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22 Jun 2018 22:40:16
I think it would be imteresting to keep tables of the number of players moved on benforce September 1st that were on loan last season . Compare this list to the number who were on loan last season and start 5 games before January 1st .
To start with
James McCart
Joe Thompson
Have both been moved on . Are there
anymore?
23 Jun 2018 09:00:25
Wardope Lindsay cftci.
22 Jun 2018 21:07:43
So Armstrong is off. That's another squad player away for a decent fee. We head to Austria for our pre season. How do we work out signings when our manager and coaching staff are away? Is Lee Congerton working behind the scenes?
22 Jun 2018 22:00:30
Telephones Ken š
The targets will have been drawn up before now mate (bar the possibilities of a player being offered to us or deals opening up later on in the window) so it's pretty much in the hands of PL to get deals done I'd imagine. BR will have his phone on him though, seriously.
22 Jun 2018 22:03:40
Lee Congerton is the worse business we've done for years.
{Ed007's Note - Do you understand what a Head of Recruitment's job is? It was Congerton that recommended Edouard and laid the foundations of him joining on loan, he's probably still trying to clear up the mess John Park left.}
22 Jun 2018 22:17:20
Surely the targets have all been scouted and rated, and what needs to be done now could be completed by phone calls between Brendan &Peter.
{Ed007's Note - Brendan Rodgers doesn't care how much players are getting paid to model kits, I'm hoping any signings are further down the road than needing the manager's involvement.}
22 Jun 2018 22:59:08
How true is this story ED in relation to the fee etc if true I think it's a loss.
22 Jun 2018 23:55:14
Good luck to Stuart, I think heās performed well for us and we seem to have got a fair deal with him only having a year left. I hope he plays well there and gets a bigger move . Unfortunately against quite a few on this site I donāt want us spending some of the cash out on Mcginn . I really donāt see where he can fit into our team at the minute . Heās not going to start ahead of Brown Ntcham, he wonāt get the same amount of goals as McGregor, or is he going to take Rogic place so I really think it could be a waste of money. I appreciate he may be seen as browns replacement but he wonāt want to come here to sit on the bench until Father Time starts catching up with the skipper, who shows no signs of slowing up yet.
{Ed007's Note - McGinn will contest with Ntcham to play beside Brown and hopefully Kouassi, he's a totally different player than McGregor and plays in a differenr position to him and Rogic. McGinn will play like Armstrong or Ntcham and get up and down the park while Brown sits back. I've said it for months that McGinn is an ideal replacement for Armstrong, he's already a better player than Brown was at that age and I have no qualms that he will become a great player for us and could potentially be captain material in years to come. Over time he will learn the game and become the same type of player as Brown but probably with more technical ability. }
23 Jun 2018 00:48:25
The way your talking there Ed is like Mc Ginn has sighed for us . already?
{Ed007's Note - He hasn't. }
23 Jun 2018 05:53:23
Iād have to disagree with you there ed, itās all about opinions but heās not better than Ntcham so I see it as a pointless signing. I personally donāt see why we would want to sign a player who wonāt come in and improve the team. Like you touched on, he will pretty much be fighting for Kouassi for game time as brown and Ntcham are now first picks . For me, we have better already and although he could go down south and his price rocket heās just going to get a bench place. For me maybe the timing is wrong, would he be happy to come in and wait for game time
Or the odd midweek fixture when we are resting Brown . I know heās one of us but Iām not sure.
In saying that I never rated McGregor until a couple of seasons ago and heās pushed on and is one of our most consistent and classy players now so Iāll probably be proved wrong again š.
{Ed007's Note - He won't be fighting Kouassi for a place, they're different players and would be more likely play together. So basically you want to sign someone to replace Ntcham then?}
23 Jun 2018 09:04:20
Mcginn will improve us bhoys great player and a Celtic man.
23 Jun 2018 08:07:38
Ed you clearly rate Congerton and give him credit for Eduardo. Do we forget about.
Hayes, Benyu, De vries, Gambo, Kouassi, Hendry and Musonda.
All in my opinion not worked or working out.
