Celtic Banter Archive February 24 2015

 

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24 Feb 2015 23:04:59
I hope with the World Cup in Qatar in 2022 being played in December doesn't disrupt our quest for 12 in a row with the number of players we're likely to have away on International duty. Just a thought.

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Does anyone else think that it is ridiculous that we are having that world cup in quatar, WHY, WHY.(brown envelopes anyone?)

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{Ed007's Note - Dave King and Sevco have pencilled that season in to be back in the top league by then and have already asked Lee McCulloch if he will leave Kenny Miller out of the Scotland squad to give them a chance of winning their first title.}

A hear phat sally is bidding to "cut the grass" and be groundsman with his "wee waatering can" =D

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Aindoh was there not an enquiry about qatar alledgely buying votes?

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I think the best thing Scotland and the Republic of Ireland can do is boycott the finals in 2022.

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Chris, even better we will deliberately fail to qualify. that'll learn them. i'm not sure why wer deliberately did not try qualifying the last few times but i'm sure there was a sound reason.

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24 Feb 2015 22:25:07
I see our former esteemed manager Lenny is starting to struggle. As predicted when he took the job he won't do any better than the bottom 6 of the championship. Give me RD any day! Hail Hail

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Lenny was a fantastic player for us and thank god he was around to take over from Mowbray and rebuild the team. He was a great manager for us at a difficult time. It is pathetic that Celtic fans seem to take delight in the possibility he will fail, they should be ashamed, the man was Celtic to the core

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It will still be an improvement on when he took over, as long as he does 'nt end up bottom of league.

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24 Feb 2015 23:36:15
Groutdoc I wish lenny all the success in the world but let's be honest here he wasn't a great manager for us lol he was average and that's being kind mate

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Biting today lol. Predicted by whom?? Didn't he go to them when they were bottom, I sure they not now.

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NL will do well with Bolton as he will not be expected to win anything which he has bags of experience of doing.

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Tell me how many Celtic managers won three in a row

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Predict NL will be sent packing by April and Tony Mowbray will be brought in to save the day

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Some sad people here. NL may not have been perfect but he did give us some special nights and highs. Yes there were questions asked but he did not get the money MON got. Short memories, they guy pulled us out of a mess and we were going downwards

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I think Celtic were in a far stronger state when neil Lennon left the club, than when he took over, so I don't see how he can be judged a failure.
I think 3 of the previous 4 managers have been pretty good, and they left the club better than when they took over.
Martin o'neill rebuilt us from the Barnes/Dalglish era, and gave us success.
Gordon Strachan took over from O'neill and had to rebuild an ageing team, and again brought us success.
Neill Lennon took over from Tony Mowbray when we were a shambles, and by the time he left we were the dominant force in Scotland.
All three had disappointing cup results at various times, O'neill v Inverness 2003. Strachan v Clyde 2006. Lennon v Morton 2013.
overall though their records were good.
Hopefully Ronny Deila can continue this trend, which will mean we have some good times ahead.

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Dn I would think that's the least Mowbray could do for nl after the mess nl turned around for Mowbray lol

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To me NL IS a great guy who had to put up with to much from the knuckle draggers he is a good manager to but he has limits as have all of us and I think he got us to as far as he could and I wish him all the best and luck at any other club he manages

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@garybhoy1888 mate too good an opportunity to wind a few people up lol

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As everyone knows I defended Lennon, sometimes without much support on here . Lennon has moved on and so should we . Our next two games and our support and encouragement of Deila and all our players should be totally concentrating our minds .

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Lenny was average at best, he should have won at least 1 treble during his tenure. He couldn't have had it much easier. RD will do the treble in his first year! Hail Hail

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Sack the board I am glad to see the ancient art of buffoonery is alive and well

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24 Feb 2015 20:16:18
Just a quick one ed, checking the TV guide and can't seem to see the game being on Thursday. Is this correct?

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{Ed007's Note - It's on BTSports-1, Garry, it's an 18:00 K.O.}

24 Feb 2015 15:10:25
Not football related in the strictest sense except this man was a big Celtic fan and a big man in every sense of the word but sad to hear of the death of Joe Beltrami who died today aged 83 criminals all over Glasgow used to say when arrested "Send for Beltrami" and more times than not he got them off RIP Mr Beltrami

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24 Feb 2015 18:21:25
I know there are some people who just click disagree to my posts in general but how sad to click it on this subject I despair I really do

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Never heard of him and can't understand why you posted it on a football site.

Maybe that's why people have disagreed with your post, it's irrelevance to Celtic.

