Celtic Banter Archive September 23 2011

 

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23 Sep 2011 23:46:39
we are p*sh so are the rangers,it is no longer a working mans sport,it is now a business and we are just customers.

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It's always been a business, unfortunately with players and agents being greedy, prices for players have skyrocketed meaning clubs struggle to make any kind of profit.

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23 Sep 2011 22:29:18
Think one of the problems we have is that our midfield players don't benefit from a straight forward 4-4-2. Think we'd be better to play with a diamond shaped midfield. I know I've put Big Dan in central defence, but I think him and Mulgrew are the best central defensive pairing we have. McCourt behind the strikers would work a treat.

---------------- Forster-----------------

Cha --- Majstorovic --- Mulgrew --- Izaguirre

----------------- Kayal ------------------

----- Ki ----------------------- Ledley ------

----------------- McCourt -----------------

---------- Hooper ------------- Stokes ------- {Ed007's Note - I know what you mean mate, but I would play Brown where you have Kayal, that type of position is where I think he would shine out. I don't mean drop Kayal, just I think Brown would be good at that job.}

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I think Brown has got to be one of the sacrifices Lennon has to make. He gives possession away far to often, simple 10 yard passes get passed to opponents or are hit out of play. He's technically too poor to play in a Celtic team. I appreciate he'd got bundles of energy and can run all day and gets in opponents faces, but continually losing the ball resulting in Celtic not having possession, mean these qualities in this player are of little use. {Ed007's Note - Even for those reasons you give I think he could do that job, just breaking up opposition play and protecting the defence. Every team needs player like that, I've said it for months.}

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I agree with Ed, I think brown is a better player than given credit for, I thought he was outstanding for Scotland in the last game when he was played in center mid. I think a straight forward 4-4-2 would work with brown center mid with kayal, Forrest right (we can't leave him out he's the one guy who has genuine pace and ability coming from midfield. And ledfley left mid, commonsif he gets his act together. It's about playing to your strenghts and playing people in possitions they play best in.

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You're joking Ed. So when Brown breaks up play, with a record of misplaced passes like his, we'd immediately be under pressure again. A holding midfield player must be one of the most accurate passers in the team which Brown in not.

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Brown offers an edge and fight to the team which I think we otherwise lack if Kayal's not in the mood which I think has been the case much of this season.

However, Ki, Ledley, and Forrest IMO have been our outstanding performers this season OF game aside and shouldn't be dropped. Kayal hasn't hit the heights of last season yet but is a better player than Brown pretty much all round which is why I'd be inclined to play Kayal and IMO he's a more suitable captain.

I'd play:

Forster

Matthews/Wilson Wilson Mulgrew Izaguirre

Forrest/Brown Ki Kayal Ledley

Stokes Hooper

I'd only play Brown in more difficult games where we'd need the extra bite in midfield and similar with Wilson/Matthews (Matthews for me has a good long throw so additional threat, is quicker and better on the ball going forward but not as strong or experienced and Wilson was like a new player for us last season so would want to show some faith).

I think Brown is wasted in the middle though because his range of passing isn't great while Ki can pick a pass and Kayal rarely squanders possession. Out on the right I think he plays his best football where he can use his pace and bomb forward, cut inside and where his poor passing isn't as much of an issue as he's restricted to crossing and shorter passes.

Commons complicates matters though if he's in the mood. We could play attacking 4-2-3-1.

Forster

Backline as above

Kayal Ki

Forrest Ledley Commons

Bangura/Hooper/Samaras

Hooper is our best striker but gash as lone striker but out best this season; and Bangura looks useful holding the ball up and bringing others into play. Then there's Sammy who should in theory be made for lone striker but we know his issues (but IMO these could be lessened by games against a weaker defence rather than always playing the big games).

From midfield we'd have Kayal as an out and out DM and Ki winning headers (he'd need to improve on this but his height would make up for Kayal's smaller frame) playing deep killer passes and getting forward. Ledley to get forward into the box from the middle (McCourt/Stokes/Sammy off the bench) and Commons/Forrest out wide with both doing a lot of support work. The full backs push forward and the back two would basically be picking up clearances from the opposition defence.

Right gonna shut up too much typing...

