Celtic Banter Archive January 23 2018

23 Jan 2018 22:10:39
I'm sorry I don't think Ajer is what we need. I hear he's only a kid but so is Tierney who has spunk and battle. I hope I'm wrong but he needs to be brave and cocky. Mcgregor is starting to hid in games when we're not on top. Griffiths is class.

23 Jan 2018 22:19:12
100% agree re Ajer. Said it on here after Sevco game, too soft, too slow in the turn and if he plays against Zenit he will get destroyed. Griff has to start from now on surely? And although Jozo can be ropey, when fit he is still better than the two who played tonight. Hurry back PR and TR.

23 Jan 2018 23:24:19
Ajer is a talented player and would like to see him play in front of a back four. Like the lòok of him when he strides forward but seems to lack positinoal sense when played at the back. P. S Lustig is struggling, needs dropped to sort himself out, I believe he has personal problems and think It's showing in his performances.

23 Jan 2018 23:54:46
I think Lustigs legs have gone. Severely lacking pace and is often caught on the turn or giving possession away cheaply. I think we should attempt to sell him in the summer before he is in the last 12 months of his deal.

23 Jan 2018 23:59:48
Ajer gave away a few balls and went and won most of them back. Criticism here of a 19 year old who only moved to CB last year is ridiculous.

Apart from Jozo, he is our best CB.

24 Jan 2018 00:16:45
I like the way Ajer drives forward with the ball, and think your being a bit unfair on him as boyata got caught out few times too.
I hate the way we pass about the back 4 ends up getting us into bother, and really slows everything down, 2nd half improved with the changes and forward quick passing, jozo and Griffiths must start on Saturday.

24 Jan 2018 06:34:40
I can only hope Compper is some player as again last night our defence was poor. We gave thistle numerous chances and against better quality opposition ( like Zenit or any European team left in they will take the chances) . It seems Brendan is just looking for a creative player this window now but surely he can see we aren’t good enough at the back.

24 Jan 2018 09:06:14
Ajer played well last night, liked watching him bring the ball out from the back with confidence in the second half, partick struggled to keep up with him when he built momentum and broke onto his stride. Bit ropey first half but he's learning every game.

I think he's not the quickest on the turn when up against a really quick forward but strong in the air and confident on the ball. He's some height so he'll never be lightning quick.

24 Jan 2018 11:58:14
Seemed to do better when Jozo came on in the centre of the 3 and ajer went to left of the 3 but I agree we need better CBS.

24 Jan 2018 12:00:03
i said it on the live chat that the QE2 turned quicker.

23 Jan 2018 22:02:50
A posted a few days ago that wee griff should be given the jersey till the end of the season and a don't see who's better than him.

24 Jan 2018 00:00:34
Dembele is younger and lots of potential to fill, but ability overall at this moment, Griffiths is better.

23 Jan 2018 21:57:45
Edourde is bang average, no better than Conor Sammon who was a free. Very few pass marks again yet BR and co say no point buying for the sake of it! Jeez, everyone can see we need new faces and they will t be for the sake of it, they will be to improve the starting 11. No more Kouassi, Edourde, Morgan, Benyu "projects". Time to spend .

24 Jan 2018 11:59:18
Spend, spend, spend, maybe you are too young to remember what happened with her, why give up on people so easy?, if Dembelle came in playing like he is now, you would be writing him of as well, even Larsson didn't play well at the start, these guys need to be given time to prove themselves one way or the other, one thing I will say Ajer might turn out to be a top class centre back, if he forgets about trying to be a top class mid fielder that has been moved back to central defence, because he will never be a top midfielder, he will just have to learn to accept that, I still think the best way for Celtic is to play Griffith and Moussa together,

23 Jan 2018 20:32:19
1st half awful lustig looks finished edoard is dire no creation. ajer could b better ntcham doing ok but Brendan needs to change this now.