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{Ed007's Note - Beltrami was from before the time supporters won Goal of the Month competitions but there's no need to be pig ignorant.

This is from the Herald about 10-12 years ago.

"His interest in football and boxing led him to chair testimonial committees for two of Celtic's Lisbon Lions, Jimmy Johnstone and Bobby Lennox; another Celtic great, Danny McGrain, and a dinner for Rangers legend Jim Baxter.

Beltrami's proudest sporting moment was getting his hands on the European Cup shortly after Celtic won it in Lisbon.

"It was taken from Billy McNeill, the team captain, to be engraved after he collected it and paraded it round the ground, " he says. "I was at the hotel after the game along with Jock Stein. A taxi pulled up at about 2am. The driver came in and laid down this huge green box, tied with very strong string. The honour of opening it fell to me as I was the only one with a pocket knife. I cut the string and took the cup out of the box and handed it to Jock. It was a very proud moment - one I'll never forget.

"In the boxing field I was privileged to meet Muhammad Ali in Las Vegas, New Orleans and New York. We shall never see his like again."

That's hardly irrelevant to Celtic.}

A remember the Legendry story about his Big Gold Mercedes being "untouchable" outside parkhead while he watched matches lol because of who he "represented" in the days of "can a watch yer motor mister"

His one big regret in life (jovially) was that he was born on a certain day in JULY! so when he found out that a certain Mr Donald Findlay was born on St Patrick's Day they decided to swap birthday's lol!

That will do for me :=D

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Like I said, never heard of him and don't read The Herald.

So he was a fan, like so many others. A fan who as your post suggests got closer to Celtic than some others do.

It's hardly pig ignorant is it now!!

Tomalloy questioned why people disagreed, I gave an answer.

Done a quick check with a few other Celtic fans who have never heard of him either.

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{Ed007's Note - I couldn't give a to$$ what 'other' fans are saying, if they don't post on here then they're opinion is irrelevant on here. Didn't DN30 have a dig at you for thinking anonymous people's opinions gives yours and extra credibility?
You and your friends should spend some time studying the history of CFC, if you know the history and all that. Had the people you asked heard of Jimmy Johnstone or Jock Stein, have you?}

Kev t, are you still at school?

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Some people click disagree for no other reason than the option is there. I've posted jokes and even hard facts and still get a few disagrees. I would not worry about it. Maybe if some people would check out the person named before commenting then they would understand. Just because the circle of friends they have don't know about the person does not make their opinion correct. The man was a Celtic fan and very well known throughout Scotland. He had connections with both clubs but particularly Celtic. If nothing else, its always banter and when you see the Ed's posting more than once on a subject then it becomes even more interesting. Hail Hail

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I have a theory Timalloy mate, a reckon it is because you venture over to the dark site of rumours to wind them up mate, they just venture and "grade" everything you say!

you just have to look at the sevco page here to see the amount of disagrees you get there they are abnormal!

Me personally I have upset at least three of them from the dark side but a take it as a "backhanded compliment" mate

Just a theory! atvb jb7

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{Ed007's Note - They're permanently upset anyway.}

Very true Ed, but that in itself mate " is a gift that just keeps giving"

Whoever came up with slogan should trademark it IMO (y)

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{Ed007's Note - I don't know who came up with it but it is from the 1920's to promote the phonograph (record player) and it was a registered trademark in the USA up until between 1965 - 1970. There has been a number of attempts to trademark it since then but so far none have succeeded.}

TinyTim did it ever occur to you that people click dislike to your jokes because they found them rather $hit? Just stating the obvious that not everyone is going to find jokes funny. People have different sense of humour from one another

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Wow Ed obviously not football related but a would never have known that known that mate!

Impressive mate to recollect that a just thought it was someone being clever / pass remarkable (y)

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{Ed007's Note - My heads full of broken bottles and useless information, Jamie, and I've always been a quiz show fan.}

Aindoh you must be pre historic then if am still at school.

Ed point is, many fans have not heard of this guy, even some on here. The guy was a fan, not a player or manager.

If Jinky was a lawyer then I doubt people would have known him as well. Googled the guy, devoted fan indeed and one hell of a lawyer by all accounts.

Maybe it's an age thing, my boss in his 50s has just said of course he knows him and hasn't stopped talking about him for the last 20 mins

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{Ed007's Note - No your point was his death had no relevance to CFC yet he had a long standing public connection to the club. Whether you've heard of him or not is the irrelevance, all Tim was doing was paying his respects to a well known CFC supporter who passed away and making sure people knew.
How do you know other people on here have never heard of him, did you ask everyone or are you just assuming that so that it doesn't look like it's only you?}

DN30 a joke is not a statement or a question. Jokes are funny to some, crap to others. They don't pretend to make a statement of fact and don't really look for an opinion. My reply was a fact though. Some people would click disagree if you stated that the current Celtic manager was RD. That's just a fact of life which is accepted and bothers me not one iota. Even this post will have disagrees. do I care?

