Celtic Banter Archive May 25 2016

 

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25 May 2016 21:49:48
Why would we just release a player who has just signed and has potential value if given a pre-season! Makes no sense.

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26 May 2016 00:29:10
Cole surely not?

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26 May 2016 09:01:20
Cole like a few are a waste of money the board must be fed up paying retirement money for these players. I must admit if reports are true about Danny Graham wanted does not appeal to me. So Ed is there any true in this report.

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26 May 2016 11:35:59
Think he was meaning Scott Allan someone posted that they heard he was getting released lol its on the rumor page.

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26 May 2016 11:46:34
Graham I think would be decent but tbh I would look for better. Obviously having worked with Rodgers twice before he knows what he offers more than any of us and if true and signed I hope discovers his form of his Swansea days.

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26 May 2016 13:18:43
We are trying to make a purge to get into the champs league, which means we need quality players, Graham couldn't score in the championship never mind the champs league.

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26 May 2016 13:22:16
Kieran. graham has only scored 118 goals in his career .1 in 4 average. his best spell was in the championship around 5 year ago finishing at swansea . since leaving swansea he has done nothing . bang average. worse still if a favorite of br would he start ahead of griffiths. I thought this appointment wad going to stop these average signings.

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27 May 2016 00:32:56
Deep river we have not signed him or anyone so maybe wait till we sign someone before complaining about average signings.

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27 May 2016 00:51:29
I'll complain before during and after if I so desire.

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25 May 2016 21:47:29
Alrite guys any thoughts on what formation br will likely go with?

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25 May 2016 23:52:23
I think he will change it depending on the opposition but I think in general it would be 4.4.2.

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26 May 2016 00:26:35
He plays all sorts but he likes his formations like his fluffy. Top heavy. Few attacking forwards on the way I think.

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26 May 2016 09:41:31
love him to go with a 3-4-1-2, got the players for it atm, i would feel confident going into the qualifiers with a team of gordon, eric jozo mulgrew/ teirney, brown, armstrong roberts, GMS, rogic/ christie, griffiths CKR/ new striker,

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26 May 2016 20:22:36
Does he not like a 4-3-3 but had to adapt as Liverpool had injuries and no full backs at one point?

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25 May 2016 21:18:06
Great to see rodgers bringing in his own people good sign that he is his own man and not getting told who to bring in now for some players in and out good times ahead .

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25 May 2016 17:19:25
49 years to the very day Celtic Football Club were the first British team to win the European Cup. This anniversary must never be forgotten, on here or in Scotland.
Cannot wait until number 50 comes up.
"John you are IMMORTAL" (words of an ex Liverpool manager, how ironic on this anniversary we have another ex Liverpool manager to guide us in Europe)
Simpson, Craig and Gemmell, Murdoch, Mcneil and Clark, Johnstone, Wallace, Chalmers, Auld and Lennox.
God bless the Lisbon Lions and Big Jock Stein. HAIL HAIL.

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25 May 2016 18:52:17
Well said Tim alloy especially when you think that it was 11 players within a 10-12 mile radius we set the standards and gave everyone in Britain the hope of achieving what the hoops had accomplished more than just a club hail hail.

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25 May 2016 20:05:54
Not all the lions where from 10-12 miles from Parkhead.

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25 May 2016 20:40:25
Valuable input there Kev83. Keep up the good work.

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25 May 2016 21:44:36
Kev83 is right though PedroCelt. Bobby Lennox was from Saltcoats.

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25 May 2016 22:05:48
Over 30 miles away dn30

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25 May 2016 22:35:59
Greatest ever Celtic team and each one not only a fantastic player but true Celtic men any gentleman. I always mind meeting Jinky outside a wee miners club (was off school and out with my dad in the truck on his work deliveries) and he's like that's Jinky Johnstone and I was like, no way and he said it is you should ask 4 his autograph, when I did Jinky was like sure son, still treasure that moment as it was an honour. Big billy met at seamill hydro, lovely genuine guy and he allowed so much access to the team at the time to fans there, mcstay, Elliott, white, miller etc etc both times I was probably between 12 and 14, the lion's will forever be cherished by those who saw them play and those who know the history of these great men. Hail hail.

