Celtic Banter Archive July 22 2017

 

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22 Jul 2017 22:26:57
After almost 60 yrs following Celtic the weakness of our board is driving me into depression . We had trophy less years in the 90's but then we could rely on wee McCann to get us what we deserved from SFA and he fought for us in Europe as well.
Wednesday night. Was a disgrace from the outset . I can't believe our board allowed the number of police inside our stadium . Our Board should have discussed numbers at least a week before hand .
Our board make no attempt to keep us supporters up to date in what they are doing to make right the wrongs. Did our board discuss the racist chants during Linfield match with UEFA . What did UEFA say to Board about ref booking LG for handing him bottle that had just missed his head .
The non communication is the worse part, fans think Board is doing nothing .
In our last match v Rangers our Captain was attacked on the pitch and objects thrown at players . Nothing has happened.
What's happening re stripping of titles, does board want them to go away .

It's my opinion based on our board apparently unwilling to question UEFA and SFA, that we are not far away from the day either SFA or UEFA will reverse results on the bases of bigoted decisions.

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23 Jul 2017 00:12:53
Excellent post. At the rate of some of our hippy do gooder fans they will soon be flying union jacks.

Bunch of sensitive middle class girls.

If it offended them so much how come i've never once seen anyone ask someone to stop singing rebels at Celtic park? Cowards. Totally spineless.

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23 Jul 2017 04:02:57
ยฃ2.2 million roughly is how much its going to cost the club if Celtic park closed for european tie and its edging closer all the time. How accomodating will the club be if that eventually happens.

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23 Jul 2017 07:18:46
The Green Brigade are out of control and full of their own importance. PL should ban the lot of them for life, let them start up their own team over in Ireland and they can sing their songs and show their banners until their hearts are content. The don't represent the Celtic I and many others support.

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23 Jul 2017 07:59:29
I would just like to point out a few points that seem to be getting overlooked in this discussion.

1. Most of the recent UEFA charges were not a result of the Green Brigade's banners and were in fact caused by Celtic themselves. For instance the bibs containing sponsor logos and the blocking of the isles by stewards and police.

2. That a lot of people condemning the banners were more than happy to join in with a few rebel songs being sung on the night. I was at the game and I can assure you that a high percentage of our support were singing Broad Black Brimmer. Did they consider the possible consequences when they sung these songs? If not they have a cheek to try and pin the blame on the Green Brigade.

Personally I will not let Lawwell and the rest of the board marginalise a section of our fans.

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23 Jul 2017 08:21:37
Dafabet, I am not looking to provoke here, just trying to get an understanding of your comments, and my perceived reasons for supporting CFC in comparison to someone else who is also a fan. So may I ask you, why you support Celtic?

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23 Jul 2017 10:53:28
Malika again by the same token you seem to be suggesting that if your not into Irish politics, freeing Palestine or social justice then you shouldn't be supporting Celtic? You know some people believe passionately about all these things but do it through other avenues and go to Celtic park for 90 minutes of escapism, where they can leave all these troubles at the turnstiles and enjoy FOOTBALL . I've never heard a Celtic fan ask that question, there are so many reasons to love Celtic , from it being passed down from generation to generation to loving the history of charitable foundations to just loving the way we play the game . I thought it was only our rivals across the city that made sure you follow followed a certain ( ahem ) tradition's or where you had to be a of a certain political persuasion or had to hate a particular group or religion before you could support them . Can I ask, why do you support Glasgow Celtic Malika?

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23 Jul 2017 11:18:50
Malika, I would like to gain an understanding of why you support Celtic, so why do you support the green and white? I assume by your comments that you may believe that the GB are a true representation of the majority? What is your perception of the banners that were held aloft on Wednesday, banners that insult our manager and appear to be pro IRA?

The BG's statement is utter guff and is a true reflection of their ignorance and arrogance.

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23 Jul 2017 11:36:59
Guys, the GB have been warned about their behaviour and displays of certain stuff in the past. Don't forget they were 'disbanded' for a while a couple of years ago.
They need to learn that Paradise is for football and nothing else. They should be there supporting the team, not political (or any other) causes. HH.

