Celtic Banter Archive May 24 2016

24 May 2016 20:31:40
Hi Ed: i know you said earlier that it was not the Fee paid for any player but the wage cap @ CP.
Got to say totally bang on, I know that raising the cap will cost more, but if we raised it to say £35k per week tops we move into a whole different player level, and not just an over rated EPL player .

{Ed007's Note - I've said it for a few years now mate, it would mean us shopping in a whole different market.}

24 May 2016 23:03:22
Totally agree , there are 1000's of quality players within our budget if our scouts can be bothered getting off their arses and go a bit further afield than Dundee. In this present climate we can't afford to be paying 6 million on transfer fees alone then same again on wages on a player. 40k a week 2 million a year on quality is better than spending 7 million on transfer fees alone on duds like Pukki , Boerrigter and Scepovic .

24 May 2016 22:19:36
Why couldn't we cut the squad down to about 30 players max (including youth) and add the money saved to the money already willing to be spent and then increase the wage structure and as an extra motivator to new and current players offer them an increase in wage the following season depending on performances (individually and collectively) and loyalty.

24 May 2016 22:46:57
I think it's better to have 1 quality player on say 35k than 2 average players on 17k. have a smaller squad made up of a few quality players who can genuinely make a difference in Europe and the rest from the academy who have potential

So instead of 24 players on 10k-18k

Have 8-10 players on 30-35k

So even through your paying higher rates of pay, the wage bill could stay the same.

Any thoughts bhoys.

24 May 2016 23:13:46
I would rather have a smaller squad with a mix of better quality signings and the cream of our development crop on a slightly higher salary cap, than like we have had recently - flooded with mediocrity and misfits.

24 May 2016 23:56:55
How do you motivate a guy who is quarenteed £35 thousand a week doesn't matter how bad or good he plays?

25 May 2016 10:14:00
Aindoh the same applies to any player, regardless of salary. If salary payments were dictated by a motivation clause most of us would be lighter in the pocket on any given month.

The Club has paid top dollar to secure, what I believe to be, the best manager available. I think it has been a massive coup, and the reaction of the football public to the appointment would back that up. It is BR's job (and the staff he appoints) to ensure that the players he brings in have the ability, character and motivation to play for our Club. Winning trophies and competing in European Competition in a packed Celtic Park (this appointment will see this happen) and taking home £35k a week should be enough motivation in my book.

There is no question that DD has stood up and made a notable appointment. He has paid handsomely to secure a top class manager. Regardless of the snipers, BR came within a slip of winning the EPL. I don't agree with the theory that this was down to him being lucky enough to inherit Suarez. Sure it helps, but it takes more than one player to win a league.

United, Chelsea and City have all been accused of 'buying success', a term that doesn't sit right with me. How else can you guarantee success if you don't pay for it? It certainly doesn't come free. We have all witnessed the mediocrity of the market we have been shopping in over the past number of years. It has driven the fans away in their hoards and seen us embarrassed by Scandinavian teams on vastly inferior budgets, teams we would usually be rubbing our hands at drawing in qualifiers. DD has taken the first step, the right step. Now it is time to finish the job. Sign the £35k players I say, and take the Club back to where it belongs.

25 May 2016 11:20:50
What I mean is the £35thousand is meaningless, its the motivationan that is important, how many of the Molde team that embarrassed us were on more money than the Celtic players?, there is tactics and team selection and having the confidence to go with young players, and other things that are more important than paying some overated underperforming socalled superstar.

24 May 2016 13:58:04
Hi bhoys. Been following this site for a long time now and really enjoy the banter and different opinions. Hopefully with BR in place we can now turn our great club around and get back to where we once were in Europe. Don't expect it to happen overnight but hopefully with some quality signings and some of our young lads being introduced to the 1St team squad we will start to get back to where we once belonged. Hail Hail

{Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard mate.}

24 May 2016 14:19:22
Cheers Ed.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

24 May 2016 17:10:22
Celtic54: Welcome to the best forum going mate, another brother to our family.

Hail hail.

