Celtic Banter Archive April 28 2016

 

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28 Apr 2016 20:14:55
Some people on here have very short memory's! people that are touting Lennon for the Job are they the same people that wanted him out a few years back! I have a saying in life never go back! Never go back to a relationship there is a reason it never worked the first time! It's the same with a job he left for a reason so why go back! I love Lennon he's a Celtic legend but he has had his time as Celtic manager now let someone else give it a go!

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28 Apr 2016 23:01:12
I am saying I want him back and I didn't want him to leave. NL was a success at Celtic as a manager. he rebuilt a derelict team, beat a financially doped rangers and won three league titles, qualifying for the champions league last 16. He signed all the players that have made the club a fortune as well. Bring him back give him financial support and let him build a team without selling the best players every year and we will dominate in Scotland for another decade.

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{Ed007's Note - Let's hope he's over chatting up women (and a lad!) on social media and gave up threatening women with knives. As well as all the other times he dragged then name of the Club through the mud and embarrassed us all with his loutish degenerate behaviour.}

28 Apr 2016 23:28:04
I am not bothered about him chatting up however he wants, I don't know about the other times he has dragged the name of the club through the mud. If he has then yes I agree I hope he is over it, as I hope he will not be the victim of further terrorism in the future.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think the woman was a terrorist but at least we know he's tooled up and doesn't care if it's a man or woman. What a hero! I suppose you'd blame your sister if it was her he threatened.}

28 Apr 2016 23:36:21
I would agree with the principle of not going back . It rarely works and also removes the excitement of getting a new manager and probably a different style of football and also a couple of different types of players . Of all the names listed we probably don't know for sure who will definite do better than R D . We hope and expect that whoever the board chooses will do better but there is no quarantee.

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{Ed007's Note - I've got a stab proof vest up the loft from when I worked security, I wonder if Peter Lawwell has his own? Because from what I've heard it will be a cold day in hell before 2 members of the CFC board would ever have Lennon near the club.}

29 Apr 2016 00:06:47
Now that's just silly Ed, I said I didn't know about that, was he convicted of this offence which is indeed grave. your comment about my sister if I had one is uncalled for and disparaging who could condone such actions. Just for clarity I was talking about the intimidation and terror he was subjected to in his time as manager at Celtic, but I'm sure you knew that. I am still struggling to recall when he dragged the name of the club through the mud.

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{Ed007's Note - Try Google, there's plenty on there. Leaving Twitter because of his sleazy antics was on of the more public examples of his depravity and a particular highlight for me in seeing his mask slip.
I have no idea what bombs and bullets have to do with NL getting the CFC job, would you be interested in a candlelight virgil outside CP for the woman Lennon threatened.
You do know he held onto the Bolton job by the skin of his teeth because of his off-field behaviour don't you? Like I said, try Google, I've wasted more than enough time discussing such a human being as NL.}

29 Apr 2016 09:34:17
I sleep well at night these days knowing that Lennon is no longer manager and never will be manager of our club again. To suggest his reign was sucessful Grout64 is laughable. Had it not been for Sion fiasco it would of been 3 seasons before he delivered any shape or form of european football. His last season in charge, Absymal. Wait forgot! "Cleansheet record"

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29 Apr 2016 10:24:19
I liked the way we played and the European highs (and lows) when NL was in charge. I obviously am aware of the personal attacks and threats on him but admit to being ignorant on most of what has been discussed previously.
However, he had his time and enjoyed reasonable success (imo) . I think he left because the board would not back him and kept selling any decent players he could build a stronger team on (same with MON and WGS) .
However, he left, went to Bolton and failed. Regardless of all that, we should NOT have him back and we should now move on. The RD experiment failed (which is a shame but probably not too surprising for many) . We first need a board which will back anyone coming in and retain good players to give that person a chance to build a foundation on. (not too many of the current squad are worth keeping right now so a big challenge to whoever comes in)
Just get that person sooner rather than later is all I ask.

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29 Apr 2016 11:32:58
To be honest can't understand why anyone would want someone back who pubically touted themselves for an EPL job on numerous occasions during his reign as manager. Reality of situation is, he thought he was of high stock and only team interested in him he got them relegated to League 1. Only reason he wants back is because he has realised outside the grass is not greener and he is not rated as a manager.

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29 Apr 2016 13:56:49
DN 30 it is incontrovertible that NL was a success given the distaste. er he inherited. You have an irrational dislike of him, your choice but the legitimacy of your view is diminished by your previous unstinting support of RD.

