Celtic Banter Archive May 23 2019

23 May 2019 21:48:51
I have just remembered we have a cup final on Saturday . Not just a Cup Final but the deciding match of our unprecedented treble treble .
Celtic fans aren't really interested, they post about who they want and who they don't want as Manager . They post weird foreign names as they must be best, even if they never put a foot in Scotland, the same way players for next season. Our fans are sure some player in Hollandd Germany Italy etc will certainly be better than those who are here, playing ok, or trying to adopt to the unique Scottish playing rules and atmosphere.

This all fine and dandy, but really we should be spending this week getting into the mood for S C F, we expect and hope N Lennon and players are concentrating fully on preparation for final .
The MSSM want to muddle up the minds of players and Celtic fans . They report every day about some one coming in, a couple days later Celtic are missing out on player that only MSSM had linked us and our fans are diappointed . The same with Manager, we don't need this idle nonsense now, some may argue that Celtic club is too professional to allow MSSM to derail us .
Fair play it may not do us harm but certainly the constant speculation cannot help us or do us any good.

23 May 2019 22:47:07
Sorry Chris forgot we are not allowed to talk about the future of our club and who will lead us next season!

It's a forum, each and every person can post what they like. If it upsets you that much don't read it.

24 May 2019 04:24:35
Remember everyone, this could be the very first time we win the cup three times in a row then the treble treble.

24 May 2019 04:54:44
Donny1972 I agree and I don't think anyone has forgotten. Fans are still allowed to be excited about who next manager is going to be and I think the uncertainty is a serious topic for discussion on a forum of all places. It's not right though when people try to dictate what topics get posted, everyone is equally allowed to talk about any celtic related topic mate.

24 May 2019 05:18:17
Yes I agree, but as each manager we have ever had said is that we deal with the next game, that mean's we deal with the final, then at 16.46pm on Saturday we can start talking about the new manager and the direction of the club.

24 May 2019 14:37:28
Phillim, I am sorry, I thought I too have a right to post what I liked, but seeming you think not .
I am sorry if stressing the need to prepare as best as possible for treble treble is not a good idea for u.

23 May 2019 21:22:46
Moyes is by no means my first choice as our new manager. However, I’m surprised that his potential appointment is being greeted with so much negativity.

I’m in no doubt that the main reason for this is that too many of our supporters are convinced that we actually have a chance of getting Mourinho, Benitez or AVB. Can you really picture any of these guys rocking up to Dingwall on a Wednesday night with a team full of £2-3m summer signings? No chance.

Do I think Moyes would blow us away with free flowing football like in Rodgers’ first season (his final 18-20 months were poor) ? No

Do I think he’d make us more competitive in Europe? Maybe

Do I think he’d lead us to 9 and 10 in a row? Definitely.

Don’t forget this is a man who was handpicked by one of the greatest manager’s ever to manage the biggest team in the world not so long ago.

To think he’d fail in Scotland is laughable.

23 May 2019 21:47:07
He was on a hiding to nothing following fergie and in relative terms didn't spend much compared to what van gal and Jose spent he then made 2 bad choices going to Spain and serial failures West ham.

23 May 2019 22:10:33
I have multiple reasons I don't want him near our great club, here's a few
1) He hasn't done a thing in the game- Managed Preston -mediocrity
Managed Everton -mediocrity
Every job he's had since has been disasterous.
2) He is one of the most boring people to listen to-zero charisma, good managers need to be good talkers.
3) The main reason is he has I believe had the chance to come to us when he was in demand and ruled himself out pretty quickly.

Get him tae f***. Just no no no
ABM- Anyone but Moyes.

23 May 2019 22:28:45
It has nothing to do with the likes of AVB or jose.
It's to do with the fact he is chronic. He's never achieved a thing and it a plod along manager at best.

I have been quite vocal about not thinking Lennon is the man for job but I'd take him over moyes any day.

23 May 2019 22:51:05
Not my first choice, was good at Everton but that's it.

In fairness though Man Utd was a sinking ship before he took over. If they were still winning titles, Fergie would still be in charge.

