Celtic Banter Archive January 27 2014

27 Jan 2014 23:33:17
Ed there is a lot of negativity about Griffiths proposed move to the hoops I think it's harsh what's your thoughts on it and do you think this deal will go through in this window. Your input would be great thanks.

{Ed007's Note - I'll be surprised if the clubs don't agree a fee but it might take Griffiths handing in a transfer request to push it through. It's another underwhelming signing IMO and I'm struggling to get my head round why we are even considering signing him, it's pointless. I think it's strange that we have Watt and now Atajic out on loan and yet we are trying to sign Griffiths and I would be amazed if this signing had anything to do with NL, if it has then he has seriously lost the plot.}

If it is NL then he has lost the plot. Saying one thing, doing another. He's a young player with a good record. Normally what I'd love us to go for. But I'm not loving it. Besides the fact he's a nugget - just last year he was charged for tw×tting "f×ck off back to your own country" to a british/asian arabic lad - hardly what our club stands for and goes against our very existence. I believe in forgiveness, and NL reckons he's improved; Hopefully not just on the field. As for the lad on the field, yeah, he might come good, but he's not what we need, not right now. You can talk about stats all day long, but in the shadow of Mark Twain, there are how many players that have scored less that you'd rather have? As for the people saying we're not in the market to go out and spend £6-8m on a striker, f×cking wake up. We were in the market to recieve £12m for a player six months ago.

28 Jan 2014 06:51:59
Were in the market to accept

27 Jan 2014 22:18:29
Evening Ed

Do you think there could be any last minute move for Steven Fletcher? I noticed tonight that Sunderland have signed an Argentinian striker and also recalled Conner Wickham from his loan spell with Sheff Wed after he notched 11 in 13 appearances! What's your thoughts?

Ice man

{Ed007's Note - Sorry mate, I don't think there was ever any real intention to sign Fletcher.}

Thank God, Fletcher is not what we need, grossly overpriced. Hail Hail
TamTimTic

27 Jan 2014 20:44:32
On the Griffiths thing, are we being blinded by the fact he is Scottish? When you look at his scoring record, and the wide variety of goals among them, it is pretty respectable. Being honest I always thought he was quite useful, and always gave us a test.

The other thing is he has a good attitude to hard work.He is pacey and direct, always a threat against any defender, and will work a defence.As for the 'cant score in the CL league' argument, we will never know till he gets a game will we? As far as I am aware the goals are the same size in the CL as they are in the SPFL. let's also remember he will be part of a squad, he is not any marquee signing.Worth a punt? for me yes.

27 Jan 2014 21:06:31
Defo GJ

Gj its not 100% football reasons people are against this boy its his personality/ behaviour that is driving a lot of the dislike and hatred (look at some of the posts on other sites also) towards him, we/i also thought(foolishly again) we might just get a so called big signing but this looks like we are going for the cheaper option again . in saying that I do agree with your view/assesment of the boy,,,, deep river bhoy

It's lennons fault shouting the odds about being able to spend 6 mil on one player I think we need someone with a bit of strength to lead the line in Europe every time I've seen him play he gets pushed off the ball too easily if he would have been bought in the summer ahead of pukki no one would be bothered but because we have so many strikers who play the same way (without scoring as many goals before someone contributes that)and IMO he is no better than stokes or pukki we need someone with better ability

27 Jan 2014 23:37:12
Good assessment imo green jhedi.

GJ I am with you. Let's be honest here, is Griff our first choice?. No. Do we need to spend serious money to win the double?. No. What I can't understand is the very public 'We will push the boat out in Jan to get guys bedded in for the Champs League tilt in August'. NOW. seems the total opposite. I happen to think Griffiths will do a lot better than some of our recent more expensive signings. Good luck son.

He's a racist, which is a good enough reason for me not to have him anywhere near the club. So not only are people quite happy to see the Hibernification of our club with all traces of politics + heritage wiped out, but people are also happy to see us sign someone who was charged under the Communications Act for telling an Asian guy to go "back to your own country" on Twitter only last year?!