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23 Sep 2011 21:19:19
Its not often that I have a look at these sites but when I do its crazy some of the stuff you guys put up here, please dont belive 99% of this as its all just speculation. We;ve got to concentrate on the league this season, thats the main aim for all at the club, (belive me). Hopefully if I get a game well do the biz up at Inverness as they're a new young team too.

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Whit who's playing up at inverness......Stevie

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Do you play for Celtic ladies team ya fandan. Away and bile yer heid.

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23 Sep 2011 21:09:16
More depressing news for the Forces of Darkness

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15041278

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I'll be glad when November comes and this is settled or whatever...its a major embarrassment for rangers (being all things british & HM etc) but they honestly don't think there's a case to answer..actually convinced ! David Murray's shipped out & why would CW buy them (for £1) when this might be a 'real' threat...

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All craig whyte has done is said to the Taxman if you pursue this case and we lose we will go into Administration. if Rangers go into Administration the Taxman basically gets nothing {Ed007's Note - No it doesn't.}

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The reason CW bought them for £1 is that there is absolutely no threat to him whatsoever. Whyte has an 85.3% shareholding in Rangers for an investment of £1 and has a first ranking security over their assets in the sum of circa £23m (the amount of debt his company has taken on from the LBG loan). This means that if Rangers go into administration, Whyte gets his £23m before HMRC get their tax payment. Clever, clever stuff. {Ed007's Note - There has been no announcement yet who controls the floating charge of Rangers assets, until either Craig Whyte or Lloyds make one, no one knows who will determine Rangers future if they go into administration.}

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Don't agree Ed. The report on the above link states "Lord Hodge said The Rangers FC Group Limited had taken over Rangers' £18m indebtedness to the Lloyds Banking Group, "and obtained an assignation of the bank's securities over Rangers' assets".

This being the case, The Rangers FC Group Limited (TRFCGL) will have first ranking security over circa £18m of Ranger's assets as the security has been assigned to TRFCGL.

Although the report does not state it, it is reasonable to assume that LBG will have a separate first ranking security over TRFCGL for the circa £18m debt TRFCGL have with LBG. However, there is no risk to TRFCGL in this as they have the security over Rangers. {Ed007's Note - Why do the bank have securities with Rangers assets regarding the debt?}

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The bank don't have any securities with Rangers FC regarding the debt. The bank have securities with The Rangers FC Group Limited, which is not Rangers FC.

Whyte set up a company called Wavetower Limited which acquired 85.3% of Rangers FC in the takeover, and then in May 2011 Wavetower Limited changed their name to The Rangers FC Group Limited.

The Rangers FC Group Limited (Whyte) has taken on the £18m debt from Rangers that is owed to Lloyds Banking Group. As a result Lloyds Banking Group have assigned their securities in relation to the Rangers FC £18m debt to The Rangers FC Group Limited, so now The Rangers FC Group Limited have a security for £18m over Rangers FC's assets.

As The Rangers FC Group Limited (Whyte) has a debt of £18m to Lloyds Banking Group it is certain that Lloyds Banking Group will have a security for £18m over The Rangers FC Group Limited (this being Whyte and not Rangers FC). {Ed007's Note - So what are the assets of TRFCG? Read the article, it is Rangers assets that are being used not TRFCG's. There still needs to be assets listed to gain the security.

Lord Hodge said The Rangers FC Group Limited had taken over Rangers' £18m indebtedness to the Lloyds Banking Group, "and obtained an assignation of the bank's securities over Rangers' assets".

It is a very smart set up, Whyte personally will lose very little, but the transferred debt still has to be paid one way or another, that along with the £10 million pound 'black hole' that Craig Whyte has acknowledged means that if Rangers do win the big tax case then Whyte needs to find £28 million to pay off the transferred debt and 'plug' the £10 million black hole.}

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It is Rangers assets that are being used in the £18m security which TRFCG have over Rangers. This is the security that LBG have transferred to TRFCG, when TRFCG took over the £18m debt.

What I am then assuming is that because TRFCG now have a debt to LBG to the tune of £18m, LBG will have a security of £18m over TRFCG. This is seperate to the security TRFCG have over Rangers.

