Celtic Banter Archive January 22 2013

22 Jan 2013 23:05:22
I have been heavily critical of Gary Hooper and Samaras, amongst other players on this website. I am man enough to admit I was very wrong and will happily eat my words, they have been fantastic this season, domestically and in Europe!

That's good you can admit your wrong mate ! who are you ?
Tambhoy

22 Jan 2013 22:45:12
Well that was bloody cold! Decent again in long patches but I get the feeling we are only 60-70% at the moment.Fair play to Hoops, played well all over the park and no doubt this will lead to trying for his move criticism.Pass marks for all I thought though special mention to anybody who froze at the game!.........green jhedi

The only thing I would say is that Sammy needs to make quicker(and others when hooper was on a run and need a lob pass) passes and at the right time, hate how he always tried to beat 2 guys then pass when it is not there when if he passed it right away we could have a chance on goal. But Sammy is still on fire and no knock on him just needs to think ahead a wee bit

Could rogic be the playmaker we need to break defences, looks impressive

Ska bhoy

23 Jan 2013 02:28:22
Listening to the radio on the way to the game a couple of guys called in & said we shouldn't play Hooper again & punt him immediately, that was it for the panel from then on our supporters had turned on Hooper & were going to show our disgust & so on? someone connected with spurs had said they bid 8.5m, I know radio snyde is rubbish but the pi*h the panel come away with & the deluded bears has to be heard to be believed at times. Hooper got a great reception tonight & that is how we like it for we support the Celtic

22 Jan 2013 21:41:22
Was that wee James Forrest running the line at the main stand tonight?Linesman was his double.

Jungle Bhoy.

22 Jan 2013 20:43:35
Anybody to an idea how to get live streaming on the iPad? Surely it's possible??

Jd

Jd, at my age i'm still struggling with the iRon ..shammy

Its a nightmare tbh, you need to get a flshplayer supporting app like photon ( it links you into a server in the usa that lets you watch streams), the only other way to watch games on ipad is to get a mates sky sign in details and use skygo, (if they are on the telly that is)

swilltim

Good app called Skyfire & you should get Firstrowsports.

Lol shammy. Sw I've got skygo it's all the other games I would like to be able to get, I'll try the photon idea cheers

Jd

22 Jan 2013 20:01:21
First time poster since we look like we're to lose hoops! What! Possible replacements surely the lad guidetti has to be in with a shout looks like a great talent with brilliant goals to ratio he doesn't seem to be a part of man city's plans and were surely a better option than feyonord

He is in there plans, just not ready to outmuscle Tevez, Aguero, balotteli, Dzeko if you rate him! Man city are happy for him to go on loan, I would love to see him in the hoops but to buy your talking more than we will pay!

Bigbadjohn

22 Jan 2013 18:56:04
Looks like there's a lot of work to be done behind the scenes in paradise! Do we accept this or that? Cash plus player? Hard cash? Who do we try and replace him with? Do we try an unknown? Spend a wee bit and gamble? But it will be getn looked at and we will also know who else will maybe bid for him! But one other thing, the "supporters" that want Hooper dropped for tonight's game! Your havin a laugh!? Unless he's injured or a bid is going to be accepted in the morning? He plays IMO. The guys done nothing wrong, he's came up, banged the goals in, tried it and Doesnae really like it! He wants to go home! Offer him 35k a week an hell still reject it! Get over it, plain and simple.
I was really hoping he would stay, but its not to be! Just hope we get a good replacement?!

Bigbadjohn

I think Hooper answered those that wanted him dropped tonight BBJ ... He was always going to be on ...Shop window and all that ...The boy done well the last couple of games and I hope all works out for him regardless where he goes ...TTTS

22 Jan 2013 18:48:46
Dear "scottish agent" wee Pat and I would like to hire you to get us a move to a bigger English site.
We both feel that on here our profiles should be as big as Green Jhedi or Mrs E which at present they are not.
Pat and I want our talents to be seen by as big an audience as possible, so please contact the Man Utd, Man City and LFC sites on our behalf.(to this end Pat has been learning Mancunian and Scouse, and I have got Jimmy Tarbuck's joke books Timalloy

PS Pat and I are prepared to wait until the summer, but only if given same billing as GJ and Mrs E

Well as the "Scottish Agent" knows everything about everything (football stuff) and has his fingers in many pies, although who's I wouldn't like to guess!? He must be able to sort this out, it's only fair as your not askin for more or to be the main man/men! But he has also been "outed" and will he come back in the same capacity? If your stuck I know somebody that knows "stuff" but I can't guarantee you'll get the same deal as Green Jedhi and Mrs E....!

