Celtic Banter Archive August 24 2018

 

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24 Aug 2018 22:07:44
What's the deal with the boy worrall is this paper talk that's it's between us and them just a screen so when he signs for them the press can put another boot in.

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25 Aug 2018 00:29:26
Exactly.

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25 Aug 2018 08:11:28
He's going to sevco and we were never in for him.

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25 Aug 2018 10:42:00
Another 21 year old loan. Not better than Ajar.

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27 Aug 2018 00:04:19
So a Nottingham Forest, young reserve centre back, is supposed to waltz up here and solve the centre of defence, why aren't Notting Forrest playing him?

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24 Aug 2018 21:29:46
Here lads it's all rosey in the garden over at Ipox at the moment wait until they lose a game and the jitters set in and we see how they react. Right we our having a bad time at the minute but I'm sure when the window closes things will settle down. Brendan bring home 10 in a rowšŸ€.

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24 Aug 2018 21:17:32
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24 Aug 2018 20:33:42
Prediction we will be linked with every tom dick and harry and end up keeping Boyata and getting no one.

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24 Aug 2018 21:15:08
Odds on.

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24 Aug 2018 21:29:59
Nothing surer! going by Brendanā€™s comments tonite and the tone when talking about us bringing in anyone before the window shuts we should be prepared for major disappointment! Affordability and availability mentioned yet again! Which means theyā€™ll be f**k all of any note happening!

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24 Aug 2018 22:09:15
I did say at one point about the board still getting over spending all that money on Edouard I think I was right I think BR was convinced that Boyata would stay and sign on again so no need for a CB to come in.

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25 Aug 2018 00:22:59
BR knows if we are really targeting 3 or 4 players with a realistic chance of getting them. His comments of I expect the Club to bring in 3 or 4 quality players before the end of the transfer window is nonsense. It won't happen and BR knows it. So why is he still coming out with this? Is he preparing his exit route which is the board won't back me, I am off?

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27 Aug 2018 00:02:53
i remember we wer linked with christian zapata, anybody know if he is a starter for milan? age 31 but i think that would be a superb signing fast, powerful and good in the air, purely hypothetical but what yous think?

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24 Aug 2018 20:05:19
It's my belief that a large part of our failures are down to the constant negativity aimed towards us by the media .

Players constantly being linked to leave the club unsettling players whilst no bids ever being received .
Constant negative stories always in the papers about us, it unsettles the crowd and that filters down to the players on the pitch.
Negativity breeds hostility .
Whilst always publishing powder puff pieces about the other team across the city.
They are causing trouble at almost every game they have had this season yet the media will never mention that it is rangers fans .

Let's give the manager and the board until the end of the window and make our judgments then,
I'm annoyed at things within our club but let's back them and try brining some positivity back into our stands .

And ban the rags from any celtic media events in the future.

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24 Aug 2018 20:40:11
The media have always been anti Celtic.

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24 Aug 2018 20:40:55
Selboy, the problem is that we wonā€™t be doing anything major in the next week and I think we all know it. Iā€™ve not heard anything from BR to indicate heā€™s confident of bolstering the squad with any quality! . There have been a few valid points about his poor signings I. e. Kouassi Eboue, I mean the lad has been here for 2 years and never been sent on loan which I find bizarre as heā€™s only made a handful of first team appearances .

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24 Aug 2018 20:55:00
I think our club could do more to challenge the negative press we get.
Across the City at Sevco they are forever putting statements out about anything they don't like, even if some of the stories written about them are true.
We on the other hand never seem to comment on anything.
It's all very well keeping a dignified silence, but from time to time you have to put the record straight on certain things, otherwise it only gets worse.
We have lost some sloppy goals lately but to listen to some of the press and media you would think the whole club is in meltdown, it's just nonsense.
Going out of the Champions league was always going to affect the players in the short term, a lot of our planning is geared up for these qualifiers so to fail in them is bound to take a while to get over.
Our board need to get their act together in making a better job of identifying players and closing deals, but they also need to fight our corner better when so much trash is written and said about us.

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24 Aug 2018 21:22:57
So you donā€™t think crashing out if the CL was a problem? Losing McGinn? Going into face the Scouser with a defence like ours is ok? Nott replacing Oaddy and Armstrong is fine? Ā£65m slipped through our fingers. The jury is in and itā€™s verdict is guilty of negligence.

They can stop making it worse by improving the defence, but they have been tried and found guilty already. Unless you have just emerged from a coma and missed all of the above, the judgement is already in. Itā€™s just the sentence to be delivered. If they do something it might be reduced. Thatā€™s as much as they deserve, in fact, itā€™s mire than they deserve.

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24 Aug 2018 22:06:59
Magicpole. It looks to me that Steven Gerrard has got you totally spooked.
Going out of the Champions league was obviously a blow and I have said on here many times that the complacency shown by our board would cost us.
However with the players that are currently at the club we have just won back to back trebles. You make it sound as if we can't compete with the likes of East stirling or Brechin City.
The Champions league exit can't be altered, the club messed up big time, but however angry we are with the way things have been done the only thing we can do is knuckle down to the domestic stuff and make sure we learn the lessons for next time.

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24 Aug 2018 22:17:13
The negative and derogatory media have always been a factor as long as I can remember and Big Jock certainly put the fear into them, as did Sir Robert Kelly back in the day and I seem to remember Billy McNeill banning That nob Gerry McNee?
Many other Celtic managers have put up with years of taunting, distraction and even ridicule, while more recently Neil Lennon was more on the front page, than the back when he was manager.
These days Celtic Board rarely challenge, defend or fight our corner and that is why they print what they like; fake, false or fiction.

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25 Aug 2018 00:29:24
Gerryc, if Stephen Gerrard has not got you spooked then you know nothing about football. Those players who have won back to back trebles have won 2 out of their last 7 games. In 6 of those games we have conceded at least 1 goal. We are poor. Gloss it over as you like but BR needs to get these players playing much better.

