Celtic Banter Archive August 25 2015

25 Aug 2015 23:47:00
This is the reality I'm afraid of the poor ability of our squad as a whole.

Recruitment has been very poor from the moment Wanyama, Hooper etc left. From the window in which we purchased Pukki, Balde and Boeriggter up until now is why we find ourselves in this position and was the single biggest reason for Lenny's departure, he knew what was coming and didn't want to be a part of it.

It's not really about the money we have been spending because guys like Wanyama(£900K) , Forster(loan, £2M), Samaras(£2M), Ledley(Free), Hooper(2.4M), Matthews(Free), Kayal(before injury, £1.5M), Izzy(before injury, £750K), Tony Watt(£80K), Lustig(Free) etc all cost under the £3M mark each which is my point and that's a pretty good side there, even Ambrose and Kelvin Wilson did a job at the back. Malmos' team was built on a shoestring in comparison to ourselves but they've obviously spent wisely and recruited well. Spending more money will likely get us better players and I would like to see it happen but it goes to show that really our recruitment over the last 2 years has been very poor regardless of money spent.

The fact is the recruitment policy since these signings has been nothing short of shocking bar maybe Gordon, Bitton and Virgil(who were both awful tonight but in general good buys). When you add all the poor buys to the already general poor players around them who we can't get rid of simply because no one wants them then you end up with in general a poor squad which is where we are.

There's a reason the likes of Mulgrew, Brown, Stokes, Boyata, Boeriggter, Johansen, Forrest, Griffiths, Cifcti, Armstrong, GMS, Forrest, Scepovic, Scepovic, Commons are more or less in general unwanted by other clubs and we're left with them. Then there's the others who we REALLY can't get shot of so have to pay them off to get rid of them like we done with guys like Balde and Bangura and probably more. Because in the grand scheme of things they are poor players and this is highlighted and shows when we step up a few levels in Europe. We need a MASSIVE clear out but it simply can't happen because not enough teams are interested in our players with good reason and we can't afford to pay them all off their inflated wages and start again so are lumbered with them clogging up our squad.

I would love nothing more than to see the back of players like Mulgrew, Stokes, Johansen, Brown, GMS, Cifcti, Boeriggter and there are other players as well which may shock a few that I'd like to see leave but there's no point saying them because the list is almost endless(Boyata, Armstrong, Griffiths, Scepovic, Forrest) could leave as well imo. Yes I realise I've listed nearly the whole squad but this is the exact problem, we've let things slide badly over the last couple of years and we are a poor squad in general(I mean Malmo were celebrating wildly when they drew us in the Play-off which tells us where we're at).

If I'm being completely brutally honest, the only players I deemed good enough to compete at this level before the home game against Malmo that started were Bitton, Lustig, Gordon and Virgil, they're the only players I trusted to raise their games enough. That's 4 out of our starting 11 and that in the end is where the problem lies. Far too many not even passengers but liabilities, hindrances and in general very poor footballers. Also, look at the market a lot these poorer players came from, our league. The likes of Mulgrew, Armstrong, Brown(Wanyama, Ledley, Kayal and Ki have all been better over the years), GMS, Cifcti, Griffiths, Stokes. It's a bad market really and we're seeing the effects of that from what we do in Europe, you just have to look at what other SPFL teams do in Europe and ask why buying players from this market will make us any better? You get what you deserve in the end for signing players like this.

I don't know where we go from here tbh because quite frankly it's a bit of a mess and will take quite a bit of cleaning up and will need balls to be grown from both the board and Ronny. Ronny has got to drop players like Johansen, Brown and Mulgrew etc to put some kind of marker down. If he doesn't it'll be same old. Btw I seen Ronny say we'll learn from this, well he said this last year and we're still in the same position.

26 Aug 2015 00:10:05
Last year we all had a go at Berget tonight for me he was man of the match. How many times did we slag.

If Virgil is worth 10 million snap their hands off. Everyone who has a go at Izzy watch Mulgrew at left back no pace out of position. Johansen the least said the better booked every game.

Basic football pass the ball again poor, crosses poor, most annoying for me corners that don't pass first man.

Gordon have watched now agree with ed never seen a keeper who parries a ball into danger area, never comes for corners. Plus zonal marking.

I don't blame RD just think whole team never turned up no one gets pass marks tonight.