23 Jan 2018 20:45:47
And people on this site think the defence is ok, I don’t have the faith in ajer that others seem to have and lustig may be over the hill slightly with this seasons performances are anything to go by. Mcgregor has been quite poor but then not many have pass marks at the minute. Need a big second half, hopefully griff or moussa come on . c'mon bhoys.

23 Jan 2018 21:38:43
Lustig been poor all season and that's the worst av seen ajer but he needs time he's only a kid, but edoard is never a Celtic player he can't run with the ball and he's a striker.

23 Jan 2018 19:17:07
The funniest song I've ever heard in half a century plus VAT was 2 wee laddies about 8 walking down the Gallowgate singing 'Oh Shansuke Nakamara went tae Rome tae see the Pope-Shansuke Nakamara went tae Rome tae see the Pope-'Oh Shansuke Nakamara went tae Rome tae see the Pope-And this is what he said. 'Oh the Rangers are sh*te. Ah nearly fell over the ludicrous thought that the man fae Japan would go to see the Pope was funny enough but the Popes supposed response nearly finished me! 😂👍☘️.

23 Jan 2018 20:09:58
So many songs and yet once again its the Provo songbook. Total embarrassment. The problem with Plastic is not restricted to the oceans it seems. Sing a Celtic song.

23 Jan 2018 21:40:29
Get a grip magic bit o banter there.

Going wi Nakamura never forget being at the san siro 2 wee Japanese tourists there every time we sang the nakamura song they jumped up when finished would sit back down bhoys noticed that and we’d start singing 1st line then change song and so on had these two boys up and down like yo yo’s 😂.

24 Jan 2018 00:06:12
Magicpole Irish rebels were sung by the founders and original support at this club before "the troubles"

most of the songs are from an older era.

God save ireland was sung at the founding of Celtic. The club used to sell them on our official records.

So I'm afriad it's you who is wrong, you don't have a right to change a songbook here since the beginning.

Nobody is forcing you to sing, but don't be arrogant to tell us what we should.

24 Jan 2018 11:26:50
Answer me this Tesla. Do you think that it puts our club in a good light? You say our founders sang them so it should be alright. Why is that a reason. We used to sing I'd rather be a darkie than a Hun. Should we still sing that about our black players? No. And why, because the world has moved on.

And the majority of fans don't sing them. Eire fans don't sing them at their games and it's their history. Why? Do you see Celtic FC as a vehicle or platform for republicanism? Why again?

Do you think singing songs makes you a republican? My view would be it doesn't. To reduce it to that is pathetic. How many who do join in get involved in the Irish political situation, other than singing them at predominantly away games by a section of the away support .

Things that were ok or accepted in the past is no excuse for today. Twenty five years before we were formed America had slavery. It was seen as ok. Is that ok now because our antecedents thought it ok?

It's 2018 and hopefully the world has moved on. Why have successive Celtic boards asked these fans to stop singing them? It us a section if our support who believe they have the right to sing songs that our enemies use to attack us.

If Irish football supporters can move on why not us?

If all those fans who want to fill an emoty holster actually turned out for Republican marches you would at least admit they had conviction, but they are like snow aff a dyke.

The majority of supporters don't sing them. We used to, but, the world has to move on. And even if you don't want to get up aff your arse and get involved. Singing at a Cektic game, a football game, isn't enough.

It damages the image of the club. It gives an imoression that we all support violence and the continuation of religious and political strife. The Provos gave up the armed struggle to seek political objectives through the democratic process. If you want to help that fight brilliant. Do it on the street. Do it by moving there and supporting the political struggle. Singing at away games as your platform to me is the wrong way in my and many others opinion.

I hate Tories and fundamental religious people if every hue, but I don't sing about this at football games. It's a football game. I get involved with organisations and vote that opposes them.

It's time to move on and make our club inclusive to all. Not just the Irish who founded us. Never forget our history, but don't look to perpetuate those age old hatreds that have caused untold suffering.

And if you don't want to stop being vocal, hit the streets.