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25 May 2016 22:59:24
Totally agree with you. It wasn't just the best Celtic team, but the most down to earth, humble gents you could meet.
I was 11 when I watched the Lisbon final on TV and was lucky enough to meet most of them at supporters rallies, award nights or outside the stadium on match days.
Bobby Lennox was out jogging around Saltcoates during a close-season and stopped to chat and sign my sweetie cigarette box. Big Billy, Tommy Gemmell and Bertie Auld were also good humoured and generous with their time.
Others were modest, polite and appreciative of the esteem we held this unique group of legends.
I consider myself very fortunate to have seen them.

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25 May 2016 23:44:17
I've met a few of the lions at functions n stuff and always felt they had the patience and time to talk to me, even though they must've answered the same questions over and over again. Got to say though that they should've in my opinion been paid a wage from celtic for a lifetime for their achievements. What would it have cost in the grand scheme of things? Boringigtors wage or a fraction of it.

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26 May 2016 18:59:35
Agree stephboy 4 all they've done for the club and Scotland too, after all they put us and England on the map and at that time certainly changed the course of European football as well as showed others how football should be played, attack attack attack. I'm not old enough to have seen them live in the flesh, I'm 36, but I have watched everything Celtic you can get your hands on and I mind treasuring the original the Celtic story on video that my Dad has, still got it to this day, and watching the greatest ever team in my opinion, not just Celtic team, still makes me feel how special I did that first time I ever watched the final against inter, that to support and be brought up critic was something special and the lion's were a big part of that. I think Celtic should have had every one of them as ambassadors for the club on a wage and really thanked them, after all I can't think of a player since that deserves to be paid more than them or deserves to be rated as worth more in this overpaid overprotected modern game, there are a number of truly great players at various clubs now and over the years but the lion's for me were just special, could be as my dad was such a big fan of them. Hail hail.

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25 May 2016 17:05:45
Just been amnounced Chris Davies is the new no 2, don't know much about him but at least Brendan picked him so onwards and upwards HH.

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25 May 2016 15:57:28
Well stood in a long queue at paradise today to renew my season tickets for me and the 2 kids hope this season is more exciting than last really looking forward to who we bring in and having that new mob in the league this year. Now we have stopped guessing who the manager will be time to start guessing on new players exciting times ahead hail hail.

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25 May 2016 17:51:35
Agree with everything apart from the new mob part. Their club died but the stench remains and the sectarian songs and all the other garbage that comes with them is nothing to look forward to.
I know it's a fact of life that they will make their inaugural appearance in the top flight but I foresee more negatives than positives by their presence.

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25 May 2016 15:38:57
Can't believe Brendan has been in the job 48 hours and we still haven't signed anybody! Anybody for a protest? Ha.

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26 May 2016 13:51:27
hahahaha.

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25 May 2016 13:00:28
I was looking at the fact that Izzy has 2 years left on his contract . Now I know we have a glut of midfielders, however, what about Izzy at LB and using KT left mid going forward, the bhoy has pace and can make the cross in required.
Without going to £m on another player.

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25 May 2016 13:22:10
I would have izzy at lw I like him going forward but not so much at lb Tierney is a much better defender.

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{Ed007's Note - Izaguirre's final ball is awful, why would anyone want him playing as a winger? People are just trying to find a spot for a player they like without even thinking about whether he can do the job, you wouldn't play Lustig at RW so why play Izaguirre at LW?
RD was blasted for playing players out of position and now people are encouraging it. Izaguirre's 30 now and is a bit long in the tooth to learn to play a new position.
We should be looking at a LW the same calibre of Roberts on the right instead of unbalancing the team by playing 2 LBs on the left.}

25 May 2016 13:47:33
Just seeing Boro are getting Fischer from Ajax for £3.5m. He would have been ideal if we had of gotten in first. RD suggested Elyounoussi and was told where to go. There are really good wingers available that aren't out of reach.

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{Ed007's Note - Fischer would have been a fantastic signing for us, JT. That's the kind of calibre we need to be looking at, any players we sign must be better than what we have and at the level of going straight into the first team.}

25 May 2016 14:10:14
I was just commenting on what would be better from the original post I was just remembering his ball into the box for hooper lol. I agree with you on that 1 ed I see wee are linked with another central midfielder from spurs Tom Carroll I think his name is do you know anything about him.

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{Ed007's Note - Carroll's a tidy player from what I've seen of him, comfortable on the ball with an eye for a pass.}

25 May 2016 14:57:24
We have Calvin miller who can play play left wing / right wing/ striker. and any time I've seen him he looks class . get him in . said before we have the most talent right now than I can remember at youth level . look at our own youngsters before looking at other teams youngsters .

