Celtic Banter Archive September 27 2014

27 Sep 2014 22:05:18
Theres just no pleasing some people. End of the day, a win is a win, 3 points are 3 points. Its a step in right direction.

Beginning to think that even if Delia gets his own squad and they win every game and bags treble, there will still be people out there slating him.

You would think people would be happy now we have a striker who knows how to find the back of the net

Come off it DN30, 2 strikes on target results on win we are poor mate, look good, and there no real signs of progress? and now being told we look tired? never known it before mate after 7 games have you?

I think we are all happy with the three points. However, at a time when we should be streets ahead of the competition, we are struggling to get those points. When the undead were laid to rest we all thought that this was a chance to use pretty much guaranteed CL cash to increase the gap. This has not happened. Our league position summ
Sums it up. Even if we win our game in hand we are still only joint second. This, for me, is just not good enough. We have not progressed and that is the bottom line. i'm concerned about this season and I'm not looking forward to next season. I'm worried about being drawn against the zombies as they will not be the walkover they should be. Happy with three points? Always. Happy with our progress? Absolutely not.

At least we are in a better position tonight compared to last Sunday night. I know Deila is not playing the formation I would like but at least we have won two domestic games in a row.

DN I'm always happy with a win and 3 points, i'm easy pleased that way.

I do have concerns though, which i'm allowed to have just as you were with Lennon and any other Manager.

I have no qualms what-so-ever about our Manager being a former player or 'Celtic man', this has never bothered me in the least - I don't know what else to say to you about this. I know some fans, and not just at Celtic, prefer this as they think then they have a Manager who understands them blah.

What Ronny says and what we see on the park are polar opposites:-

He's spoken about unfit players - its the end of September and I see players who look lazy, cannot be bothered and have no pace.

Attacking football - we are struggling to break teams like Dundee down and are playing with no creativity at all. We seem disjointed most of the time.


Gordon, Wakaso, Guidetti, Scepovic, McGregor, Berget, Denayer, Tonev - did not work under Lennon last season to blame his poor diet and the rest have been working with Ronny for 3/4 months now. This is enough time to see the benefits of any change in diet particulary in a player who was already reasonably fit.

Anyway, these are my concerns.

@DN you confuse me mate. If this was Lennons record last season you would be slaughtering him.

27 Sep 2014 16:52:59
I personally can't wait till Forrest is back playing and can't understand why he splits the fans, (not talking about his injury problems, purely his footballing ability) I also think Henderson is the best center mid we have to play beside brown. Does Ronny just not fancy him edd? Or is there something we don't know about, he can't make the squad but is a way better player IMO than Yohanson or Bitton. Markiebhoy

27 Sep 2014 15:40:15
I'm still finding Ronny's team selections and tactics very frustrating. We are making hard work of every game and after 7 games, we've dropped 7 points already! The football is anything but 'free flowing'.

I'd much prefer to see 2 strikers play up front in the league games and cannot understand this 1 lone striker. We got our 2nd goal in a few minutes after it changed to 4-4-2

I am trying hard to be patient and give him the benefit of the doubt - but he is really not utilising ALL the players at his disposal and the football is more akin to the Norwegian second division.
We hardly created anything in the first half against a packed defence as we do not have enough players who can see, or even execute a decent pass properly.
There is little pace in the team and we look likely to concede against every opponent we play.
How many times this season have any of us actually enjoyed watching Celtic?. That can't be good.

This is my worry Jim, we don't look any better than your average Scottish team (bottom 6 without Scott Brown) and yet we want to be at Champions League level.

The other teams in Scotland can't get past the Europa League qualifiers, not even close.

I want to give Ronny time and hope he is a success but I just can't see what it is he's trying to do.

The youth and fringe players - think this ship has sailed, useless.
Players bought in over the summer - so far our best signings are loan, no words necessary

How are we building or rebuiding anything?

I normally agree with your posts .
I think that the loans were bought in because by the time Deila had accessed his squad fully and decided the positions he wanted strengthening it was going to exceed budget to rush in a few purchases. It was thought buying in haste could turn out to be buying expensive flops.

Unfortunately (and last season not withstanding) a load to celtic and European football is a better prospect at this point for some prospects than a proper move. Its depressing to say the least.

For Ronny's teams, I think I can see he wants one and two touch passing as the norm, with some penetration from the flanks and a bit of dribbling. The forwards seem to be expecting more direct passing from further back in the field, and when they get it the look plausible, but not fluid. It is early days, but that was a pretty woeful showing.

Brown was decent, Emilio, and I like the pace on Mubarak Wakaso; even if he's not successful he'll open things for the centre forwards, and with forrest on the other side, and his tendency to cut in, they could be good together especially if they can change wings.

But hey - that wasn't worth the 2 hours I put into it.

I get all that Yourman, it just doesn't seem that Ronny is building a squad he can say is his.

We had 2 shots on goal today, TWO!This is from someone who plays attacking football.

