Celtic Banter Archive December 26 2018
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26 Dec 2018 23:44:38
With Tierney a major doubt for Saturday who would you lot rather see at left back.
Hayes or Izzy?
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26 Dec 2018 23:58:33
I would go with hayes, he's better on the ball aswell. I know rodgers said it was highly unlikely kt won't make it but hope he's wrong. Rogic and kt are 2 massive losses but they are rotten!
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27 Dec 2018 02:02:00
JOHNNY HAYES WITHOUT A DOUBT IZAGUIRRE AGAINST THE FORCES OF DARKNESS Would be a mistake and no lm not being harsh but if he is playing I hope I'm very wrong.
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27 Dec 2018 08:50:58
Love Izzy, although when he makes a mistake it usually costs us.
I thought he was unlucky yesterday as his momentum caused the problem well after the ball was played; however it gave Collum the decision to make and Bhoy, how quickly and excitedly they take the chance.
Hayes is relatively untested at LB, but Pittodrie was as stern a test as Ibrox and although it is Izzy's natural position, BR seemed to be disappointed in him and I think he will not be in the immediate plans and expect KT to be back with Hayes as deputy.
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27 Dec 2018 09:08:37
A don’t think KT will make it so Hayes would be the safer bet he has pace and tenacity and loves a tackle. He’s also our best crosser from corners.
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27 Dec 2018 09:37:59
On yesterday's evidence it has to be Hayes for me, Izzy probably better for a home game I reckon.
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27 Dec 2018 09:46:45
Why did Izzy get caught up the park that's the problem for me.
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27 Dec 2018 10:19:39
Once a bhoy Izzy wasn't unlucky. His momentum took him in to mcginn because he dived in when the ball was already away and he had no chance of playing it.
It was an idiotic challenge to make.
Now as the ed will tell you I was pretty positive about Izzy being a back up squad player but after yesterday and how much more solid Hayes looks I'd also go with him for ibrox.
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27 Dec 2018 10:21:38
I think if KT doesn't make it, Brendan may opt for 3 at the back. Broonie will sit in front of them. He then has McGregor, Christie, Forrest, Sinclair. Maybe Eddy up front with Mikey Johnston. Take Sevco apart!
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27 Dec 2018 11:06:07
No way he's going with a 3 after the last few disasters playing it.
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27 Dec 2018 12:10:57
I agree forget the 3 at the back 👎.
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27 Dec 2018 12:28:19
I wouldn't play 3 at the back no chance. Hayes played well yesterday so I'd go with him at ibrox.
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27 Dec 2018 14:29:09
Just my opinion. I genuinely believe Sevco have a weak midfield and defence. Even their own fans would admit without McGregor and Morelos they'd be bottom 6. They also seem to think targeting Broonie and Callum is their only way to win. They won't finish with 11. They play one up. I'm convinced we will destroy them with 3. Plus it's only my opinion in the event KT doesn't play. I think he will start.
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27 Dec 2018 18:59:34
No chance 3 at the back. The few times it has been done has ended up a disaster like hibs recently. Don't think BR would be talking up hayes if he had 3 at the back in his head.
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27 Dec 2018 21:21:59
Izzy.
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27 Dec 2018 21:22:26
Would be Hayes for me kev! More energy and as much as I think he just lacks that bit of quality for us, there’s no doubt the boy gives a good shift and never stops running! Izzy is done and was done 2 years ago!
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27 Dec 2018 21:23:48
Graham murtys on his way.
After celtic dish out the usual pumping on Saturday. gerrard will be on a very shaky peg 😂.
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27 Dec 2018 21:24:59
Can't believe I'm writing these words but it's got to be Hayes. Going to be a challenge to who ever Brendan picks.
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26 Dec 2018 21:17:56
Here's one for any statto out there. Since signing for Celtic how many penalties has Craig Gordon faced and saved. I can only remember 1 being saved against Hapoel Beer Shava in a CL qualifier. He may have saved another in the shoot out against Sevco a few years back. He's certainly face plenty that's for sure. Anytime a team is awarded a pen it's a cert they will score. Anybody with the correct info would be much appreciated.