I have Polish pals who support us, should they sing about the Cossaks attacking them back in the 19th century and before? Naw. Are they not Celtic fans because they aren't irish? We are a world club. A football club, not a political platform for a section who see us as a republican organisation. We are not.

I know people will probably always sing them. That saddens me and I do find it embarrassing that the majority of songs sung at away games have feck all to do with football.

And worse, they know it damages our image and they don't give a feck. That really saddens me. We are Glasgow Celtic Football Club, not the Boys From The Old Brigade. .

{Ed007's Note - And I really LOVE how it upsets panty-wetting fools like you. If you don't like it turn the volume down or get off your arse and go to games and try and stop them - I imagine you'd be the one to disappear like snow off a dyke then, where's your conviction to do anything about it?}

24 Jan 2018 12:38:08
First of all, I don't care one bit about this "reputation" thing. See all this wanting to be loved by people outside our club. That is pathetic.

Also we are one of the most widely supported clubs across the globe and we done so singing Irish rebels so that destroys your logic that it harms our reputation, because we got there while singing it.

Secondly. Even the british government and Prince Charles has spokent positively about the Easter Rising etc on both sides.

The republic of Ireland football team had 1916 on their international shirt also. The cliftonville fans also liked a good rebel song when they played us. So half of what you said there isn't even true.

The songs are historical, non sectarian so not sure why you mentioned religion. The club is open to all, even those who don't sing them.

As Ed007 just said, I've never once seen anyone like you open your mouth at games, as a self confessed person who takes action, where have you been?

You assume it damaged our club cos u seem to have no clue that the songs are so old they aren't offensive to modern day people or politics and they aren't sectarian.

So they are simply historical songs of an older time that have been passed on like folk music through the years of the club.

Literally not one bit different from Flower of Scotland (which lyrics have nothing to do with football) yet not one of you people seem to ever mention banning that or national anthems in general.

you just self loathing against your own club because of the anti irish propaganda machine that's been in this country from day dot and still remains to this day and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.

23 Jan 2018 11:52:05
Bit off topic for this time of year but what was your favourite chant, song etc heard at any ground. I remember as a kid Henry Smith always got a hard time with chants of "Henry, drop the ball, Henry Henry drop the ball"

Always enjoyed the "Oh Mikey Mikey, Mikey Mikey Mikey Mikey Galloway" song. Jorge Cadetes was also a cracker.

23 Jan 2018 12:29:03
Always remember as a kid "oh spot the looney" and the classic "have you seen a handsome hun? "

23 Jan 2018 12:35:35
More chance of seeing Jimmy Hoffa Dasa.

23 Jan 2018 12:51:44
Stan here is a golden oldie, I remember the jungle singing
"The Rangers end is empty, the Rangers end is empty, the Rangers end is empty with HALF AN HOUR TO GO"

23 Jan 2018 12:54:16
Davie Dodds, Elephant Man
To be fair to Davie, I was at a game and he used his arm as a trunk, he got a cheer for that.

There's only 1 Wim Jansen
Takes E's, goes up the dancin
He's got curly hair, but we don't care
Walking in a Jansen Wonderland.

23 Jan 2018 13:13:45
Haha quality lads.

23 Jan 2018 13:18:03
I don't remember the Jansen one MP, but he arrived when i started going to the Gallowgate before games so more often than not the games were a blur. Infact the only game that wasnt was when we stopped 10 i was too nervous to drink beforehand my hand had that much of a shake it was like Rod Hulls Emu on acid.

23 Jan 2018 13:21:40
Go home Ya huns, go home Ya huns. And so on haha.

23 Jan 2018 14:02:40
AG, you have me singing that now.

23 Jan 2018 12:50:46
I always loved the di Canio song! D I CANIO! 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

23 Jan 2018 13:13:37
He's bald, he's fat, he's going to get the sack Advocaat Advocaat!

HH

Chris1888🍀🍀🍀.