23 May 2019 22:58:47
Rodgers has never won anything outside of Scotland either though kev.

23 May 2019 23:11:42
Exactly Kev, I'm not deluded enough to think we are going to get some of the names being mentioned but Davie Moyes! come on we can do better than that. This is a guy who's desperate for a job because nobody wants him. I smelt a rat weeks ago when he turned up at the Kilmarnock game but tried to convince myself he was going to get the Scotland job or he was up to pay his respects to Cesar. As I said earlier once you have turned down the chance to come to our great club you don't get another.

24 May 2019 06:00:54
The mangers position will be sorted next week one way or the other thank god, then the speculation stops and whoever gets the gig wether it’s Lennon, moyes, Benitez, mourhino, the Pope, we need to get 100% behind them. Next season is massive, everything that’s been won and done for the past 8 years has led us to the brink of 9 in a row. I grew up with the stories of the lions doing it and never in my wildest dreams thought I’d see a Celtic team achieve it and possibly better it. Whoever the next manager is we must give him our full support, pull together as one and build for next season. We’ve a huge job on our hands in terms of players leaving and quality being brought in. The manager ( whoever he may be) needs to fully focus on that, not wasting his time trying to unite the fans who are divided on who got the job and are happy/ unhappy with it. As long as a manager is announced pretty much straight away after Saturdays final and gets to work immediately on signings in key areas with quality I’ll be happy, after all these champions league qualifiers don’t half come around quick style.

25 May 2019 12:14:07
He never won anything in England but then again neither did Brendan Rodgers.

He's not an exciting name, probably a better manager than he gets credit for but he will be more defensive compared to Rodgers which may be a good thing.

23 May 2019 13:33:01
Ed what is the goal scoring stats for all competitions this season?

{Ed007's Note - What do you mean mate?}

23 May 2019 14:52:37
How many did each player score this season for us in total of every competitions?
Your always got the Info handy. 😂.

{Ed007's Note - www.skysports.com/celtic-stats

23 May 2019 15:46:28
Cheers ed.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

23 May 2019 16:04:21
I have to say at this point Kev mate, a player we've went toe to toe over -Jamesy Forrest. Second top scorer. I still don't think he's an intelligent player and far from the finished article but I think BR really coached him to channel his runs and it has paid this season. McGregor was our player of the season for me; but I see Forrest has just been named SP player of the year. Well done him. Here's hoping such form continues. I really like the look of Shved mind but looking at him on youtube he can play quite centrally too so we might even see them in the same side.

23 May 2019 16:24:29
Jim I thought it could have went either way with the POTY awards but think Forrest pipped it because on some real important goals.

What I found quite amusing is the 17 is Forrests best return for goals.
Sinclair scored the same in his worse season and people want he drummed out.
Baffling.

23 May 2019 16:42:28
It's undoubtedly Forrest's best season.

I'm not saying I want him drummed out, but sometimes you've got to shift the pack in order to make new signings and I'd probably keep Forrest over Sinclair right now due to a few factors. I only say this because a player I'd like us to go for is Robert Skov. Have a look. Knows his way to goal, pace, scores some crackers and can hit a mean dead ball. He plays in from the right though and shoots with his left which is how I like my wide men.

Could Forrest do even better off our left shooting on his right? Was he getting played on the right because of Sinclair's impact on the left?

And how many pens has Sinclair scored though? I know they need putting away but what if it was Forrest on pens and not Sinclair? Like I say, don't want him pushed out necessarily - he's way down the list. But he has taken a real dip which you've pretty much said.

23 May 2019 16:50:45
JimTim I agree regarding Shved. I would hate to see him stuck behind Forrest waiting on an opportunity. I think he can play the number 10 role. Nobody has that nailed down for me even though I think Christie has had a great season. Rogic far too inconsistent. Shved could very well find himself in that role.