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29 Apr 2016 16:43:35
Grout64 was that the reason it didn't work out at Bolton as well? Support of RD was down to the fact he was improvement on Lennon. RD downfall was getting knocked out of Scottish cup by championship team.

Ive got to admit I was doing backflips along Sunny Beach on holiday when Lennon announced his depature. Horrible person in more ways than one. Deluded to think a clean sheet record was more important than domestic cup success. Hands down best holiday I've ever been on 😎😎😎✈️✈️✈️.

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29 Apr 2016 20:14:48
DN 30 I have no idea what happened at Bolton probably a multitude of factors although he did keep them in the league a year longer than expected with the financial meltdown.

Anyway I am glad you had a lovely holiday that year and I hope you have many more, although I trust you were not wearing speedos when back flipping on the beach. True story when the news broke about NL leaving I was waiting to go down into surgery with a general anaesthetic. I must say over the last two years there were times I wished I was still under and the performances were all a bad dream under RD. I don't think we will ever agree on your point about RD being an improvement, I didn't think it then and I certainly don't think it now, his tenure has been fairly awful actually.

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28 Apr 2016 19:57:15
See jordan larsson scored 2 again tonight for helsingborg against AIK! 1 was a delightful chip and the other a free kick from 30 yards out. Surely worth a punt?

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28 Apr 2016 20:28:12
As much as I'd like to say no, my imagination runs wild and I would love it to work out to be some sort of second coming. To be fair, having kept an eye on his goals, he does look like a chip off the old block with the range and class behind some of his finishes.

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28 Apr 2016 22:03:49
Fairytale stuff int it. Just watched clips on YouTube, a know they don't paint the full picture but he does look awfy like henrik when he's playing

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28 Apr 2016 22:12:02
That dink over had his dad written all over it. Too early to tell unless he was ready to drop into the academy for a bit.

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29 Apr 2016 11:04:45
The best bet for players like him would be to buy him but let him carry on playing for his club. Then think about loaning him to another SPFL club or English lower leagues to climatise to British footy a bit.

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30 Apr 2016 01:03:36
Jim Jim the best thing we can do with a new player is to have him training with the squad for a week or two and then give him a prolonged run on the 1st team . If he isn't good enough we shouldn't have signed him .
In the last 20 years how many players have we bought and let them stay at their club and then loan him out to another SPL club and then they were successful for us.

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30 Apr 2016 09:07:23
I agree we should be signing first teamers. But clubs always need to be looking at projects. It's a bit of a catch 22. Is first team football more important, or working with our supposed better coaches and facilities? I'd always opt for first team football.

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28 Apr 2016 19:53:23
Anyone know a pub where I can watch the game v hearts on Saturday in Arbroath n if they would let my BHOYS in too?

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28 Apr 2016 23:06:52
There's a place called the brew house, was a wee pic bit through the back but don't know if it showed sport. There's a few wee boozers so somewhere will have it on mate.

On another note, why has someone disagreed with this post? Are you not allowed to watch the game in arbroath?

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29 Apr 2016 12:24:36
NT, there are members on here who will click disagree for anything. Some think its funny, some are just morons and some genuinely disagree but never explain why. If you said that The first name of the Queen was Elizabeth or the Pope lived in the Vatican or even Celtic's home ground being in Parkhead then the morons would disagree.

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29 Apr 2016 11:57:43
You'll get in the Rams heid wi your bhoys in arbroath.

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28 Apr 2016 18:50:44
So who is the realistic targets, Lambert, Lennon, Clarke. PL will see them as the cheaper options than Keane, Moyes, Rodgers. Have to say i would rather both Clarke and Lambert ahead of Lennon.

From that 6 i would still prefer Keane, Then its anyone from Moyes, Clarke and Lambert. Lennon and Rodgers would be last on my list.

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28 Apr 2016 19:07:21
I would rather Lennon than the others, don't like the idea of McKay or even clarke.

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28 Apr 2016 19:15:07
am a missin sumthin here what the fk has keane ever done manager wise sweet fk all that's whit get real mate he wid be just as much a risk as deila,
the prick is only getting mentioned because he's hingin oan the tails ae mon?
think ae king kenny what a player eh?
manager?
apart fae inheritin a fkn brill team at the pool?
the auld owner of blackburn rovers bote the league aka chelsea, man city etc,
go oan enlighten me,
heeeees an arsehole,
ps edit that wan edo!

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28 Apr 2016 19:15:26
I hope not Keane please no more rookies IMO we need a proven long term manager.