26 Aug 2015 00:34:43
Think you post makes no sense,'spending more money will likely get us better players',spending more money will get you more expensive players not better players,and what have you got against Brown?,he'd walk into most teams in the EPL,,the only one to blame for this debacle is Ronnie,I think he is a very good fitness trainer and dietician and motivational speaker,and maybe one day he will become a very good football manager,but he needs an old head as his assistant,someone who can point out the not so obvious as well as the obvious,Collins was probably the wrong appointment as assistant,but what do I know?

26 Aug 2015 01:03:12
Don't be so deluded, Scott Brown could walk into most EPL teams? Do you really believe that? Wanyama, Kayal, Ki and Ledley have all been better CMs over the last 5 years than Scott Brown which says everything. There's a reason he's never gone down south because he knows he'd be found out. He's as poor and limited as they come. Great in a CL stare off competition but not CL football. His passing is poor and so is his all round general play. He rarely scores and assists and is supposed to be a leader but I don't see it. For the highest paid player in our team he simply isn't good enough.

It's fans like yourself who need to wake up to these jokers that play for us and realise that they aren't all that good. I understand you may like the hardman Broony image but if you watch him on the field then you'll realise what i'm talking about. His passing is beyond shocking, constantly finds the opposition with a pass.

26 Aug 2015 07:16:15
As a captain I have always liked Brown, but he has flaqws in his game that we usually get away with.
There is no doubt that we are usually a better team with him in the side, but tonight, too many underperformed.
His passing and even tackling are not good enough and at his age will never improve.

25 Aug 2015 23:32:19
The thing About tonite that disappoints me is that this wasn't a surprise! Everybody was saying before the game that Malmo will defo score! That for me sums up what we've become! It was so easy for a Malmo side on a fraction of our income and budget! They looked shocked at how easy they won! And they'll be saying so in all the papers I the coming days! To not even have a shot on target in the 2nd half when all we need is one goal is embarrassing! No fight no leadership and no clue! And from Lawell to the manager they all should shoulder the blame! Lawell being the main culprit! I said I would leave judgement until after the game! Well 3 exits from the CL in a year and 40 million pound gone with it is the last straw for me! The mans attitude borders on arrogance when he speaks! 6-8 million pound players! Then buttons spent in each of the last 3 windows since RD came in!! Look out for paradise being a ghost town once again during the EL! Nobody's interested in it! Utterly disgusted! This is where we are now! And it's not the club I love! Mind sound harsh and I'm ranting away but tonite was the last for me with regards to Lawell and the board!! VVD will go this week to rake in a tidy profit with a few diddy loans coming in! Nobody's fooled anymore! So pisssed off tonite!

25 Aug 2015 23:44:34
Malmo turnover about £36m so about 60% of what CFC turnover. Big difference is there willing to pay Rosenberg almost £40k per week so they can have a few top class players yet we max out a £25k and seem intent on paying some very average players £20+k per week. Our issue is our wage structure. It's not fit for purpose were paying wages from 10 years ago while the whole world moves on. Including smaller Swedish teams.

Every player we have earns less than PL. name any other top club the CEO is salaried at more than the players.

26 Aug 2015 00:37:20
where do you get the £40 thousand a week for Rosenberg from?

25 Aug 2015 23:06:03
Where to start? This is as low as I've felt in some time. Every other away team scored tonight whereas we, as always, never threaten. Our defence is a shambles, we have no class in the final 3rd in the shape of a creative midfielder and a striker. Another season of disappointment. What worries me is that we should 100 years ahead of everyone but we are not. We are just a shambles at times in Europe, especially away. I'm never confident against anyone away. Saying all of this, I still think we should stick with Ronny. He had only been in the job for 13 months which isn't enough but he needs to improve and quick. I think if he fails again next year his time is up.

26 Aug 2015 00:18:36
Time for ronny to go now

25 Aug 2015 23:04:17
Extremely naive performance. The midfield was non existent for me. Johanssen has been very poor all season and tonight was no different. Felt a bit for Biton as he was isolated a lot tonight. Brown and johansson very poor. We needed a performance with the discipline of Qarabag but felt we got dragged into the mind games. Nothing will change though, we are a Europa league team who will only go one way. Down the money in England is killing us. We need a scottish boycott of Sky. We will never compete until there is a fair balance of finaice