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23 Jul 2017 11:37:30
Ballochi,
There is absolutely no provocation intended in my previous post, just simply trying to understand. I have made No Assumptions or statements on Political preferences of anybody. I Am not given to general sweeping statements, which seem to encompass a lot of the recent posts on here, your contentious attitude is very commendable and is indeed one of the reasons why I support CFC.

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23 Jul 2017 11:37:50
Good question Malika. No provocation intended from here either but would also be interested in Dafabets response to your question after what sounds a fairy angry post aimed at the Green Brigade. Without their input over the last few years the stadium would have been dead with the atmosphere of a funeral and as well shut. Last year 50,000 singing Grace gained plaudits from many apart from usual places where approval would not be expected.

So I too look forward to Dafabets reply. There is obviously a lot unites the Celtic family but increasing it appears much divides us. I don't remember this being the case years ago when Celtic political allegiances were more controversial during more politically sensitive times. Has some of the Celtic support increasingly become increasingly upwardly mobile and wishing to pander to political correctness in a Scotland that we will never FIT INTO due to its institutionalised anti-Irish and more so anti-Catholicism.

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23 Jul 2017 12:04:35
Ballochi nobody is saying you have to be anti irish politics to be at Celtic park

But people are pointing out irish politics have been in the stands since before any of you were born. To deny this is revisionism and totally false.

Irish republicanism has been tied with the club. The club used to sell records with rebels on them

Its fine people like you don't want to sing it but don't have the cheek to tell others not to.

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23 Jul 2017 12:14:30
Been reading posts now for a few weeks so this is my first everyone seems to b calling out the board an pl for not defending our club but why should they go to uefa or fifa with complaints when our own fans will just let them down by singing these types of song and chants maybe if for once when we go out to europe or against rangers these songs don't get sang it might give the board the incentive to take action but as long as the minority keep doing it then its a waste of the boards time even thinking about taking action we all have plenty to say about other teams maybe we should focus on leading by example rather than lowering our selfs to their level.

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{Ed007's Note - What songs or chants did Celtic get in trouble over, there's no mention of anything like that in any the UEFA charges? Are you seriously suggesting that it was only a minority singing Rebel songs on Wednesday because that's just complete made up bollocks.
Why would Celtic go to UEFA to complain when the cowardly and spineless multi-millionaires won't even complain to the SPFL or SFA about a player being racially abused, our captain being confronted on an away pitch by a violent drunken bigot or our players having to dodge coins and a battery during a domestic game?
The sooner the SFA/SPFL install strict liability the better off the whole game in Scotland will be.}

23 Jul 2017 13:05:52
Not suggesting that at all just saying its the minoroty that let the rest down and i do agree that spl/ spfl need to do more to protect the scottish game and no person should go to work and recieve that kind of abuse reguardless of what strip they pull on or what their religion is all im saying is that we call for change on these matters then we should lead the way by starting with our own fans lead by example rather than lowering ourselves to their level.

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{Ed007's Note - You should apply to be a steward then, that way you'll be able to tell people at the game what they should and shouldn't be doing, it's heartening to know we have supporters like you to keep everyone else right about how they should behave, how we've last so long without people like I'll never know!
Do you feel responsible for everyone else is doing in the stadium or is it just the GB, do you worry about the guys having a fly smoke in the toilet, I've even smelled weed in there sometimes? What about some young lad that's been lifted for being drunk, do you think he's letting the Club and every other fan down? If you seen someone drinking a can of lager he had sneaked in would you alert the nearest steward, surely you should be leading by example and it's the only way we'll ever weed out these ruffians and rascals that are upsetting you.
The GB are responsible for themselves and have rightly taken full responsibility for Wednesday banner, the sanctimonious bs from other fans is vomit inducing.
It seems everyone likes the GB as long as they're doing what that person wants them to do and to see so called supporters turn on others and literally celebrate innocent people like Welshbhoy being banned is wrong on so many levels.
The Celtic family - don't me me laugh, there's Celtic supporters out there I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. I dread to think what our support will be like in 5-10 years time.}

23 Jul 2017 13:48:58
Your right people like welshboy shouldn't b getting tarred with same brush shouldn't lose there seat for two games because of someone elses actions as for the gb not got a problem actually think its quite funny that their being slated for the exact same banner that got them so much praise worldwide last season and as for people smoking drinking at cp isn't getting celtic fines so no i wouldn't report them and you are right some of the abuse our players and fans get is disgusting and don't condone one bit of it from their fans or ours mate and as for what the fans will b like in 5/ 10 years mate that's down to us.