{Ed007's Note - And you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Hayes, de Vries, Gamboa and Hendry were all players Brendan Rodgers targeted. Kouassi is just a kid who has a big future in the game as does Hendry, Benyu is another kid who cost butttons in training compensation and sadly even Rodgers couldn't get Musonda - another Rodgers target - to apply himself.}
23 Jun 2018 11:05:45
Is there a deal in the making for McGinn then Ed?
{Ed007's Note - Yes mate.}
23 Jun 2018 11:51:44
So Congerton has only been involved in the Eduardo deal all the rest are Brendans targets. No problem.
{Ed007's Note - I never said so there's actually two problems. The first is that you have no idea what you're talking about and the second is that you haven't even bothered to read what I've written.}
23 Jun 2018 12:04:06
Good bit business getting that fee! Clearly had no intention of staying with us for the long haul and was quite surprised he stayed last season! U think this will clear the way for McGinn to come in? How much u think it would take to bring him in?
23 Jun 2018 11:57:20
Ed, no I donāt want Ntcham replaced. That is in fact my point in that I donāt think we need Mcginn . I just canāt see where he fits in to the starting 11 regularly. Some people in here just want Mcginn as he is a Tim and wants to play for us.
On another point I read today about a possible loan for McTominay, have you heard anything? ( again I donāt think itās what we need but it was on another site )
{Ed007's Note - So we lose Armstrong and don't replace him in the squad and Kouassi is probably going out on loan what happens if Ntcham or Brown need a rest or get injured, who comes into the team?
Some people don't want to sign McGinn because he isn't a fancy named foreigner and 'only' coming from Hibs. McGinn is already a better footballer than Scott Brown was at that age and is even probably a technically better and more skillful player than Brown has ever been.
What do you think of the Edouard signing, where does he fit into the starting 11 if Dembele stays and do you think we needed to sign him?}
23 Jun 2018 12:26:20
Hayes, de Vries, Gamboa and Hendry were all players Brendan Rodgers targeted you also added musonda to the list. I said no problem
Leaves kouassi and Benyu you gave a opinion on the 2 players. I said no problem
As I said in my original post IMO these players haven't worked out. It's just a opinion you have every right to disagree. Who was responsible for Commper just asking.
{Ed007's Note - Probably his mum and dad bumped uglies and 9 months later wee Marvin popped out. I'm trying to be nice here, you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about or how scouting and transfers work but think about this - Brendan Rodgers has the final say on every player we sign for the first team squad so if you need someone to take the responsibility then it's the manager.
How you can form an opinion without understanding the facts is a bit of a push and there's a massive difference in your opinion and the facts. We've been through alll this before when Jonh Park and Lawwell were running the show and people not understanding jobs and how scouting and transfers work and I'm not doing it again, try the search function.}
23 Jun 2018 13:34:54
Of course the manager will have the final say and he will take advice from his head of recruitment . You say I don't understand the transfer structure which maybe so.
Looked up what Lawell said recently
ON CELTIC RECRUITMENT
āWe have squad-planning meetings regularly with Brendan and Lee Congerton [head of recruitment].
āWe understand the needs and wants of the manager in terms of people he may want to move on, and the positions and individual he wants to bring in to make the team better.
Lee Congerton heads up the Hoopsā recruitment department
āLee will go out continually ā itās relentless ā looking at options for these positions.
āWe put together a proposal that would go to Brendan and the coaches and on a technical basis ā theyāll say yes or no.
āThose that are said yes to, come to me then in terms of the understanding of what itād take to either move a player on or bring a player in.
āThen we go to the market.
āThereās no other business like this in terms of the emotion.
I thought Congerton was identifying the players I mentioned. Was only going by the way Pedro said transfer policy worked. Obviously you have more inside information than me and if they are Brendans targets fair enough.
Hopefully Congerton can find more gems like Eduardo and Brendan doesn't recommend anybody else ššš.
23 Jun 2018 23:03:53
I wonder what Hoppy takes to make him Happy .
Re- possible signing of McGinn, as long as it is the Hibs McGinn, I would be all for it
In my opinion and I know it's only the odd time I am right, the centre midfield area is the most important area of the team and whether u play with 2 or 3 you cannot afford to get beaten in that area . So you need your first team players and back-ups all fit and ready to go.
22 Jun 2018 20:53:19
Armstrong looks like he's off for a hefty fee. Great business by the club. If what they say is true, we've just banked Ā£7m for a squad player. That's Edouard paid for!