26 Aug 2015 00:46:03
Did you not read that Malmo were put together for about £3 million pounds,the money in England has nothing to do with it,most of this failure is down to Ronnie,the team lacks creativity,why did'nt he give Allan a chance in the second half instead of ,maybe Armstrong,Ronnie been doing this since he arrived ,picking the wrong team,playing players out of position,concentrating too much on the fitness aspect rather than the ball control aspect of the game

25 Aug 2015 22:36:58
Disgusting tonight. What are we doing with our time and effort. We are a shambles. Time for a revaluation. Sky boycott. It'll never happen but needs to for Scotland to grow. Say 1/5 of Scotland has sky and we boycotted it that be with average of £75 per household be £75m a month in lost income over a year it be £900m. They would have to invest with those sort of numbers. That's just TV subscriptions not including advertising monies. They would need to invest in football and other Scottish projects and not hold us in contempt as is the case just now

25 Aug 2015 22:59:37
And again, what a load of tripe!

25 Aug 2015 23:09:22
Desh knows it all. aye right

26 Aug 2015 00:23:29
Lmao silly me yes you're right boycott sky will solve all our problems.no wait let's get Paul Lambert in as manager.!

26 Aug 2015 08:26:36
DesH your solution seems to be "do nothing" just let RD carry on? This team has gone backwards. No club even in the SPL are frightened to come to Celtic Park. Any team fancies their chances when they are at home to us and you obviously feel that is acceptable. Watch us get smashed on the Europa as well. This manager has no idea once he comes up against a half decent team and that's all Malmo, Maribor and Liega Wardaw are. In 11 European games we have won 3. Wake up and small the coffee.

25 Aug 2015 22:30:26
Have to admit it we're a Europa league side but could be worse we could be a Scottish 2nd tier side and be struggling to get to the top flight. No matter how disappointed I feel after a game the plight of the Sevconians always puts a smile back on my face

25 Aug 2015 22:50:42
That doesn't make me feel better at all. With all due respect mate it's attitudes like that what is making our football team not go forward

25 Aug 2015 23:05:03
So, because they are worse we should be kicking our height?

Are you Peter Lawell? :

There ain't a silver lining here.

25 Aug 2015 23:18:01
Sorted then, I'll change my attitude and we'll be Champions of Europe next season.

26 Aug 2015 08:57:12
What a stupid post after that performance last night. embarassing!

25 Aug 2015 22:24:39
Very very poor , out thought , out fought

A naïve manager with no plan B a mean ffs start the second half with something different we were that poor , not one plus mark for me!

A now inept , short changing us board with a lap dog of a manager

No more buying these rough diamonds we demand a bit of quality!

Even when we polish up a rough one the board can't wait to cash in on them piss PISS poor IMO

25 Aug 2015 22:16:48
everyone slaggng the board for lack of investment,how much did malmo's teamcost?

25 Aug 2015 22:32:09
Everyone is always screaming about lack of investment and I understand that but we brought in a new manager with very limited experience and no experiance of European football. He only knows one formation and regardless of the personnel at his disposal he will not play any other way. RD will continue with that formation no matter who we bring in. Last year it was understandable that players didn't know how to play his system but tonight looked just like last year. No improvement after a year and 3 transfer windows. So what's the excuse now? RD will tell us that we are just not good enough and the fans can see that anyway. Why are we not good enough that is what I want to be told and what do we do about it? Change the entire team? I'm lost for words.

25 Aug 2015 23:23:25
Time for him to go, probably be a decent part of the backroom staff with all the knowledge of foods, what to and not to eat/drink. Yeah he only knows one formation and its not working

26 Aug 2015 00:54:13
check your facts johnnymac,he played european ties when he managed stromgodset

25 Aug 2015 22:09:03
I was really looking forward to the match thinking we were going to do something special. Especially after all the talking there manager and team done thought we'd show them just how good we are! But have to say what a shambles its embarressing, I live in england and the abuse and banter I get about celtic being a pub team in a pub league i'm always fighting back saying we are better than what they think but how can you defend them after that, such a let down totally dissappointed!!