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25 Aug 2018 00:49:25
I said we would still win the league. Read what I write, it helps you comment without getting what I am saying wrong.

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25 Aug 2018 11:14:55
Magicpole. I suggest you read your own post again. Where in it do you say we will win the league.
I don't know what I've said that has got you and Johnnymac so angry. I was gutted to go out of the Champions league and the transfer dealings have been a shambles, but I don't believe that domestically we have suddenly become much worse than everyone in Scotland, and I don't think that Sevco having signed a lot of out of contract and loan players are now of such quality that we should be terrified of them.
Sevco were always going to improve from last season, how couldn't they?, but how many of their first eleven would you honestly want in our team.
We need to sort things out at the back, but on balance I believe we still have the strongest squad in Scotland by a distance and the manager has to get that belief back into the players.

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25 Aug 2018 13:04:16
I said it in another post about if we donā€™t get anybody in he has to step up because we still have a better pool. Posts drop of the 3rd page and they are gone. For clarification. The board have fecked us up, we are weaker than last year. Our defence is a shambles, but even with all that, if we stand up and fight we are still better than Rangers.

We will win it in spite of the board. But that will take Rogers rallying the troops, and the troops showing their metal. We are in a self inflicted rubbish position. Typical Lawell. But, if we are betrayed with no signings we still should have enough. It will all come down to bottle and leadership.

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25 Aug 2018 13:11:35
In fact Gerry my post is two down from this saying I think we will win it. They are overhyped piss.

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25 Aug 2018 14:49:10
One more thing. Spooked by the Scouser? Are you having a fecking laugh? Heā€™s getting adulation from a Sevco loving press. Heā€™s improved them. My fecking cat could have improved that pile of utter piss. We will send him back down the road with his tail between his legs. My beef is we could and should have been in a position to fecking smash them into a jam, that doesnā€™t mean they will win. Itā€™s just I have grown fond of humiliating them every game.

We will beat them on Sunday maybe not by five or six, but we fecking should have been in a position to do that. Thatā€™s where my anger comes from. As to that CL money we should have had them they would have been buried and we could enjoy hammering them all the time as well as making a better fist of Europe.

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24 Aug 2018 17:49:45
If we don't bring in ANY new players from now until the window closes does any one think we will win the League as comfortable as the last few years Or even win the League?

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24 Aug 2018 18:09:47
I am confident we will win the league. We'll gain momentum going forward. We do need a CB. And Boyata gone. A poor start is being over examined especially by the rangers favouring media.

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24 Aug 2018 18:15:03
The points gap closed significantly, last term and we had apparently a stronger squad - if you count Armstrong and Roberts although they both missed many games with injury.
Currently we have several players that seem either surplus to requirements or not good enough to be trusted with a run in the side and a few are carrying injuries, so I would say we need at least a couple of additions and if it's true we won't get anyone in before 31/ 08, then we will be first in the queue in the January sales - hopefully still in contention on all fronts?

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24 Aug 2018 18:18:52
First question. It looks highly unlikely the tin will be found in time. Second question. I still think we can if we step up to the plate. Rangers are overhyped. They are much better than last year, but if our squad canā€™t be that load of rubbish then we have been deluding ourselves for a couple of years.

It amazes me, re the defence, that there doesnā€™t seem to be one player in the Academy 19+,
that is better than the players we have. If thatā€™s true, then let all of them go on Monday.

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24 Aug 2018 18:42:43
I haven't seen any of the Servco games at all this year can't argue that they have improved by what people say (no pun) but I think we have taken a step back from the standard we had last season just hope even with the step back we still have enough to get through this year but still hoping for new quality before the end of the window can't see any other team coming close.

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24 Aug 2018 18:43:33
Over the full season double figures.

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24 Aug 2018 19:41:43
Last year despite beating Aberdeen and Rangers the points gap wasnā€™t great

This year even if we still beat them both if they both are more consistent then that gap will fall.

Celtic - have certainly taken a few steps back
Aberdeen - looked really poor against 10 men and even at Dundee
Rangers as much as it pains me are miles better than last year and on a good run so potentially can reduce the points gap if we donā€™t get our fingers out from top to bottom.

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24 Aug 2018 20:29:54
We will struggle as things stand at the moment as we seem to have fallen into bad habits of the 2nd half of last season. I'm sure once the French connection is back up front and we can shuffle between the new set up planned during pre season we will start hammering teams again. Certainly need a lift with new signings. CB I'd say Boyata, Bitton and Compper out and buy someone decent that isn't the cheap option and get JT in to bring on Ajer and Hendry. I wouldn't mind us selling Jozo either he's a liability and too injury prone. Hopefully we can spend some cash and get in a box to box midfielder and decide which RB to keep and who needs replacing too. RW a loan would suffice for now to keep Forrest on his toes.

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24 Aug 2018 20:35:08
Everyone needs to stop panicking and settle down with "the points gap"
Of course it was closer because the year before we didn't lose a game!
Maybe a lot of fans have been spoilt because of the invincible season.
I watched the orcs last night and they are still rubbish.

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25 Aug 2018 00:31:54
Tony2, I don't think we will win the league unless we bring in 3 quality players. Do I think we will bring in any quality player? The answer is no.

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24 Aug 2018 17:22:37
Funny how the mssm work sevco scrape a 1-0 win against the 8th best team in Russia and it's all positive, We get a draw and were miles ahead of the Lithuanian champions but it's all gegative mmm bit of paranoia setting in.

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24 Aug 2018 17:55:19
Theyā€™re not going for eight in a row Mally. Theyā€™re coming from the gutter and being knocked out by Progres so this start is beyond what they hoped for. Weā€™re meandering from one bad result to another and last night was no exception. Theyā€™re ahead of where they were expected to be and weā€™re miles behind where we should be and playing the worst football of BRā€™s reign. The media have called it spot on.

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24 Aug 2018 18:09:56
If Celtic had won 1-0 last night it would have been all negative but sevco get a positive vibe.

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24 Aug 2018 18:20:41
UFU will knock that shower out.