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25 May 2016 15:13:04
I really don't see what people do in izzy.
He can't defend and can't cross very well.
Was over the moon when I heard he was leaving.

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25 May 2016 15:34:27
In terms of wingers i'd take a look at the bosnian edin visca who plays for istanbul basksehir, scored 14 league goals along with many assists in the turkish super lig. don't know a big pile about how much he would cost/ how much he's on etc. But there seems to be interest from the big turkish clubs for him.

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25 May 2016 16:22:18
I don't see what other people see in izzy
He can't defend and can't really cross.
I was over the moon when I heard he was leaving.

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25 May 2016 16:37:04
Oops thought my reply hadn't went through

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25 May 2016 14:31:56
Hi Ed : Given the fact that Pep is taking over @ Man City, I really don`t see Patrick Roberts getting a look in there. I know we have 1 full season to watch his progression, however at the end, do you think there is any chance of us buying the player or an indication that he would want to stay at CP.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think Roberts will have much future at City but it will depend on how much £ they would be looking at for him. I'd like to think we'd be interested if he was available to leave City permanently and at his age he could spend a few years up here, hopefully playing in the CL, and see who fancies him then.}

25 May 2016 17:10:07
Just been on sly news young Miller signs new 3 year deal.

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25 May 2016 17:55:21
Izzy is bit like Mulgrew, Gordon and Commons. On their day they gave us some brilliant service, but I think they have struggled to recapture their best and it's probably time to move on. Brown may also fall into this category if last season was an indication?

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25 May 2016 18:43:29
I would try and sign out of favour skertel from Liverpool play a back 3 of simmovich skertel and Shevchenko with listing N Tierney as wing bacos what's your thoughts everyone.

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25 May 2016 19:55:13
I have always enjoyed izzy over the years as he seems to love the club, however his defending is always suspect.
KT has burst onto the seen at exactly the right time, allowing izzy to leave with good memories and best wishes from the support.
In KT we have a potential world class defender, why would we try to sho horn him as a left winger?
For me a winger should possess flair and style with a wee bit of arrogance. To carry it off they must have the mentality (for me GMS lacks this) . KT has power, desire, loves a sliding tackle and a solid work ethic. For me the perfect no nonsense requirements for a defender - so let's keep him there!
Hail hail.

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25 May 2016 22:08:25
Couldn't agree more island. If izzy would stay as cover that would be ideal, but from what he said after the motherwell game he's off to get more games. Can't argue with that, there's too many players at celtic content just to watch the bank balance rise without contribution so good on him for showing that some footballers put playing first.

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25 May 2016 22:36:29
I don't think we want Skirtel no matter what system we play . We already have a couple of centre defenders who are prone to make big mistakes without signing another defender who can be brilliant on occasions but at the same time make big mistakes.

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25 May 2016 11:20:59
I think you should have a look at Jonas Svensson at RB. Only player to play every game for Rosenborg (League, Cup and EL) last season, 23 years, really giving Elabdelloue a fight for the RB position in the nationalteam and has had a massive progression from last season. Maybe norwegian football's best player atm.

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25 May 2016 19:58:28
Let's hope John park reads this site!

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25 May 2016 22:09:34
Let's hope he's no longer serving celtic!

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26 May 2016 00:01:11
NR, Martin Samuelsen. Been having a little look at him this season and he's out of contract next year. Looks incredibly good technically.

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26 May 2016 09:39:07
Your right JimTim, Samuelsen had a great loan spell at Petersbourgh and is most probably going to be capped this weekend. A really great prospect, a player that can make something out of anything. I think he is hoping for a new contract at West-Ham, but that remains to be seen. You should also check out Rafik Zekhnini, LW at ODD. He is a great prospect aswell, maybe even a better than Samuelsen. I know Dortmund scouted him and is keeping him on a shortlist since their games in the EL qualification.

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{Ed001's Note - Emre Mor, what is he like? He plays in Norway right now doesn't he?}

26 May 2016 10:06:33
Sorry ED001, he play's in Denmark so i havnt heard of him i'm affraid. But googled him and looks like a good player, though. I'll check him out. 😊.