25 Aug 2015 22:07:30
Failed, failed and failed again, 3 words that spring to mind with our manager.Failure to get CL last year, failure to win treble, and failure to get CL again.
Before anyone gets on their high horse and blames the board for not spending, well what did Malmo cost? Its not the spending its buying the right players.
Also at this point last year if we were promised Maribor and Malmo to qualify we would have bitten the hand off for that even before we spent a penny. Nope its all down to 1 man and that's RD. His naivity is unbelievable. He thinks we are a forward thinking team. We had 1 shot on target. Lo and behold we need 2 goals with 30 mins to go and he waits 20 mins to put another striker on. Oh I sorry RD you did put VVD up with 3 mins to go as well lol.
This forward thinking manager doesn't know how to organise a team defensively. We lose 2 goals from set pieces and we looked all over the place. Jeez they even created chances from throw ins lol.
He has now cost the club 40m this can't go on. His remit when he started must have been to get us CL football.
With VVD a certainty to go now, where is the next 10m coming from. None of his signings will go for much, he hasn't even signed a player worth 2m never mind 10m.
To add insult to injury the Malmo manager was right we don't look fit enough. That's got to be RDs biggest insult since all he has harped on about is fitness and diet etc. Has he inmproved any players? Forrest maybe if he can stay fit otherwise no.
Oops sorry he has managed to make Berget a better player, pity it wasn't for us tho.
The player he signed 1st and was terrible and hardly played, not only managed to score 2 goals against us but was easily the best player over 2 legs. And the fittest.

25 Aug 2015 22:22:57
Rayman , our manager must take a good look at how the team performed . Our midfield was none existing . We needed a third man because Makmo were running through us , as if they were a good team . Virgil our defensive colossus showed in the two Malmo games he can't defend . Nobody with the strength or ability to hold the ball up.
We shouldn't need to spend freely to Qualify for Champions League .

25 Aug 2015 22:28:53
Who appointed RD? That's right it was Lawell and co. I'm not his biggest fan but he has grew on me now the sheer fact that Lawell and co brought him in when nobody had heard of the guy, you'd think they'd back him with a bit of quality signings. If Lawell ( with all due respect) thinks that signing 3 ex Dundee utd players, an 19 year old from Manchester United reserves and boyata who's not really done much in the last few years is going to cut it he's sadly mistaken. For years now our big players have been moved on for big money and been replaced by mediocre players at best. It's just not good enough for a club the size of Celtic. Time the board got they're finger out or we'll be going through this same scenario year in year out!

25 Aug 2015 22:44:51
Soz Gaz I don't understand he mentality of when Lennon was manager all the bad signings were his fault but now RD is in charge its the boards fault mate. Someone needs to exlain that 1 to me.

25 Aug 2015 23:26:18
Im with rayman

25 Aug 2015 23:31:59
Rayman, Lenny moved on because he was fed up selling his best players and buying cheap alternatives that weren't up to scratch. RD was brought in by Lawell and co as a cheap option and he was also someone who was prepared to work the way Lenny ended up refusing to. I'll give u an example of the board, we buy ki for a couple of million, hooper a couple of million, Forster a couple of million, wanyama £800,000 or so, kelvin Wilson on a free, joe ledley on a free, Adam Mathews on a free. We sell ki for £7.5million, hooper for £5.5 million, Forster for £10 million,wanyama for £ 10 or 12 million , kelvin Wilson for £2.5 million, joe ledley for around £2 million, Adam Mathews for around £1.5 million. We're on the verge of losing VVD for £10 million. I just think the board could be doing a bit more to support a manager THEY appointed.

25 Aug 2015 23:55:07
Your right Gaz lenny was unhappy with that. But I think most managers can work with that as long as the next gem is found. Lenny during his tenure found them, but RD has not. That's the difference. Where is the next Wanyama,Ki etc. I don't see them do you.

26 Aug 2015 01:13:58
Dont understand what you mean Gaz,all those players you mention were bought cheap or the cheaper side of cheap,were you complaining when they were bought?,there is an existing mentality in groups of supporters that all a manager has to do is buy a £6 million player and sit back ,job done.When Ronnie started here he played LG out on the wing,way out of position,and maybe I'm wrong ,but Berget seemed to play a different role for Malmo than he did at Celtic,the manager has a lot to do with it,look what happenned when Neil took over at the canaries,he transformed them with more or less the same group of players

26 Aug 2015 06:17:20
So what are u saying then aindoh? It's all RDs fault? Nothing to do with the players on the park? Nothing to do with the lack of backing from the board at a European level? Not once have I said spend £6 million on a player nor do I expect Lawell to sanction such a deal but what I think every Celtic fan IS entitled to expect is a better quality of player. Now since hooper, Forster, wanyama, ki, ledley, and the rest that left for decent money, since they've left we've continued to watch sub standard replacements come in time and again and your not telling me that to replace say the likes of emilio, ambrose, scepovic etc with a better quality than they have will cost us mega millions? I don't know if it's the scouting system that's failing us know as we don't seem to be bringing through these gems anymore. Once big Virgil does the off for £10 million or so, I don't see any player there that's valued anywhere near that figure

25 Aug 2015 22:04:04
I have always given Rd the benefit of the doubt, however in the CL he has shown to very naive.

DO WE STAND BY HIM???