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24 Aug 2018 18:25:37
No it wouldnā€™t. Itā€™s been negative because the goal we lost was an absolute embarrassment just like most of the other goals we continue to concede. Are you seriously suggesting they shouldnā€™t get positive press for winning their game and keeping a clean sheet?

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24 Aug 2018 19:07:30
My point us it's a very slender lead if it had been us that would have been the story . tie on an knifedge and we struggled. Where you been kev.

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24 Aug 2018 20:38:33
The biggest problem last night was Gordon coming out for a cross as usual. He is a great shot stopper but a terrible keeper when it comes to crosses.
What decent keeper would let a player come across in front of them. terrible.

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24 Aug 2018 22:03:18
I know what your point isnā€™t Mally but I totally disagree with it. We canā€™t completely dominate Scottish football for the best part of a decade and constantly brag about how much better we are than the rest then expect not to be held to a higher standard than the rest. More is expected of us because weā€™re the best, take it as a compliment.

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24 Aug 2018 17:15:05
Does anyone think that with the board not recruiting to a level we need for the next level and all the talk of a fall out between the board and BR, at the same time as the team stop performing to the level we know they can, is BR possibly getting everyones backup and potentially the problem. Your thoughts.

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24 Aug 2018 17:33:12
No Johnboy, it is totally the board at fault. BR has said publicly that he just wants the best for the club and fans. He must be tearing his hair out and no wonder he's making public statements. Keeping the talking private is not working so he has to call the board out in public. I'm sure he doesn't want to have to do that but he seems to have no other option. They are a disgrace to our club. HH.

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24 Aug 2018 17:43:22
Johnbhoy, board looked after every whim that BR had in January window . I imagine there is now a major enquiry as how Celtic got it so wrong . I can't see B R taking any responsibility and I am afraid us Celtic fans could suffer.

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24 Aug 2018 17:44:15
To be honest johnbhoy1888 l can t see any new players especially CB. I said here already there are 5, Yes 5 hard to believe CB at the club. Maybe if they can get rid of Boyata there might be a small chance but l think what is there is it. Especially the way things are going behind the scenes at Celtic. Hope it gets sorted and that l am wrong and they get new faces in.

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24 Aug 2018 18:05:30
Bob the cat. BR needs to stop talking about lack of support and get back to getting the team playing again. We all ckaim we have the bedt squad in Scotland. I agree with that we have better players, yet we have only won 2 games out of our last 7, and conceeded at least 1 goal in our last 6. That is not league winning form. Everyone mocked Gerrard. An under 18's youth coach. No experience etc yet they are unbeaten in 10 games and have 8 clean sheets. If BR isn't careful his reputation as a top coach is in trouble. We are not playing anywhere near our potential and I can't see any evidence thsts its going to change soon unless BR starts to lead the team. The wage bill is up from Ā£32mill when he took over to Ā£57mill now, so we can't say he has not had his way re contracts and wsges. He has great plsyers, he now nerds to get acceptable performances from what he has got. This all started going wrong since the fall out with the board over transfers. The players are at it now, read Gordons comments. It needs to stop. The Board do need to give him funds to buy. He brought in his transfer guru which has been a mistake. I believe he is a top manager but he is not blameless in this either. Hendry and Comper are his signings. Boyota not being sold was his decision. The Sept 2nd will be a big day for him and he needs those players scrapping for him so he is the only man who can sort this out. What is BR saying? Is he telling us that we have wasted money on Hendry and Comper but forget that and give me more? Unfortunately we have to give him more or we are in even bigger trouble so the Board have to act but previous decisions made are coming home to roost. Just blaming the Board is not the entire truth. The wage bill is going to be over Ā£60mill this sesson. Our total turnover will be maybe Ā£75mill topps. I don't want us to do a Rangers. SG has put a team together who look more dangerous than us. He spent about Ā£9mill, so tell me what the heck is going on.

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24 Aug 2018 18:18:50
It shouldnā€™t matter if we have 6 or 8 Centre Halfā€™s if we can sign better it must be done

We possibly have 12 defenders inc GK at the club Iā€™d only keep Bain, Ajer and KT

The rest can be sold, loaned or freed

While Iā€™m here I canā€™t believe that I read Craig Gordon saying players need to cut out errors etc when he is the biggest calamity at our club.

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24 Aug 2018 18:28:25
I have read on here that BR has a huge Ego and maybe a stubborn streak, so it's very possible he is not blameless in the current situation and is clearly not as happy in the job as before.
There's also no denying he has been well backed by the board since he came, but we have not brought in enough real class, but have wasted money on guys like DE Vries, Compper and Benyu; plus often failing to replace players we sell for big profits with similar/ better quality.

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24 Aug 2018 18:29:56
Rogers coukd see a good defender if he fell over one. Thatā€™s been a constant throughout his career even when he had bags of loot. He is to blame for the two duds he has bought. A total and utter waste of money. He needs to inspire his players to try and overcome the total lack of support this window. If he is given money he needs to uk his game drastically re defenders, up until January his judgement in this area of the team has been embarrassing.

I canā€™t see him getting a coin. This us where we will see his true metal. Itā€™s been a walkover up until now. He us dreading the abuse and humiliation that will come his way if an under 18 coach hands him his arse. And to be honest, he will deserve all he gets as we still have a far superior pool than The Scouser.

Letā€™s see how he handles it when we are up against it thatā€™s the test of a leader.

He looks as if his bottle has gone. Needs to sort himself out. Fast.

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24 Aug 2018 19:58:53
Magicpole the entire episode has been very disappointing. So many bad decisions since January 18 but its now compounded with the Board not playing ball. The money needs to be reigned in at some point. Ā£60mill in wages is unsustainable. So PL either pulls it now or next season. To be fair the Board expects better results than we are getting and so do the fans. The issue is we have spent money on bang average players. That money is gone and we are paying their wages. Hayes, DeVries, Commper, Hendry etc not hood buys and the main players have not performed either.