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By the way DN30 the option is disagree not dislike. Fundamentally different but whatever

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TinyTim thank you for grammar lesson. You clearly stated that you posted jokes and got dislikes (oops! Sorry disagrees!). Its not my fault the people clicking disagree think watching paint drying is more humourous than your jokes. Also has it ever occured to you that people click disagree with your "hard facts" as they don't believe it and think your talking nonsense?

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Timalloy maybe people just click disagree because they know it winds you up. You shouldn't let it get to you. I disagree with your post because I refuse to mourn someone who kept known Criminals out of prison regardless what team he supported. I disagree with your post but I think you should stop letting it get to you.

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Garybhoy . The criminals he kept out of jail were by and large the ordinary decent run of the mill criminals .
To the best of my knowledge he didn't defend any of the real " criminals" that have destroyed Britain . I am talking about the senior bankers, and the Senior Politicans in Westminster.

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This is why sometimes it's just best to click disagree. I disagree that we should mourn a man who has defended some of these people. If Timalloy and others want to mark his passing then that's there choice I just disagree that's all. I was just saying to Timalloy not to get wound up and that's why I gave my reason for disagreeing.

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Kev T, sorry that's what I meant its an age thing

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Just thought I would mention that Celtic won the European Cup in 1967. Hail Hail

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24 Feb 2015 14:26:49
Just to add a little bit on the ex player pundits, during the course of my work I deal quite regularly with Sutton, hartson, bonner, walker and provan and with only one exception they are all rude and obnoxious to the point that the younger girls don't want to deal with them . The only exception is big hartson a nicer gent you could not meet and his love for Celtic and our fans is 100% genuine.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm surprised at that, I've met Packie on numerous occasions over the last 30 years and have always found him to be nice bloke.}

You haven't had to deal with him when he is late for his lingus flight ed, lol . The big man can fair get a rage on .

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24 Feb 2015 15:58:34
Any thoughts on Mulgrew when he returns, My opinion is that it will now be very difficult for him to play in midfield because Biton has been a stand out alongside Broonie, Add to that our new signings I can't see where he would fit into the midfield unless there was mass injuries. I thought Mulgrew was outstanding at CB and more suited to that position rather than midfield or left back and would rather see him there next season if as expected Van Dijk leaves. If we can persuade Denayer to stay next season they might form a decent partnership.

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Stan sorry M8 but are you Mulgrew in disguise? I think he is a fair player but far far far from Celtic class he in my opinion had 1 good if not better than good season all the rest not even worth talking about

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Me? i'm far better looking. I think the season you are referring to is the one he played at CB Tony haha. For me he doesn't start in midfield there is just so many ahead of him now but CB might be different case if we are short in the summer. I don't know how I managed to get this comment on Fab1's i'm slacking

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Stan, I'm with you on this one. He is not bad at CB and could easily pressure Izzy for the LB spot although I would prefer us to stengthen those 2 positions in the summer. The good thing about Mulgrew is he can deliver a good set piece and he is good in the air although slow . Hail Hail

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24 Feb 2015 17:06:45
Bitton has taken that position he is so composed what's player he's going to be!mulgrew is a cracking squad player with his variability

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Mulgrew will only be a squad player now IMO his versatility will serve him well, whether or not he will want just that I don't know if am honest

If NL is still @ Bolton Mulgrew's contract is up at the end of next season and will in all probability end up there IMO

Without a doubt NL'S favourite and was his first signing as Celtic manager

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Tam, I don't think Mulgrew is anywhere good enough to pressure Izzy. He is far too slow and to be honest passed it!

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Stan you could be right but his reading of the game and more importantly his passing is woful and to have him as the last man bar the goal keeper is working

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Sorry Gents busy night, I'd sure there will be changes in the summer so will have to see who comes in and who leaves. One things for sure Biton must stay the midfield is fantastic at the moment. Talking of CB's a mate of mine reckons we should sign Souttar of Dundee United & loan him back, I don't know anything about him if i'm honest I had to Google him anyone know anything about him. Is he good enough now or one for the future?

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EPL teams and teams from other TV fuelled leagues may sign players and loan them back, but Celtic with its very meagre funds must at the time of buying imagine how Celtic can develop the player with the development team or by been a member of the first team squad .
As before I think that when Deila decides to loan a player out, it is the beginning of the end of his Celtic career .