23 May 2019 17:22:01
Jim it's only 4 pens sinky has scored this season but end of the day they have to be scored.

23 May 2019 17:36:23
For me Ice Man Rogic is done. Certainly in the firat XI anyway. Said at the end of last season unless we got a proper season out of him he can go. And we haven't. Granted, I'd need to see more of Shved in the hoops to see if he could play that no10 CAM role. What's his ball playing, intelligence, work-rate like? That sort of thing I haven't seen from youtube. I'd have Christie in that role over Rogic no doubt. I've got my doubts about whether he could be a real top player there though. I rate him as I think he's a good modern CM, and can play CAM when asked to, but one that has probably found his level.

23 May 2019 17:42:30
FOUR? Did the people no get that in one game? They do need scoring but i prefer to judge players returns on open play. Might just be my tapped head but there you go.

23 May 2019 18:10:19
Forrest about 10 or 11 assists as well as his goals though, Sinclair has 2 or 3 assists for me isn't nearly enough for a winger.

23 May 2019 18:35:28
Royjac Sinclair has out assisted every player for 2 of the 3 seasons he's been at the club.

Jim even if you take the 4 pens out the equation he only drops to 3rd place.

23 May 2019 19:41:42
Kev I get that you like Sinky fair enough, for a winger he should be getting more than 2 or 3 assists in a season. It's not enough, he is a one trick pony who has now been found out hence the reason he is not getting the same amount of goals or assists as his first 2 seasons. Is it a confidence thing I don't know, I'm sure he has missed 2 or 3 pens this season also.

23 May 2019 19:56:00
Kev, we might not agree on Lennon but I think we do on Sinclair. I think a lot of people judge him against his first season which was astounding. No one could keep up that level of performance year on year. In my opinion, he’s a top quality winger who we are lucky to have at the club. He takes the pens because he’s good at it. You lose him, you lose that as well.

23 May 2019 21:19:15
Forrest said himself a while back he was trying to mirror what Sinclair does to get amongst the goals more and it's certainly paid off for him this season. Sinky seems to be one of the few that tries to make runs in behind defences maybe Rogic needs to take a page out of his book as he seems to be void of any criticism when he isn't half as productive as Sinclair.

23 May 2019 22:31:45
Royjac if his one trick as you put it is putting the ball in the net regularly that will do me fine.
That guy has 60 goals and around 40 assist in the last 3 seasons.
I would be very very surprised if anyone else's stats come anywhere near that.

23 May 2019 22:37:05
I would sell Rogic personally, yea he is a good player sometimes but is inconsistent lazy and struggles to last a game. Add to that he always injured. Not what we need I'm afraid.

25 May 2019 12:15:00
Sinclair is a higher standard of player. He can play poor and still contribute with key moments. He is playing poor overall but he still has quality.

23 May 2019 08:35:18
Celtic have drawn up 3 man shortlist for Managerial position that consists of Lennon, Moyes and Micheal O Neill.
Benitez is likely to conclude extension to Newcastle contract in next couple of days and his wage demands are too high.
AVB was only touted as he was over here doing coaching badges.
Pardew is interested but the board don't consider him to be on the shortlist.
Personally I favour Lennon he has a good track record domestically and in the Champions League with a good transfer record as well, gives us best chance of success as appointing someone else is more of a gamble with Euro qualifiers coming thick and fast.

{Ed007's Note - What coaching badges was AVB over here doing and when was this? As far as I'm aware AVB has had all his coaching badges for years, if he didn't then he wouldn't have been allowed to coach in the EPL.}

23 May 2019 12:28:33
Pass me that pinch a salt Ed.

{Ed007's Note - Choosing between Moyes, O'Neill or Lennon is like choosing to get kicked on your left bollock, right bollock or both - they're all just as painful as the others.}

23 May 2019 12:47:58
Ed, who do you realistically think is going to get the job? HH.

{Ed007's Note - Neil Lennon.}

23 May 2019 12:50:28
This thread is pork pies. Michael oneil is nowhere near running for job.

23 May 2019 13:49:41
I'm confident Neil Lennon won't even get a look in and I reckon new manager has been identified a while back.