You're correct in that the transferred debt has to be paid one way or another to LBG, but there are at least two ways in which TRFCG can do this. If Rangers lose the HMRC case then TRFCG call in their security of £18m over Rangers and pay it to LBG. Whyte loses nothing. If Rangers win their HMRC case, TRFCG charges Rangers some sort of arrangement fee, paid over a period of time, that sees Rangers pay TRFCG a sum of £18m plus the interest that would be due to LBG, that in effect means that Rangers pay of the £18m debt. Again TRFCG lose nothing and don't have to pay anything.

Whatever way it is done, TRFCG will not be at risk and will not be paying the £18m themselves to LBG, you can be sure of that.

With regards to the £10m black hole, this relates to Rangers and not TRFCG. If Rangers go into administration TRFCG will not have to pay it. If they win the HMRC case, the £10m can be wiped out through Rangers trading their way out of the loss. Again, whatever way it is done, there is no risk to TRFCG.

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Ref: The reason CW bought them for £1 is that there is absolutely no threat to him whatsoever. - this is my point & response to the argument that some fans believe CW wouldn't have taken on rangers if he thought he would loss, it doesn't look like he himself has anything to loss. Anyway..roll on November and all the financial/tax experts can have a rest :)

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23 Sep 2011 20:26:29
What's everyone's thoughts on standing again...

sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/271667-celtic-studying-feasibility-of-standing-area-at-celtic-park/

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Would be a tremendous idea. Dortmund's standing area is known as "The Wall of Noise" because of the atmosphere is generates. Just imagine what our supporters "the best supporters in the world" could do.

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I have been saying this for years. Redevelop the old stand, put a large deep standing area at ground level then two seating tie.rs above. As long as the ratios are worked out for safe exit/entry and minimum space per standing fan its perfectly feasible and safe. PS knock it down and pay the fine. All this listed building stuff is ridiculous. Its not the City chambers.

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It's not simply a case of knock it down and pay the fine. Celtic may have to rebuild it, which would then serve no purpose at all.

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Who will make them rebuild it? The Council ? Its a listed building why...because of the fantastic architecture?? or because some pratt in the cooncil 20 years ago saw a way to stick a spanner in the works with CP redevelopment. Celtic can take steps to argue the case; for goodness sake its only been up since 1969 or so.

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Arguing the case to have the listing removed is different from what the original point was - knock it down and pay the fine.

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So that's two good points, time for you to make one good point. {Ed007's Note - ?}

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On reflection Ed the poster is right. They are different points.

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23 Sep 2011 20:09:01
Why take him back. He didnt want to play for us. He admitted in various interviews after he left he found it very hard to get motivated and thats why he piled on the pounds and made mistakes. Look at him now......loving his football again. If pulling the hoops on isnt motivation enough its just as well hes away.

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23 Sep 2011 19:40:42
If he didnt "Hate the ****" as the song went. He would have been hounded out of Paradise way before he left. Totally uninterested. And as for the pope top. An absolute disgrace looking back.

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23 Sep 2011 19:27:20
I see i have started the goalie debate. Loads of names still no a good one in sight.

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23 Sep 2011 19:25:33
Knew i would get Boruc as an example. 1 good season then clanger after clanger. Good keeper when he wanted to be.......but he didnt want to be one at Paradise. So no.....he didn't fill me full of trust either. I grew up with Pat Bonnar and he was worse than average. Got gradually worse keepers since. Thought we had a superstar with Boruc but he lost interst pretty quick. Fans loved him because he hated Rangers. Im afraid he didn't pull the wool over my eyes. You normally talk alot of sense Ed and i agree with 99% of what you say. But i have to disagree with that 1 {Ed007's Note - The same Artur Boruc that was in goal for 3 league titles, won 3 cups, played in a world cup and a European Championship and is now first choice GK for a Serie A team.}

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You remember the squigler. The othe game at easter road. handing it to miller on a plate at parkhead. i could go on....he was a good keeper that didnt want to play for us. ended up at least 2 stone overweight and cost us a title. google that

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Arthur Boruc...Hallowed be his name. If he had been in goals in the final against we would have won . Sure he made a few howlers but the guy is class, some people dont like people who know how good they are. I would take him back in a second.