24 May 2016 20:01:28
aye welcum again fae me wee pat listen ther used tae be a 54 bus thit came rite thru posso it wiznae you wiz it?
ur did yur maw jist huv a big famuly n couldnae be bothered to make up names.

24 May 2016 09:22:32
Have to say I was impressed with yesterday and the way Rodgers has brought himself across to the Celtic fans.

There is a bit of a buzz about us now that we have been lacking for a while.

Will this be enough to get people out to the matches and get the banners down?

I really hope so.

24 May 2016 11:48:49
sorry garlic boay a wid love tae no whit yur sayin bit a canae speek garlic.

24 May 2016 12:16:54
There'll probably always be that wee naging doubt of whether he'd jump ship if the EPL came calling again but I have to say yesterday he came across impeccably and looked as if he was genuinely delighted to be here so we can only take him on that.

24 May 2016 01:28:23
It's good to see how the hacks on sky sports work. Celtic fc still have their council and confidentiality a few ex Bhoys were on the payroll tonight . thought they were all consuming not in Glasgow it looks well done Pedro.

They were on to discuss all concerned in Manchester eye eye . Neil and Martin on tap. wonder why Roy wasn't playing ball I'm ' rather glad about that,

Sorry, Ed I know you are Keen on Keane. 🍀🍀 spot on With Brendan though HH Amigo⭐️.

{Ed007's Note - I didn't want Keane to get the job, I wouldn't mind him as a No.2 now though but that's never going happen.}

24 May 2016 02:01:54
I'd take big yogi any day of the week. Managers have it easy but real coaches have a tough gig. I had a chuckle watching LVG telling the world Jose visited him on a weekly basis to give the Barselona team talk.

No wonder football is ****ed. Brian Clough used to hand brown envelopes out on the bus on the same routes and won old big ears twice with Forest,

Look what happened this year with a good coach. Managers are long gone dinosaurs. guy's like Roy Keane are well spent forces but his ego won't allow him to work up here it's a shame but for 2.5 million reasons Brendan will.

{Ed007's Note - I'd be happy with Hughes but as long as Rodgers had met him and OKd it. I sitll don't think you can discount guys like O'Driscoll or Colin Pascoe but for me he needs someone with experience and knowledge of the Scottish game. I don't think Kennedy has that yet.
I told my nephew the other week about Rodgers getting the job and told him how I knew, he went to bed tonight expecting MON to take over from Park, Keane as No.2 and Larsson as coach because Ibrahimovic is signing! :=D Thank God I'm not cleaning his bed sheets!}

24 May 2016 04:18:17
I'd be happy with Hughes as a no. 2 and then take over in a couple of years when BR would move on. Hughes would be a great motivator for the team, the passion he has is second to none.!

24 May 2016 11:36:40
When Rodgers was talking about how good the coaches and managers up here were all a could think was he's been told he's getting someone from up here as no 2. A know he said he knows the club well enough to bring in someone on his own after that but the alarm bells were already ringing. A hope they don't force anyone on him.

24 May 2016 11:42:03
Would Jim Duffy be a good choice for number 2 lads.

24 May 2016 11:56:40
Jim Duffy would be a very good appointment to celtics coaching staff.
Knows the Scottish game inside out and is a very good man.
Same with yogi but I still think Rogers will get his own man in.

24 May 2016 12:23:09
I hope he does Kev because its important to be comfortable with your numbed 2, maybe Jim would be a good choice the way GS brought TB into the coaching set up.

24 May 2016 14:52:35
Regardless who it is, it must be BR who appoints. I personally think that is a major factor as to why it never worked out for RD, the forced appointment of JC.

24 May 2016 16:16:39
I think it's will be some one he has worked with before perhaps Warburton 😁.

24 May 2016 22:14:05
The assistant coach seems to have taken a far more important role in recent years . I think years ago a good assistant would be seen and not heard.