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26 Dec 2018 22:38:12
Just falls to a side and no where near.
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26 Dec 2018 23:25:41
In 2014 hearts player Sow hit a penalty over the bar with Gordon in goals.
Craig saved the one you mentioned in europe.
I think that's it in a celtic jersey.
Someone mentioned tonight he saved 2 penalties in england and then those Celtic penalties and that's it in his whole career. Which would also mean he never saved any for hearts in game time but he did win a penalty shoot out with them v gretna.
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26 Dec 2018 23:37:54
If he even stood still he would save a few, he is too busy pointing and faffing about.
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26 Dec 2018 23:40:00
Transfermarket have Craig Gordon only saving 3 penalties in his career which is not accurate because the beer sheva penalty was not included in the list.
What i did notice was those 3 penalties were all off target.
Which could mean the only penalty craig has actually saved is the one that took us to the champios league. Surely not.
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27 Dec 2018 00:04:57
Transfermarket stats for penalty saves.
Craig Gordon 3 saves out of 44
Boruc. 15 saves out of 56
Forster. 11 saves out of 30.
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27 Dec 2018 00:42:44
Here’s another interesting stat. He’s let in fewer goals than any other goalkeeper in the Scottish premiership this season. Oh and he let in fewer goals than any other goalkeeper in the Scottish premiership last season. Oh, would you believe it, he let in fewer goals than any other goalkeeper in the premiership two seasons ago. Who’d have thought it, eh?
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27 Dec 2018 07:01:41
To be honest I’m more concerned with his distribution at times rather than penalty saves. Gordon’s not the worst keeper we’ve ever had and Rodgers obviously rates him or he’d be replaced but his passing out from the back during normal play leaves a lot to be desired. Most end up out the pitch or even the passes he does get away with, they only just manage to pass the oncoming opposition player. I get that’s obviously the way Brendan’s asking him to play but my god the hearts in the mouth most weeks watching him do it.
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27 Dec 2018 08:19:21
I am a big fan of Craig Gordon. He might have a poor record for saving penalties, but so what, he is still a fantastic goalkeeper.
For me he is the 2nd best keeper we have had in the last 40 years, number 1 being Fraser Forster. Celtic supporters have always gave keepers a hard time, Forster included, even though he was also a great goalkeeper.
The one exception was Boruc, who at times was good but he turned out to be a calamity, he gave me the fear. I always felt he could do anything and not get criticised, even though he was overweight and took advantage of our great support.
Bonner could also be good but I would still rather have our present no.1 Craig Gordon.
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27 Dec 2018 09:14:12
Got to agree Leon, I’m a big fan as well. I get Garry’s point about his distribution but he’s a great shot stopper and the fact that Chelsea wanted to sign him not too long ago speaks volumes about his ability in my opinion. The fact that he decided to stay at Celtic is even more significant for me. I’m happy for us to let the Dembeles and Armstrong’s of this world leave but we need to hold onto the men that understand what it means to play for Celtic.
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27 Dec 2018 09:15:01
I agree Leon about Boruc taking advantage of our support and pretty much said that after he had left with his lack of training and being overweight however Gordon is not a great keeper he’s weak wrists always palms balls into danger areas decision making is atrocious he takes too long to decide on a simple pass bringing the team under pressure then the stupid floated passes that are asking for trouble not to mention he can’t command his area a might have been a bit over critical but it’s my blood pressure that goes through the roof anytime the balls near him! Yes he can have good reactions at times but it’s not enough.
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27 Dec 2018 09:50:35
Gordon gives me the fear i don't mind the passing from the back but it has to be on if not hoof it but he'd rather give away a goal before he hoofs it very strange.
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27 Dec 2018 10:28:27
He let in the least goal each season because we dominate the ball for 90% of the time we play in Scotland.
Gordon second best keeper we've had in 40 years 😂😂😂😂
I can even remember him winning us a game like forster against Barcelona boruc against man Utd Marshall against Barca. He couldn't lace big packies boot.