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23 Sep 2011 19:08:47
Going away for September weekend so wont be on for a few days. I know there will be so many of you disappointed by this news but try and get over it.LOL
Timalloy ( as with ALL my posts tongue firmly in my cheek) {Ed007's Note - Have a nice time Tim.}

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Have a safe journey honey hurry back I will miss you lots xx Germinator xx

Only kidding Tim lol.
FF81

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23 Sep 2011 18:43:08
Ed007, Germinator, did you see the written judgement from Lord Hodge on why he froze £400k in Martin Bain case?
Must be quite scary reading for all Rangers fans when in court it is admitted that if HMRC win Mr Whyte has structured things to protect HIM, not Rangers.
I think the old board knew these things and tried to warn people but were not listened to. Timalloy
To all the people having a go at myself and Germinator all our posts our tongues are firmly in our cheeks for a reaction you can agree or not LOL

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23 Sep 2011 18:15:03
I think its fairly obvious what the problems are at the back. Its the goalie im afraid. Rangers can go out and buy 2 centre halfs and they look solid. Even Weir looked solid because they got a good keeper. Forster is just no the man.Good shot stopper, apart from that gives defence no confidence at all.If we signed a fit Gordon our two centre halfs would look so much better, whoever the pairing is. I really cant remember the last good keeper we had im 36 and can hardly think of 1 , yet across the city they make sure that area is covered and they instantly become hard to beat. Cant see it happening but pull out the stops for Gordon and we become better than them instantly. {Ed007's Note - You're 36 and can't remember the last 'good' GK we had?? Type Artur Boruc into Google/Youtube mate, you might get a surprise.}

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Agree with the comments about the 'current' goalie situation but c'mon i'm 39 & remember Packie Bonner...Ahh, the guid auld days of the jungle & a few quid to get in at the turnstiles ! {Ed007's Note - Packie is a legend!}

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Ed you always tell people YouTube always makes football players better than they really are lol. If he's 36 he must remember John Thomson, Joe kennaway, John Bonnar, Packie Bonner, Gordon Marshall, Jonathan Gould, Rab Douglas, Arthur Boruc. Can't think of any more lol.
FF81 {Ed007's Note - When it comes to the Holy Goalie the camera never lies ;-) Allen McKnight.......Ian Andrews *groan*

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Marcus Hedman, McKnight, Kerr, Broto,

Another one (Dmitri Kharine)
FF81

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When I was a wee boy I remember a guy called Bent Martin? Honestly he was a Scandinavian and very agile. Was lucky enough to see Ronnie Simpsons last games and then I seem to recall Evan Williams, Denis Conaghan, Ally Hunter and Marshall senior I think? It was along time ago.... Ally Hunter will always be one of my favourites and I do remember a guy called Muggleton that was mince in more recent years? But in todays game I find it hard to identify a Keeper that will catch instead of punch a cross-ball and that is what we need now..

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23 Sep 2011 17:49:07
Timalloy you must be laughing your head off at germinator. He is so far up your bum today that when you start singing his voice comes. Germinator, timalloys a big bhoy he can handle himself. I started reading some of the posts but had to stop. I was embarrassed for germinator lmao.
Germinalloy {Ed007's Note - Are you what BMWs are made of now?}

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Ed, has timalloy and germinator amalgamated and came up with germinalloy? Lmao. I hope their love lasts and have a happy life together lmao.
FF81 {Ed007's Note - That love carrymanonsense does strange things.}

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Quite a reaction today, please form an orderly queue and you can take turns at kicking me. LOL Timalloy
Anymore of this and I will get my old joke book out ha ha

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Invisible tim should have put on his list that your wife must be funny as well.

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23 Sep 2011 17:41:07
one parting shot Timalloy

The say opposites attract

your wife must be Very Pretty, Very Smart, and Very Intellectual


The Invisible Tim

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23 Sep 2011 17:29:34
Big Dan and loovens at the back on Saturday then? Woooo now that's scarey! Please may Forrest start, and I hope bangera is given a game from the start to. The best form of defence is attack as they say, and the only way to be sure that those 2 at the back don't blow it for us is to dominate the midfield, keep the ball in Inverness's third of the park and pray that on the occasions they get into our box that there striker has an aff day