23 Jan 2018 14:51:19
Gazza beats his wife, he beats his wife, he beats his wife hail hail.

23 Jan 2018 14:57:42
Brilliant 😂

"And they gave us Franny Jeffers and Alec Rae, They gave us Nacho Novo, Fanfan and Big Marv tae, cos most of the football sh@t has been signed by that big t@t, and that's why we all say Big Eck must stay" 😂.

23 Jan 2018 15:36:39
Another of my favourites was when we signed ex ger Alfie Conn
"He used to be a hun, but he's alright now
Alfie, alfie Conn.

23 Jan 2018 15:42:39
Loved this one

There's only one George Cadette,
He's got hair like spaghetti
He's Portugese and he scores with ease
Walking in Cadette wonderland

And to the same tune the cheeky one for big John

There's only one John Hartson,
Only one John Hartson
He comes from Wales and he bursts the scales
Walking in a Hartson wonderland
😂😂.

23 Jan 2018 15:44:50
Tommy twist, Tommy turns, Tommy Burns was always my favourite.

23 Jan 2018 15:53:51
Ally mccoist is an illegitimate . Hes not got a birth certificate . he's got aids and he can't get rid of it ( can't remember how the last line went lol) hail hail.

23 Jan 2018 16:00:35
Big Rab, wasn't it

theres only 1 George cadette
he puts the ball, in the netty?

Never heard the pasta based theme. :)

23 Jan 2018 16:00:58
Rab i have a Hartson scarf that says he's got no hair but we don't care 😂.

23 Jan 2018 16:03:18
Christ Tim when were you born the same time as Celtic 😂 Just joking pal keep them coming.

Cha i'm pretty sure that one ended with he's an Orange B@#@%@#$ 😉.

23 Jan 2018 16:04:57
'John Grieg' - every time a dug ran on the park.
'Harper's a Barrell'
'Jimmy Johnstone on the wing'
'Feed The Bear'
'There's only one King Billy'
'It's all gone quiet over there'
'Henrik Larsson is the King of Kings'
'When the Celts go marching in'
'Hello Hello Nine-in-a-row'
'na na na na na na na - Celtic'
'Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio'
and I remember in the 60's when we cheered possession and boo opposition interceptions etc when it first came out - brilliant!

23 Jan 2018 16:06:52
Ones called Ronald
Ones called Frank
One misses penalties
The other ones a ****.

23 Jan 2018 16:09:05
Cha67 I’m in tears here! Brilliant 🤣🤣🤣.

23 Jan 2018 16:11:45
give us a wave give us a wave peter latchford peter latchford.

23 Jan 2018 16:39:33
tell all the huns u know
that its going to be 10 in a row
but you missed the 1st 5
cos you werny alive
and yer club is a f. n freak show


bobo's going to get u

always look on the bright side of life.

23 Jan 2018 16:48:56
"Pierre there's only one Pierre"

23 Jan 2018 16:51:38
What about the Holy Goalie it was a classic, should have been in the UK top 40.

23 Jan 2018 16:39:45
We've got Larsson
and Mark Viduka,
you've got the queen
and davie cooper, **** him he's deed!

HH

Chris1888🍀🍀🍀.

23 Jan 2018 17:12:17
You our my larsson . Thom thom Andy Andy thom . HL is the king of kings.

23 Jan 2018 19:30:45
Always love it when the fans sang Always look on the bright side of life. Mind that fae early 90.
Singing We can see you sneaking out when we pumped them 6-2 was a right laugh.

23 Jan 2018 20:36:25
Danny Danny bless yourself, Danny bless yourself. against Shamrock Rovers. It was a Pish game, I think Mo Johnstone scored for us.

24 Jan 2018 11:50:08
Bit off topic as it wasn’t a Celtic song, remember watching a game involving Man Utd, the away fans (think it was Villa) , we’re singing about Park ji sung
Park park wherever you may be
You eat dogs in your home country
It could’ve been worse, you could’ve been scouse
Eating rats in your council house.