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24 Feb 2015 14:17:38
Ed it's really getting on my nerves and making me angry that the newco fans are being allowed to slander our fans in the papers, on the radio and even on their site without anyone standing up for us, I have heard and read on numerous occasions' that sectarian and pro ira songs were sung by the majority of the crowd against inter this is a LIE, I was their and joined in with every song and chant at the game they were all pro Celtic and celebrations of our proud history, none of them were sectarian why is no one standing up for us .

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Packie Bonner is a gentleman, most people would get worked up and be on edge if in danger of missing flight.
For years we have allowed any type of Irish song as been the equal to the bile racists and sectarian chants that they have been allowed to yell out loud for decades.

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I doubt if Mulgrew has any future with Celtic . However he deserves credit for the year he played as centre half and won player of the year . Whether he could reach that standard again is a mute point, I really don't think he could play well in our style of football under Deila in any other position.

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Believe me I have dealt with many passengers under stress and I know when one is plane rude, I could go in to a few different instances but won't to spare his blushes. As for singing Irish folk or traditional songs, not my cup of tea , I have no interest in these, I'm Scottish , my club is Scottish, I sing Celtic songs and they were the ones I was singing at the inter game along with everyone else .

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Pity Fab 1, you didn't respect the origins of our club . Despite what some narrow minded bitter Scots people think, our club is Scottish with Irish Links from year one which have always been very important for the growth and success of Celtic

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So if you don't have any interest in singing Irish folk songs and have no interest in Ireland or Irish things in general and believe Celtic is predominantly a Scottish club for Scottish people you don't have respect the origin's of our club? Over the years we have had strong links to the Italian Scots who have had a massive influence on the success our club has had both in fan base and financial terms, should we All sing opera at the next game?

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Fab, how did you become a celtic supporter?, just interested, I became one because I was born in Ireland and all my family were Celtic, all my primary school in Scotland were Celtic supporters, at secondary, there was one Rangers supporter, everyone else was Celtic, it was only banter between him and every one else, but I grew up singing songs like the foggy dew, wearing of the green, boolavogue, they might be 'political songs' but they were never religious, if you don't want to sing irish songs, I think you are in the wrong club.

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Interesting points on singing songs etc. I have to say that many of the songs (both sides of the divide) have lovely tunes and lyrics. What they represent is open to question though. One of my favourites is the first verse of Patriot Games. Not because it represents any organisation but that first verse could apply to any group of patriots from any walk of life, any creed or any colour. About the love of your country. The rest of the song makes it aligned to a specific cause but that one verse sticks in my head because of the words and the melody. Just my throw-in on the point about songs - not about specific causes. Hail Hail

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No perhaps Your the one with the wrong club, my dad came here as an Italian immigrant in the 60s with his sister and became friendly with the old Scotland manager Ian mcoll and ended up driving him to the games and loved it so much he started following Celtic everywhere, so my earliest memories are being dragged around Scotland on freezing cold Wednesday nights to pittodrie and tynecastle, so as a natural progression me and around 9 of my pals got season tickets we stay around 20miles from cp and we all still go when we can some 20 years later. We all have a lot in common obviously including the fact we all attended st pats high school in Dumbarton, the one thing we also have in common is a total disinterest in all the Irish nonsense that surrounds Celtic, to a man we all see ourselves as proud Scots supporting a Scottish team and couldn't sing you a full version of one of your Irish folk songs at gun point. Oh by the way every one of us is roman catholic from birth and has suffered because of it at certain times but we are still proud Scottish supporting Celtic fans .

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Fab1 I am excited and interested to find out how the Italian link can be compared to the Irish link.
As an Italian you are probably unaware of the amount of money and labour, almost all Irish that was involved in the creating of the first Celtic Park and subsequently the second and current Celtic Stadium . For throughout the entire history of Celtic the majority of shares have been held by Irish people . First and second generation Irish represent a large % of the crowd, often the majority at Celtic matches .

So Fab, are you happy that the Italian link compares favourably to the irish link.

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Fab, I am struggling with this Italian link, could you elaborate on it for me?, I can think of Lou Macari, (one of my favourite all time celtic players), Paulo DiCanio (didnt know that he is alledgely a fascist) and that annonne guy, is the real reason you are at Celtic sectarian, ie that Celtic is percieved to be a kaflik club, whereas I am here because it used to be seen as a Scottish club founded by Irishmen

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Tiny tim, I agree with you on that, if you change the start to 'my name is mohamed i've just turned 16', or any other religiuos or political grouping, the song works, its a great antiwar song, thanks Behan.