Peter Lawwell is a money man and as much as we have our moan about him, he is good at what he does. He is not going to take any chances on potentially messing up the huge revenue potential from getting 10iar when we are so close. Every man and their dog will want to buy the celtic top, dvds, tickets for games, special memorabilia and be a part of 10iar. That's not going to happen with Lennon in charge.

Added to that he has ruffled a few feathers since stepping in as interm.

23 May 2019 13:53:44
I don't see 10iar as being any kind of money spinner in any way. It's a pride thing with bragging rights attached and a kick in the bollox for the Sevvies, nothing more than that. HH.

23 May 2019 14:29:39
I disagree and I'm sure a lot of our fans will feel the same. It will be a money spinner setting a new record, getting one over that mob and the feeling we will all have will be epic. The club will cash in on that because a happy fan= money.

23 May 2019 15:09:38
It is a money maker. It’s exactly like the big anniversary’s for the Lisbon lions. Massive profit seasons with more sales than usual. It would be the same for us. We need to win the treble this season and we need to win the 10. We are so close and there’s no reason why we should slip up. After that the club loses the stress and we can move on.

23 May 2019 16:09:47
O'Neill? Right he's done a good job For Northern Ireland (sorry JFP for using that term) but scrap that because it's a different game to managing a club. So essentially we're looking at a Brechin amd Shamrock Rovers Manager turning 50? Doubt it. Lump on Lenny bhoys, 5/ 1.

23 May 2019 16:16:09
I think the Board is correct in making no statement about our permanent Manager before the Scottish Cup final on Saturday . I can see no possible benefit in naming manager before our very important final game . Neil Lennon and all the players need to concentrate fully on getting proper result on Sat .
Similarly there is no point on us fans blathering away pure nonsense about new manager. Some of us are building expectations in the clouds and others are more realistic but none can benefit anyone involved with Celtic, let us beat Hearts on Saturday and then rant and rave about be manager until we find out officially.

23 May 2019 17:16:21
Hi Eds when next week comes and everybody has got over their hangovers win or loose the cup do you recon that Lennon will be announced as new manager? It would not surprise me that he would be and that PL will be saying that after due diligence looking at other candidates we feel NL has done the job asked of him and now we a prepared to give the job full time and back over theses next two years.

23 May 2019 17:32:36
Philtim88 Michael Oneil has been spoken to twice by Celtic about the managers position. Would be a horrendous appointment if it were to ever happen.

23 May 2019 17:39:17
😂😂 Rich how many times do you want to ask who the Ed think will be the new manager.

23 May 2019 19:13:12
Rich T lol campsie bhoy how do you know that?

23 May 2019 21:37:22
If we get 9 or 10 I wonder if there will be a special kit released for it as most supporters will jump all over it. Huge money spinner that'll be.

23 May 2019 09:19:02
I know not the reliable source but the Sun reports Rafa bookies fav again.

23 May 2019 10:23:16
We'll have to put this to bed till after the cup final there will be no announcement till rhen.

23 May 2019 12:32:17
Think all this speculation is the best distraction the media would have dreamed of before such an important game.

23 May 2019 13:04:30
One thing, if it is Lennon, him and PL could be in line to make a right few quid through the bookies.
They could have been quietly pouring the cash on for weeks, releasing other names for favourite to push up Lennon’s price.
Easy money!

23 May 2019 00:05:16
Painting with a brush is like closing blinds when sun shines

THE BOARD.

23 May 2019 00:54:00
Explain!

23 May 2019 08:28:07
What you smoking TT, good s*** aye 😲.

23 May 2019 09:26:48
Is that a Cantona quote TT 😂😂😂😂.

23 May 2019 10:20:18
Am sitting in the dark with a roller, what next TT.

23 May 2019 12:48:42
I think it's basically supposed to mean that the board have no common sense 😂.

23 May 2019 13:11:09
So are we saying Da Vinci would have been better off with a roller and a tin of emulsion from B&Q?