23 Jan 2018 09:17:41
Ed, What do you make of CD comments on Dembele wanting to leave. Do you still think we will have him beyond January. I personally can't see BR playing him ahead of players who are committed. I know that won't do any good for getting his value up but unfortunately that is the position we now find ourselves in with him. I certainly would not start him ahead of Griffiths or Edouard and as i said yesterday would now happily accept £20m with 15% sell on clause and wish him all the best as i don't see his form improving with his mindset the way it is. A shame it has come to this after only 18 months but that's modern footballers for you. that's why i would happily have taken Maclean and McCarthy up the road atleast they would give us 4 years plus loyalty and no doubt end their careers at CP. Still gutted for McCarthy after what we spoke about recently.

{Ed007's Note - Davies hasn't said anything we didn't already know and until there's any actual bids he won't be going anywhere. }

23 Jan 2018 11:43:33
ED. What would your minimum fee to be accepted? Mine, right now with the injuries and a sluggishness, would be 12m with a good add on or 15 with a lower percentage. As ever however the balls with Moussa i suppose.

{Ed007's Note - £20 million is the minimum I would accept and a 10% sell-on clause. You really think his value has at least halved because of the last 6 months? Clubs still know how good he is when fit and focused and the potential that he has, 6 months of niggly injuries shouldn't change anything - he's still scored 40 goals in 70 games for us and some people are writing off a 21-year-old kid who's been unlucky to pick up a few minor injuries and lost his confidence a bit.}

23 Jan 2018 11:54:16
Cheers Ed. Fingers crossed for a busy week ahead.

{Ed007's Note - Hopefully mate (yes)

23 Jan 2018 12:31:11
It's £20m atleast for me also with sell on clause. I have probably been harsh on him since yesterday but taking a step back and a look at reality if he leaves having made us £20m+ we should all be very grateful. When he does leave i will continue to watch his career like i do VVD and Wanyama. I would be the same with Armstrong. It is easy to get worked up about people leaving us but if truth be told if i was offered more cash elsewhere id be off in the morn 😂 Do you think Paddy is still an option to buy Ed.

{Ed007's Note - Yeah Roberts is still an option but any move for him will be in the summer.}

23 Jan 2018 13:08:12
Thanks Ed, i see what your saying, and i would never write the boy off, but this may be in his head? What i mean is he has had niggling injuries at the wrong time for us. Maybe he will not go flat out in case a huge contract is weeks, or now days, away.

Right now i just don't see us getting 20m, ordinarily i would agree with the 20-25m figure as you pointed out his goal ratio is excellent. I fear, like many before him he might have had enough of scotland, not Celtic.

{Ed007's Note - Do you think it might be a fear of injury that's making him play so erratically? As I said the other day he's playing like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders and the constant speculation about his future won't be helping his mental state. For me it's time the January window was scrapped altogether.}

23 Jan 2018 13:35:57
Glad to hear it, cheers Ed.

{Ed007's Note - Hopefully once he comes back he gives us the kind of performances that will get the board to splash the cash on him.}

23 Jan 2018 14:01:58
You know what i think of him, to get him on a long term deal would be in my opinion our best signing in a decade. On form just a joy to watch and one of the few that gets you off your seat every time he has the ball.

{Ed007's Note - I'd love to see Roberts sign up longer term. Imagine having KT, Ajer, Kouassi, Ntcham, Roberts and maybe Edouard all hitting their prime together?}

23 Jan 2018 15:03:08
If Dembelle played for Lille for eg he would be 30m min, and they not in CL. I think they tryin to punt a player for 30m or so and I never heard of him.
We got to stop underselling IMO look at the crazy stuff down south, quotes so far 30m Sturridge, 20m Carroll, 50m Dzeko, 1 can't get a game ever and is constantly injured, next is a long ball guy and constantly injured and other is 31 and at end of career but want 50m its laffable.

Our guy has much more potential than any of them and has potentially a huge sell on fee none of the above have.

23 Jan 2018 14:49:24
He definitely has some kind of burden on him. I think he will start tonight, massive shout for the boy. On Petrovs reply, add Ralston and the boy Millar and that is a strong group of young players.