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24 Aug 2018 21:09:33
Well they had better start, pretty soon. The window is gone. I will be really surprised if we do anything. And even more so if the players are actually any good. We need to be prepared to fight. Rogers needs to earn his corn now. He has a challenge that wasn't helped by a board happy to go backwards. If thatā€™s it, then he goes with what we have and let Lawell know exactly how we feel about him, whilst supporting the team. An utter shambles, but we need to be ready to show we are still the champions.

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25 Aug 2018 00:48:13
Magicpole, i could see BR gone in 7 days.

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24 Aug 2018 16:57:41
Is Broon suspended for the 02 September?

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24 Aug 2018 21:11:18
If not he will be. Bide yer time,

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24 Aug 2018 14:54:43
Isn't it about time lawell came out and told us what the effs going on, even sevcos dodgy chairman at least comes and speaks to the gullibles, getting the impression lawells treating us like the gullibles.

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24 Aug 2018 15:26:46
With only Ajer fit, Boyata wanting away, Compper deal a disaster, Hendry injured and not god enough, Simunovic injured and not good enough where's the urgency from the board to get this clusterfu*k sorted. Still no news or even word that we are working on this matter asap. Ed have you head anything? I will be gutted along with most of our fanbase if nothings done about this shambles at the back.

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24 Aug 2018 17:04:12
If Compper was ever fit then he would have probably been good for Ajer and Hendry. If he can stay fit now he may have some part to play but the chances of that are incredibly slim given whatā€™s happened so far.

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24 Aug 2018 17:13:41
It is about time, he first came in and wanted to clear debt. Job done. Then he wanted to build finance and imrpvoe some off the field stuff. That's done.

We now have money in the bank, success and a chance to build on it and blow away the competition while getting some decent Euro nights.

but instead we are back to spending zero. Which is in Lawwells best interest as he gets a bonus due to our finances so he never will spend without balancing the books.

but really we are going to go nowhere doing that. One step forward and two steps back. Time to build on success and not go stagnant.

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24 Aug 2018 17:19:33
Compper a disaster, hayes bang average, kouassi 3 mill and looks average, gamboa won't do, Hendry looks out his depth, jozos hopeless and always injured, boyata saga a shambles, even ajer is starting to make mistakes, throw in eddys injury and the mousses, but apart from all that I think things are looking up.

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24 Aug 2018 17:44:06
I am all for keeping the books balanced really its a must But we must have enough to freshin up the squad with good quality or the scouting system we have is not working not saying we have to spend millions Just feels like something is wrong just now And why we didn't do that at the start of the window open I just can't understand.

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24 Aug 2018 17:53:19
Tesla very good statement but untrue . Peter Lawwell is given many different targets to meet, not solely financial. The Board monitors his progress towards meeting these various targets and allocates appropriate bonuses to him .

Mallythetally . P L doesn't hold a similar position to D King, the lying Chairman .
I would hope we never stoop so low that we would want our Chairman Ian Bankier would stoop as low as King of Rangers 2012.

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24 Aug 2018 18:12:28
Chris i am not saying he's on a par with the lying king god forbid am saying at least he tells the gullibles what's happening even if it is a lie šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

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24 Aug 2018 18:29:41
The statement Chris is not untrue. All his commitments is based towards making money, including any team performance targets.

but Lawwell knows if we spent Ā£40mil say on the squad and then made the CL groups 3 times.

He knows he can spend less and say qualify twice out of the 3, spending less money, but earning us the same profits without the risk of spending as much.

it's a low risk strategy he is taking and it guarantees him his bonus every year.

He even took his bonus under Deila and Mowbray, which most CEOs would have been chased for.

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24 Aug 2018 18:31:05
All together now:- 'Always look on the bright side of life, doo dooroo doo doo doo doo doo'

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24 Aug 2018 18:47:08
That always made me smile thru the rubbish years OAB.

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25 Aug 2018 00:55:53
Tesla You don't seem to understand P Lawweell 's role with Celtic . Neither P L wages or bonuses are based on success of the Celtic 1st team and that is why he was able to get his Bonuses when Delia and Mowbray were present .
I am quite sure B R would not have his CEO depending on team's success or anything else football related as it would be tying BR hands.

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24 Aug 2018 14:35:15
Being reported that Jozo is having a scan on the injury he picks up last night and Hendry out for Sunday which if we believe Boyata is injured we will have Ajer and Compper if we can find him being our only CHs for Sunday how come we've got to this state?

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24 Aug 2018 15:26:39
Starting to wonder if whoever decided to get Izzy back will be on the phone to get Eric back tonight? ha ha.

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24 Aug 2018 15:28:32
To be honest Rich it looks like players are taking a dive by me. Where are the days of playing for the jersey, club, team mates fans etc. Softest CB l have even seen. They will go with lusting at CB l would think. šŸ™ god help us!

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24 Aug 2018 15:29:37
Be 3 at the back with lustig ajer and Teirney on Sunday.
Or maybe Teirney at CB and Izzy at left back.

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24 Aug 2018 17:15:30
Tbf to Jozo, I think he legit has plastic knees. His career will be cut short at some point.

it was obvious when we tried to sell him and the other team didn't want him after a medical.

We are getting our monies worth and tbh I think he could have been a decent player if he wasn't riddled with problems.

I feel it's over for him though and we would be lucky to reclaim a fee for him.

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24 Aug 2018 14:01:09
After thinking about last night's game I have come to this conclusion :-
Suduva are the champions of their country so probably at home are not going to be easy to beat although I think we should be doing so. First half we should have had that team beat but for whatever reason we didn't. Second half we were very poor, no movement off the ball from the midfield or up top. The blame has to go with the players. These guy's are highly paid professional players who I reckon are not putting in the same effort and desire as when BR first arrived. You don't become a bad player suddenly and I am now beginning to wonder if the manager has the same hunger to get the very best out of these guys or if it is just a case of you just can't keep up that same level of performance all the time without the right kind of additions to keep everyone fresh. Take ntcham for instance first half was great last night but second it was like watching a different player he was woeful, now if he had Mcginn sitting on the bench to come on and take his place would he have been so poor in second half? I very much doubt it. Can BR sort this out? I'm not so sure he can I do think he really wants to though.
I also think for any new signings to come in we probably have to offload a few first.