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{Ed001's Note - ah sorry, couldn't remember where it was, just noticed he is set to move this summer.}

26 May 2016 10:18:50
No problem ED! Glad to help.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, I have got some statistical analysis on him and it looks like he offers something special, but there is so much raw data can't tell you. It doesn't tell you how good/bad the level of the opposition is, how much effort they were making to stop his runs, how well positioned they were to require him to do something special or if he could just stroll through them. Many other variables are impossible to get from the raw data that an eye can assess.}

26 May 2016 10:39:06
I would check out his stats against the big teams like FC København and Brøndby. Great technical attributes, think he could turn a bit like Roberts and play the "Ødegaard" role in Celtic. But he play's for Nordskjelland, a small club with not much pressure (much like Ødegaard) and it will be interesting to see if he can evolve into a worldclass player. He is turkish though and they seem to have great mental skills.

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{Ed001's Note - ok cheers mate, even then though, without having seen them play, it is difficult to get a judge of the level of a player. Having not seen any of those teams play for a couple of seasons, it would be a complete unknown to judge him against. They might have improved massively, held the same sort of level or degraded, so it would not be much of a guide for me!}

26 May 2016 19:33:26
Anytime mate, it all changes so fast these days anyway so you can't really know how a player will react before they are in the club. i'm really excited to see how Ajer will progress outside of his comfort, and i think he has all the right attributes to succeed in Celtic.

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25 May 2016 10:52:35
i see Lee Wallace has pulled out the Scotland squad. What's his injury? A broken heart or has he just had a big fright when that big guy missed with a jab.

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25 May 2016 09:31:45
will find out very soon just how seriously D. D is but do feel he feels he has taken his eye of the ball and it's time to put it right.

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25 May 2016 18:59:01
I think DD will spend big this summer to help us in europe and to show sevco we mean business hail hail and the future is definitely green and white.

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25 May 2016 10:03:31
was looking at the list of bosmans for this season and there's a few good players there, don't think we could get them if our wage cap stays the same, has anyone seen enough of junior hoilett?, remember he was a good player a few back but haven't seen him for yrs, free, 26 yrs old, natural LM, worth taking a punt on?

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25 May 2016 08:28:52
Interesting words by Harry Redknapp.

"Dermot Desmond is top man for me, I like him very much and I know what Celtic means to him - he tells me often enough whenever we see each other. "

"If, as it seems, he's going to have a real go again then it's going to be incredibly exciting for all Celtic fans. Dermot is a serious businessman and not someone prepared to ever settle for second best. "

I will never go back on anything I have said over the last few seasons for me DD and PL didn't need to downsize we had the chance to do the exact opposite and create so much of a gap between us and the rest we would never be caught. However the chance is still there to do it this summer so i'm really hoping this is the summer where DD becomes more involved and starts using us as his club not his toy. let's see him at AGM etc, let's see him show what this great club means to him. PL can take a back seat and do all he does that is good because the things he does badly does him no favours. I want to back these men i want them to make Celtic the great club it can be. no more using the death of Rangers as an excuse to downsize, When O'Neill arrived we gave him the tools to make us a team that were feared throughout Europe and other clubs would come to Celtic Park knowing they would have to fight like hell for 90 minutes to come away with a goal never mind a result. The fear factor of our fortress has gone but we can get it back. If i can back this Board after everything i have said recently i think anyone can, I guess what i am trying to say is it isn't just DD and PL that can make Celtic great again we have a part to play also. All i needed was a positive attitude from our Board and they would get the same back from me, I very rarely miss away games but i stayed away from home games last season and trust me it wasnt easy. The Board invest I invest, Whether it be 2 season tickets and the usual raid the superstore for everything possible then so be it. The signs are good and it can only have a positive affect on us all. I think we have the right man in Rodgers to take us forward and i have enjoyed listening to everything he has said since he arrived, The emails by the Club are also refreshing and a nice touch so long may it continue. 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10.Let's do this Celtic!

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25 May 2016 10:05:39
great post stan.

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25 May 2016 10:32:14
That's why for ne, Stan, I'm not on cloud 9 like a lot of fans who seemingly think everything is going to be alright now. The playing side of things may improve, I'm not saying they won't; but the attitude of the club needs to change and hopefully stumping up for a reputable manager is just the start. We need a proper DoF too.

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25 May 2016 10:40:45
Would Harry Redknapp go down well as a DOF Jim?

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25 May 2016 10:43:39
Why do we need a DOF. We have a very competent manager now. It would be different if we still had deila or got Keane. But Rodgers doesn't need one.