23 Jan 2018 14:54:14
That's the kind of thing klopp said he was going to do at Liverpool, buy relatively young and let them gel together then they all hit their prime in a functioning team. Obviously we need to buy teenagers whereas they can pay the £20 million for an early 20's player that's already shown he can cut it.

23 Jan 2018 15:00:49
Ralston and Johnston too. Would be amazing to see these guys stick together for a good 3 to 4 seasons.

23 Jan 2018 15:14:12
Good shout FGJ, forgot about Miller. Not saying Sinclair is going anywhere soon but in future id like to see Johnstone and Miller compete for the left wing spot. I think Miller is being wasted at left back. I think it is a ludicrous decision trying to make him a full back when he was voted best youngster on the planet left wing. Get him in at left wing and let him go do his thing he might turn out to be better than Sinclair within a year or 2.

23 Jan 2018 06:40:35
I'm afraid I think many Celtic fans need to take a bit of a reality check regarding signings. I mean when have we ever really signed top class international players at top of their game? The simple fact is they just don't want to come to Scotland and is the reason why we sign up and coming guy's as we are able to give them a decent platform to shine.
Also I was reading that our operating costs have risen from 50mill to 70mill that money has to come from somewhere? Also a few signings that we have made?
Bottom line we are in no debt and winning trophy's . In BR we trust HH 💚.

23 Jan 2018 08:19:49
That should not prevent us from improving. There is thousands of players all across Europe nevermind the rest of the World that can come in and be better than what we have. Paddy Roberts is not a top class international yet is better than anyone in Scotland. There is plenty players out there good enough to come in and make us better it's just having the correct scounting to find them. I couldn't care less if they start for Brazil or don't play internationals at all to be honest.

23 Jan 2018 08:24:53
Paul Lambert would fall into the top class international at top of their game when we signed him.
But I get your point Celtic usually MAKE champions league players instead of buying them.

23 Jan 2018 08:43:53
What would Lambert be worth in todays market. £40m? What a player.

23 Jan 2018 10:06:10
When you look at teams like ajax and feyenord and even anderlecht we should be able to pick up decent young players like Virgil a bit more than we're doing. maybe it's the scouting.

23 Jan 2018 10:39:40
Celtic spending on players should increase according to the money coming in and the profits made, Celtic should be buying at the low end to improve and sell on, and buying quality to mix into the team. Celtic are talking about breaking the six million pound barrier, that's embarrassing, the tic have made the money, now give the fans the players they deserve, we all know its the spl and these players don't want to come, but money talks. BR doing a good job with the players he's getting cheap. if everyone's happy with that model then fair do's. then shareholders will take the money. hail hail. Glasgow derby the night.

23 Jan 2018 11:54:13
Ypf your talking about profit Celtic have made. 6.9 million before tax was all they made last year. Almost every penny the club brings in goes back out. We have over £70 million running costs.

23 Jan 2018 13:19:07
Thanks Kev83, Profit from players, profits from sell on clauses, domestic games and euro revenues.
6.9 mil last year, i think we spent 5 million.
surely in the running cost budget for the following year there is a war chest, or are we still in the biscuit tin.
I understand with big money buys comes big wages and more running cost, but that's today's market and crazy prices's.

23 Jan 2018 13:40:11
we spent more the 5 million on players in the summer.
Ntcham was 4.5 ish
Hayes was around 1.5
We've now spent money on Compper and the bhoy fae st mirren.
We paid a smallish fee for benyu.
People seem to think because the club is selling players and making the champions league that the club is banking 10s of millions when in fact it's around 6 million in a very good year.
The year before it was around the 500 thousand mark.
The club does spend just about what it makes.

23 Jan 2018 17:03:34
Also the manager is getting around 2million a season, I think we spend what we can and if the right player is available to us we will buy them. Does Paddy Roberts actually want to sign for us though I'm not so sure myself I reckon if he did he would have.