going to put us under some pressure this season?
I honestly couldn't say yes. That isn't even adding to the fact Johansen has been more or less terrible this season, Boyata was an unwanted Man City reserve who has looked extremely shaky and error prone, a lot of folk don't like or rate Ambrose(I'm in the minority of being a fan of him at CB), a lot of folk don't rate Izzy anymore and a lot were calling for Mulgrew to play ahead of him in Malmo which as proved was madness. Also Lustig who I think is a great player but his constant injuries mean he more than likely will be out for a lot of the season, I mean he started four league games last season I think with Matthews having to fill in and he was decent player to have at RB. But now Matthews is gone, Fisher has been loaned out and Janko is still as yet unproven and if he picks up an injury we're left with Ambrose at RB whom I don't rate in that position. We also have Commons who is ageing and seems unfit this season.
Also added to all this we are about to play Thursday-Sunday European football, We're going to have to use the WHOLE squad and we know what we've been like playing domestic league games in regards to dropped points before and after European games in the past.
Unless we bring in a good 4-5 quality players over the next week of the window in the CB, CAM, LW, ST and LB positions then we are in trouble imo.
I know a lot of folk on here will say I'm bonkers, spoiled and should be in a strait jacket coming out with such perceived nonsense, but I think a lot of our fans need to wake up at just how poor a side we're becoming currently. I sound like a broken record but BIG change needs to happen fast, this is turning into Lenny's first season as manager all over again where he had to get rid of a pile of deadwood to progress the team. If ever there was a season where we are about to be genuinely challenged for the title then I feel this is it and I can't believe how crazy I'm sounding typing this and I can't really believe that I am. It's just not how I should feel about the way Celtic are going as a club. I honestly thought we would be pumping teams domestically week in, week out for years and years and getting better year on year as well securing CL footall every year whilst those zombies have been put in their place in the lower leagues as a new club whilst we build year on year and become almost unstoppable, like the way Rosenborg were in Norway for about 13 years in a row.
Lads I am genuinely concerned but hopefully the board have got a few surprises in store over the next week in bringing some quality players to the club putting us a good couple of galactic miles ahead of the rest of Scottish football again like we were the season we beat Barca under Lenny.
28 Aug 2015 00:57:32
I stopped reading your post when you criticised the signing of Brown. He had a bad night against Malmo, but for 95% of his time at the club he's been terrific
28 Aug 2015 03:19:01
A bad night against Malmo? Our most important game of the season worth millions of pounds which could have went towards building our side on and generating massive interest from the fanbase and keeping Celtic in the wider public domain? But as long as he turns up against St Johnstone on his over inflated wages at the weekend everything is fine. He is and never will be a true Celtic captain.
95% of the time? Don't make me laugh. Kayal, Ki, Bitton, Wanyama and Ledley have all better players than at CM over the last 5 years.
Bury your head in the sand mate all you like, but this is the reality of a squad we have and a season that we're going to face if things don't change within the next week of the window.
28 Aug 2015 09:26:56
If you think the board would have splashed out you need your head read. Our board is all about cost cutting and bringing players who are the cheaper option.
28 Aug 2015 11:08:24
Then we need to prepare for a very bumpy ride this season domestically marco because I fear it ain't going to be pretty unless the board dig deep over the next week and bring in 4 or 5 players that will go STRAIGHT into the first team.