27 Jan 2014 19:59:55
Lennon talking like the griffiths deal will definitely be done. This would probable see us start next season with 6 strikers on the books Griffiths, Stokes, Pukki, Balde, Fridjohnsson and Watt.

What's everyone's thoughts on who would be our number one striker?

Tommobhoy

27 Jan 2014 20:25:35
Pretty hard to say yet never seen the fridge, what tony watt will we get back, will balde ever get a chance will Griffith sucseed

Didn't NL state at the end of last season that none of the candidates for player of the year " would get in to the Celtic team "? . Now after a few games and being subbed at half time most games Leigh Griffiths is good enough for Celtic and most of all good enough to come from the third tier of English football to play in the CL . I will give Griffiths every opportunity and support him all the way if he signs . The only thing that gets me is the turnaround in NLs opinion and his total disregard for the fans yet again in his interview. DH

27 Jan 2014 20:33:27
Maybe Lennon was just seething that none of his players got the award of poty, plus he wouldn't have got in ahead of hooper

That's my point . We've never replaced Hooper but now Griffiths is the answer all of a sudden . As I said I will give the boy every chance . Another thing I find strange is why Watt is sent to Belgium because of a bit of attitude problems and now we are signing a player with wait for it . Attitude problems . DH

27 Jan 2014 19:39:17
Hi Ed, guys I never heard Lennon talk about a potential signing like this Griffiths saga. Doesn't every manager go ape shiiit talking about their own players as Lennon would do if it was 1 o ours. Smokescreen anyone? Thoughts.

{Ed007's Note - It's an open secret that Griffiths want to move back to Scotland and it's not as if Wolves want to keep him.}

27 Jan 2014 18:37:21
Ed I agree with you Lennon has stagnated the team and signing griffiths is just further proof I hope he leaves in the summer he's done well but he doesn't seem to be getting better tactically just hope if he leaves in the summer there is someone decent to step into the role

I also agree Hoopy. Only the slug could loose the league as it stands. I say maybe NL goes now and gives us chance to get someone bedded in for CL. If it's likely he is going in summer then don't let him buy Griffiths or anyone else. He will buy him and still not play him anyway. And if he does leave he will come shopping in Glasgows East End. I'm not saying he goes because of his results in his tenure I'm frightened of what he leaves behind. Take Sammy to Norwich Neil and let's build for the future. Build the team bring through youths. This is one of reasons for poor Scottish league and poor national team. No decent young scots. Even the EPL are realising foreign imports are stagnating their young plays development. No World Cup for them again.

Lennon came into this season without his 3 best players, he also wasn't allowed for financial restrictions to get his first choice strikers and had to take a gamble on balde and pukki his team has now gone unbeaten in the league all season so far and without conceding a goal in the last 10 wtf do people want? do people actually think we could/can win the champions league, he taken us into the knockout stages which is a massive achievement, he done this with no grasp of tactics as people accuse him of,, something the revered martin o, neill couldn't do, I know he has faults and is still learning but he has done far more good than bad in his time as manager,,,, deep river bhoy

27 Jan 2014 23:35:20
Well said deep river bhoy.

27 Jan 2014 17:58:58
It's says in the star that we wanted griffiths on loan thought Lenny wasn't wanting loans if this is the standard of player we are looking at we shouldn't sign any one this window and just hope for the best come CL qualifiers because that's all that's going to happen if we sign him wee need quality not another squad player

27 Jan 2014 18:08:45
Don't think we would struggle with qualifiers this year like we did last providing we don't sell main players, we have a settled team at moment we didn't have at start of season, look at VVD against Karagandy who would have thought he'd turn out the way he has

We will struggle this year garenteed settled team sammi and Ledley leaving maybe who is Lennon going to play out left without his favourite tactic in Europe pump the ball out left to sammi and hope he can do something with it this is going to be the final straw for some people look forward to what PR will come out from the board and there mouth peice to get fans to buy new season books

27 Jan 2014 19:34:00
Final straw you gony boycott?

27 Jan 2014 15:14:28
As a stated on here on the 15th Griffiths WILL be a celtic player! Only stumbling block is fee/sign off/on fees and more so off

