Celtic Banter Archive July 25 2014

25 Jul 2014 20:59:04
Well bhoys and ghirls I'm saddened today . every where I look it's van djik or Forster going to some small English side with lots and lots of cash, offering 1/3 rd of what they expect for their own player . We as celtic supporters are being made to look like mugs in my opinion in one hnd they beg for our season book money while at the same time sell off our own assets with little or nothing coming into the club . We may be playing some nice football but we have no chance in the champions league or even the Europa league without squad improvement fact . Even the league and the cup competitions, every team no matter how big or small in the scottish premier league have improved there squad with little money needed it brings a freshness in . so why not celtic? Why wait for cl qualification before we buy and then it's a risk if the player is up to it or fit enough with no pre season with the club a poor way to do business . Good financially poor for the football team and fans .

Celtic always . but getting very impatient and fed up now.

We have been taken for mugs for a while now, Unless supporters show true unrest towards it nothing will change.!
We have been short changed for the last 2 yrs by the board but qualifying for champions league papers over the cracks, will it take being knocked out before league stages for some supporters to realise FFS. !?

Spending 6-8mil on 2-3 players at qualifying stage might not guarantee but better than going with what we have (not great) and risking not qualifying!
I'm not in business but if we don't qualify for groups we will need to sell, so that means the board have accounted for money not guaranteed lol.
Most supporters on here are regulars and still question what's going on!

This is a constant moan every year by Celtic fans . I would have thought all Celtic fans of at least five years vintage would have got the message by now that the board is not a buying club . That's part of the Celtic lifestyle, so it's not worth moaning about .

{Ed007's Note - Should we just accept it and keep our opions to ourself then, be like you and bury our head in the sand, swallowing any bit of BS that comes from the board and pretend everything's hunky dory, even when it clearly isn't!}

Don't hold back Ed. Lol - your saying what 99.9% of us are thinking, the objective of our club (under current leadership) will not change until PL leaves or Desmond too too sells his shares and gives someone else a crack at the whip. That is the reality, I'm not one bit happy with it as we show no ambition as far as I'm concerned. But I'm kind of used to it. if that makes sense.

{Ed007's Note - I just can't get my head round fans who don't want to see a reasonable investment in the squad and more importantly see the club progress back to it's rightful place as one of Europe's elite clubs and consistently compete at that level. CFC should be aiming for 2nd place in the CL groups or at the very least 3rd and dropping down to the EL being the whipping boys and seeing qualification as some sort of triumph is like celebrating having only one sore ball after a street fight.}

I think we have lost the premise a wee bit and become too focused on sustainability. We will always have to sell to maintain a level above the system we are forced to participate in. However, IMO, we have crossed the line by damaging the team in pursuit of profit. Two seasons ago we had a decent display and the makings of a team which could go to the next level. Our powers that be, sold the nucleus of that team and we went backwards (further than we were before building up that team). I'm sure NL told the board what he needed but they did not back him to the level required. Same with Strachan. RD will walk as we'll if the club don't try to meet his ambitions. I think RD will come good but will he get to keep his players and build on success? GS and NL did'nt and it's the same board so I doubt it. Not saying the board are bad but time to introduce some fresh faces there (just like they do with the team).

@2) as a child my hero was Paul Mcstay the most underrated midfielder scotland has ever produced fact. I followed his career right until retirement my sons are 10 and 7 it's hard and I feel sorry for them when every season they lose one of there heroes . EVERY Season! That's fine if a good replacement is coming in but as of late nothing is or has happened and I find it sad . It's our club our team we have the right to question why.
Celtic always.

26 Jul 2014 08:45:07
I don't like having a go at anyone on here as it is a platform for everyone to voice their opinions. I have to say though @2 that sort of acceptance of mediocrity is baffling. I don't know if it's youth, naivety or a combination of both but as a paying customer you should always expect the best. I get mighty pissed off when I see this happening year in year out. There is no phrase that drives me mental like, "fits our signing policy". I expect that packaging shit from the board but not the fans.

Tiny Tim makes a good point, the Club is playing with fire. It appears they can't sell our best players quick enough. If you put profit before the product then it will come to the point when people say enough is enough. You can fool some of the people some of the time and all that.

We can't stop players heads being turned by the epl teams and every time we get a good one this will happen, but what we can do is charge them epl money if eg, lovren goes to liverpool for 20 mill then that's the starting price for vvd, if they don't pay they don't get our players, if they want them for the self proclaimed best league in the world then make them pay accordingly

The demise in standards and quality has been ongoing while the support have been duped and taken for granted.
There has been a distinct lack of star quality at Celtic Park for too long and even in the 90's - when we had a long barren spell - there was quality and entertaining players that excited the fans and sold replica shirts etc.
The current squad is inadequate and has failed to totally dominate in a one-horse league and is ill equipped for the CL.
The prices being charged to watch Celtic is not value for money when we keep off-loading any hint of talent we acquire or produce.

JJ

I may be wrong here, hooper didn't want to stay wanyama ditto, kelvin Wilson was homesick and wanted to go back to England.what were the board supposed to do tell them they are staying and then walk away for nothing as long as the epl come calling we just can't compete, as big as we are we are a poor second financially.killy.

