23 Feb 2015 20:36:49
Evening folks, can someone shed some light on this for me, having bought my ticket for final against Utd when should I expect it to be sent in post? On another point why is it a former bluenose in billy Dodds to come out and say he sees nothing wrong in delia and the players actions after the inter game and it just seems to be ex celtic players or ex Liverpool player who always said he had affections for the hoops, to put a dampner on what I thought was an amazing night at celtic park, really getting on my tats now these folk
Notice who the ex-players are mate? They all played in same team as Lennon and are close friends. Before anyone jumps the gun, I am not saying anything bad about Lennon. Merely stating an opinion that perhaps Lennon parting company was not as amicable as he is trying to portray, but more something along lines he was told contract was not getting renewed and as a result sutton and co have major gripe with Deila.
I personally don't pay attention to them. They think they are the elite race when it comes to commenting on Celtic
Sutton used to have a right go at Celtic even when Lennon was in charge. He does this really annoying thing where he always compares the current team to the one that he played in. It's a daft way to look at things because Ronny doesn't have 5 or 6 million to throw at a complete, experienced player so under the circumstances he, and Lennon to an extent, have achieved a good standard with the resources they were given.
Think it just annoys me most with Sutton as I really did admire him when he was here, there was one game which if I'm honest I can't recall but certainly remember Sutton slating celtic s defence, it was high scoring game which we won and all I could think was . How can you say things like that after you played against juventus in probably the best European game I've seen . 4-3 at home . There was no bleeding about the defence then!! Just gets my blood up the big twat
I don't know what was wrong with the players doing a lap of honour on Thursday night.
I was glad to be able to applaud the players for a magnificent effort against a good team, and I imagine the players wanted to thank the fans for the wonderful backing they gave the team.
I haven't heard the comments, but do these people believe that the players should have just walked off the pitch, without acknowledging the crowd.
I thought it was great that the players showed their appreciation to the fans, and I enjoyed being able to thank them for their efforts, it capped a great night.
Sadly a lot of the pundits seem to think the fans don't matter, or are jealous of the respect these players were shown.
In these days of football mercenaries and money being the be all and end all, I thought it was brilliant that the team and fans were able to thank each other for making it a very special occasion.
The thing with Sutton, Hartson etc is that they played in a very good team made up of players many of whom cost a lot of money. The team we played on Thursday cost £11mil to assemble. To put that in perspective Sutton and Hartson cost £12mil combined, and that was 15 years ago. They need to stop comparing the team to the one they played in, I mean it had Larsson in it for christ sake.
It was a great game on thursday, and it was a great performance by Celtic, entertainment wise, but it had so many bad bits to it, the defence was baad, apart from Gordon making some real bloopers, there was so much you could criticise about the central defenders, the passing and movement of the whole team was good till came to making the final pass, I lost count of the number of final passes that went an inter player, the spirit in the team seemed to be good, Ijust knew that we were going to get a result in the end, I never heard what Sutton or Mcmanaman said in thier commentary, but I could see where people could criticise the performance.
Football is part of the entertainment industry (I know for many it is more than just a show) and as such, has to engage with the audience. A good show has the patrons/audience on its feet in appreciation. This was no different. We held our own against a team which, like Barcelona, on paper should have walked over us. I appreciated the hard work and entertainment provided and I was also more than happy to acknowledge that. The team know they worked hard, they know they fought back and, more importantly, they entertained us and gave us hope for the return game. They also know that, but for a few mistakes, they could (should) have won the game. Stuff all those who spit out the dummy (Sutton is a frustrated manager who can't get a job at that level so he criticizes, methinks).
When he has managed a few teams successfully, then I might take notice of what he (and any other ex-player) says about running a team and what they should/should not do. Until then. he is star from the past and has had his time.
Aindoh I get the gist of what your saying mate, but let's put it simple terms, if every player on the park ( both teams ) played a perfect game then there would be more chance of 0-0 results in every game . Football for me is about coming away from the ground still buzzing from I've just watched and although it's few and far between just now, Thursday's game was brilliant to be there, the atmosphere unbelievable, I was sitting next to a group of auld yins all in their late 60 s to 80 s and they were going nuts at the end, just grabbing the closest person to them cuddling them, for me that's what it's all about who cares about wee mistakes here and there aslong as I get that feeling after a game I'll be a happy bhoy
Aindoh, you are a little harsh Gordon had a nightmare, I think everyone would agree with that. The defence can't be too bad apart from that as inter didn't get too many chances .
Our final ball was excellent on some occasions as we sliced Inter open on a number of times.
Now remember Inter have had far higher quality of players than we have, their bench would be valued at a number times our whole squad .
Chris "the defence can't be too bad", is a strange thing to say when we have conceded 22 goals in Europe this season. There is no doubt we are improving as a team and that we will win most games domestically (sometimes at a canter). But Europe is the only place we truly get tested, and to lose 22 goals doesn't augar well for progression. though I still think we can take Inter I would be surprised if it was done with a clean sheet.None of the teams we have played in Europe this season are normally CL standard either maybe with exception to Inter who obv didn't make it this year.
Rayman . I think even you who are as negative as one could find, would admit that there is little or no comparison between how well our team has played this year compared to pre Christmas and especially in August, September and October when Deila was getting used to the strengths and weaknesses of our squad and building on the strengths and reducing the weaknesses. Most of us are happy with the progress . Deila is less concerned about the loss of goals, than you obviously are as he is quite happy to concede goals in any game , as long as the team scores more . If nil all draws or one nil victories are your cup of tea, then I doubt when Deila has the team implementing his ideas fully Celtic won't be playing your way.
Chris, never said I was happy with 0-0 draws. Don't put words in my mouth. I have stated a fact we have conceded 22 goals. This is nothing to be proud of but if we win the Europa cup conceding 100 goals I will be ecstatic but you
cant win euro trophies this way unless you have the talents of barca for eg.Its got nothing to do with negativity its reality. I also happy with the progress now but that doesn't mean its a certainty to continue, like everythin else Chris it can improve but it can also get worse that's the harsh reality it doesn't mean I negative. We all go to games in the positive frame of mind of beating a barca say in the CL it doesn't mean we will win it. I would also be amazed if RD wasn't concerned about the number of goals we conceding in Europe any manager wud.
Its not being negative to highlight the fact that the defence could be iimproved, all the best teams were built from the back, your deluding yourself if you think if we lose 3 then we will just have to score 4, the team now is a big improvement on the murrayfield one, but that had more to do with RD fnding his feet(his own feet) rather than finding the strengths and weakness's of the squad, I think that the scotland centre half, can't remember his name, hanley or martin, not as technically gifted as vvd or denayer, but maybe a more steady conservative player, or there must be a young mcleish or holton out there, ie a no nonsense ch, there were a few in the wc, but I can't remember their names, but maybe if vvd and denayer get better coaching, (not having a go at RD ) they can remember that they are defenders
Rayman, I think most Celtic fans see a big improvement in the Celtic team since the turn of the year . I would think that our improvement is more important than going on about the concession of goals which mostly came about during Deila's very early months . Every other manager this century started off with some sort of working knowledge of some of the Celtic players, the Celtic team and Scottish Football. Deila had to bring himself up to the mark in practically no time . I think this is more worthy of mentioning than the early concession of a crowd of goals . Last week we conceded three bad goals to Inter Milan but Rayman be honest before the match last Thursday would you have accepted a draw?
I will just repeat that under Deila we are likely to get high scoring games .
{Ed007's Note - Andy McCann had been one of the groundsmen at CP since 1978, he died on Friday aged 77.}