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23 Sep 2011 17:27:36
Germinator, sorry I never said thanks for your post above, but it's water off a duck's back, don't know what I did to trigger this but hey every one get's an opinion on here LOL Timalloy

you dont know what you do to trigger these comments how about

refering to young kids as Evil because they play for Rangers

stating that domestic violence increases when rangers lose

believing anything graham speirs writes

constantly dredging up past troubles between the two clubs

nearly everything you write has one purpose to inflame the moronic elements of our own club and also the moronic element of rangers fans

then once you have got them baying for each others blood you slink away to think up some more vile dribble

you are an embarrassment to our great club

The Invisible Tim

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23 Sep 2011 16:41:31
Folks....a question for you........as follows........I know Lenny isn's in the job too long but are we now seeing his real management style? One of indecision and mistakes? There's no faulting his desire and commitment to the Bhoys but am I the only one who's thinking that maybe he isn't the man we need to steer us forward? Lack of experience is his biggest issue as far as I'm concerned. Can we tolerate the poor decision making? He's facing a tricky time at the moment. I hope he comes through and I'll cheer the loudest if he does....but part of me wonders...........

ChrisBhoy

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Chris your right, he has made a few f*ck ups recently, but he has brought us the scottish cup, got us to the CIS cup final and only lost the league by a point. Not bad for a rookie. We were beaten by them in the first league game last season and went on to nearly do the treble. I for one still have faith. He has done what he promised.....brought the thunder back!

He has been let down by player performances and injuries though. LAst sunday we lost cause he tinkered too much with the team, something fat sally can't do, but i have faith that he will come out stronger this season with a winning league medal around his neck.

His backroom staff are rookies too, lets give Lenny till the end of the season then judge him, no point in getting on his back when Bangura, Wilson and Matthews are still finding there feet and some players are not up to pace.

Lenny brought us the two nil win at ibrox and the three nil at home. Two of the best wins of many a year.

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23 Sep 2011 15:57:07
Message to Timalloy

Get a Life Get a Job you are on here seven days a week spouting the same old drivel making a fool of yourself and our great club please in future put this disclaimer in front of ant post you make

ALL STATEMENTS AND POSTS SUBMITTED BY ME ARE IN NO WAY A REFLECTION OR AN INDICATION OF THE THOUGHTS OF REAL CELTIC SUPPORTERS OR OUR CLUB
THE FOLLOWING POST IS MORE THAN LIKELY TO CONTAIN TOTAL DRIVEL REFERENCE TO RELIGIOUS MATERIAL AND WILL BE REEKING OF PARANOIA STATEMENTS. THERE WILL BE NO REFERENCE TO SENSIBLE DEBATES OR FOOTBALL IN GENERAL.
DUE TO ITS CONTENT IT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE

i used to work in the morgue and found decomposing bodies less offensive than you

ps if you do have a job stop wasting your employers time and resources and do what you get paid for


The invisible Tim

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Invisible tim if he didnt post then what would u write about .. as far as i can see ur as obsessed with him as he is with this site .... im on this sire at least 5 days a week (albeit from work) does this make me any sadder .... plus this site only covers 2/3 days at time meaning that u must be on here that often to know he is on here that often lol ! duh (either that or u deliberately troll the sites fro his comments ... which is sadder?

Germinator

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Invisible Tim that's me got 2 stalkers on here now LOL Timalloy
Ps keep reading I have lots more drivel to say

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Germinator, sorry I never said thanks for your post above, but it's water off a duck's back, don't know what I did to trigger this but hey every one get's an opinion on here LOL Timalloy

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This is the first ive actually posted but i have been reading post for quite a while. sometimes the posts on here are quite informative like yours and the eds regarding the cup finances. or the links the ed leaves regarding the Rangers tax case plus many more good debatable subjects. but you show me one post from Timalloy that just refers to football. normally i just shake my head in disgust regarding his posts but after reading his post on the under 19 cup final was to much he read a result seen our boys got a player sent of and rangers were awarded a penalty and all of a sudden it was a conspiracy between the ref and the sfa but what go me was his remark about good overcoming evil these are kids for god sake just because someone pulls on a rangers top does not mean they are Evil. its People like Timalloy that installs this hatred between both teams at a very early age these are kids i remember young Greg Wylde when he was one of our young players he was a great kid then and he is still a great kid but by Timalloys definition he is evil what about young Dylan McGeouch is he still evil.