He is a good shot stopper at times but that's it.
He can't come for a cross
He doesn't command his box
He causes panic (like yesterday) by thinking he's Messi
His distribution is worse than my 6 year old daughter
You can see a mile away how much calmer the defence is when Bain has the ball at his feet.
If we want to take the next step the Gordon needs replaced.
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27 Dec 2018 12:59:13
Don't think Gorden is perfect but I think it's harsh to say he has never won us a game with his shot stopping ability ass I can certainly say he has kept us in games with some fantastic stops which for me translates into contributing to us winning the game. I dn't think its fair to compare him to other goalkeepers either as without wanting to criticise our present defence I don't think it compares even to what Forster had in fron of himm.
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27 Dec 2018 16:59:25
It’s funny that for months I was reading a constant string of posts criticising our defence despite the fact we lost fewer goals than everybody else. Now it’s the goalie getting it and he only concedes less goals than the rest because of what’s in front of him. You couldnae make it up.
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26 Dec 2018 21:15:27
Sinclair's finished and Edouard was a waste of money. Roger's signings have been woeful. oh wait a minute, they're both superb, that Brendan Rogers is a genius.
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26 Dec 2018 21:58:43
Couldn’t believe Rogic didn’t get taken off and CalMac got subbed but not sure if it was because Lewis Ferguson seemed to be man marking him the subs made the big difference let’s hope KT is fit for Saturday but I fear not.
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26 Dec 2018 21:59:47
Shocking line up and substitutes COYBIG
Playing Sinclair and bring eddy on.
Total joke.
I for one will be sending a strongly worded email to both Rogers and lawwel over these selections.
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26 Dec 2018 22:24:31
Campsie I wasn't happy about rogic staying on with McGregor going off but at end of the day Rogers was right and I was wrong. Eddy has a major say in all 3 goals.
Manager changed the game and won the points.
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26 Dec 2018 23:19:04
Just like he did when we went down to 10 men at Ibrox last season. In Brendan we trust.
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27 Dec 2018 09:52:38
Rogic and McGregor were awful yesterday but we got there and the manager proved his worth again HH.
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27 Dec 2018 11:14:32
CalMac was pretty much man marked for the length of time he was on park however when he did get free his clever run set up the goal Christie’s ball was excellent but CalMac is a worker Rogic has been playing the last wee while as if he has diving boots on. Can only think BR was trying to throw a bit of confusion in with taking CalMac off with Ferguson man marking him.
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26 Dec 2018 20:38:53
Just want to say well done to the team, we have had a tough start to the year undoubtedly with the transfer window, going out of the champs league and some poor form. But out of all of that, we have qualified from our euro group, won another cup and sit proudly at the top. Potentially 6 points clear with a game in hand come Saturday . Away fixtures every time we have had a midweek euro game, but every time a challenge is put before this team and the management we seem to raise our standard and no one domestically can live with us. Once we get a well earned rest after Saturday, some new players to help with the schedule our dominance will continue. It’s great to be a Tim at the minute.
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26 Dec 2018 19:26:20
I have been critical of sinclair this season even though he is right footed playing on the left. The way he drifted in and out from the touchline is similar to the movements from Forrest. It must be something he has worked on in training. Im delighted for him today.
Thats why we are champions and roll on saturday.
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26 Dec 2018 22:39:36
His goal ratio is great his work rate and teamwork is great . he is frustrating at times when he stays out wide and struggles to get by his first man or deliver a cross but the boy never hides and always tries to get involved . I thought like most people his form had dipped and he wasn't producing the same as fist season . but then noticed / realised his effort for the team outside his goal. does the wide left role stifle him?
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26 Dec 2018 17:54:12
A great result from what I believe will be the trickier of the 2 encounters . didn't Hayes play well in the LB position when he came on . Hairy enough at times . Sinclair shaping up this last 3 or 4 games and Eddies game when he came on, glimpses of the Eddie we want .
Plenty of positives going into the next game .
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26 Dec 2018 17:25:17
Might be too many guinesses. but I think shinnie would be s good squad addition for us.