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25 May 2016 12:03:13
Not sure about that marco. The model now, which works, is having somebody bridging that gap between boardroom, scouting and football development. If BR can do all that, like an old school 'manager' then fair enough. As long as it's not JP influencing PL I'll be happy. I still don't believe for one minute PL saying RD was in control of all aspects.

As for Redknapp Stan, I'd be inclined to say no. Spurs are getting much better players through with Baldini there, who took over just after HR left I think.

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25 May 2016 12:08:08
Can't say if we need one or not but haven't the top clubs in Europe been using them for years. A DOF can oversee every aspect of the football side appointing one doesn't mean they are in control of the 1st team and will be looking over Rodgers shoulder and interfering. Maybe someone with more knowledge can post what roles they would bring or be involved in.

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25 May 2016 12:03:13
Not sure about that marco. The model now, which works, is having somebody bridging that gap between boardroom, scouting and football development. If BR can do all that, like an old school 'manager' then fair enough. As long as it's not JP influencing PL I'll be happy. I still don't believe for one minute PL saying RD was in control of all aspects.

As for Redknapp Stan, I'd be inclined to say no. Spurs are getting much better players through with Baldini there, who took over just after HR left I think.

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25 May 2016 12:08:08
Can't say if we need one or not but haven't the top clubs in Europe been using them for years. A DOF can oversee every aspect of the football side appointing one doesn't mean they are in control of the 1st team and will be looking over Rodgers shoulder and interfering. Maybe someone with more knowledge can post what roles they would bring or be involved in.

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25 May 2016 12:33:01
Sorry Ed I don't know how I managed to post the same thing twice.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries fixed it.}

25 May 2016 14:33:13
Jimtim and stan19 agree with both of you in regards certain points and aspects. If br likes to do it all, without the need for a dof then I'd be fine with that but if not then yeh maybe a dof in if it is to the benefit of the club, for instance someone with European experience, even international and an eye for a good player, at least at giving the manager various optionshowever, as well as seeing the club ethos, mentality, culture, as well as youth coming through and being ready for the first team, sports science is all working as it should. however I'd like to see the manager bring in his own players. Keep harking back to it with Rd but when u buy the players u no what u need and want, who can play how u want, and also their attitude has to be right, meaning u don't get stuck with guys that don't have it, can't play how u need and are time wasters or just not good enough. Also goes the other way, prefer the manager to have the say over who leaves, as keeping bad eggs just causes an atmosphere. Hail hail.

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25 May 2016 16:06:48
Can't disagree with any of that Bigshaw.

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25 May 2016 08:24:17
I have been out in Turkey on holiday, but have been constantly using the WiFi in every bar, restraunt, etc etc. got to say I'm happy with the appointment of br. as I've only seen glimpses of press conferences is it safe to say we will probably head into the first qualifiers with the same players as last season? The celtic bar is definitely the busiest bar out here, every night it's bouncing, especially Scottish cup final day. This site is a godsend for keeping up to date with celtic news, views and opinions. keep up the good work guys. HH.

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24 May 2016 23:22:22
1st time post but long time viewer.
I'm really happy with the appointment of BR and I hope that he gets free reign over his backroom staff and player signings. Dermot Desmond has pushed the boat out here and put his hand in his pocket (not b4 time) to try and put us back on the map. After watching the press conference, Scott Brown will remain club captain but will still need to prove himself to be a 1st team starter. BR is big on youth so I think we might see young Kelleher getting his chance owing to the rise of KT. Can't wait to see what impact BR has on the dressing room, but I'm sure we'll be on our way to 10 in a row! HH.

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{Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard buddy.}

25 May 2016 01:39:34
I hope for many of the same things but BR will have to change his attitude to youth development and I hope he does, not watching the youth games or u21 stuck with me a bit, true or not.
There were a few negatives banded about as they often are, hi lighting his squad filling and squeezing youth out. Not much difference to what has been going on here for years and numerous other clubs so for those that voiced it get over it (myself included) .
I'm feeling really positive about this appointment and I hope that lines have finally been drawn. For youth to even be considered we have to have a few stars that can easily carry them if they have a bad game. KT is a rarity and we are spoiled to have such a consistent young player on our books. BR could get something extra out of some of our existing squad without a doubt. As far as recruitment goes It's bad timing with the euros and our rebuild as it's being branded.
I'm hoping we get the finger out and sign 3 in any position that will start and chalk up 30 or 40 full games in our 11. Can't place the quote but you need 5-6 on form players and a solid team before you really do something. Last year we had two. That has to change. I'm looking forward to it.
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