Bigbadjohn

Tim, the grass isn't always greener on the other side, remember the jhedi tried his luck in north america just before xmas . he disappeared for a couple of months . ill health of his da in law, I think, na he was trying to blogg his way in . but he missed the scottish banter and came back. don't aspire to go to england, iv'e read most of their sites, not a patch on ours . the likes of you me and wee pat will just have to try harder to dethrone the king and mrs.e. ... ps gj hope the old guy is still ok .. shammy

@ Timalloy; Surely wee pat must learn English to move more mainstream? Try for an image rights deal mate, it's the way forward! I get a liquorice allsort for every 1000 replies to one post, quite a deal eh? don't know Mrs E's deal but she is in the real big time.Rumour is barca wanted her..........green jhedi

There are no profiles on here Tim as big as your good self and wee Pat.

GJ, I get Marks & Spencer's Chocolates as part of my deal. Barcelona did want me but sadly for them, my heart lies in the Glasgow East End ~ Mrs E

Scuse me greeno ah huv awreddy lernt fkn english bit no very well

22 Jan 2013 17:45:46
Hooper is gone.. or will be soon. He really needs to go before the fans turn against him. Looks like we have made a final offer and he's knockrd it back. Lets move on. Find a good replacement .. Austin? Get him in early to play a few games and don't leave it to the last minute. No player is bigger than the club. Thank you Mr Hooper.. your time as a Bhoy is over. You'll never forget your time at Paradise but one thing is sure ... one day you WILL regret moving

Danny Wilson went to Liverpool and couldn't cut it in the EPL. Jelavic ?.... Who?...... Boyd? .... Who?..... Hutton.... Who?.......

Blowing a chance to be someone special up here Hooperman. Possibly a legend.

Why will he regret it even if he comes to Norwich he will be on 35k a week that's 10k a week more plus he is in a more competitive league and he is in England where he wants to be. All Norwich need to do now is agree a fee.

I can't see him regretting leaving the spl, I'd rather play in league 1 than the spl

He may not miss playing in spl but will miss champions league nights at Celtic park, will never win a trophy or play in Europe if he goes to Norwich, hope if he dose move its to a decent team or he may regret it, but I wish him well
DB77

He will make millions more. so who can blame him.hes been well paid at celtic for doing a good job. so good luck to him.

22 Jan 2013 17:23:59
why are celtic not paying hooper top dollar 2 stay pay him the same as the top earners

There is obviously a limit that any club is prepared to pay any player.
There is also a minimum any club is willing to accept for any player.
Hooper was bought for £2.4m and He's contributed well for Celtic, he is a requisite professional, popular, well spoken lad. You've played a blinder with hard negotiations Gary but I don't think you can eke anything more. The club has probably pushed the boat out to keep you. The EPL is a totally different class. Jelavic, Boyd, Hutton, Miller, etc.... All go down there and look very ordinary. Sign up with Celtic lad on this good money on offer, guaranteed European football for say 5 years... Become a legend.

£25k is £1.3m a year, that's £5.2m over four years. Plus bonuses etc....
How much is any guy worth in Scottish football. TV money dictates football budgets in every country and our league gets a pittance. If Celtic weren't giants and all Scottish clubs were the same size, say Aberdeen, hearts, Dundee Utd, then no club in Scotland could afford £25k .....

22 Jan 2013 16:52:19
Just watching sly sports anyone noticed the ranking tables.
Mens darts Taylor Eng
Mens golf Donald Eng
Mens tennis Murray GBR
Wonder what nationality Murray would be if he was ranked 100 or if Henman was still playing what nationality he'd be.
Welshbhoy

Or if Murray was English would it still be GBR?

I was in England when Murray played his first Wimbeldon semi- back, page of the s*n, "Come on Surrey, Surrey based Murray, Britain's Murray".... Come on Surrey, seriously?!

Next day "Braveheart Murray, Dunblane born, Scotland's Murray."

Joke

G93

It depends how the sport is categorised. tennis is an all britain category and darts is a pub game whichever way you look at it.