Come on Celtic get the finger out we all love you šŸ’ššŸ€.

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24 Aug 2018 13:37:36
Still can't understand why we put Izzy on last night when we were looking for a goal.

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24 Aug 2018 14:29:27
Because we went to a back three.

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24 Aug 2018 14:52:32
Still would make more sense bringing Sinclair on bigp. We wanted goals.

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24 Aug 2018 18:23:36
I think BR was maybe making a point about the team with the subs.

Leigh Griffiths for me has taken 3 steps back most likely due to the constant injuries and canā€™t see him playing much if the French Bhoys stay fit.

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24 Aug 2018 11:47:29
Don't know why it's even debated now and how some people still in denial about the downsizing.

That was Suduva we struggled against. Suduva.

AEK was bad enough.

Rodgers came in and the board could have been forced to spend but he saved them money by vastly improving some stalling players in the side.

He has now earned backing but where is it?

See people trying to justify 1-1 away to Suduva as a good result, if that's our level now we would be as well not turning up for Europe.

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24 Aug 2018 12:18:31
Tesla369

Know one is forcing you to go. Things are bad at the moment board have fecked up bit to say Suduva is our level isn't accurate.

Celtic are vastly superior than them. We will be in the europa league they won't.

We had a bad night against red imps and survived. Maybe take up Ameture dramatics think you would make a good drama queen HH.

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24 Aug 2018 12:39:51
Itā€™s not just the board. The manager and the players need to stand up and be counted. Look at the defence - We desperately need a keeper that actually opens his mouth during a match and who has the balls to leave his goal line and come and take high balls. We also need an old fashioned centre half that isnā€™t afraid to stick his nut on everything. Thereā€™s practically zero communication at the moment between the back four and Gordon.

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24 Aug 2018 12:40:46
I can understand people that try to take positives and avoid criticism and complaining and we all know how lucky we are to support, love and enjoy such a unique and special club/ team.
However, having watched us through the highs and lows, the ecstasy and the unbearable for over five decades; this is potentially one of the most successful periods in recent times and we are in danger of taking our eye off the ball and bringing it all to a premature end and why is that?
This is not just a CL hangover, the team are nowhere good enough to be in the premier tournament, because we haven't improved enough or learned lessons from previous experiences in Europe.
Maybe too many players think, they've done it all domestically and don't need to give 100% all of the time?
There is a predictability about our formation, style of play and reliance on one or two individuals to carry the rest.
Most of the squad if they were honest, would admit that they are well below their expected standards and some seem to have lost even the basics skills of their position and responsibility.
The manager has repeatedly stated the desire to improve and not to stand still, but signings like:- Hayes, Compper, Eboue, Gamboa and Hendry have - if anything - weakened our choices and efficiency?
The Board have again dithered and stalled their way to the end of yet another 'window' apparently doing their scouting via SMM.
Creating a rift and maybe lack of trust with a manager that has lifted six out of six trophies and was greeted like The Messia.
Please, please Celtic Football Club, take a deep breath, a long look in the mirror; clear the air and move FORWARD.

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24 Aug 2018 12:45:57
Happy i think folk are allowed their own opinion and right now people want to vent. An imo its fully justified to be concerened. We are leaking goals like a siv and on the other side of Glasgow they still sit undefeated since the "revolution" of the G-String. If you have no concern, and don't think recent performances place us with teams like last night then i fear your going to ve disappointed pretty soon.

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24 Aug 2018 13:24:41
Shug

Were did I say I had no concerns. I'm not a happy clapper and can't stand Celtic plc.

Saying we are the same level as Suduva isn't venting anger. It's talking pish. Celtic are better than that level. Utter nonsense being spouted.

Also I couldn't care what the persons are doing.

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24 Aug 2018 13:25:32
Look at the state of some replies you get. So because we beat Suduva and get to the groups all will be ok?

It's almost like yer never allowed to say the truth about Celtic even if it's bad.

Then a comment saying we need a better keeper. Does anyone remember why we have Gordon? - that's right the board wanted a cheap option after selling Forster.

Also Hoppy, it's no amateur dramatics, it's just facts. We have needed an improved squad, even since the season we went undefeated domestically.

Then you see people blaming managers, coaches and scouts. but never the board

but common logic tells you we have had different managers, coaches and scouting teams and yet get the same old transfer windows and lack of improvement to build on success.

the only constant in that is the board so use your brain and take the green tinted specs off.

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24 Aug 2018 13:58:48
Tesla

You talk some rubbish were did I say I was happy with board or what's going on. Or if we beat Suduva we will be ok.

I'm calling you out for the simple fact you say Celtic are at the same level as Suduva. IMO Suduva are about par with killie and I've seen us draw their.

I know all the problems board/ CH. Lack of funds but saying we are on par with Suduva is rubbish. Doesn't matter how you spin your reply. Drama queen pish.

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24 Aug 2018 14:24:28
Brilliant post Tesla, as you say, donā€™t dare criticise the Celtic. The warning signs are there boys, if people want to ignore them, then thatā€™s up to them. If we donā€™t sign any more players this window then we are in trouble, we simply canā€™t move forward and progress with the current defence. This is not a surprise itā€™s cost us dearly this season and will continue to do so until itā€™s fixed by bringing in new players.

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24 Aug 2018 14:34:33
Hoppy I doubt he meant our clubs are the same level overall ut last nights performance was no better than theirs. The score was 1-1, they're not a great side but at the moment neither are we. HH.

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24 Aug 2018 17:09:11
HappyHoppy I dunno how you got that from my post. I was pointing out that no matter how bad our results get people always try to justify it.

like yer not allowed to say a bad word about Celtic.

We should be wiping the floor with Suduva. We should be beating AEK comfortably.

but we didn't and some people are still happy about what's going on at the club.