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26 Dec 2018 17:49:28
He is no better than Johnny Hayes and he I wish he was not one of our squad members.
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26 Dec 2018 17:55:05
Far too many bud, you need to lie down.
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26 Dec 2018 18:17:20
You need to stop mine sweeping at last orders drb.
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26 Dec 2018 19:35:26
He's no where near as good as Hayes. Hayes was excellent today.
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26 Dec 2018 20:06:17
Kev, spot on I’ve had a Guinness or two or five too many as well but Hayes was very good today if not excellent and has earned the right to play at left back ahead of Izzy definitely and KT if he’s injured.
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26 dec 2018 22:41:09
your right, too many guinness.
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26 dec 2018 22:43:53
Yip too many guinesses 😆.
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26 Dec 2018 16:58:10
So if we beat them on Saturday and win our game in hand it leaves us 9 points clear. Title challenge we were told? HH.
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26 Dec 2018 17:51:11
The only reason Rangers are any where near us is that we have failed to find consistency this season. Every time we have had the chance to extend our lead after a big result we have failed to do so.
That being said I do expect us to start opening up a gap, starting Saturday.
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26 Dec 2018 20:44:18
Let's also not forget that the International breaks have interrupted us when we started a flow.
We are 3 points ahead and should stop sevco.
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26 dec 2018 22:42:22
They are starting to turn on special agent Stevie G already. A good spanking at crumble dome in front of all those people and he'll be gone by end of year.
😂.
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26 Dec 2018 16:34:35
Aberdeen kept their shape and fought hard until they ran out of steam. We were devastating in the last 15 minutes and 4-3 doesn't reflect our dominance.
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26 Dec 2018 16:39:26
4-1 would have though. 2nd was never a penalty and a foul in the box for the 3rd.
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26 Dec 2018 19:16:27
Don't think first was a pen . ball was played from mginn and it was momentum theat took Izzy into him rather than a bad tackle.
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26 Dec 2018 19:37:05
Dpr it was a stone wall penalty.
Izzy made a late challenge and played the man in the box.
It was an idiotic challenge.
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26 Dec 2018 21:03:41
Just starting watching replay . iil watch again and reply.
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26 dec 2018 22:47:54
Still think it's harsh . Izzy dives in to block which he didn't need to I agree but no tackle or contact his momentum catches a falling mginn and trailing leg brings him on top of him . see why refs or linesman i believe has given it though . as in real time all he's seeing is the trailing leg and mginn falling on him . anyway thankfully it didn't affect result. anyway onwards to Saturday and wrapping up the league . I'll pour you vodka kev and drink it for you, cheers .
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26 Dec 2018 16:24:48
Massive three points. Big Eddie exceptional when he came on. Sinky took his goals really well and will be a huge confidence boost before Mordor.
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26 Dec 2018 18:40:37
I said exactly the same thing! Edouard was superb when he came on, Sinclair is really finding his form and thank God Benkovic recovered!
Great effort by Collum to try and deny us three points.
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26 Dec 2018 15:55:29
Jeez, my heart was in my mouth watching that. How many times was Gordon fouled at the corner they scored their third goal?
Stick it up ye, sheep . stick it right up ye. HH.
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26 Dec 2018 15:54:10
Absolutely brilliant from Sinclair and The Bhoys today. Got to give Sinclair all the praise going, for all I've slated him his last couple of performances have been top notch which he'll hopefully carry into next weeks game.
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26 Dec 2018 16:18:54
Honest mistake no doubt. Same as the 2nd penalty.
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26 Dec 2018 16:40:13
Sorry Garry this reply wasn't for your post!
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26 Dec 2018 14:50:36
This is awful. It's like we have two sides. The home team who can be at times devastating playing with a real high tempo and quality and our away team who are look clueless, play with zero tempo and are happy to pass the ball along our back 4 20 yards from our own goal inviting Aberdeen onto us. I hope to god we Buck up our ideas for the second half.
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26 Dec 2018 15:00:49
Gordon and boyata are the ss beat players they're guvi g me the fear.