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28 Apr 2016 19:15:30
The Blackburn fans would drive lambert up here for us to make sure he leaves in the summer. the rest average . maybe we could do a brewsters millions and have banners with . "none of the above". on them. followed with all the duds names on them.

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28 Apr 2016 19:45:27
Get real is all i understood from that Pat. So we can quite safely say no matter who comes in he is going to be hated by someone. What a support we are eh chase out our managers and abuse the ones who haven't even walked through the door yet. What a zombie attitude.

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28 Apr 2016 20:14:37
The priority is to win this overdue league title as soon as possible. Then I hope the club make immediate in-roads to name a successor, even if RD has a couple of games left to play.
There are plenty of clubs that name a manager-elect in advance and as long as it is seen as the best candidate available, it should give the club and support a much needed boost for next season.
Of course the new appointment will never please everyone, but the board have to be seen to have learned lessons from the errors of NL and RD's tenures and install a boss who can hold his own in Europe and appreciates the pressures of domestic dominance, while dealing with the distraction and interference of our media's Sevco-Mania.

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28 Apr 2016 20:20:52
Not everyone is happy to accept 2nd best Stan . doesn't make us any less of a supporter . would you rather a good manager or someone who is celtic minded because as far as I'm concerned all the names in frame aren't top notch but nust have a pazt to me tbats not good enoughhave a celtic link.

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28 Apr 2016 20:47:27
Spot on again Jungle Jim.
The new man whoever he is will be under fire from the media straight away, the last thing they want is for a Celtic manager that can take us forward.
It's important that the board appoint a strong character who can handle the pressures of the job, I don't think that with sevco in the premier league next season, that it's a job for a rookie.

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28 Apr 2016 21:08:13
Deep River Bhoy, 2nd best is unacceptable for Celtic in Scotland. We have to get this appointment right. All i have done is name the people who have been linked by the media and said who i would prefer. Maybe we will all get a surprise but i doubt it, the surprise would be another cheap experiment and someone who won't stand up to PL and tell him to gtf out if the dressing room. I don't care about Celtic minded what other club in Europe employs people on their previous links to the Club. We are where we are and under this Board i can't see us pulling any rabbits from the hat. PL does cheap and he won't change unless DD has hard stern words with him about the way we are being run.

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28 Apr 2016 22:23:48
Other clubs who employ former employees or minded people think Real Madrid and Barcelona regularly and it's happened at almost every club in the world at some time or another.

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29 Apr 2016 05:22:38
C'mon now Jim we all know Capello, Toshack, Hiddink, Ancelotti, Mourinho and Pelligrini never played for Real :-)

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29 Apr 2016 07:10:50
Yes we all know Barnes Jansen deila venglos o'neil strachan never played for Celtic but look deeper and you will see a connection. Why did real desperately want zidane? Not because of his managerial achievements.

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29 Apr 2016 07:51:35
To be honest i was looking at Google at 5am I could not tell you anything about Real and why they want Zidane, All i know is he was one of the if not thee greatest player ever. Either him, Maradonna or Stevie Fulton.

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28 Apr 2016 18:50:36
What do you think of Cesare Prandelli? Is he someone we would want or could get?

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28 Apr 2016 17:48:09
Awrite ED, tried posting earlier but not seen it. just wanted your take on Paul lambert bud. he sounded adamant in the past that he wouldn't fancy managing up here but he sounds as if he's changed his tune with his comments today! U think he'll be in the running mate?

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{Ed007's Note - He will be in the bookies no doubt.}

28 Apr 2016 16:34:53
WHile I am already bored of the new manager chat it makes a refreshing change to reading about sacking Deila.

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28 Apr 2016 12:17:24
Some sites linking us with players were supposed to be looking at for summer. imagine the scenario . new manager . what's my budget . Pl zero but we've bought you these players get on with it. possible?

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28 Apr 2016 17:51:54
Aslong as they are good quality players and not Duds shouldn't be too off putting however I do believe a manager must have full control of all team affairs otherwise he's only there to pick the team.

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28 Apr 2016 23:43:39
A person can only do so much, work so many hours, if he cannot employ people to do some of the work for him, then I wouldn't let him in through the door . Many people on here were and are full of praise for the great job that MO'N did as manager here, yet we never had a manager who did less work than Martin.

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28 Apr 2016 14:21:06
Afternoon Ed, Timeline wise mate when do you expect news of our new manager?

Are they letting RD have his "moment in the sun" ie winning it over the next week and then announcing mate?