When I said "if that's our level" I didn't mean my own opinion. I'm saying the opinions of others are happy with 1-1 results against Suduva etc.

we will still go through, but it's not good enough. Even if we beat AEK it still wasn't good enough.

I was saying the same when we finished 3rd in CL groups and people called it "progress"

but I was here saying how terrible we look and all I got was backlash for speaking the truth.

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24 Aug 2018 10:47:15
OK let's get last night's game out of the way first, is anyone really surprised we always look poor away from home? but 1-1 is a good result, remember Sudova are regular competitors in europe and we will win at Celtic park, remember also last time we played them we only won 2-1 over there.
We now have 3 home games to start producing again, and then the confidence will return.
Also remember we have had more than our fair share of injuries so early in the season which has disrupted our preparations. Bitton, I think if fit, could have helped our defence. But once all our players are back I anticipate a good season.
Brendan was RIGHT, to have a pop at Lawwell but WRONG with the timing, he should have waited until after the Athens games.
It is now up to everyone, the manager, board, players and fans to now show a united front and win this Treble, Treble.
PS IF Boyata plays on Sunday, give him laldy, but then if he knuckles down and tightens our leaky defence then we should all support him.

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24 Aug 2018 10:59:38
All support him! That the guy thatā€™s pretended 3 times now heā€™s injured so he doesnā€™t have to play aye? That clown will never get my support, I couldnā€™t care less if he scored a hat trick against the tribute act! This diddy is done at our club and the quicker he pisses off the better!

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24 Aug 2018 11:16:38
Off to Turkey hopefully.

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24 Aug 2018 11:28:41
Tim correct me if I am wrong but the last time we played over there did we not drop half our first team player because we had a 8-1 score going in to it?

As for boyata I said if the manager needs to pick him I'd back him but he should NEVER wear anything with our crest on it again, never mind a first team jersey.

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24 Aug 2018 12:18:22
Guys Boyata is not my favourite person just now, but any player who wears our famous colours gets my support until he leaves.

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24 Aug 2018 12:40:11
Absolutely not Timalloy. He's a major reason in our loss against aek. Hopefully he leaves this window otherwise leave him out in the cold.

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24 Aug 2018 12:48:53
I think that's Kevs point Tim. He will support, but he shouldn't need to cause Boyata should never wear the strip again. Sonething i agree with. Personally i don't think he brings anything anyway, so i still think we would be in the same place.

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24 Aug 2018 13:19:58
I find it funny the teams that are linked with him as they are good teams and he is an average defender at his best.

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24 Aug 2018 15:44:42
I'm on the fence with boyata he's still a celtic player and therefore should be utilised by the manager. That's the managers job. I would hate to see him Don the crest again but if need be then so be it. Every Rangers fan to a man celebrated when Judas scored against us don't tell me we wouldn't go mental if boyata scored the winner next Sunday. Speaking hypothetically there because he will be gone by then.

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24 Aug 2018 18:07:16
Timalloy, Brendan was right to speak out, it wasn't the timing that was wrong, it was Brendan speaking publicly and giving the SMSM the best opportunity in years to put the boot into Celtic .
The club is divided and players concentration has been damaged .
We are in serious trouble .



I backed B Rodgers from the day and hour since he came to Celtic. I hope he hasn't ended his Celtic career and I hope we can all unite together.

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24 Aug 2018 10:41:20
Joe Worral we are linked with

The guy Rangers want fir back up and another cheap look an option - surely not after the last few debacles weā€™ve had to endure recently.

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24 Aug 2018 11:29:36
A lot of pish fae the papers again.

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24 Aug 2018 10:29:44
Samir Memisevic linked on Twitter probably a lot of rubbish.

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24 Aug 2018 11:12:03
Well the defensive chickens we all knew would come home to roost have now, through complete mismanagement, put us in a position where no team should think they canā€™t score against us. If anybody thinks we will buy the two or three defensive players we need after the CL financial loss, they probably are in the group who think Rangers wonā€™t be a threat. In other words, deluded happy clappers who refuse to even consider whatā€™s actually happening.

Rogers is gutted. He should be but he has tonremember he is the leader and still has to be strong. If his goes down the teamā€™s head goes down. We cannot let rubbishbags on the board to undermine us any more and need to man up and fight. We have always had boards with a big yellow streak, disguised as a prudent outlook. They are cowards, but the team donā€™t have to be.

Next week we go in to play Rangers with them thinking they just need to turn up. I like that about them, it is their eternal weakness and we must exploit it. Rogers has to lift them. Thatā€™s why he is paid a fortune and it is when the rubbish hits the fan, true leaders stand up. Iā€™m nit liking his demeanour. He looks defeated too.

I know Rangers have improved but even with Lawell ruining everything, we can still beat them. If we fall then retribution should take place on the board. We will qualify for the EL, but time needs to be called on Lawell. He has shat it once too many. He is the cause of our malaise and he needs to be ousted.

We will never move forward with him at the helm. Thatā€™s the hard truth. Keep Lawell keep being sold a pup. That doesnā€™t give the team a bye to down tools. Or Rogers to let his reasonable dissapoibtmentbckoud what we need to do. We have to fight inspite of the board. I think UFU will knicknRsngers out next week, we will qualify then beat them on Sunday. It wonā€™t be as easy as it should have been due to unforgivable Lawellism.

That has to be put to the side and we need to stand up and be counted. All our misplaced optimism is lying in tatters and it is at these times character is required. The next three games and particularly the next two will tell us what kind of season we are in for. Thanks Peter itā€™s all down to you. Go now.

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24 Aug 2018 10:00:12
Howya Lads,

First time poster but long time reader there is definitely a lack of confidence around the team at the minute but that can all change with one positive result and I for one will be glad when this window shuts so Brendan knows exactly what he is working with. Brendan and Brooney will want nothing more than to put this mob back into there place and show them who is top dog I also think we need to play out part as well as we are also causing a lot of negativity. Maybe this young lad we signed from City might give us that spark we need look what Brendan got out of Paddy. Definitely think we start to get behind the lads as we are not helping the situation either. Bring home 10 in a row BrendanšŸ€.