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{Ed007's Note - We got taught The Patriot Game at school and a version was the B-Side to The Bluebells, Young at Heart. The McCluskeys went to the same school as me (they left before I went there) so I reckon it was the same music teacher that used to use it all the time.

Great post ed

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{Ed007's Note - It's a cracking version of it, Aindoh and if you listen carefully there's slight changes of lyrics to make more of an anti-war statement rather than say who's right or wrong. There are some absolutely lovely Irish songs out there, Streets of New York, The Town I Loved So Well, Boston Rose and Flight of the Earls to name a few.



Listen to any of them and tell me where there is any bigotry or sectarianism in them, the problem is that too many of 'Ra Peepul' hear an Irish accent and jump to their own warped and pre-installed conclusions - that's why they're Scotland's Shame, they're holding the country as a whole back.}

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That's the point, just because 2 or 3rd generations from any country support Celtic it doesn't mean they ask for their national folk songs to be sung . You are so ignorant you can't even read my post and call me Italian despite me writing in my posts on 3 or 4 separate occasions I am Scottish and proud of it . As for supporting anything or anyone for sectarian reasons , I abhor sectarianism whether it abe bombing innocent people in shopping centers or marching up and down town centers glorifying battles from hundreds of years ago in the name of religion, not in my name . My dream is for a modern Scottish club where your religion or background isn't a issue.

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26 Feb 2015 10:41:02
Also ainDoh if you had bothered to read my post you should have taken from it that my father started to go to Celtic game because he loved the way we played the game as in his own country there is no religious divide so he didn't have a clue about the one in our country, when he first moved to Britain he stayed in London and followed spurs because of the way they played the game .There are many Scottish sides started by Irish immigrants hibs and Dundee united to name but two, so why did you choose Celtic . Was it because a lot of the support echoes the political leaning of your old granny back in the homeland?

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Sorry Fab, I never called you Italian, that was'nt my post, I just wanted you to elaborate on the Celtic -Italian link that you mentioned.

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My apology ain doh the names are tiny on my phone I didn't realise Chris had joined in, my point about Italians was light hearted, but just like many other nationalities their community has a massive amount of ex pats who support our club, the ed speaks very eloquently of Joe Beltrami futher up the page just one example of a 2 generation Scots Italian who contributed a vast amount to our club or do you think it's only people of Irish decent who have made our club what it is? I have no problem with you enjoying your Irish roots, I personally don't see a need for Irish songs being sung at cp, we have plenty of Celtic songs.

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24 Feb 2015 09:56:30
Dear ED's, in light of innumerable recent Posts re: this phenomenon, could you please create a new Posting Section entitled, 'Comments on Ex-Players / Pundits Spouting Garbage', please? To Free valuable space for sensible(?) and non-negative comments on our Great Football Team, especially ahead of, a couple of important fixtures . It's bad enough that Media sources (with a not-so-hidden Agenda) are flooded with it on these occasions, without it creeping in to this Web-Site, also .

The Sno Man

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It was always common for ex players to comment on the club/team and it used to be very predictable and full of cliches and typical party line.
More recently there are many more outlets for ex-players to air views and there is an increase in some cynical and hyper critical comment.
Charlie Nicholas, Davie Provan and Andy Walker have been doing it for years and I thought it was scripted to suit their 'SLY' masters who are no friends of Celtic and it bothered me because they very rarely give the club who paid, them and brought them great success any credit or plaudits when due.
More recently John Hartson and Chris Sutton have been scathing in their comments and I thought maybe it was due to some inner loyalty to NL after he left Celtic under a cloud?
Whatever the reason, these guys rarely reflect the thoughts and opinions of the majority of fans.
Indeed if any ex or current players just wanted to express pro Celtic comments, they would never be given the opportunity.

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If what you say Jungle Jim is correct, it even makes these ex-Celtic players even more pathetic and useless rents . Their reputations as Celtic players got them the chance to work with Scottish media in the first place . Based on the Celtic Football club getting them the opportunity in the first place, the least they could do is show their respect for Celtic by not ridiculing the club, the manager ( whom they knew nothing about ) and the players .
Ex playing members of the people speak fondly of the new club ( a far harder task than the ex - Celts should have to speak fondly of Celtic)

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Give me the Lisbon Lions every day of the week as I was fortunate to meet most of them at supporters functions and in and around Celtic Park.
They were/are great ambassadors of the club and were paid peanuts in comparison to modern day stars.
The humour and love for Celtic from the likes of Bertie Auld, Tommy Gemmell, Jinky and Lennox will live with me forever.

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