22 Jun 2018 20:57:48
Done well for us, healthy profit and he wants to try something else, good luck to the lad.
Hope we have our usual 10% sell on clause in the deal. so more cash for us.
22 Jun 2018 21:09:02
7 million in for a squad player 10 out for another squad player . that's great business bigrabš.
22 Jun 2018 21:54:44
Not unhappy at that, VVD money covered the Eduoard transfer we usually spend 5 mill close season in the model if we could get the same for Boyata in his last season and recoup our money for Gamboa . We could spend as much as 20 mill close season. Cannot see it myself but it stacks up that way (Y)
22 Jun 2018 21:55:47
It's a good fee, but it's also about the going rate and to be honest what I would have expected with him having a year left. I've seen worse midfielders signed for a hell of a lot more the past couple of years. Southampton have done a turn or two on our players as well so I doubt they'll see playing in Scotland the same way some clubs might. This should really open the door for us to get another quality signing in.
22 Jun 2018 22:00:02
Think once he was fit, Armstrong would be more than a squad player, I would have him as an essential part of the midfield, I hope it's only a rumour that he is away, but if it is true, it means Southampton have got a bargain, and another example of Scottish based players being sold on the cheap compared to the prices lesser English players get transferred for.
22 Jun 2018 22:28:32
What did Armstrong bring last season and what did Eddy bring? The difference is, Eddy sees where he wants to be for the next few years, im not sure Armstrong does. If he wants to go South to a mid table at best mediocre team then so long. No more big European nights, or trophys. He gets exposure in the big EPL, if he's lucky to get off the bench that is.
Good luck to him and I hope it works out. Celtic won't miss him.
22 Jun 2018 23:01:22
Not going to bad-mouth him as he made a fantastic contribution to the 'Invincible' season and was a potential Celtic great - if he had, had our club at heart, which he clearly hadn't and was looking elsewhere for a wee while now. Good luck to him, now we must progress and improve and concentrate on fully committed players.
23 Jun 2018 09:46:57
He was a good player for us. I hate all this ge was a squad player crap. Itās disrespectful and doesnāt sit right. Wish the guy well, acknowledge what he contributed and down play it because he wants to try England. Lacks class.
Good luck Stuart, thanks for your contribution son. Okay great and get us another few bob when you get a move to a better team.
23 Jun 2018 12:05:13
I rate Armstrong as one of the best midfielders I. Britain. If he goes, whatever the fee, I will be gutted.
22 Jun 2018 18:27:35
I hope nobody has read too much into Gamboa having a good game today. He looked good at the last WC, got his big move to the PL and has played 30 league games in the 4 years since.
22 Jun 2018 19:18:34
Nobody is getting carried away. I want him to play well so we get more money for him when heās punted. But, fair play to him he did well, apart from one suicidal ballsup. He got away with it but it reminded me why heās not good enough.
23 Jun 2018 00:33:08
I'm not saying he is a world beater. I'm simply saying he hasn't had a run in the team at Celtic.
He disappears for months then gets thrown in against PSG, Barcelona or teams of that level, then gets his performance criticised.
Hard to judge unless you get a proper run of games. However if he can handle Neymar, even as a one off then I'm sure he can handle the SPL tbh.
23 Jun 2018 07:45:16
I support him at the world cup cause he's a celtic player, simple as that.
23 Jun 2018 09:40:52
Like 'Eric', Allen, Ciftci and Compper, BR clearly does not see Gamboa in his plans and although I want every current Celtic player to do well in Russia - I don't think he will be here next season.
22 Jun 2018 17:36:07
If Leicester City don't want Ahmed Musa I wouldn't mind Brendan firing in a cheeky wee bid, on today's form the lad looks a player .
{Ed007's Note - He'll more than likely be joining Galatasaray on loan.}
22 Jun 2018 19:24:09
He definitely looked a player today but how often do you see a player rip up an international tourement then flop at a big club.
22 Jun 2018 15:15:42
Just watched the Brazil game. This has got to be the worst World Cup I've seen. I hope it's going to get better. We need the better teams to stop england in their tracks asap.
{Ed007's Note - Behave yourself, England beat Tunisia with an injury time goal. Anyone that thinks England have any chance of winning the World Cup is either English or a raving lunatic.}
22 Jun 2018 16:00:09
Spot on Ed. The usual hype has kicked in. England are terrible.