I know Mrs T but like all managers I don't believe a word that Deila says when he speaks his of long term goals .
Remember he use to talk about playing attractive attacking football. The attacking football doesn't exist and my God we are playing our most unattractive football for years .
However Mrs T is we can put together a run of victories, the spirit and the style of football may pick up.

27 Sep 2014 14:53:31
I know we won but we look a poor side with no system or fluidity. Johansen, McGregor were poor and has Scepovic even had one good touch yet? Upsides were Izzy played great again and I thought Efe had a good day. We will however get murdered against a good European team. Never miss a Celtic game either by going or on TV but its a bad day when I was thinking of changing to the Liverpool v Everton game. What is everyone's opinions?

Hi Marty yes a big plus for Efe and an even bigger 1 for Izzy

ATVB

27 Sep 2014 16:25:11
Kayak, Biton or Henderson are better players than Johansen or Mcgregor.
Need to start worrying for when Mulgrew and Forrest are fit because you can be sure this mapper will play them.

I for one hopes whatever he is called picks Forrest, if and when he gets fit .

27 Sep 2014 13:57:27
Yet again another biased refereeing performance from think he must still be seething that we pumped his team the other night!

27 Sep 2014 08:35:28
ED007, Bhoys, Ghirls and wee Pat this weekend is one of those rare occasions a current free weekend.
Let us hope there are many more of them to come in the coming months so in the meantime can I wish everyone a happy current free weekend. lol

27 Sep 2014 11:15:21
Morning Ed, let's be having it .predictions

Feeling good, game 2 in a 10 - win streak coming up!

st mirren 1 celtic 4

over and out and hail hail

27 Sep 2014 08:45:58
The treatment of the gb is as organised by are board as the selling of are prize assets is, it's as simple as this, any fan organisation with a voice that puts any danger to the strangle hold Desmond and lawell have on are club will be dealt with in this manner, I personally wasn't ther on we'd as I've made my stance and will not be going back to paradise until ther is a regime change Desmond needs to sell the club NOW it is mere pocket money to this man with the wealth of nearly 2 billion it is pocket change to him what he is taken from are club in selling are prize assets he in my mind is a greedy man with his monkey in lawell, ther time is up at cp and me for one will not be back at Cp until ther is big changes, I think Desmond and lawell have all ther chickens in one basket in the hope that rangers come up next season and all will be good in full stadiums week in week out , dreaming , ther biggest mistake was takeing Lennon for granted some fans didn't like his way of playing sometimes but the fact is he did bring back the thunder and now he has gone it has gone with him I hope he is back at paradise one day, as he was one of us and loved the club more than Desmond or lawell could ever hope of loving Celtic

The green brigade bring an atmosphere to the games, but the same gb have embarrassed celtic on a regular basis with the club receiving numerous fines for their continuous refusal to adhere to what you can and cannot sing and political banners on show, hardly a prize asset.as for not going back to celtic park until Dermot Desmond and peter lawwell are gone is IMO, pretty pathetic from a celtic fan.as for Lennon, if you were happy with cup defeats against, st miren, Kilmarnock, hearts, Morton, I shudder to think what reaction there would be if Deila loses against lesser opposition.and if you don't go back to celtic park for the reasons you give take it from me you won't be missed.killy.

Killy you obviously take second best in your life just like 55 percent of your country, everybody has ther views and my post on prize assets was for hopper wannyama foster and co your obviously happy with the way the club is being run, my trip to go too paradise is a thousand miles round journey I work 7 nights a week to follow the team I adore but that is nothing for to see Celtic run out on too any pitch is worth it but since those displays in cl qualifiers something snapped and my stance is my stance I'm not goading any one else to join me , and for me not being missed why have I had over 20 emails from Celtic over the last 3 weeks wondering why I ain't bought my eufa cup tickets plus other offers but I don't want to be missed I just don't want too give any more of my hard earned cash to this joke running the club I have travelled too see for over 30 years and as for the gb I personally agree with 99percent of ther views and Lenny might have had a few bad results but I would still rather have him than the joke we have at the helm at the momment hail hail

27 Sep 2014 22:14:56
Some good points TET,like u I have for a number of years wanted to c ,Desmond and his 2 monkeys lawell and park piss off.

English Tim I have been a celtic supporter for 60 years, and over that period I have seen worse celtic teams than we have at present, years of winning absolutely nothing, but you know what, I went to see the team that I also love, why because I'm a celtic supporter.when the team is struggling I shout them on encouraging them that's what I always thought supporters were for, not turning your back on them because things are not to your satisfaction.as for the green brigade, as I said my earlier post they create a tremendous atmosphere to the stadium, but why do they bring politics, and songs that are prohibited into it.and why did you bring politics into your post, I voted no to independence, not because Westminster promised scotland more powers, because I asked snp in my area 4 questions that I never got a proper answer to (1) defence, (2)immigration, (3) currency, (4)the cost of leaving the uk.i won't bore you with the childlike answers to those questions.this page is all about opinions you are entitled to yours and me likewise.killy.