We need someone in to take stock and get as much in / out as he can (y)

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{Ed007's Note - I reckon RD will see out the season and then a week or so after we'll find what's happening.}

28 Apr 2016 15:20:54
I'd be surprised if they haven't got a new man ready to go before Ronny leaves but it won't become official until he does. Although it'll be an open secret.

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28 Apr 2016 14:01:42
As much as I loved lambert when he played for us, and he was a talented football. Am i the only one worried that he is standing down as Blackburn manager at the end of the season?

I don't think he could step up to the job and his managerial record isn't too impressive.

I hope I am proved wrong if he gets the job.

HH.

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28 Apr 2016 15:29:22
Back to back automatic promotions with Norwich was fairly impressive and he's probably been unlucky in the fact that he joined Villa at a bad time as they've gotten worse and worse since MON and Blackburn are in a terrible state. It's a tricky one to call.

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28 Apr 2016 16:13:24
Yeah I remembered what he done with Norwich, if he did get it like i said I hope he would prove me wrong.

Just strange that he is leaving at the end of season as is Deila.

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28 Apr 2016 17:18:43
Lambert distanced himself from the goldfish bowl of Glasgow ages ago so we can forget that.

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28 Apr 2016 17:28:30
Lambo would be my first pick. Much prefer him to any of the names been touted.

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28 Apr 2016 18:05:30
Paul Lambert would be an excellent choice ,in my opinion . Great player who knows the Club and.what the fans want, and good experience in England where he will have made loads of contacts . Champions league winner also . Downside is he did say he didn't want his children exposed to the hatred that they would experience in Glasgow but that was a few years ago . HH .Vinciebhoy

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28 Apr 2016 12:00:05
The new manager should either be Gus Hiddink or Roberto Di Matteo or Roberto Martinez what do you all think.

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28 Apr 2016 12:48:51
I'd rather have Moyes than Martinez tbh.

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28 Apr 2016 13:07:36
Am sure hiddink is retiring at end of season
I like martinez I know he is going through a bad time at the moment but I like the way he likes to play

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28 Apr 2016 13:11:59
Would be happy with any of them but don't think we will get any of them.

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28 Apr 2016 09:49:24
Can' help believe that all the names being floated about are just in the minds of bookmakers, the only one I think who is anywhere near in the frame from those touted would be Steve Clarke, but I firmly believe the new manager will be a someone not even mentioned so far although I do think that the man has already been selected, lawwell was very aware that Deila would be gone in the summer regardless of the spin coming from Celtic park there was no way Ronny was being trusted with CL for another season, lawwell biggest problem apart from selling the new man to the fans will be selling season tickets to those same fans the timing of the new appointment will say everything about the quality of the new man, so all we can do for now keep our money in our pockets and see what way Desmond has jumped, progression or regression.

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28 Apr 2016 12:59:43
I agree I do think cfc know already who the new guy is and would probably be announced if league was wrapped up.

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28 Apr 2016 08:18:21
Problems with identifying a suitable manager:
Poor quality league
Wealthy neighbours down south
Limited transfer budget
Transfer signing policy?
Comparatively low salary

Positives:
Historical club
Massive loyal support
Large budget (for Scotland)
Celtic vs TRFC games
Potential champions league

Lots to consider, and factor in the limited timescale, and the new definition of success - many fans demanding CL and trebles.
Not an easy task.

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28 Apr 2016 11:05:24
Also don't forget a 1 year rolling contract.

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28 Apr 2016 12:09:15
Stepping stone to down south.

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28 Apr 2016 13:26:34
Was just looking at the salaries of the EPL manager's in 2014/ 15 and noticed that 5 club s pay a similar wage to Celtic.

Swansea
Stoke
Newcastle
Sunderland
Crystal Palace

Lambert was on 2M a year (about 2-3 more than we pay) . Everton and West Brom were only paying about double what we pay (1.5M) .

The big difference though is transfer budget but I don't see this being an issue for most because anyone who manages Celtic will have the best squad in the country and the biggest transfer budget as well.

The only stumbling block I see is the fact we play in Scotland which is inferior to a large number of leagues in Europe.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not 100% about Newcastle, Rab. When Pardew was manager there a massive chunk of his wages from his 8 year contract went to pay off his gambling debts to Ashley and Lambias, he was really given no more than a living allowance. Probably more than me or you right enough but still not his full pay.}

28 Apr 2016 14:49:05
We have 34 senior players on the books, about 12 too many. If the 12 were sold on or even freed the cost savings could be enough to pay a good manager.

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30 Apr 2016 01:08:27
We have at least 12 players whom nobody wants, even if we gave them away.

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