The Invisible Tim

ps as i am just a regular reader and not a poster normal service will be resumed this will probably be my last post {Ed007's Note - You along with everyone else are welcome to post when ever you want.}

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Aye that`s some troll you have there right enough germinator.lol

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23 Sep 2011 13:37:22
Afternoon ED007, Germinator regarding your league cup financial breakdown, this smacks of another bear dissing a cup because their team got knocked out. I was going to question your figures but i see Evening Times beat me to it, past 3 years Rangers made £1m PROFIT, it would have been the same this year maybe more with live tv money and bigger gate money etc.. Yes the SFA deal with the sponsorship at Hampden but all 4 semi final teams share everything, same with final the two teams share everything. So not as lucrative as other cups but still a profit, plus it is first leg of treble. Celtic/Rangers would not enter a tournament that meant a loss in revenue. hail hail Timalloy

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Actually tim it was taken from my post on the gers page in which i said i would have still preferred to stay in the comp and win it(go check) ...... so clamp it!

ps ill believe an accountant that puts figures infront of my eyes before i believe what i paper writes .... the fact u take ur facts from the latter tells me al i need to know.

Germinator

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Germinator, I just posted on your site PRAISING you for defending our right to banter on each other sites. LOL
By the way I hope your "Accountant" has had a good look at Rangers books otherwise the big bad HMRC will be shaking your club to its dodgy foundations hail hail Timalloy
PS see some bears on gers site tried manfully and painfully to drag Celtic into the tax mire you are in, our old board were not the best but Mr Quinn at the time an ex banker and an HONEST man, would not even look at these dodgy tax loopholes. another victory for Celtic hail hail

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Lol its kl Tim ... i know i can be a bit of a wind up merchant (were all guilty of it on here!) ... aye that randolph guy was a complete goon ! besides could hardly stand by the guy wen half the time im on this page .... it aint me thats the hypocritcal one ;o). But i was being genunine regarding the league cup stuff my mate showed me the fugures, he is able to get access to stuff like that tho i think we all can actually he just knows where to get the info from.... he doesnt know the specifics about our case but told me that there over 180 companies in Britain that have exploited the loophole including 3 other prem clubs (Fulham, Man City and i cant remember the third). Were actuallly being used as a test case and he thinks that HMRC wont win or it will be settled outta court for FAR less than is being billed ... This was all his opinion right enuf and just now is worth about as mush as Salim Kerkar cos this sorta thing has been done before!

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*hasnt been done before it should've read.
sorry

Germinator

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Germinator, there was a guy on Liverpool site complaining about all the Mancs (manchester) not what some of you call us, guys posting on lfc site, Ed002 said well it was a banter site and if no banter.........ha ha
PS sorry Germinator a wee wind up coming see our U19's put your lot out of Glasgow Cup, so that is out of CL, out of Europa, out of League cup, out of Glasgow Cup, oh dear Rangers just do not DO cup competitions LOL Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Don't cross Ed002!!! She can be ferocious with her replies if needed. Although she is very knowledgeable and VERY attractive.}

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Lol Tim well im guessing half of our u19's are now in the senior squad so u beat the reserves of the u19's ! besides its hard to get urself up for a final wen ur only win bonus/incentive from Whyte is to share a multipack of space raiders (no even pickled onion ones) lol

Germinator

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23 Sep 2011 13:04:57
I c the laptop loyal r giving fat Sally and his superstars a hard time ,the records phone in page had more so called calls slagging off the tic than them ,if it woz us beaten by falkirk keevins would hav a full page dedicated to the demise of Celtic

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If you dont like what they say dont buy or read the rag

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23 Sep 2011 12:40:36
Kinda off topic a little.

Anyone read the story about the young lad at Dundee utd? He's played 2 & a half games & want £1600 a week ? Just shows you the greed of some of there's players!

Am sure the young lad Wylde at rangers & watt at Celtic are only gettin 600 odds a week ?