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26 Dec 2018 15:01:55
We need better game management with stupid mistakes. Craig Gordon thinks he’s messi and it invites pressure onto us.
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26 Dec 2018 15:17:42
Don’t know what other posters thoughts are, but I’m getting pi##ed off with team selection away from home. what will Mikey Johnston be thinking Jonny Hayes ahead of him come on Brendan get the finger out and keep the momentum of a winning team going. oldkilly.
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26 Dec 2018 16:15:03
How is Jonny Hayes ahead of Johnston?
Surely you didn’t want Mikey to come on and play left back?
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26 Dec 2018 16:20:58
To be fair I thought Hayes played well and shored up the left where Izzy was caught lacking. I did think we should have started with Mikey given his form.
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26 Dec 2018 16:22:43
Oldkilly
Thought swapping Hayes for Izzy was a excellent substitution. Would you have honestly put young Micky Johnston in at left back. Thought Brendans substitutes won us that game.
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26 Dec 2018 16:50:54
Well am glad Rodgers is the manager and not oldkilly.
Aberdeen would have been over the moon if we played micky Johnstone at left back.
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26 Dec 2018 17:27:39
I never suggested Mikey Johnston be on at left back, we had a defender in Anthony Ralston on the bench, yes I know he is a right back but I would rather have a defender replaced with a defender. Over the past few months Johnny Hayes has been on everyone’s list of getting the bullet for not being good enough, had he made a mistake today which led to a goal he and the manager would have got dogs abuse. oldkilly.
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26 Dec 2018 18:17:08
Merry Xmas all. Oldkilly c'mon your basing your argument on a what if instead of just giving praise. He didn't do anything to give away a goal, Ajer did and he IS a defender. Beginning to hate sheep as much as the orcs, especially that moany faced McInnis.
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27 Dec 2018 00:24:28
How old are you old killy? Too old to make any sense what so ever it would seem.
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27 Dec 2018 10:30:20
It was the correct sub as we won. Hayes could have made a mistake but didn't. And to be constructive, Eddy came off the near post at an Aberdeen corner which resulted in Ferguson scoring. No-one is slaughtering him. 🍀🍀.
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26 Dec 2018 14:41:41
Another game where the ref gives our players no protection again.
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26 Dec 2018 12:26:17
Just a thought, Timothy Weah looks a real player, i've heard its only a 6 month deal just wondering if a year long loan can start in January? Surely would be a good option for all parties involved, means he gets plenty experience in europe (hopefully champions league)
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26 Dec 2018 12:38:07
I heard it was an 18 month deal but I'll believe it if and when it happens.
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26 Dec 2018 08:40:42
Was looking at some of the Fran Sol footage there and have to say he looks very decent indeed, a right handful. Scores all types of goals, great movement. A striker that will lead the line just perfect for what we are looking for in my opinion, this guy is apparently out of contract end of season. I'd take him any day 🍀💚 HH.
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26 Dec 2018 10:42:45
Remided me of cadette.
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26 Dec 2018 08:32:06
The kid Wean I think is pretty similar to Sinky, maybe a bit more versatile and a bit stronger. Do we really need this kid I'm not so sure. I'd be looking to develop young Mickey rather someone else's property. I'd also rather bring in someone with a bit of experience.
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26 Dec 2018 10:54:01
There's got to be someone coming in 'permanently' as well. and since when did Celtic not fancy a winger?
The only thing that pisses me off here is the mooted 6 month term which is a bit pointless from our point of view. Is this to win the league? Just don't see the angle.
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26 Dec 2018 10:55:03
Mikey can play both wings, up front and attacking mid so I agree develop him rather other clubs player . I think Morgan can become a player for us . just needs a run . coming through youths we have good players ie Johnstone and Ralston ready to step in and bhoys mcinroy . Henderson not far away. getting youngsters from other clubs is all well and good . but if we don't give our own a chance we won't see what they can do.
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26 Dec 2018 11:03:19
Cav I’m not a big fan of loan deals either my friend but a six month deal which potentially helps us progress in Europe and secure the title seems a reasonable angle to me.
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