22 Jan 2013 16:05:09
I posted before about Hooper going with my best wishes. Although he will be a loss to the team it is exactly the type of model our club is trying to produce by buying these players giving them a platform to do well for us and move on at a profit. Unfortunately us bhoys are going to have to get used to this. For me this isn't a bad thing. When that other mob died I was worried about our potential to attract players to the SPL which is being proved wrong. Our club is a great platform for up and coming young players. Hooper will go no doubt then Wanyama and at some point Matthews and Forster but with our scouting and lets not forget our fantastic youth setup I'm excited for the future and look forward to the next group of youngsters.
Hail Hail
Welshbhoy

I agree but in useing this method we need to set and demand the price. For it to work like Ajax and others we cannot stay within the 8-10 mill cap, for wanyama a true talent and one who will be one of the best players we need to get the 20mill or at least 15 mill plus 25% sell on for us to grow and become an even better and bigger club. Then we will attract the best young talent and might chose us over other English clubs. {Ed007's Note - I like your thinking. Everton paid £15 million for Fellaini from Standard Liege when he was 20/21, Wanyama could easily surpass him and become one of the best DCM in Europe, he is that highly thought of. Wanyama and Tony Watt are two of the most spoke about young players in the game just now.}

We seem to keep finding cracking players, credit to our scouting system.

I totally agree ED- the problem with the numbers being spoke about re. Wanyama is that we are about to set a marker. Gary Hooper is slightly diff, given his contract situation, but Wanyama is arguably our best example of our new policy- and if we sell him for say 10million (which is a great profit I admit) then we've told the world that if the best example of this policy is available for 10, then no matter how good Matthews, Forster, Watt etc etc become- they'll be available for less than 10. I have no problem with the new policy, but if you want it to be successful, you need to set a benchmark- not a glass ceiling.

The Patient

22 Jan 2013 15:25:23
ed did a leev ma wansie ally mcoised roon yours last night canny seem tae fun it in wee timbos eethur man
mad pat fae the posso
the arse is fawin oot itn aw the paddin roon the belly is comin oot bit a stull luv it is ye kin wipe aw yur stuff aff without cleenin it
bak asap lofty your else

That's easy for you to say!! lol

22 Jan 2013 14:45:40
If we are to believe that Hooper was not offered the same money as Brown and Ledley then surely it signals the clubs intent on selling him this month.

LM67

He wants to go home, it's that simple.It's pretty common knowledge that his agent asked for £40k last year knowing he would not get it.That was the start of the moving process.........green jhedi

22 Jan 2013 13:45:50
Hooper should no longer be selected for 1st team, only players who want to play for the club should be considered, Hooper should now be sold, and if he plays tonight I for one will boo his every touch. He wants to go, so sell him now no more medals no more CL games, and he will soon find himself in the championship as he's not as good as everyone makes him out to be and especially what he thinks he is

Bangura, wanyama to name but 2 have never hidden their desire to play in England. Will you be booing them too?

Joeshmo1888

He hasn't said he wants to leave. Maybe he's just holding out for the best deal he can get. You'd do the same in your own job if you could so you can't blame the lad for that.
And you're going to boo his every touch, are you? Well shame on you. You are not a true fan of the club I love if you're going to bring negativity to a player who has given us everything....and a player who will make us a very tidy profit if and when he does leave. You should be applauding his every touch and congratulating him for his efforts.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

You will boo his every touch I hope you are sitting next to me, you would get as far as be of your boo. You are a t*at & most probably a wandering deady bear ! AbS

Booing? Well stay away then.What a pathetic post.If you had a chance to treble your wages and work in a much better environment would you be tempted? What a berk, Hooper has done well for us, if he goes good luck to him..........green jhedi

Pathetic OP is obviously a zombie troll Hooper does not owe us anything he has played well for us has not demanded a transfer, if he wants to move back to England that is understandable, we may think its the wrong move to go to a club like norwich bet if we make a profit I for one would thank him for his services and wish him all the best (I would lie him to stay)
DB77

22 Jan 2013 13:14:06
In the Press and Journal today five Rangers fans appeared in court on Monday following the match on Sunday, they were prosecuted under Scottish legislation aimed at stamping out football-related hate crimes. Has anybody seen anything in the red tops about this ? Ticman

If rangers fans ran onto the pitch and gunned down the officials and anyone else you still wouldn, t read about it in the press.jimbhoy

What a surprise. It seems it has to be a "riot" in Dundee for the press to bother.Or a Celtic related story perhaps............green jhedi

To be fair no one cares about 3rd division teams.