So another year in the Thusrady/ Sunday league. At least will will have £10m circa in the bank for the VVd sale. ( unless our failure to qualify costs us in his transfer fee).
and in return we will be told that we don't have CL money to spend and buy another cheap option.

This is just a vicious circle year in year out.

25 Aug 2015 22:31:24
CPRS a very good question . Over the two legs , I think he was let down by some of our best players . But he did little tactically to upset Malmo . To see a team like Malmo scythe through us , was a total disgrace .

25 Aug 2015 23:19:52
Never mind Malmo Kilmarnock were scything through us, the team is wide open and tactically inept

25 Aug 2015 22:01:37
Another CL flop and I am so angry and embarrassed at how bad we are.
Between Peter Lawell, a succession of unqualified and naive managers and a host of average players that should be nowhere near a Celtic jersey - we are now a Pot 5 team and it hurts.

We had an advantage going into the game, but we surrendered it easily.
The Malmo manager out-thought, out motivated and out-psyched Deila and their players clearly wanted/deserved it on the night.
OK we should have had a goal/penalty and their captain Rosenberg kicked everything that moved, but we were bullied from start to finish and we had too many invisible or ineffective men.

Forrest was a trier and worked all night unlike Johansen, Bitton and others (even Brown was rotten)and Gordon saved us from a doing.
VVD will be off and his price may well have dropped after a series of games were we have leaked goals.
However, he is/was our best defender and the rest of them are a huge worry in any competition.

In the cold light of day, it is pretty clear we are not fit to be in the group stages - as decent teams would absolutely destroy us; so where does that leave us?
Dawdling along in a piss-poor league sparring with Aberdeen and Hearts for domestic honours and playing Thursday - Sunday for as long as we stay in the Aldi Cup.

Supporters like me who have been through many ups and downs since the 1960's expect highs and lows.
This period - although we are winning titles - has a hint of low about it as we are expected to win the league comfortably and should be doing much better in Europe, for a club of our size and reputation.

RD has had a year to improve the team and learn from the mistakes of last season and seemed confident he had made progress, but clearly we are no further forward and might even have more problems when VVD leaves and we now have no CL to attract any quality to the club.
So we are running out of assets for Lawell to sell each year.

PS: I usually moan about big Sutton, but he called it right all night and clearly loves the club.

25 Aug 2015 22:13:03
Spot on in your post Jim. Celtic have had little investment and its killing us. Another point is that Malmo have spent 2 million and have a better team than us. So as well as no investment, the money we are spending is on poor players.

I know the game was gone by the time changes were made, but Deila's subs were crap. just changes for the sake of it.

Although we should've had a penalty, Griffiths and biton should've been sent off. Griffiths was embarrassing, proved the Malmo players correct.

25 Aug 2015 22:13:40
I was just looking it looks like Malmo fielded an ineligble plater then nite. Does that mean we are thorugh?

25 Aug 2015 22:52:44
JungleJim I am not going to fault much of what you said . I have defended the bombscare Ambrose all month, he wasn't on tonight and certainly the team were not the better of it . The players we had on the field were good enough to do the job and get us qualified . In the dying moments of the first leg Virgil jumped into Bitton and gave away a goal from a corner . Although big Virgil is supposed to be our commanding centre half worth millions , he was posted missing with the two corners they got spot on .
Malmo slaughtered us in the middle of the park , by crisp passing and movement , all our players could do was watch . Deila will have to come clean and adopt our team to different situations .
By the way are we fit?

25 Aug 2015 23:13:38
That was embarrassing. Hope we pull out the Europa league because it's only going to get worse. The teams that were lookin at vvd might think twice after that second goal. If he does that down in epl he'll be worth fuck all to anyone.stick to defending and he's half decent but stray past the half way line n he's a liability.