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{Ed007's Note - It's not looking good. Games at CP will end up like a soulless EPL match with a $hit atmosphere and filled with a bunch of PC happy clappers taking selfies and tweeting during the game - and Lawwell will be delighted. Remember why was the singing section introduced anyway, that's where we'll be back at and also remember it's a singing/standing section with a minority of them GB members, it's not a GB section.
There's a guy and his son who were on holiday last week and came home to find that their tickets are banned for 2 games and that they won't be offered alternative seating, is that the kind of example the Club should be setting or is that too political or controversial to get involved in?
And we could lose our safety certificate for people smoking in the ground - if we lose that the stadium shuts not to mention the dangers of passive smoking or is it only pyro that affects the Asthmatic CSC?}

23 Jul 2017 14:46:16
Ed is clearly an intelligent critical thinker

Someone literally said they would accept union jacks at Celtic park and i've seen a few say this now.

As you say, its certainly never been a minority singing the rebels

I stopped supporting Scotland after the referendum. Sitting amongst people singing flower of Scotland while rejecting independence just seemed too ridiculous

Sadly i feel it will be the same at Celtic soon. A bunch of irish loyalists.

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23 Jul 2017 15:11:59
No tesla your lying to fit your agenda now, which is the sign of a desperate man, you asked if we would be offended if you brought the union jack to a game, what do you want us to lie, to many of us it's just a piece of cloth it means less than nothing.

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23 Jul 2017 18:00:43
Fair shout ed never even thought about the legal implications of the smoking and drinking the man and his son should b given alternative seating and i can see why there is such an uproar about it n that's what i mean by the minoroty ruining it for others when i said that earlier its shocking that the actions of the few determen the cosequences of the many.

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24 Jul 2017 18:44:27
Tesla agree 100% with your last post mate๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ชโœŒ๏ธ.

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22 Jul 2017 20:35:42
The fighting going on between the fans just now is actually sad. We have just came off a record breaking season and started off this season hun skelping. Time for the fans to come together. HH.

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{Ed007's Note - What, like a group hug?}

22 Jul 2017 20:54:15
Just can't get enough.

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22 Jul 2017 21:00:45
Well Ed if you like a hug no problem, I'm happy with a handshake tho ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘.

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{Ed007's Note - I'll do my own 'handshakes' thank you very much!}

22 Jul 2017 21:16:38
Hope it doesn't involve rolled up trouser legs or any form of goat molesting Ed.

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{Ed007's Note - It depends if can I be the goat? ;)

22 Jul 2017 22:13:12
Ah Ed my joke was lost in translation it was meant to be Jiz can't Get Enough.

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22 Jul 2017 22:07:12
Hahaha.

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{Ed007's Note - ;)

23 Jul 2017 00:56:43
I smell a few sherberts on the last few posts haha.

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{Ed007's Note - Not on my side buddy, I never touch the stuff.}

22 Jul 2017 18:12:49
GB locked out for the next 2 games. I sit above these nobs, and whilst I acknowledge they raise the tempo of the atmosphere, they do stupid and embarrassing things. They've been told time after time to behave, however they just don't listen, so PL should continue in this course of action until they stop embarrassing the club. and themselves! Focus more on the football, less on politics!

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22 Jul 2017 19:44:55
How about you stop embarrasing yourself. The club was founded out of politics and you can't change that when it suits u.

It's been that way since before u were born.

Let the people sing their stories and their songs. oh wait naw.

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22 Jul 2017 19:54:43
Agree with Miko, the green brigade are a total emaressnrbt to the club. Ban them for life.

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22 Jul 2017 19:56:18
The club was founded on charity and alleviating poverty, you idiot! The manager, the board and your fellow supporters are trying to get the message across and people like you hear their words, but you're not listening!

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22 Jul 2017 20:09:22
Spot on miko, fortunately I'm actually hearted by what I'm reading on here, as it seems the majority like us now see the club as a football team with charity at heart, rather than some vehicle to push their political agenda . Like I said yesterday if you feel that strongly about politics , join a political party, go campaigning , even stand for election , hell you might even get my vote, especially if you leave the rest of us In peace to enjoy the football.