{Ed007's Note - No team has really stood out in any games I've seen - Spain v Portugal was a cracker though - but England look as average as some of the smaller nations.}
22 Jun 2018 16:22:58
ill be honest guys. Gamboa had Neymar in his pocket for much of that game. Maybe we need to give him a chance.
22 Jun 2018 16:41:57
Croatia and Belgium look the picks for me.
{Ed007's Note - I was expecting more from Belgium. I thought they really struggled to get going, especially in the first half, but it was their first game.}
22 Jun 2018 17:30:24
Few teams need a push, I don't like international football. Will be surprised to see one of the favourites win it.
{Ed007's Note - I'm not a big fan of it either and there's been plenty of games I haven't watched and from what I've heard I haven't missed much.}
22 Jun 2018 18:26:25
Said before many times, I don't like International football and so far this WC has done very little to change my opinion.
There have only been about three or four games worthy of the event, with too many jaded and below average performances from players who are arguably the very best in their country at their position.
I have actually fallen asleep during two games and don't get me started on this VAR - which, when/ if it becomes mandatory, will create merry hell, especially in Scotland.
22 Jun 2018 18:26:55
Croatia for me. They will go a long way.
22 Jun 2018 18:52:30
Ed, Havenāt watched a single game but if the Brexiteers win the World Cup Iāll run around Parkhead naked then immigrate to lovely Derry on the banks of the Foyle where nobody would give a feck anyway. If Celtic isnāt playing and to a lesser extent if Scotland arenāt in the World Cup am no interested although the little Englanders winning it is enough as pit me aff my next pint a Guinness and curry! āļø.
{Ed007's Note - I was getting withdrawal symptoms from football mate and it's better than nothing or daft youth tournaments. I'm pretty sure the eyes of Parkhead will be safe from seeing you in the buff!}
22 Jun 2018 19:24:05
VAR is great. Mostly right decisions. Cuts out hun refs doing their team a favour. Or, honest mistakes as itās known. I would love it. We would lose a few but win a lot more. All supporters, who basically feel the refs are against them, including the gers get it sorted. Bring it on. Our problem is the league is so poor financially, that itās s non starter, finals though and games against the gers. That would be a start.
{Ed007's Note - It would still the same people making the decisions and covering for each other's mistakes so nothing would change and it would be a disaster in Scotland like it is in Germany. The whole thing will eventually become a pain in the ar$e, people will get sick of it like the Germans and it'll hopefully get dumped.}
22 Jun 2018 20:16:13
Argentina will win it.
22 Jun 2018 21:55:16
I have watched most games but seen very little football. Fair enough some good goals today .
The Var would be a complete disaster if it was introduced into SPFL, we don't trust the Officals we have now, people operating Var would do so in a way that only hair-line decisions given towards us would be reviewed .
23 Jun 2018 12:06:44
English or a raving lunatic? Is that not the same thing.
22 Jun 2018 14:22:38
Gamboa playing well against Brazil.
22 Jun 2018 15:20:21
Right after I posted that he nearly sold the jerseys with a bad clearance. :)
22 Jun 2018 16:24:17
I saw what you saw and i thought he did well enough for our 3rd choice RB not played since Feb and against Neymar. They didn't score when ge was on. Just saying.
22 Jun 2018 21:59:40
Gamboa had a very good game right up to he ran out of steam around the 70th min. Not only did he defend well but he also put in some magnificent attacking crosses .
He and Brendan must have had a serious disagreement and when that happens there can be only one winner.
22 Jun 2018 10:56:21
Does anyone think we are still after a playmaker, Brendan obviously wanted another in due to him loaning the Chelsea lad but obviously that never worked out for either party. I appreciate we have Rogic there but we had him last season and we still signed the Belgian .
22 Jun 2018 12:12:54
100% Quinn, think he was looking for an adaptable player who can play the wings Aswell. People speak of Mcregor playing out wide but heās better in the No10 role. Iād imagine a new winger will come in. Bamba has been mentioned but think itās just talk. That would be a really good signing.
22 Jun 2018 13:30:45
Remember Christie is back in the squad and he can play there.