25 Aug 2015 21:58:32
Well that was one of the most embarrassing performances from a Celtic team in europe in quite a while.

team selection questionable with Mulgrew who is slower than step toe & sons cart horse

2 goals from set pieces with our height advantage!!

Disallowed goal at crucial time

Too many cards for stupid decisions meant players not 100% committed for their second challenges

Brown off the pace with Johanson

VVD and Boyata not dominating

Best player on the park was a Celtic reject. worked his a** off to prove a point

Anyway. Europa League. let's see who we get and invest to win it with VVD money

25 Aug 2015 23:21:38
Invest to win it?? U must be joking mate. We invested 20 odd million wae Martin O'Neill and couldn't do it with a great manager n a load of great players. Wot chance we got with fourth choice everything.

25 Aug 2015 21:57:30
Gutted Peter lawell should hang his head in shame the fans have been pointing the same things out for last few years should we just keep accepting it guys?

25 Aug 2015 21:54:03
Got what we deserved tonite I'm afraid! One of the weakest performance I've ever seen from a Celtic team in Europe! The reaction from Malmo at the end said it all! They weren't surprised in the slightest! It was a canter for them! Peter Lawell hang your head in shame!!Apart from young janko and Gordon the whole team were a shambles! But the thing for me was the lack of fight to get back into the match! Didn't test there keeper once in the 2nd half! Woeful! No other word for it!

25 Aug 2015 22:09:12
As non green eyed fans have been saying for the last 3 years you are going backwards rapidly.
Enjoy your 10 mil for vd, again on tonight's performance he is nowhere near that kind of money.

25 Aug 2015 23:05:53
Dh88 we were shoite tonight , one of our worse ever performances in Europe .
I am not sure it is entirely Peter Lawwell's fault as apart from our goalkeeper Janko and possibly Forrest we had a team with no heart or no drive . We had no leadership on or off the field . If we have any more dispirited games like this , I am afraid Deila's head will be called for .

25 Aug 2015 21:53:22
Embarrassing, again.
No doubt PL will be blamed,but the budget the mob who just beat us was a pittance.
At least bonnie has the dignity to tell the truth.
But the manager needs a big mirror because we're too one dimensional.

25 Aug 2015 21:49:13
Jesus! That performance was just indefensible. Went out with a whimper. One shot on target and it was a feeble one at that. Lost for words

25 Aug 2015 22:03:34
At least we are better than the Rangers eh. They never got a shot on target against us.

25 Aug 2015 21:48:12
Not even going to comment on the performance. Have to lift ourselves up now and give this europa league a rattle!

Also lost for words on griffiths. idiotic move. Embarrassing for the club.

25 Aug 2015 21:45:58
With a performance like that thank god we never qualified losing to a pish team like Malmo we would've have been embarrassed against the likes of Barca or Madrid. £10m for Virgil and a few loans and ''projects'' will turn around the fortunes.

25 Aug 2015 21:43:49
How can the rest of these european teams source better ( not even better!) but on a par sub standard players costing a fraction and also playing for a fraction that our players do. Not 1 outfield player i'd give pass marks to tonight. Its like constantly being fed burgers when all you want is a steak. My 5 year old niece colours in her colouring books, never inside the lines and random colours but I always say wow that's amazing very good because I love her to bits. i'm getting fed up making excuses or papering over the cracks just because I love my team, I've even lost the motivation to have a go at whoever is resposible its just not good enough and it brings me down. Off to do something constructive with my life . Rant over

25 Aug 2015 21:42:42
Didn't turn up, celtic as a club don't deserve the support they have, we give it our all and don't get it in return

25 Aug 2015 22:00:37
What support is that belfastboy? Celtic park is empty on a constant basis, even when full the atmosphere is terrible. It's been like that for at least 5 years. Telling you all now it's time for the board to go, the current model is hopeless and a mockery to the true supporters. I'll be at the front door on Saturday to shout as loud as I can. Sack the board!

25 Aug 2015 21:41:45
It's easier for fans to take when you go out having a right go but the performance tonight has been one of the worst I can remember. Janko and maybe Gordon are the only ones who've tried enough for me. VVD lost his man for both goals. Midfield were non existent. Every man in their team did their job and just wanted it more than us. We can look at the disallowed goal obviously but if we're honest we've beaten ourselves with that late goal at CP. In my opinion, we've got what we deserve. Europa League is our level at the moment and we just have to accept that.