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22 Jul 2017 20:16:50
Aye ban them sin die and where the feck will the atmosphere come from they need to reign ot in a bit but they are wonderful in full voice . they just need to concentrate on the fitba and a wee bit less on the politics.

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22 Jul 2017 20:38:08
I like the Green Brigade, they really do bring a bit of noise and colour to the matches.
I feel all the same, that they should just accept Uefa's rules, as at the end of the day there'll be only one winner. Uefa aren't going to change their rules because the Green Brigade don't like them. The fines will just get bigger and bigger until eventually a section of our ground will get closed, how is that helping the team? .
I'm not saying that I disagree with the views of the Green Brigade, I think though, that they have to make their views known in other ways so that it doesn't tarnish the clubs reputation.
It looks to me that the club has been very fair to the Green Brigade, they have given them their own section, they have allowed them back after previous breaches of the rules, and they have now given them their own standing area, which has improved the atmosphere even more, it doesn't seem much to ask that they put up with Uefa's rules however much they disagree with them.

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{Ed007's Note - Gerry, good post but just one point. The standing area doesn't belong to the GB, there's a hell of a lot more non members in there than members. The Club is ultimately responsible for the people in there but the GB are only responsible for their own members behaviour in there and they've taken full responsibility for what's happened.
Would the GB be responsible if Welshbhoy got lifted for being drunk and singing the Rebs? He's in there every game and isn't a GB member as far as I know, and if he is at his age that's bloody tragic!
Closing the entire sections is an unfair over reaction on the people who haven't done anything wrong.}

22 Jul 2017 21:04:48
Look, I'm not against supporters celebrating their Irish heritage, we shouldn't be silenced. We need to be smart. and inclusive! HH.

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22 Jul 2017 21:31:00
Miko well said buddy! Totally agree! Tesla u do not half talk some Shoite pal do u know that! The statement from this mob shows they're utter contempt for the club and the level of arrogance is staggering! I've said I love the atmosphere they bring when it's done in the proper manner but now I'm just totally pissed off with the lot of them! No fan or group of fans like this lot are bigger than our club! So abide by the rules or f**k off! We've a massive game coming up in a few days and this is the garbage we're having to listen to! We've never been in better shape on or off the pitch, world class manger and top class team. this mob will not be allowed to jeopardise or get in the way of that with their pish! I call on every fan who comes to the game on Wednesday to show this mob that we all don't just sit about waiting for them to create the atmosphere that we're renowned for worldwide! There is actually another 50 odd thousand of us who love our club and have more than enough passion to show it!

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{Ed007's Note - But that's never going to happen is it? Far too many fans go to CP and expect the GB to provide the atmosphere as if it's their sole responsibility to be part of the entertainment. If the rest of the crowd sang etc there'd be no need for the GB. Go on social media and see the amount of people posting pics of the GB during games etc, instead of watching the game and backing the team we've got idiots sitting on Tw@tter posting selfies.}

22 Jul 2017 21:26:06
Oi u what do u mean my age I'm younger than you (I think ๐Ÿ‘€)
Your right I'm not a member I am one of the vast majority of the 900 who are not members but have been banned for the 2 games.
Yes the green brigade have taken full responsibility for what has happened but from what I gather I and most others will support them in whatever lies ahead.
There is always going to be a divide in opinion amongst the fans regarding what they do and quite rightly if you don't agree you have the right to voice your opinions.
What I will say is that the over reaction to recent events is unbelievable.
I personally think Celtic have handled this appallingly. As I said yesterday if safety is the angle they are coming from then why wasn't a stance made before the linfield game. a game that we were never in any doubt of winning . a game that was always going to have the potential to have trouble. I'll tell you why season ticket sales and the fact that it was live only on celtic tv.
Now the team have a big game v Rosenberg without (like it or not) the heartbeat of the stadium.
Again citing safety. blocking stairwells bullshit that was the polis I posted a link before dunno if u can show it ed but clearly shows the police stance in the section.