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24 Aug 2018 09:29:16
Well, that was an utter disgrace and needs a scatter gun approach when dissecting an awful display. If you eliminate the game, it's clear things are not right. I noticed a few weeks ago the team seemed to have lost the closeness and edge they had, and last night seemed even worse.

What could have caused this? We have to ignore the gossip and deal in facts. At the season start we looked sharp and fit, not blowing teams away, but winning and the seeds were there for us to see. So what's happened? For me there are real problems, from Lawwell and BR's relationship to the players with BR. Last nights presser by BR was cutting and clearly a dig.

Players in my opinion need to face up first and foremost. We have games where some players are just not on it, CalMac and Jamesy were empty shirts last night, and a defence that is likely to concede with any kind of ball into the box. Every time a cross, low or high, comes into our zone it's like someone pulled the pin on a grenade. Gordon, especially last nights goal, must be looked at. Personally i would have Bain in, comes for crosses which alleviates some pressure off the defence and is much better with the ball at his feet.

We have no insight here, and that's the trouble. Celtic are expecting this to burn itself out i would think. Win the next three and all is well. Right now i find the idea of us winning three games in a row laughable, not because we could not do it, but for us to win any game right now we need a two goal start. Teams don't need to attack us, just wait till a dead ball, punt it in the box and we will cough something up.

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24 Aug 2018 09:45:06
Gordon came out like a big woman and jozo has the heart of a pea the board have played a blinder if your a sevconian.

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24 Aug 2018 09:46:57
Hi Lads,

First time poster but long time reader, I agree with everyone we definitely need to freshen up the squad but I also feel as soon as the window shuts it should bring an end to all this negativity and the lads will push on, I think Brendan and Brooney will drill it into the lads we are a unit and will be more determined to shut that other lot up! Iā€™m hoping that all we need is one good result to kick start our season and maybe that young lad we brought in from City might bring that spark we need.

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24 Aug 2018 10:26:26
Surely to god we'll see the Lithuanians off next week? That was a pub team we played last night and we looked the same.
It doesn't take a genius to see the way Slippy will set up for the 2nd. Long, high balls up to the Laughfarty one and the angry Buffalo feeding off him. Even with his tendency to balloon over the bar and get caught offside, he will get enough chances to score. It really, really pains me to say but this is the first Celtic Sevco game I am worrying about.
The next three games are going to be pivotal for our season.

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24 Aug 2018 11:28:09
There is absolutely no doubt the manager's demeanor and body language is affecting the team and our defenders have lost concentration and their basic ability to defend, while the forward players are falling into bad habits, predictability and even going through the motions (Forrest, Moussa and McGregor last night) .
The distractions and disruption will settle down - one way or another - but we really need more leadership on the field.
Apart from Brown - who has struggled all season, there are no big personalities, leaders, or organizers - especially at the back and it is so obvious when things go wrong, or we have a set-back.
Most of the current team need to snap out of it as they are not wee bhoys anymore and have more experience of the demands of playing for Celtic, the pride, passion and winning mentality.
The manager may still have an axe to grind with Lawell and time will tell what concludes; but it's time these players gave themselves a shake and prove they are still the best in the land.

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24 Aug 2018 09:13:07
Apparently Lee congerton has fulfilled a lifetime ambition and decided to travel round the world to see the sites he left at the end of May and is due back on the 1 September.

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24 Aug 2018 10:24:04
Recruitment policy / recruiter of players has been shocking for years and needs a complete overhaul we've got away with it domestically as all is shockingly bad . since lenny took over 2010 (I'm going on 8 in a row to coincide it) focusing just on centre halves which is our biggest need imo . list of ins

Mulgrew
Mouyolouko
Wilson
Toure
Mastrovic above all free
Denayer loan
Commper 1 m
Hendry 1.2 m
Shevvy 1.5
Ambrose 1.5
Boyata 1.5
Vvd.2.6 m
Simo 3.m

13 players approx 12.5 million and only one that I'd like to see still here vvd. the rest average to rubbish . one real success player in 8 years is absolutely shocking . worst thing thiugh is if boyata goes for the figures quoted we will have a profit of 19 mill approx. (great) but still have an average or rubbish central defence depending on how critical you are .

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24 Aug 2018 13:49:23
how can the scouts get the blame when the same was happening before congerton was even here?

The scouts job is to find targets, if the board are not willing to spend to get the better targets on the list then it's not the scouts fault.

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24 Aug 2018 08:04:39
I honestly can't see Rodgers staying beyond this season. It's obvious his ambitions and Peter lawwells ambitions are miles apart. I also think the players have been picking up on his frustration and it is crossing over onto the pitch.
I wouldn't blame Rodgers for leaving either if he feels he can't progress.

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24 Aug 2018 10:00:14
Iā€™m not really too concerned about that, if last nights display is anything to go by.

Thatā€™s the first time Iā€™ve ever fallen asleep watching a Celtic game. It was dire.

The fans are all on the boards back and thatā€™s fair enough, itā€™s been a poor transfer window with poor decisions made.
However how can anyone blame the board for last nights game, or even the AEK game? We should be wiping the floor with teams like that with our B team.

If this was any other manager we would all be questioning him. I appreciate itā€™s hard to do that to a guy that has won a double treble. Nonetheless, half of his time here we have played boring football. This year we will prove whether it was the first or second season that was a one off.

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24 Aug 2018 13:54:13
I think a lot of people were disrespectful and arrogant towards AEK, they are the Greek champions and a very good defensive side for their level.

Aye we have much more money and resources than the likes of AEK but we aren't using it so clearly that leaves you at their level.

again the fault lying at the boards methods, which is good to clear debt but we need to build on that now.