So it really all comes down to whether or not Rodgers sees Christie as a viable option. If not then I would imagine we will get someone in and ship Christie out.
22 Jun 2018 14:23:38
Christie is nowhere near the answer.
22 Jun 2018 16:25:07
Hes Ok. But he's nae Lubo. that's the class level we need back.
22 Jun 2018 17:31:39
Lubo is a rare kind of player. If only we had players of that class available to us. After all he was a magician.
22 Jun 2018 18:30:48
So far we go to the Austrian training camp weaker than we were end of the season. Disappointed so far. Maybe there are 2 or 3 players being looked at but we need them in sooner than later. Need some quality additions. No more projects please.
22 Jun 2018 22:08:59
We certainly are not weaker than we were at the end of season . Players are well rested and as most of them are in their early 20's they will be improved in strengths and skills and knowledge of playing Brendan's way .
Of course we are weaker the four who are at World Cup, but that is only temporary .
Two or three that we're starting to push towards the bench may well make regular appearances this season from the word go.
We won't strengthen very much on the transfer market.
23 Jun 2018 12:07:02
If we are looking to sign another Lubo, then expect disappointment - he's a one off. I just hope that despite the rumours, Armstrong stays. I'll be gutted to see him go regardless of the fee.
22 Jun 2018 07:22:36
If true and we have a chance at getting wee Paddy then this could turn out the most successful transfer window ever for us PL make it happen Here we go for 10 in a row šš®šŖ.
22 Jun 2018 07:57:20
Been seeing this rumour in a few places, good or bad? Good side is we know what's there, bad side will it hinder young Johnsons progress? Morgan is also here to add to JF but Roberts does have that little extra. If he comes i will be amazed as the outlay will be enormous.
22 Jun 2018 10:20:55
Paddy is better than Johnstone is right now and probably better than he ever will be. Our priority is improving, if Johnstone has what it takes he will. Paddy would be a fantastic signing but I canāt see it sadly.
We shouldnāt be worried about holding back anybody, if you arenāt good enough to claim a place in the team thatās your fault asxa player. Players need to realise they do t get a free pass because they are our youngsters. They need to take on the challenge and if they are good enough they play, if not they donāt.
Wether Paddy comes or not shouldnāt hold back any young player. It should motivate them to do the business. We canāt not go for good players because it might hinder another. If it improves the team and Paddy at his best dies, we need to go for it.
As I said though, I canāt see this happening. Although I wonāt give up hope until he moves to another club.
22 Jun 2018 10:23:14
Would reckon it's wishful thinking (myself included ha ha) as he seemed to have made his mind up about his future when he waved goodbye after Broonie's testimonial.
The cash already spent on securing long term deals for current players and bringing Edouarde here permanently has shown ambition and commitment by the board, however and I am confident we will bring in more quality- even if it's not the wee man, who, it was reported, sees his future down south.
22 Jun 2018 10:46:37
I know itās highky unlikely, but I wonāt give up hope until heās signed by someone else. He was our best winger by a mile when on form. Never say never, but I wonāt be holding my breath.
Well, maybe a wee bit.
22 Jun 2018 11:40:40
Paddy wants to play down south now. No point to this rumour anymore.
22 Jun 2018 12:02:03
I know.
22 Jun 2018 22:13:16
The only chance we have of signing Paddy is if no team from the top half of the EPL wants to sign him .
Based on how he played last season on loan for us, I don't think too many will be in for him and BR will be able to sign him if he wants to.
22 Jun 2018 06:14:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 22nd June 2018
21 Jun 2018 23:12:03
Before I get excited. Ed do I pay any attention to the Roberts return (again) rumours? Thought he wanted a prem move.
{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't build my hopes up.}
22 Jun 2018 09:09:59
I think we have moved past this one and the lad didn't want to come back anyway so its hard to believe.
22 Jun 2018 11:11:30
Cheers Ed, always seems unlikely!
22 Jun 2018 12:27:10
Hes made his wishes clear so let's move on and just thank him and wish him all the best. He would have been legendary had he decided to stay Im sure of this but good luck.
23 Jun 2018 23:42:11
I saw nothing in the season just past to say Paddy Roberts could have been a legend . I will be disappointed if either Morgan or Johnstone doesn't contribute more than him in this coming season.