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{Ed007's Note - Send in a link for the pic auld yin ;)

22 Jul 2017 22:30:28
Thank God for posters like Miko, Ballochi, Dafabet etc. The majority of posters on here agree that the GB are out of order. The statement made today shows they have no intention of winding their kneck in and regardless of what the club or BR say, they think they are above the rules.

Posters like Tesla are confused about the real history of the club and confuse our heritage with some kind of para military struggle to reunite Ireland. As Ballochi said if you want to make a political point go and march to Downing street, why use Celtic as a way of making a political statement about something you really have little interest in apart from voicing it for 90 mins inside Celtic Park. The majority on here want it stopped and so do the majority who go to the games. We want to support our team, nothing else.

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22 Jul 2017 22:26:34
Again I don't disagree miko, the majority inside cp would have similar views on, Ireland , Palestine and a lot of other things . a lot of us also believe cp is not the place to air those views .

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22 Jul 2017 22:22:36
It's the same at gigs Ed the only gig that actually feels like its full of people there for the music and atmosphere is the annual SLF at the Barrowlands, the rest full of people taking photos, videos, updating their status where they are what they had to eat when they took a dump. Morons.

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{Ed007's Note - Gigs? Ya mad hipster!!!}

22 Jul 2017 22:29:12
Totally agree ED, there is to many fans sitting waiting on the GB doing they'r thing, especially some of the younger fans! I took my young nephew and his wee pal last season and I don't know how many times I told them to stop taking bloody pics and watch the game! Lol. these next 2 games are our chance to show there's more to Celtic park on a match day than the GB! We've got our own voice and this is the chance to make it heard!

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{Ed007's Note - It does my nut in mate, it's everyone that's lucky enough to go to games responsibility to get the place rocking. It's understandable if you're nephew is a young kid and it's a rare occasion for him that he wants pictures and that though so it's up to you to teach him. I've still got a few An Spiorad CD's kicking about if you want one for him ;)

22 Jul 2017 22:39:39
I've been critical of the green brigade before, but the other night I thought they were fantastic, yes the banner was a bit naughty and A couple of rebel songs sang ( in which most of the crowd sang along with myself included) but let's not forget the opposition, the whole run up to the game was a bigot and racist festival, from a bunch of horrible c@nts, that would not have happened against any other team.

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22 Jul 2017 21:31:57
Ed, Welsbhoy was getting locked up for his singing voice mate it's awful :-P

But in his defence never known him drunk in aw the time I've known him he just keeps putting it away mate

He has been known to put away a pitcher taller than his Mrs (y)

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{Ed007's Note - WB keeps trying to get me to Skype with him and it's freaking me RIGHT out! I keep seeing this when I think about it...

22 Jul 2017 23:44:52
Wouldn't surprise me if the Board has put the seats in lock down and the standing section will be seen as a one hit wonder, up there with Brimful of Asha, Sleeping Satellite, and A Girl Like You.

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23 Jul 2017 08:22:20
I agree with you Ed I like the GB and I for one do sit back and want to listen to them they are great (when it's not political or knowingly getting the club in to trouble) And I do feel really sorry for guys like WB that is getting dragged into getting banned also In my opinion the club is wrong to tarnish everyone the same I am sure they know who is in the GB I just wished for a better statement from the GB rather than leave it open to carry on with their agenda.

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23 Jul 2017 12:18:36
haha more like this:

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23 Jul 2017 12:40:38
Pmsl, you sure that isn't UJ Ed?

A full time narcissist, whose never been allowed to get his golden babylocks cut?

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22 Jul 2017 01:21:27
Right enough about that bloody banner! Before I turn in for the night there's something I was talking about with a couple of my pals earlier - would you allow alcohol to be sold in Scottish stadiums outwith the usual outlets and current restrictions?

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22 Jul 2017 01:40:18
without doubt mate why shouldn't grown adults beable to have a pint at the game (tho i must admit the game gives me a bit of time to sober up b4 the homeward session lol)

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22 Jul 2017 07:03:00
๐Ÿ˜‚ You're all over it Welsbhoy you animal.

I would. Regulated properly of course (searches on entry, refusal to serve etc. ) . A lot has changed since the ban, and incidents have happened since to indicate that alcohol in the ground wasn't actually the problem, or the sole problem at least. I think the majority wouldn't abuse it. Mainly because ยฃ4-5 for a flat, weak, pint in a plastic glass. People won't be rushing to line them up as much as some might think.