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24 Aug 2018 07:50:11
I am the total optimist when it comes to my team but. our board NEED to get the finger out and so does Brendan. Our defence is absolutely abysmal. I seriously doubt we will win win 2 trophies this year never mind 3 with our defence playing this badly whilst the front line cannot create more up front to compensate. The great late Mr Stein said it doesn't matter how many goals you concede as long as you score more. Well right now we aren't doing that. We have the players in mid and up top capable they just lack the confidence. That's down to Brendan! I believe we will do 8 in a row. I believe we will come good. Because i believe that Mr Desmond is going to be a very very unhappy chappy today (and I mean post semi final loss to the person's umhappy) . either we will sign 2 players outright or we will get loans in place to push us on and get the job done. I have to believe. WE ARE CELTIC SUPPORTERS FAITHFUL THROUGH AND THROUGH HH 3 to go till 10 in a row.

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24 Aug 2018 07:00:50
If your honey g and you've been doing your homework you'll just pump high balls i to our box for 90 mins and you'll pump us.

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24 Aug 2018 07:47:28
Thatā€™s exactly what they will be doing mate up to that donkey Lafferty and try play off him he only ever has 4 decent games a season but we are too soft.

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24 Aug 2018 08:10:54
Go down the left and cut ball back to 18 yard line. Works everytime against us.

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24 Aug 2018 09:20:49
Campsie that is the only reason they signed lafferty. They know every time he plays against us he bullies the defence and gets his own way. It's all well and good BR wanting so called CB who can play ball but ours can t and more importantly they can't defend either. The number one priority for any defended is to defend. We have the softest bunch of defenders with the exception of KT l have seen at Celtic. Defenders are meant to be so called hard men of teams and no nonsense players. It is simply if you don't concede then u don't loss games. I think someone there needs to look at Martin O Neill and what he done with the defence. Big hard strong players who no one bullied and had a nasty side to them. Solid as a rock. We simply don't have anything like that.

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24 Aug 2018 06:51:50
Having watched the game last night, our inability to defend is becoming a real major concern. Time after time Brendan is now saying " it needs to be better " I'm sorry but it's clear to see this bunch aren't capable of producing better and certainly don't seem to learn from their mistakes. Game after game we're witnessing the same shocking defending and we can all say" it's ok we'll still win the league etc bla bla bla" it's not the point. The point is we've gone stale big time. Rodgers said in an interview last week" this suduva team isn't like the team Celtic played in the Seville run" I'm sorry but that team last night we're dreadful. A decent on the ball celtic team would've won that game 4/ 5/ 6 easily last night. We can all see how this next 7 days are going to pan out, we'll let this clock run down till Friday then be running about like rabbits caught in the headlights trying to panic buy, is bloody pathetic. Really has to be one of the worst transfer windows of recent times. Call it panicking, call it what you will but if we don't make big changes in that defence before this window closes then I do fear that we have given the mob across the city a real boost in where they want to be, and as much as it pains me to say it, they will be right up our shirt tails this season. Absolutely scandalous from our board/ management that from a real position of strength we've sat on our laurels and allowed this to happen. It's not too late to sort this mess out but by god Celtic being Celtic really are running out of time to sort this out.

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24 Aug 2018 06:01:35
Celtic bring in a centre back before next week or we will lose the derby and the league.

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24 Aug 2018 06:50:25
And start Scott Bain.

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24 Aug 2018 07:15:23
Most ridiculous statement yet.

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24 Aug 2018 09:24:41
Why do u think that welshybhoy? Do u think this side are good enough to win the league with a defence like that?

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24 Aug 2018 09:29:12
Have done for the last 7 seasons. but the defence is our weakest department.

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24 Aug 2018 05:20:22
I see a lot of people here are now Mcginn and Mckenna Fans. The shortcomings within the squad are becoming apparrent.
An inability to keep a clean sheet, a lack of depth and quality.
Bad full backs and midfielders unwilling to track back
I have said before we will score against anyone but cannot defend.
Alot of soul searching required and quickly.

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23 Aug 2018 22:59:42
I see the mighty Burnley from the pub league down the road got humped from a team that finished below AEK last season, wonder what the English pundits have to say about this. Sean Dyches excuse was a classic, "we've had long tiring trips to Turkey and Aberdeen and it's taken it's toll" ha ha long trip from Burnley to Aberdeen šŸ˜‚.

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23 Aug 2018 22:56:46
Celtic away goal in draw. Rangers take slim lead to Russia. 7th best team in English premier league thrashed by second best team (behind AEK Athens) in Greece. That's real news.

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24 Aug 2018 06:55:08
Doesn't get away from the fact we were pants Andy and our defence couldn'y keep weans oot a close.

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24 Aug 2018 07:53:27
He's got a point, unless we hump a team it's panty wetting yet that mob n an epl get to see the bigger picture. True we don't keep a clean sheet n it's a worry but qualifying is all that matters, getting through the window n putting a run together. HH.

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23 Aug 2018 23:22:27
Agree rab, mikey was great! fans rightly are annoyed, i am too, but all this talk of we won't win the league is laughable.

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24 Aug 2018 03:28:29
We will most definitely win the league but half the players currently at the club aren't good enough. A major shake up is needed to get us to the next level in Europe as settling for dominating in Scotland just doesn't cut it for me.
And when I say a major shake up is needed, I mean right throughout the club from the boardroom, coaching staff, scouting and players.

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24 Aug 2018 06:56:43
Perfect example is gamboa played well Sat and should have been buzzing and puts in a mare and big lustig came on and looked knackered.

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23 Aug 2018 23:26:21
I said on here we should have bid 4 million for McGinn, someone, can't remember who, took me to task, by saying, if someone else is getting him for 3 million, why should we have to pay 4. was going to reply at the time, well just think about it for it for a minute, but couldn't be bothered, it wasn't just the board, most of the ones on here were saying, he is not worth 2 million.

if they don't accept it, just leave him and sign him on a pre contract in January, some on here go Lady gaga about Patrick Roberts or Rogic, but don't see the overwhelmingly better footballer than McGinn is. anyway that is all in the past, maybe someone even better will be brought in before the end of the month.

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