25 Aug 2015 21:46:52
Kev if I'm being honest bud I'd say we're not even a decent Europa team at the minute , think we've stalled in or development , I know it's early days in the season but felt for past few weeks were just not going forward , totally peeved off with that performance tonight

25 Aug 2015 21:51:21
I think it was zonal marking that was the issue. I thought Forrest tried and did well but had nothing to work with.

It's depressing eh. Weak in so many areas!

25 Aug 2015 21:52:07
Kev I honestly thought Scott Brown was a disgrace, our captain was hiding. Fact is we need to spend on quality but the board won't. Sack the lot of them.

25 Aug 2015 21:56:28
Agree Kev I really can't remember seeing us play that bad, The shape second half was terrible no one seemed to be in their position and there was no drive to get back into the game it almost looked like they accepted defeat. Punting long balls up field to a team sitting deep is gifting possession away

25 Aug 2015 22:00:57
I know we all buy into the RD philosophy, it's exciting and modern but it seems as if there's never a Plan B. It wasn't working tonight and it continued to not work because they had their tactics spot on and had the measure of us overall. I'm not overly confident of getting through the groups of The EL either tbh but European football is European football so we need to give it our all to try and get a good run in that.

25 Aug 2015 21:38:59
Heartbroken.

Another year of europa league pish

25 Aug 2015 21:46:18
Och let's get a great wee draw and enjoy some paradise nights.

25 Aug 2015 21:37:53
I guess our 'mystery' striker will never be known.

25 Aug 2015 21:36:15
Proof the boards strategy is not working.
Cheap equals cheap

25 Aug 2015 21:46:32
The cheap started with choice of manager I'm afraid.
3 million that Malmo team cost and outplayed Celtic in every department.
Time for a change, God forbid the guy on gardener leave would have done better.

25 Aug 2015 22:05:35
I got a few pelters last week when I sugested this was gona happen. it wasnt lack of support. it was watching this big club take the cheap option all the time and expecting a different outcome.

25 Aug 2015 22:18:47
Your right did you see the camera going to Ronnie and Kennedy near the end not a clue did they have Sutton called everything Ronnie did 10 minutes earlier then to take of Forrest the only lad that was trying unreal!

25 Aug 2015 21:19:30
Who thought up zonal marking?? Worst idea ever

25 Aug 2015 21:27:05
Stand, wait, react.

25 Aug 2015 21:30:28
Aye that zonal parking or even parking the bus. It's all HGV to me.

25 Aug 2015 21:03:43
Bye bye vvd

On your way out can you take the other 9 (Gordon excluded) with you.

Can't even begin to describe how angry and disappointed I am

25 Aug 2015 21:10:50
No izzy or Efe to blame tonight, one man responsible RD. Twenty five minutes to go we need 2 goals and still one striker. The manager is naive and out his depth the defence is a shambles

25 Aug 2015 21:22:10
Manager is a disgrace taking off Forrest and leaving Johanssen on. complete favouritism

25 Aug 2015 21:36:58
Just terrible passing and possession. Is the high pressure game the right option or is a possession game better away? Malmo just seem so much better as a unit tonight.

25 Aug 2015 21:55:23
What's the point in having two strikers on when we don't create chances,the midfield was non existent,the passing deplorable ,the defending least said the better,but this is where we are at the moment,and for the forseeable future.Scottish football is not an attraction for any half decent player.Im not surprised we were beaten 1st rotten away from home,2nd that defence will always concede goals,sorry for the rant.killy

25 Aug 2015 20:50:47
Firrests final baw is letting a giid display down

25 Aug 2015 20:48:00
not feeling this at all. mulgrews all over the shop but teams looking ok. thyre getting away with murder though and were getting death by officials as per. need a lot oflucksecond hal. Hail Hail

25 Aug 2015 20:41:08
First time I've seen one of those 6th officials make a decision and he makes a massive blunder either a goal or a pen. Done again this time it could cost us 20 million

25 Aug 2015 21:09:41
Forget the officials mate we are hopeless , Biton worse game I've seen him boyota ( slower than slow , ) the rest of them should have stayed in the airport absolute pish

25 Aug 2015 20:38:58
Right boys we need the mother and father of all second halfs. Goal chopped off for nothing, we are going to have to do this the hard way. In RD we trust. Hail Hail

25 Aug 2015 20:45:30
Griffiths is a total headcase. He was lucky not to get a straight red. Somebody needs to remind him he's an ambassador for Celtic.