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22 Jul 2017 07:46:04
Jim tims right at they sort of prices think it might put off the dafties from buying it and maybe it would be your more mature tim that sampled it so its an aye fae me ed.

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22 Jul 2017 08:34:19
They should trial it first and see what their up against, its all one saying were all grown men and women, but its mostly the grown ups that let us down when it comes to the swally. Its a hard one, i would like a drink at the game, but can't help thinking that someone will ruin it anyway, with 60,000 people comes a lot of 2 can dans. Then there's the kids having to listen to drunken obsceneties. As iv said, id like a drink, but is it really worth it? Its maybe 2hrs to sober up for some๐Ÿ˜.

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22 Jul 2017 08:45:45
When I go to the Swindon town games you can have a pint before the game and a pint at half time but can't take them to your seat. It seems to work there.

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22 Jul 2017 09:58:49
Was at Goodison Park Everton v Southampton last season, Fanzone outside live music, alcohol and food. Inside alcohol also basically drink as much as you want. You see the same at the Rugby. Would be great to have the same in Scotland but can't see it happening too many idiots who are bad enough sober.

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22 Jul 2017 11:59:19
Certainly no drinking at seats and it really can be incident free. I've been to a few grounds in England and it's literally squeezing one in before the game and squeezing one in at half time. That's if you can even be bothered to wait. The argument will always be there though that you're adding a little bit more to a recipe for trouble.

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22 Jul 2017 09:40:52
Well done ed.
I was just going to say something similar. Regardless of our views on it what's happened has happened and us all bickering amongst ourselves is counter productive. We are celtic fans and that's why we are here so let's attempt to put this banner fiasco to rest, for just now anyway. As for rhe alcohol question, sure i think we should. Even if as a trial it was beer and cider only. let's face it, the guys who want to get tanked up do anyway b4 they come.

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22 Jul 2017 11:11:07
No Ed!

As someone who doesn't really drink I always got sat beside the over bearing steamer that's that drunk he can't even see the game!

If it is a yes then it would need to be controlled / moderated and how do you control grown men?

You are going to get some fud running onto the pitch much more often and what happens like the Hibs v Rangers cup final a late winner and they are all pished!

I know you were but are not now a drinker but how no another question like how can we not have a reserved section if you turn up inebriated you get to sit in the "pissed section" then we could have the "there all fuds section that want to play with there phones and take pictures section" too see what a great idea you started mate?

And then the people who just want to watch the football can just enjoy the football instead of worrying about an annoying grunt?

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22 Jul 2017 13:50:11
jamie you'll upset welshy talking about him like that lol.

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22 Jul 2017 15:15:40
I personally wouldn't be buying alcohol in the stadium for reasons stated above ๐Ÿ˜ No seriously think that most who would want a pint in the ground would have it with their pie or whatever at half time can't see many having a right session at the game. I for one can't even be arsed queuing for a pie.

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22 Jul 2017 21:24:24
Does anyone actually believe that selling plastic cups of Tennents will cause any trouble? If people want a pint before the game then they will have in the pubs near the stadium. Surely it can only be a good thing for them to get to the stadium a wee bit earlier and have a pint there rather than squeeze one in and turn up late? They allow it in England so why not?

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22 Jul 2017 22:38:01
Drinking within the stadium would cause no problems . All we need are fans to be a little bit responsible and Celtic stewards casting an eye on proceedings . However if we have a visible presence of police, we are guaranteed trouble and rows everytime we have bars open . Irish and Scottish men deep down resent police and supporters and especially Celtic supporters, we know police just don't treat us impartially.

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22 Jul 2017 23:39:35
Maybe with this new hotel development thingy, Celtic could think about setting up their own micro brewery, might be a gold mine for the club, if the beer is good, my nephew is a young brewer might see if I can get him to write to the board,

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23 Jul 2017 04:08:57
you can already drink at Celtic park had the priveledge of getting couple of seats behind celtic goal in club 67 area for half a dozen games and had a pint before game at halftime and at end of game the only catch was the bar closed the second the whistle blew to start play.

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