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny. {Ed007's Note - Kyle Hutton asked for time to pay up a fine for speeding. He told the court that Rangers pay him £25,000 a week. I'm not slagging Rangers by bring that up, that is the area of pay young players should be getting and made to work their way up on and off the field instead of worrying about their boot colour, hair style, tattoos and bling cars.}

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Ed007, I guess you meant £25k a YEAR, otherwise Hutton would be one of the top paid players at Ibrox ha ha.
I have no problem with a young talented player asking for £1400 a week is that so terrible? Remember under Jim McLean he would sign young players on 10 year contracts for peanuts, so fair is fair. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Sorry my mistake ;-)

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Dont mind paying younger players good
money to keep them but if that wee tadger at dundee was turning his nose up at £700 a week then hes a wee greedy knob

viewparkbhoy {Ed007's Note - Afternoon VPB. I think maybe his agent knows of a team willing to pay him over 1k and they are brass necking it with Utd.}

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23 Sep 2011 12:07:04
Hi ed, can you believe we having to play Mulgrew in midfield against Rangers when we got a Mexican international player on loan at a La Liga club. Our midfield is poor at the minute. Broon injured. Ki a lightweight who is scared to put his foot in and Commons going further down the pecking order ever chip he eats. Kayal is only Midfielder we got just now. Can Lenny recall Jaurez or have we lost him for the year?
PS- I would keep Kayal, Hooper and Izzy, i wouldn't bat an eyelid at anyone else going, they wouldn't be missed. {Ed007's Note - I would be shocked if Juarez will be back at CFC.}

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Talking s,,,,e Joe Ledley shouldn't b out of team and we,ve still 2 c wot matt hews,Wilson ,wanyamma ,bangura and el khadiri can bring 2 team once they settle throw in a fit commons ,forest stokes and ki a fit rogne and maybe a couple of shrewd signings and I think we should b ok

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23 Sep 2011 11:53:18
ed i did a post about the league cup and financial things but hasnt been posted?

Cheers
Germinator {Ed007's Note - I didn't get it Germ?? Sorry mate.}

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No worries,

was asking if you could confirm for me as last year my mate (works as an accountant for Whyte and Mckay - no jokes please lol) and was showing me how the old firm teams run at a loss financially if they win the league cup. Basically paying bonus' ie goals, appearances and win bonus' are greater for the OF than the prize money and shares of gate reciepts. He was telling me who is entitled to what and said the prize money for winning the league cup is only 70k or something !

Germinator {Ed007's Note - The ticket money etc is hard to estimate but the official figure for last season's League Cup, which are paid regarding the round of elimination are:

First round losers: £10,500
Second round losers: £14,750
Third Round losers: £24,500
Quarter-Final losers: £38,000
Semi-Final losers: £47,500
Runner up: £82,000
Winner: £110,000

So the chances are that it is not financially successful for the winners. Maybe a CFC v Rangers final would boost the advertising/TV revenue but it still wouldn't have a great effect in it.}

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Yup it pretty much mirrored what i was told chief... he was saying that hapden and SFA hold the rights to advertising for the semi's onwards same goes for programmes and food. Its just difficult to come to terms that a team loses out financially for being succesful lol.

Ah well cheers

Germinator {Ed007's Note - It's just a prestige thing really. I think it should be scrapped personally.}

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23 Sep 2011 11:25:15
Tim you really are a paranoid android you read a result and you automatically spout rubbish about conspiracies I was at the Cup Final my nephew plays for Celtic youth team it was a stone wall penalty and a sending off and yes we won by playing good football watching these kids is better than watching the first team at least these boys bust a gut and as for you comment about good triumph over evil get a grip mate these are kids you are talking about if you want to see evil then look at yourself in the mirror i have been reading these pages for a while and most of your posts just want to talk about violence, sectarianism, religion, and referees do you ever want to talk about football

one more point everytime Celtic play a game you post your silly comments either during the game or immediately after the games do you ever go to a game mate because if you do you must be easily spotted the only guy there with his laptop

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BOOM !! take it Tim ..... lol ... You know what now that you mention it a lot of his posts are about all the irrelevant stuff !

:oP Tim even starting to get on ur own fans bad side !

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You are an unnamed poster so he will try and look down on you as well. paddy

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Your right Paddy i am an un-named poster but i could put any-name on here it makes no difference. i could come on and put 5 different posts on under 5 different names i may be wrong and no doubt ed will correct me if i am but un less the poster has a static ip all they need to do is log off their internet connection and sign back on then they get a new ip even if that is not the case the eds have no chance of remembering everyones ip apart from that just because i dont put a name dont mean i have nowt to say im pretty sure that if you look at Timalloys Birth Certificate it dont say Timalloy. just for tims benefit i will call myself

The Invisible Tim

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Invisible tim because you have put a name to your post all the big i am`s are hiding behind the disagree button. lol

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