Not happy at all with calibre of strikers we're been linked with at the moment grffiths is a wretched creature with the morals of a sewer rat, come to think of it he rather resembles one too but that's besides the point I'd much rather give the opportunity to those already at the club. Some players are good players at small clubs and fail to make it at big clubs and I believe Griffiths to be one of these. Wit about the boy Rooney at man utd hear he could be looking for a new club in the summer why not hold out for him if we're looking for a guy who's coupon could terrorise weans and defences alike
HH

27 Jan 2014 18:33:54
Brilliant slag grifiths for his off field morals then go on 2 say ud take Rooney the granny sh*gger

A joke ffs if we're going for a bam let's get the best one
HH Thommyj never logged in

28 Jan 2014 18:01:58
Think ma point there m8 is if we were signing a star a 10m player then people would turn a blin eye to off field antics.
The GB constantly bring bad attention to us with there antics but the same people moaning about grifiths defend them on here

27 Jan 2014 12:44:34
Wolves reject celtic bid for striker Leigh griffifths . Sly sports.

Here we go again bidding peanuts for players . Another let down!

Chalky bhoy

Pay peanuts you get monkeys

"We tried our best, the club wouldn't accept two Irn-Bru bars and a Freddo for their top goalscorer so we've decided that we're best sticking with what we have for another 7 months." - Peter Lawwell, 1st Feb 2014.

The big banks cash machines sometimes won't give out your hard earned cash. It appears they may be conditioning us by getting rid of paper money. The digital stuff is so much easier to control and manufacture.
Now CFC won't buy quality players. Maybe they can't get access to the money either. Sopotcelt.

They upped the bid to 6 gingies, a wowcher for a pubic wax, plus a Time Share apartment in Shettleston.
Think that should do it!

JJ

How much did we bid? Oh you don't know?

@5) if we want a player with an affordable fee then it should be a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's it's obvious we need an out and out finisher this lad is a different type of forward to what we have he plays on the shoulder of the defence has great pace and a wonderful strike rate in the summer we bid for lee tomlin and looked like a bunch of amateurs putting three bids in within three hours . wasting time when we knew how much they wanted for him, I know we have to be clever but sometimes you have just pay up.

Only an opinion!

Chalky bhoy

Considering he's now in to his 8th season as a first team player, only played top level football for two of those seasons - Livi (3x First Div), Dundee (1.5x First Div), Hibs (2x SPL) + Wolves (0.5x Prem Reserve League + 1x L1) and was bought by Wolves for £150k in 2011 then I can't imagine Griffiths' can be any more than £1m?

27 Jan 2014 17:12:33
@6 dnt talk mince . Celtic could afford 4m for grifiths does that mean we should just pay it if wolves ask for it.
When you buy a house do you go in and offer the value first time? No you try get it for the best price you can, same principal applies

@8) monkeybhoy I agree with you about spending but if it's refused why is it public knowledge why not go back to the table with another bid and keep our business in house at least until we have a definitive answer, all this makes us look is amateur. 5 or 6 years ago we offered Hamilton accies under 100 grand for James McCarthy at that time he was 17 and a stand out young player in the spl being hunted by prem league teams we messed about for a week trying to sign him and he ended up going to Wigan . Wigan and then moved on to Everton where he is a class act . A risk we should have took and we bottled it, if I am wrong then I fair enough but it was a valid point in my opinion m8 .

Chalkybhoy

27 Jan 2014 18:36:04
If somebody at wolves tell tv they've rejected a bid what can celtic do about that?

Not to mention the fact Wigan signed him for £1.2m in 2009 then sold him last summer for around £10.5m - he could've been another in the Wanyama, Ki + Hooper bracket!

HamiltonBhoy

27 Jan 2014 12:15:30
Ed noticed that Fulham are interested in a CF called Simon Makienok from Bromby. There looking at a fee between �3-4m. The guys 6'7 and has nearly a 1 in 2 goal ratio going back to 09. Surely if Celtic are looking for value then Scandinavia is the place they should be looking.

27 Jan 2014 10:07:05
I think the striker we need is Billy McKay from ICT, better that Griffith's anyway

Don't like McKay either but would take him before griffiths