Expect CG to go on a rant about how his hooligans are'nt being taken seriously by the scottish press and how things like this mean they have to England

22 Jan 2013 11:59:30
This talk of wenger looking to place a bid in for wanyama is doing my head in, fair enough it looks like hooper won't be here after the transfer window I can understand that with his contract running down, selling both players before the last 16 against juve is criminal. Belfastbhoy

I can't see Big Vic moving before summer tbh. I also have a sneaky feeling that he might head to Europe rather than the EPL.........green jhedi

Hope so for our sakes gj if he went during this window it would be a hard pill to swallow. Now if he holds of till atleast the summer that would be brilliant. the sooner this window closes the better mate. Belfastbhoy

22 Jan 2013 11:51:57
If we sell Hooper and, or Wanyama, I will expect every penny of the transfer fees to be used to improve the team, surely the money from the champions league and the sale of Ki has helped balance the books (and then some), as a fan I want to see the best team we can afford on the park and not keep hearing about how healthy our books are looking.

I don't want to spend to the extent the old Rangers did, but I don't want us to be sitting with Millions sitting in the bank doing nothing,

As I have said before, I know we will primarily buy young unknown players with the view to sell on at a large profit, but I would like to see us buying at least one experienced centre back, a proven defender and I would also like to see an experienced striker/playmaker,
Experience is the difference between us dropping silly points and us going on a 10+ unbeaten run

Maestro08

Worst case scenario; Tumble out of Europe and don't get even Europa cup group stage.Season books affected and income slows.what then? We have to trust Mr Lawwell, his record dictates that surely?............green jhedi

The money from the champions league is in the bag, that would take care of any worst case scenario", when do we reap the benefits of buying low and selling high,

As I said I don't want us to go daft and go on a £30/40 million spending spree, I just think if we are selling players for the amount that's getting quoted and we have all this money from the champions league then I think it should be spent on the team,

i think the attitude of looking at worst case scenarios is a recipe for a constant average squad

Maestro08

@ Maestro08; I see your point mate but remember big fee players want big fee wages, we know who's to blame for that.As for reaping the benefits we are doing so now.Sadly in these times a healthy balance sheet is very important.We are only a couple of years into this project, light years ahead of The rangers who will be our main competition eventually, and the ffp rules are not far away.............green jhedi

22 Jan 2013 08:09:56
Why does'nt Gary Hooper come out and tell the supporters if he's staying or going?

Barry the janny

he staying to summer ... guaranteed

His agent will realise that's his bargaining tool. I think he may be waiting to see who comes in, if he does not fancy it then sign again on more money till summer, and lets be honest I would be surprised if Norwich turned his head.What cannot happen is his agent trying to play us...........green jhedi

22 Jan 2013 00:06:22
Hooper refuses to sign new contract ! Poor show in my eyes, for the sake of a few extra quid he would sell out to go to norwich! He can go in my eyes ! Scored some amazing vital goals! now he will never be heard of again! What a waste of talent !

21 Jan 2013 23:44:08
if hooper leaves,,,, austin or le fondre 2 replace him,, also looking at the possibility of landing kenwyne jones once we get miku 2 fook

21 Jan 2013 23:06:29
Has any one noticed a worrying trend in the threads re CL qualification? We need to lose this mindset as we are not guaranteed the group stages.Next season we face three qualifiers, even in the champions route we will probably face a real quality side on the third one, but some fans seem to be taking qualification for granted.On posts regarding Hoopers ambition, re naming The Park and finance, this crops up regularly.This is dangerous.All we are doing is heaping pressure on the players and raising expectations of the fans.The downside of this is if, and it's only an if, we don't qualify then the sense of disappointment will linger for months.This could be very damaging to the level of support our team need.For me we are still building, the signing of Rogic proves that, and we have the right people in key areas of the club.We played well on Saturday, attendance 48k, coincidence? I think not. Lets not handicap ourselves before a season kicks off............green jhedi

GJ: I have posted on next years CL Qualifiers already this season - not wanting to sound pessimistic but realistic.
We need to keep perspective. This seasons qualification was an unexpected bonus. By all means this years experience will help us next season - but I have a feeling we will end up having to beat a far greater opponent than Helsingborgs to qualify.
Once we go into into the realms of planning finances/contracts on POTENTIAL Champions League money it becomes dodgy - in fact, did a team that used to play out of Govan not try that? What happened to them?
(Before folk start replying that we won't go bust, or we need to speculate to accumulate, or Lawell is stashing the money: that was a wee joke, so save your keyboard)..............kbt1978