{Ed007's Note - It's the quality of replacements that concerns me though, Killy. We all know we will lose our best players but we are replacing them with inferior players, why hasn't there been interest in any of the Bosman's that have been available this summer?
We've done well in that department in the past, but the difference is we paid top dollar to get Wilson, Ledley and Matthews in, it's obvious that the club is lowering wages and are unwilling to pay the going rate nowadays or that little extra required to snap up Bosman signings.
Our signing of VVD and Johansen proves you don't need to spend £5/6 million for quality if you shop around, it's really only when you start looking at attackers/strikers you get into the £5+ million bracket.
Pedro will have his Rosary out that RD can turn around the careers of Pukki, Balde and Boerrigter, and that Tony Watt screws the head, if they do it will be 'they're like new signings' patter that gets wheeled out.}

It's very simple to me, muttering away every transfer season about the board only creates more negative thoughts and more negative thinkers .
Try doing something to change the board's attitude to spending and then maybe more support will be given

{Ed007's Note - So just bury your head in the sand instead of getting people talking about what's wrong..... I don't know if you're on the wide up, are only 14 or really are as cerebrally underdeveloped as you come across. You're the only person I know who so blindly backs anything the board do, and for the simple reason that it's Celtic. Half your posts don't even make any sense and just get deleted.}

Thanks for the nice comments about me . Ed . It must make you feel good knowing you can post as you do and anyone who even dares to criticise you, doesn't have a post posted for a week or more .
Of course I know this is a complete waste of time, as you won't let these comments be posted .

{Ed007's Note - You can disagree with me no probs, the only times (note the plural) you've been blocked is when your posts have been abusive towards me or others. The garbage posts you send in I delete for your own good, if other people read them you'd be even more of a laughing stock, I'm actually doing you a favour.}

Thanks for all your favours Pal, with pals like you who needs enemies?

{Ed007's Note - Don't mention it.}

OMG Yourman, a little respect for 007 please and the job he does. You really must be a love child of Peter Lawell because everyone can see the need to invest properly the money we have brought in apart from you. It looks like it will take us to fail to qualify for the CL for some to open their eyes about the lack of class in the current side

To be honest Martyc1888, I too would like us to sign a top goal scorer . But can we get someone polific to sign for us . As far as I can see when a player thinks he is of certain ability, he cannot wait until he goes to a a team in the low levels of the EPL .
Until we are able to hold on to our better players for two years and longer I hold little hope for the big signing .

25 Jul 2014 18:38:05
Did anyone else get an e-mail from the SPFL announcing the launch of the Official Petrofac Training Cup Website?

Read the second paragraph -

'Supporters can enjoy the latest news, views, information, pictures and videos from the competition for clubs in the Scottish Championship, Scottish League 1 and Scottish League 2, as well as Brora Rangers (Highland League) and Spartans (Lowland League).

On top of that there will be some incredible competitions as we bring to life arguably the most competitive tournament in Scottish football.'

Are they having a laugh, how the hell can it be a more competitive tournament than the TWO that include ALL Scottish teams - including their own top division - what's there to argue about?
It's another terrible statement from our governing body to add to the collection, I wonder if they will stick by that once the League Cup and Scottish Cup starts.}

25 Jul 2014 10:38:41
Timalloy/Wee Pat fae Posso.
Proud Beneficiaries of Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games.
My business colleague wee Pat has been working tirelessly behind the scenes to secure unique mementos of the Games.
For Sale. 1 Giant Screen (as seen at Celtic park)
why not club together with your neighbours and buy this amazing screen to watch all celtic's champions league games in your own street. Bids now been taking.
also for sale. direct from the athletes village, suites, furniture, beds, kitchen equipment etc. put your bids in now ( the first 71 bidders also get a free SCOTTY DOG)
On the cultural side of things join pat for a guided walking tour of the Calton, Dalmarnock, Shettleston etc. then for a convivial evening in his local hostelry the world famous SARA HEID (2 glasses of buckie included in price)
For an extra £5 listen as wee pat regails you with his tales of Glasgow and the Bar L.
For a further £10 Timalloy will NOT tell any of his jokes.
These tickets now on sale for this once in a lifetime event.

25 Jul 2014 12:46:47
Afternoon Ed, Firstly, "Objects in rear view mirror appear to be closer than they are" chortle chortle that is my belly laff for today will need to be claiming that 1!

My concern is the playing surface @ parkhead given what we have seen in pics, our provisions that are usually made for it during the close season ARE so much so that it always looks as good as anything else out there! Surely we will suffer from the effects of the CG!

Lastly on a previous note it might be worth while keeping a mental note for our accounts 14/15 to see if any payments (CG rent?) are registered because obviously legally it would need to be

Am just wondering mate if this "state aid" crap that musters from time to time is index linked to this mate and someone is at the madam?

Remember pal wee Fergus never forgave the council for making Celtic buy the "airspace" at the rear of the jungle! atb jb7

{Ed007's Note - The playing surface at Celtic Park will be relaid after the Commonwealth Games with new grass grown in the Netherlands, the same grass/turf used by Ajax and Real Madrid. The old turf is being transferred to Lennoxtown to see if that will help with the number of injuries we were picking up in training.
As for this state aid nonsense, it was all started by people who champion the idea that I started (and I'm still running) the Sons of Struth to help bring Sevco down from the inside - that shows you the intelligence and mentality of the bigots we're dealing with.}

Ed, you mean you don't run SOS? That's the only reason I joined. Mind you somebody told me there was free lamb chops as we'll but all I got was this stupid sheep glove puppet that had lipstick

{Ed007's Note - I don't run it no, I just put the money up for their silly wee cards and protests for $hits and giggles. The shirts we're selling are a nice little earner though. McTurdo is my brother in law and the guy on SOS has the contract for cleaning all my family's businesses. It's all done through Liverpool and Dubai addresses to Ed001 so that there is no paper trail. So Mote It Be....}