25 Aug 2015 21:33:25
Got it wrong boys, honestly thought we would go through. Team is not as good as I thought.

25 Aug 2015 19:46:26
Cmon Celtic

25 Aug 2015 20:18:56
Thought we'd weathered the storm then another soft goal. Mulgrew having a nightmare aready.

25 Aug 2015 20:37:53
Mulgrew a no the only one having a nightmare. Johanson has been absolutely shocking and forests no much better

25 Aug 2015 18:48:14
A was nearly right lol , clearly Mulgrew for Izzy a surprise!

RD has "set out his stall" to defend IMO might be worth while lamping on 0-0 (y)

25 Aug 2015 19:34:42
RD clearly realises (like the support) that Ambrose and Izzy are poor defensively, but unfortunately we are a bit thin on the ground for quality defenders and the replacements have their weak points too.
Playing for a draw, is too dodgy in my opinion as we cannot afford to invite them on and keep a clean sheet - as we have been letting goals in every week lately.
We must play our normal game, keep the ball, create a few chances and take one or two.
All we need is total concentration, a very good performance all over the pitch and a half decent referee.

25 Aug 2015 18:38:02
I love RD more by the minute! Why start with 10 men when u can start janko at RB! I take my hat off to you good sir!

25 Aug 2015 18:54:58
Suppose with Mulgrew on the other side over Izzy, CM can tuck in and allow Janko to get up and get involved with Forrest. Likewise Armstrong on the other side of midfield. Probably going to see us go down the right quite a bit now. Forrest already knows he can torment their left back. He'll be an outlet and a threat. Time to step up now Jamesy.

25 Aug 2015 08:19:56
So we're in talks with Aston Villa striker Libor Kozak. Played 15 games since 2013. Great!

25 Aug 2015 08:39:08
The 'give the lad a chance'-ers will be all over you mind.

Think it goes without saying the vast majoruty of fans will wait to see if he can turn things around. Pretty uninspiring but I think we've signed worse.

25 Aug 2015 09:06:28
If this is the best our scouting system can suggest it's time for an overhaul

25 Aug 2015 09:54:06
He cost villa 7 million from lazio and has been unlucky with a broken leg not the big name that we crave but will we ever get the player we want

25 Aug 2015 08:57:30
Any truth in this ED? Hardly inspiring is it!

{Ed007's Note - He's available and it looked like he was heading to Nottingham Forest until yesterday when an unknown club entering the situation changed things - I'm not convinced that the mystery club is CFC.}

25 Aug 2015 11:01:38
Gordo until his leg break his record was 4 in 14 with villa. 13 in 87 in Italy. 19 in 41 in his homelands second tier. not the greatest of stats . and nearly year out . is he a freebie

25 Aug 2015 11:15:13
Heard that Mainz are after him to! Like I said it's hardly inspiring is it! We're obviously trawling round the bottom of the barrel seeing who's available before the window! Not really surprised.

25 Aug 2015 11:37:12
Not a good record atall deep river bhoy

25 Aug 2015 14:00:41
Hope this isn't true, not good enough imo scoring record is poor and seems injury prone. Said it before but still think we'll bring in Soriano should we beat Malmo tonight.

He's hardly played for Salzburg this season and has been on the bench a lot, they're beginning to downsize as the owners are now starting to turn their attention to their other project RB Leipzig in Germany selling all Salzburgs best players in the process over the last year. He'll be 30 next month and has a good 2-3 years left in him. Supposedly desperate to play in CL Group Stages and if he was willing to move to Austria I'm sure he'll be willing to move to Scotland as well. He's spoke very highly of Celtic in the past and appreciates the size of our club and history.

25 Aug 2015 15:02:06
I'm getting more and more disillusioned with our scouting system, for a club of our size and global exposure.
I thought we had sources in Asia, Africa and Europe - and particularly Scandinavia, where RD should have a knowledge.
The recent signings have all come from Scotland and I do not have a problem with that, as long as we are going for the very best - time will tell?

25 Aug 2015 17:31:55
What level of the barrel can we expect to be trawling around . The secret for us is to pick up players that perform better when they are with us . Sometimes it works , big Victor , Virgil and Griffiths and sometimes the new players come in and bomb . That maybe our scouts chose the wrong target or maybe the player decided to enjoy life in Glasgow off the field rather than doing his best in training and at matches .